Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Loeser
ould take up that much room. The only reason Tim and myself are listed there is because we are the ones maintaining it now, and want people to be able to easily find who they should contact about changes. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - hal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Mark Loeser
just haven't gotten around to it yet :) Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Loeser
ause it was all done by hand :) -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpi9PqwvKg3C.

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Loeser
considered "policies" that are outlined in the document. We will be working on that in the next week or two. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web

Re: [gentoo-dev] Don't filter --as-needed !

2006-05-23 Thread Mark Loeser
trying to get bugs upstream to fix all of these issues. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halc

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cvsutils

2006-05-18 Thread Mark Loeser
This package is currently without a maintainer and has open QA issues; bug #123708. It was marked as testing on every arch without being tested and could really use someone to clean it up. It will be booted in 30 days if no one wants to keep it around. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Mark Loeser
until the Council has decided on how we wish to proceed in handling situations like this. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/

[gentoo-dev] Alternative Gentoo package managers discussion request (for the council)

2006-05-17 Thread Mark Loeser
uld proceed, that we not add anything else to the tree for the sole reason of supporting another package manager's features. This includes profiles or any other packages. This will reduce headaches for all of us, and hopefully cut down on needless arguments that get us no where. Thanks, --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-17 Thread Mark Loeser
oo's > patches.) No, I would get a testcase for the bug and file it upstream. The only bugs I've marked invalid are for the testing versions of GCC. But, this is entirely off topic. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC - Gentoo Knowledge Base

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Loeser
ey file a bug about something they did wrong, and this sounds like it would fill that void. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Loeser
of them one day replaces Portage, it will have my complete support, but until then, we should focus on keeping changes in the tree to a minimum for other package managers. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2006-05-07 Thread Mark Loeser
too.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0048.html -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgp7vJhlF

Re: [gentoo-dev] staffing needs expirations?

2006-05-03 Thread Mark Loeser
eed > to have items expire unless explicitly renewed? Thoughts? I think this is a good idea. We have some items on there that are years old, and it would be good to even update the requested date on them so that people know the requests are still valid. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-misc/xfsamba

2006-04-30 Thread Mark Loeser
xfsamba was merged into xffm by upstream awhile back, and has been unmaintained since. It will be removed in 30 days unless someone steps up to maintain it and fix the bugs it has (bug #127166 for example). Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-26 Thread Mark Loeser
s as herds a lot of the time. It has become a statement over time that people understand. I'm not sure why we want to try and change that to something else, even if that was what it was supposed to mean to begin with. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Mark Loeser
And now in GLEP format for those who like that sort of thing :) http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0048.html I made the two wording changes so it is more clear what I wanted to communicate. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > below, on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:11:28 -0400: > > >> > * QA will take an active role in cleaning up unmaintained and broken > >> > packages from the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Mark Loeser
QA team by giving them a > document that they can direct devs to when there is a problem. I addressed this in my reply to morfic, basically, it is just the wording that threw you off :) I mean that it can never be complete, so don't think it ever is. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Daniel Goller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Mark Loeser wrote: > > > Here is the newest revision of my proposal. Not much has changed, but I > > > added and changed some small things. Constructive feedback is > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Proposal v3

2006-04-24 Thread Mark Loeser
Daniel Goller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Here is the newest revision of my proposal. Not much has changed, but I > > added and changed some small things. Constructive feedback is > > appreciated. I'd like to get this voted on by the

[gentoo-dev] QA Proposal v3

2006-04-22 Thread Mark Loeser
information to avoid past problems. * QA will take an active role in cleaning up unmaintained and broken packages from the tree. It is also encouraged of members of the QA team to assist in mentoring new developers that wish to take over unmaintained packages/herds. -- Mark Loeser - G

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cccc

2006-04-15 Thread Mark Loeser
ning that up. It helps no one if there isn't anyone to claim responsibility for the package when there is a problem. Just my 2 cents, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cccc

2006-04-14 Thread Mark Loeser
dev-util/ is not depended on by any other applications, the stable version does not compile, and while upstream has newer releases which most likely work...there is no Gentoo maintainer (bug #128109). If no one steps up to maintain it in 30 days, I will be removing it. -- Mark Loeser

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-libs/korelib

2006-04-08 Thread Mark Loeser
There has been no upstream release in years, and the download URLs no longer work. It also has some open bugs (bug #127131). If anyone wishes to step up and maintain this, please do so within the next 30 days, or I am removing it from the tree. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Mark Loeser
once they heard about that. The people that walked up to us and just told us, "You guys rock!" were awesome too :) Just my two cents, :) -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT hal

