Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
change? Because he wants to push GLEP 55. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __

Re: [gentoo-dev] Yet another proposal for ebuild extensions

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
formats, and it would probably be cleaner overall, while giving people the freedom to experiment with whatever wild ideas they have for packages. Ebuilds work well enough for us. I don't think there's a real need for other formats. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Allow bash-4.0 features in EAPI=3 ebuilds

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: 2009/5/17 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org: Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-05-17 18:37:32 Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a): On Sun, 17 May 2009 18:20:21 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfrever@gmail.com wrote: I would like to suggest

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: scm in GLEP 54

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
in-ebuild property with the signifier live. Personally I think there is humor in the scum (as I pronounce it). But seriously, I think live makes sense, and would likely be clearer to our users as well. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
an artificial delay. And after that, there won't be any delay to avoid breakage anymore. This would still have my preference. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 updated

2009-05-17 Thread Ben de Groot
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 17 May 2009 23:17:57 +0200 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: 1. Incompatible change of inherit (e.g. make it look in the package dir too) A case would need to be made, in my opinion, as to why we would wish to allow this in the first place. The current

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Ben de Groot
and unintuitive. Except that we aren't talking about strange and unintuitive. All we are saying is basically documenting current usage: put a line with EAPI= near the top. That's very straighforward and intuitive. Plus, it works. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Can we stop wasting time and bandwidth? (was: The fallacies of GLEP55)

2009-05-16 Thread Ben de Groot
their time. But I disagree on the maintainer-wanted thread. It's not that important an issue. We have Sunrise already, so let's try to improve that. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-14 Thread Ben de Groot
on it. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-cdr/cdrdao: ChangeLog cdrdao-1.2.2-r3.ebuild

2009-05-10 Thread Ben de Groot
Thilo Bangert wrote: Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org said: and what exactly are _you_ contributing? i was trying to point out, that somebody was rather unhelpful, and all you can come up with is being unhelpful? we can do better than that! I thought I was helpful in pointing out that certain

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone and other moving rc variables.

2009-03-16 Thread Ben de Groot
, reading documentation is an acquired taste... ;-) -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, qt, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: qt4.eclass

2009-03-14 Thread Ben de Groot
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 15:31 Sat 14 Mar , Ben de Groot (yngwin) wrote: yngwin 09/03/14 15:31:28 Modified: qt4.eclass Log: Update qt4.eclass comet $ cvs diff -r1.50 -r1.51 qt4.eclass | diffstat qt4.eclass | 136

Re: [gentoo-dev] PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread Ben de Groot
be a logical step, in my opinion. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, qt, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __ yng...@gentoo.org http://ben.liveforge.org/ irc://chat.freenode.net/#gentoo-media irc

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLI Officially Deprecated

2009-01-14 Thread Ben de Groot
, though we expect it to work for those that use it. [...] Why wasn't this sent to gentoo-dev-announce? Also, will we have an announcement on the www.gentoo.org frontpage? This seems to me an important enough issue to inform our users about. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files

2008-12-31 Thread Ben de Groot
like it would be too much effort for so little gain. But in the end it is bikeshedding, and I don't really care. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, qt, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __ yng

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: what happened to /etc/init.d/hal{d,daemon,whatever} script ?

2008-12-29 Thread Ben de Groot
the source. Which really should not be necessary, in my opinion. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, qt, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __ yng...@gentoo.org http://ben.liveforge.org/ irc://chat.freenode.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Should unicode be allowed in ebuild metadata variables?

2008-12-29 Thread Ben de Groot
unicode? Nevermind, apparently GLEP 31 already requires ASCII anyway: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0031.html The way I read that GLEP is that in ChangeLog and metadata.xml we should accept the full range of UTF-8. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, qt, desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Ben de Groot
useful information to be found in the other parts of the Handbook. Maybe we could especially mention some of the more useful topics, and the elog system would be one of them. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Ben Sanchez
Are you considering to replace the mediawiki with a different wiki system such as moinmoin? On Wednesday 12 November 2008 7:49:58 am Michael Hammer wrote: * Gokdeniz Karadag [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081112 13:06]: Petteri Räty demis ki:: Michael Hammer wrote: We should develop some kind of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-07 Thread Ben de Groot
Josh Saddler wrote: Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). Comments are welcome! First, thanks

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Ben de Groot
as default WM, and x11-misc/pcmanfm as default filemanager, although these can be easily swapped for others. Comments are welcome! 1: http://lxde.org/ 2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/157989 3: http://www.bitbucket.org/yngwin/lxde-overlay/src/ -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 in GLEP56 use flags?

