Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and >> group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which >> suggests itself, namely that of the passwd(5) and group

Re: [gentoo-dev] [EAPI 7] Cross-compile improvements (BDEPEND, BROOT, sysroot)

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 02 Dec 2015 23:20, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On reflection, I'm now thinking that we should call it something less > generic. I also found that the Qt build uses SYSROOT for its own > purposes so you cannot rely on it in toolchain wrappers. ROOT is > probably just as unreliable. For that reason,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and > group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which > suggests itself, namely that of the passwd(5) and group(5) files.) i recall going with xml at the time, but i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 11 Dec 2015 14:16, Patrick McLean wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:37:48 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:04:47PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > > Well, the OpenRC project is currently inconsistent about thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc c api (librc) usage

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 10 Dec 2015 10:32, William Hubbs wrote: > I want to start a discussion about the usage of OpenRC's C api as > defined in rc.h. very few projects ever picked up the API/libraries. probably for the best. > I have no idea which projectss out there are using it, or which > functions they are usin

Re: [gentoo-dev] ncurses-5.9 -> ncurses-6.0 step-by-step?

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 14 Dec 2015 02:14, Joshua Kinard wrote: > I might've missed it, but do we have a step-by-step procedure to take a rootfs > that uses ncurses-5.9 and upgrade it to ncurses-6.0 WITHOUT breaking anything? > I, like others, ran into the problem of emerge yanking libncurses.so.5 libs > out when upgr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Ulrich Mueller wrote: > (If directories are really needed, we could use the scheme foreseen > in [1] for package.* and use.* files.) So package.{users,group} ? > Also a mechanism how a subprofile could undefine a user or group > defined in its parent seems to be missing. Maybe set the id to -1

Re: [gentoo-dev] repo/gentoo.git, or how committing is challenging

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Patrick, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Like seriously, every time I try to approach this set of problems I > run into enough stupidity Stop the silly complaining and help work on solving the problem instead. If you can contribute then do so. If not, your options are to hire someone who is, or await the

[gentoo-dev] RFC: MythTV Project

2015-12-14 Thread Rich Freeman
As part of the general herd migration we decided to create a mythtv project, keeping the same alias/etc. The project page is at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:MythTV and I'll be updating the herd mapping shortly. I don't forsee any bold new direction for the team, and we have yet to elect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015, Michał Górny wrote: > As far as I can see, this GLEP predates EAPI and does not meet > modern standards. It needs to be updated or killed with fire. > For a start, relation to EAPI needs to be defined. This will likely > require both profiles and ebuilds to use the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Determenistic system group and user id

2015-12-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 02:23:29PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: > > 1) Why do you need deterministic uid / gid's? > > 2) If you do need deterministic uid / gid's, I would recommend storing > them > > all in the same place. > They are ALL fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 03:03:53PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > If I had access to things I could help. But I don't, so I can't. The scripts of the git->rsync process are already open. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/infra/mastermirror-scripts.git/ (also in there are the related scripts for the other di

Re: [gentoo-dev] repo/gentoo.git, or how committing is challenging

2015-12-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > Why does the official documentation point me at gkeys-gen, which doesn't > work The documentation you linked is a project page for the Gentoo-Keys project. It represents one possible way to accomplish the goal of generating a gpg key. It is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Doug Goldstein
On 12/14/15 3:22 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 13 grudnia 2015 21:41:02 CET, "Robin H. Johnson" > napisał(a): >>On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:03:51PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >>> Hi all! >>> >>> We trying to use ldap for users @work, many of our workstations >>running >>> binary gentoo ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Doug Goldstein
On 12/14/15 12:06 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 07:49:42AM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Ok. Since there is GLEP27 we should make it reality. To do so i think we >> should >> 1. Have some list of system uid/gid (on wiki for example). Also we need >> to agree o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/14/2015 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: >> The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of >> the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute >> solutions and only *then* have a chance of becoming pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > The key point to remember is that it is NOT neccessary to be part of > the team in order to contribute solutions. You *first* contribute > solutions and only *then* have a chance of becoming part of the team. > > I for one am working in my no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 13 grudnia 2015 21:41:02 CET, "Robin H. Johnson" napisał(a): >On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:03:51PM +0300, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> We trying to use ldap for users @work, many of our workstations >running >> binary gentoo based distro called Calculate linux. However if we >wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] repo/gentoo.git, or how committing is challenging

2015-12-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/14/2015 04:00 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:20:01 +0300 > Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 18:36:51 +0100 Patrick Lauer wrote: >>> Oh hey. We're in the future. Let's try to commit something to >>> repo/gentoo.git! >>> >>> So apparently we're sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Breakage and frustration

2015-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Rich Freeman wrote: > a big question is how to make it happen without just throwing > complaints on the folks who are trying their best to keep it all going. The answer to this is the same as it has always been: Demonstrate that you are capable and reliable and given social compatibility then aft

Re: [gentoo-dev] News for Gentoo CI and pull request CI

2015-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 14 grudnia 2015 09:23:40 CET, Daniel Campbell napisał(a): >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA256 > >On 12/11/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hi, everyone. >> >> I'd like to make a short announcement that in the last few days >> I've been using my little free time to hack o

[gentoo-dev] Herd -> project migration & cleanup required for GLEP67

2015-12-14 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, developers. Yesterday the Council has pre-approved GLEP 67 (Package maintenance structure) [1] and gave the green light to start official preparations for it. As outlined in the GLEP, the two preparatory steps for the migration are: | 1. all existing projects must be ensured to have uniqu

Re: [gentoo-dev] News for Gentoo CI and pull request CI

2015-12-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 12/11/2015 02:13 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I'd like to make a short announcement that in the last few days > I've been using my little free time to hack on my CI scripts, and > they had a few major improvements. Most notably: >