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Loeser
hose as well. This shouldn't happen, but if they believe a group has stepped out of line... Things should only go to the council when all other methods fail, and they are the only ones you can appeal to. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email -

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Mark Loeser
hs. It became less a "Code of Conduct" and more of a developer relations/devrel/whatever policy. Lets keep that out of a document like this and decide on that through the appropriate channels. If those last two paragraphs are cut, I'm quite happy with it, even if it isn't al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites for app-misc/colortail

2006-04-03 Thread Mark Loeser
"Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You broke deps with that masking. I've commented it in package.mask so > you can fix that up first. Yea, I did. Sorry about that. Now x11-misc/paralogger is masked as well and will be removed at the

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for app-misc/colortail

2006-04-02 Thread Mark Loeser
Upstream has been dead for years and is unmaintained. Also requires some reworking to compile with gcc-4; bug #122022. It will be removed in 4 weeks unless someone steps up to maintain it. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] media-gfx/sodipodi

2006-04-01 Thread Mark Loeser
Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 30 March 2006 01:55, Mark Loeser wrote: > > Not directed specifically at you, but it seems a lot of people are > > masking stuff and removing it very quickly, and I'd really like to see > > everyone wait the

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-misc/trickle

2006-03-29 Thread Mark Loeser
ill be removing it in 30 days. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpRW5G91lZr8.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] media-gfx/sodipodi

2006-03-29 Thread Mark Loeser
there any reason that the package should be removed so quickly? -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Savannah CVS changes and the missing GNUStep herd

2006-03-18 Thread Mark Loeser
much we can do when there is no one to maintain them. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpoUzwZPe2e2.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] xemacs herd and maintainer

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Loeser
k all of the packages if no maintainer can be found to step up. So, is anyone willing to do so? -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-04 Thread Mark Loeser
o their lap when we can make choices for them which we believe to be sane. I'd like less errors/dies during the build/deptree phase and more warnings/information to be presented so the user could look at it and make changes, or just accept what we have done for them. -- Mark Loeser

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Loeser
uot; is needed. As he also suggested, we should keep a list of these in the form of open bugs so that we can get a better solution somewhere in the long-term. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Loeser
gt; decided not to address the points I raised about your original draft: I never said it was different. I said I added some things based on feedback I got. As I said in the last thread, I disagree with many of the things you have come up with. You are free to try and convince me otherwise. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Loeser
o that. I don't see where anyone is saying that we shouldn't fix things to adhere to coding standards. We are just saying it is not a, "OMG you broke it!" problem. It is about appropriate responses to the problems we encounter. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gc

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Loeser
e the weirdness. I agree. Coding standards, while they may qualify as violations, are not as severe, but are definitely things we would like to see fixed. They are there to make readability across ebuilds easier since everything will be formatted the same way for a developer to see. -- Mar

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Loeser
olution should be able to be achieved between the QA team and the maintainer. In situations where we can't figure out how to best address the situation, opening the discussion up to -dev may help, but in the end it should come down to an agreement between the maintainer and the team. -- M

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-01 Thread Mark Loeser
that we won't always get the perfect solution right away and that flexibility is required. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-01 Thread Mark Loeser
Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Here is my updated version after some feedback from people: > > * In the case of disagreement on policy among QA members, the majority > > of established QA members must agree with the action. > >

[gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-01 Thread Mark Loeser
another month, but I'd like to get all of the debate out of the way now. Please lets keep the discussion on topic and constructive. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT hal

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Mark Loeser
t expect him to change, not that I expect QA team members to behave that way. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Mark Loeser
cooperate so that Gentoo is the least buggy > distro of them all when 2006.1 comes out ;-) Thanks, hopefully enough people have faith in us to do the right thing so that we can get everything fixed up that we can. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa too

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Mark Loeser
different issue though, and I have talked to Ciaran about it. What I was saying above is that I am not going to go and get involved every single time someone has a disagreement. This situation has obviously grown to be ridiculous and I have had a talk with him about it, so he knows my feelings on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-27 Thread Mark Loeser
Grant Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > * In case of emergency, or if package maintainers refuse to cooperate, > > the QA team may take action themselves to fix the problem. > > My suspicion is that the more common problem is going to b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
should have this right in extreme circumstances. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgp8iRpskxJ5q.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:22:17 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | * The QA team will maintain a list of current "QA Standards". The > | list is not meant by any means to be a comprehensive document, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Well, instead of putting the debate into an even larger crowd, this > > enables the QA team to act in the way it sees best first. If people > > believe we were wrong, then we give them the option to ta