2008-10-01 Thread Ben de Groot
Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 08:13:14PM +, Ben de Groot (yngwin) wrote: Index: metadata.xml === ... +flag name='webkit' + Enable pkgx11-libs/qt-webkit/pkg support, for more + sophisticated

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usage of econf with an additional || die

2008-09-30 Thread Ben de Groot
to learn how to write ebuilds, so it's good idea to have consistent syntax in our ebuilds... So, can we have a nice little table of which functions die by themselves and which ones need || die added in ebuilds? Please? Thanks, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop-misc) Gentoo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] BugDay - Saturday 4th October

2008-09-27 Thread Ben de Groot
, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde, media, desktop-misc) Gentoo Linux Release Engineering PR liaison __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.liveforge.org/ irc://chat.freenode.net/#gentoo-media irc://irc.oftc.net/#lxde

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package

2008-09-23 Thread Ben de Groot
. But if that is the case, we should make separate virtuals for those. I think it would be best to add the more common font packages to the fonts virtual, and not all. I'd propose something along the lines of: || ( dejavu liberation-fonts ttf-bitstream-vera corefonts ) -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (lxde

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Ability to pass arguments to src_configure/src_compile

2008-09-06 Thread Ben de Groot
Alec Warner wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Currently we have a lot of: src_configure() { econf $(use_enable dvdr) \ $(use_with ipv6 ssl) \

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] LXDE project

2008-08-31 Thread Ben de Groot
://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/lxde/ Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: media-fonts/droid licensing: should fonts include Apache license in tarball?

2008-08-28 Thread Ben de Groot
Ryan Hill wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:25:42 +0400 Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. There are droid fonts package in the tree. Author states that they are apache licensed [1] (supposedly similar to google's android sdk) but license itself is not included in the package (only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-14 Thread Ben de Groot
David Leverton wrote: 2008/8/14 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Why aren't fired developers banned from the channels where they displayed this behavior? Isn't this one effectively withdrawn? I asked yngwin which devs he was referring to, and he said there weren't any, so is there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking of qt 4.4?

2008-08-11 Thread Ben de Groot
to officially become a member.) Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-05 Thread Ben de Groot
channels. What good is it to retire developers, but allow them to continue to be disruptive? I would like the Council to decide for a change in our policy on this point. Regards, Ben de Groot signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for August 7

2008-08-05 Thread Ben de Groot
obvious. Nowhere have I seen any accusation in Ben's mail, keep cool ;) Alexis. That's exactly what I meant. Thanks, Alexis! Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select

2008-07-19 Thread Ben de Groot
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Some kind of warning or other mechanism that does selecting this profile without knowing what you're doing would be a good idea. This isn't enough? %% grep KNOW * make.defaults:I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING=yes ;) Nobody ever reads

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why no updates on delay of 2008.0 release

2008-03-23 Thread Ben de Groot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Freeman wrote: | ... I don't think there is any excuse not to update the published | release schedule,... | | snip | | the update is simple: the untimely and quite unexpected surgical | complication resulting in the death of my mother has set

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keyword amd64 - x86_64

2008-02-28 Thread Ben de Groot
. Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHx7Bii+u7I1rvkiYRAsEcAKC/ypIBrKTvCmAn+YCQd2qYMaRQsACglbnu 4n7VUnas2MX3MPGWrVNvZcQ= =Lhml -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-10 Thread Ben Skeggs
as the alternative? Or should I just wait until the real virtual/{opengl,xft,glu,glut} ebuilds exist before touching packages that need them? Thanks for your patience, Donnie Thanks for your work on this! Ben. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X update

2005-12-10 Thread Ben Skeggs
Am Samstag, den 10.12.2005, 17:00 -0800 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Skeggs wrote: | Am Freitag, den 09.12.2005, 23:12 + schrieb Donnie Berkholz: | |2) Users with no X installed will pull in the virtual/x11 package |because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Ben Skeggs
instead. Why is this such a big issue? Anyway, the most important reason for the GLEP (IMO) is giving AT's r/o access to CVS. When working on bugs, it's always fun to find out that the problem has already been resolved and just hasn't made it to your local rsync mirror yet.. Just my $0.02. Ben

Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-20 Thread Ben Skeggs
successfully. The only issue I've encountered so far is that XKB appears to be completely broken for me. I can't quite track down why at this stage. Thanks guys for the quick work in updating the ebuilds! Ben. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1

2005-10-20 Thread Ben Skeggs
Am Donnerstag, den 20.10.2005, 16:28 +0100 schrieb Herbie Hopkins: On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 01:46 +1100, Ben Skeggs wrote: The only issue I've encountered so far is that XKB appears to be completely broken for me. I can't quite track down why at this stage. bug 109926 Thanks! That got rid

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-12 Thread Ben Skeggs
Georgi Georgiev wrote: maillog: 12/08/2005-07:16:10(+1000): Ben Skeggs types Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. Just a quick

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-12 Thread Ben Skeggs
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Skeggs wrote: | I've attached a small test case which demonstrates a problem with event | selection. | I haven't had time yet to try this with XCreateWindow also, but I | imagine I'll see | similar results if I try

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Ben Skeggs
right as all X apps seem to cause BadValue X errors in XCreateWindow. I'm unsure as to whether I've done something wrong, or this is a problem upstream. Ben. It's at http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

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