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
Stuart Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 17:22 -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: > > * In case of emergency, or if package maintainers refuse to cooperate, > > the QA team may take action themselves to fix the problem. > > I'd like to see this s

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
we plan to work as much with maintainers as possible, but sometimes that may prove to be impossible. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
first. If people believe we were wrong, then we give them the option to talk to the council about one of our changes. Also, we aren't unwilling to hear alternatives and we hope to work with the maintainer on these problems. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-p

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Loeser
st breakages will be presented with this request to devrel. * The QA team will maintain a list of current "QA Standards". The list is not meant by any means to be a comprehensive document, but rather a dynamic document that will be updated as new problems are discovered. -- Mark Loes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-nds/gq

2006-02-24 Thread Mark Loeser
eep it in the tree, step up and fix the bugs. It will be gone in 4 weeks. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for x11-libs/libwmfun

2006-02-16 Thread Mark Loeser
The package has been in package.mask since July 2002. Upstream appears dead. If no one objects, I will drop it from the tree in a week (since it has already been masked for years anyway :) ). -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Loeser
R Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Anyways I just like anything that makes use.desc more useful than > > foo - adds support for foo That's really a completely separate issue. By allowing duplicate entries we just allow people to put useless information in two places inste

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Loeser
or just something to keep my eye out for? I don't see this as a groundbreaking change that requires a GLEP or anything, especially since I eliminated most of the duplicates today, after talking with the respective maintainers. There are probably only 3 or 4 left. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Loeser
nd make sure they are alright with removing their entry. On a more global scale, we should decide if this is valid though. I haven't exactly been convinced that it is useful, but I'm not opposed to the idea. I'd just like to see a decision one way or another. -- Mark Loeser - Gen

[gentoo-dev] Duplicated entries in use.desc and use.local.desc

2006-02-12 Thread Mark Loeser
it be acceptable? -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpmrmdUiVjvE.pgp Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-libs/libpcap-ringbuffer

2006-02-11 Thread Mark Loeser
ndle switching to something else if they are using it? -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 09 February 2006 09:30, Mark Loeser wrote: > > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade. > > > Various packages that will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
pendencies. You need either gcc-3.3 or libstdc++-v3. I don't see forcing either upon our users to be a good thing. The upgrade doc covers how to do the 3.3->3.4 upgrade, and I think most archs are on 3.4 at this point. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86)

[gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
ed it. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpdH6MEmUfuw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 February 2006 02:28, Mark Loeser wrote: > > We are talking about completely unrelated versions, not what we are > > touching. > > For example, old imagemagick ebuilds sitting around, where the newer ebuilds >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

2006-01-31 Thread Mark Loeser
s are not. We have a security bug open about this package right now, and having an error about deps in some old version doesn't really help arch teams at all. I am all for getting stuff ported, but making things harder for arch teams is not the way to go about it. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-30 Thread Mark Loeser
eprecated"? Can we put this back to being a warning? It makes things a pain for arch teams that are trying to mark a completely unrelated version of the package. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Loeser
of our users. Yes, breakage will happen, but we can wait until its down to a more reasonable value. This huge push to get everything ported over only started recently, and I think we need more time. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Unmasking modular X

2006-01-24 Thread Mark Loeser
to be "things are known to be broken." It's meant to mean, we think all of this is ready to be stable, which it certainly won't be in this case. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Meeting summary: PHP Herd, January 2006

2006-01-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Luca Longinotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > We elected herd leads, agreed on how to deal with the old-style PHP > packages Please don't move the old-style PHP packages back to ~arch. That's just silly. p.mask them when you want to make people transition. -- Mark Loeser

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-19 Thread Mark Loeser
stead of generating all of the GCC profiles for every user. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgp0U9HtGxgjW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages without homepages

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Loeser
there are quite a few of these, so I'd like to know how to handle them. We need to either make repoman not complain if HOMEPAGE="" is supposed to be valid, or put "none" in there if necessary. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-03 Thread Mark Loeser
Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>I completely agree with you here. What Gentoo does is make a > >>meta-distribution, that one can utilize to build their own distribution &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-03 Thread Mark Loeser
Bug" project would be an excellent > idea to assist in this. We need a body with some teeth to get things > done in a timely manner. We also need enforcement of some sort to > ensure projects are active and reporting information on their status. Sounds good as well. I'd li

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with GCC 4 related bugs?

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Loeser
(always search for existing bugs of course). Yea, one report per package please, its much easier. > I'm wondering if a gcc4 tracker bug might help as Mark was planning to move it > in ~arch. Sounds like a good idea. I'll probably make one in a bit if someone doesn't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with GCC 4 related bugs?

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Loeser
s to ~arch soon, please report all bugs to us, even if you don't have a patch. I'd like to know of everything that is broken. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-28 Thread Mark Loeser
Bjarke Istrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Does this mean that gcc-3.4 will no longer have libstdc++ as a > dependency? :-D That is what I hope to accomplish, yes. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-26 Thread Mark Loeser
Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > So, everyone that has a binary package in the tree, I would appreciate it if > > you could put the sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 depend into your package if > > necessary. > > Well, yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
sure nothing stable depends on it. Bug #116253 was invalid due to the user's package.keywords. Thanks, -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tcl/Tk correction

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
in as ebuild. Module is named Tcl::Tk, placed on CPAN, similar to > perl/Tk, small and easy. > I'll do all needed work myself. > Could you please advice whom to contact? Where is FAQ for me to read? File a bug about this as well :) -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commiting of ~arch virtual/* ebuilds causes deptree issues

2005-12-21 Thread Mark Loeser
le for a > particular arch. > > Betelgeuse is working on a repoman check for this issue, meanwhile, if there > are more virtuals planned, please bear this in mind. :) It makes no sense to make a check to verify what seems to be broken behaviour. The virtuals should be like any other ebu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Loeser
Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > So, everyone that has a binary package in the tree, I would appreciate it if > you could put the sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 depend into your package if > necessary. Well, you can tell I didn't exactly think about this too much beforehand, si

[gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Loeser
appreciate it if you could put the sys-libs/libstdc++-v3 depend into your package if necessary. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gee, wouldn't it be nice (security bugs)...

2005-12-14 Thread Mark Loeser
n sort based off of. So, assuming all security bugs have the Product or such set correctly, you will be able to easily sort. Adding additional headers to the emails is really trivial if we need something else to make our lives easier. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Loeser
6 > arch monkeys have a lot of work on our hands. Yea, we need to know what is absolutely critical so we can add this to the ebuild policy if something should not go stable if the problem is present. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Loeser
Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote: > > You are working on a policy, or just docs to explain the issues? > > documentation on PIC/TEXTRELs/etc... > > the policy i consider a no-brainer, fix TEXTRELs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Loeser
duces textrels or such, I don't see the problem with marking it stable personally. The issues listed don't seem to warrant that. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Loeser
was listed above, I'm not sure why we should require that people fix these issues just to have a package deemed stable. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - h

[gentoo-dev] Textrels in packages policy

2005-12-13 Thread Mark Loeser
always avoid them. This should be added to existing documentation policy so it is somewhere for new devs to know about, and existing devs to have for a reference. Thanks -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org

[gentoo-dev] GCC-3.4 will be marked stable in ~1 hour on x86

2005-12-02 Thread Mark Loeser
ans you will need to wait for it to get all of the mirrors, which will take a bit longer after that. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/x86/gcc-upgrading-guide.xml [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Loeser
's needed here to avoid > things like Bug 64615. Yea, I updated my statement on the bug to reflect this. C++ stuff should be the only thing affected, so this _should_ be enough. Its also already something that's been in the ebuild for a while now. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo De

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Loeser
w. As for a doc, look at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102876 I'm hoping we can get something thrown together relatively quickly so I can mark it stable. Nothing is going to be required immediately from the user though, since their compiler won't be changed to 3.4 until they do s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Loeser
ly upgrade is available is what we are looking at. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Loeser
-3.4.* will not be selected as your system compiler after merging it. The old gcc profile is still valid, therefore it is kept. Users have to consciously go and change their profile to change their gcc, so nothing is going to just magically break. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-30 Thread Mark Loeser
Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Only thing I see > as lacking is we might want to get a doc together on how to properly upgrade > your toolchain so we don't get an influx of bugs from users that have a > system half compiled with 3.3 and the other half with 3.4 so th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-29 Thread Mark Loeser
stupid mistakes users could make. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com pgpgktGju3Vxt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Loeser
they remove it though, libstdc++-v3 should be pulled in after that. Only issue I really see is people that have libraries compiled with 3.3 and 3.4 and don't know why stuff is broken. I don't know how large of a problem that will be though. -- Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp g

[gentoo-dev] Moving GCC-3.4 to stable on x86

2005-11-28 Thread Mark Loeser
This is basically a heads-up email to everyone to say that we are probably going to be moving gcc-3.4.4-r1 to stable on x86 very soon. If any of the archs that have already done the move from having 3.3 stable to 3.4 could give us a heads up on what to expect, that would be great. Only thing I se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Split ELF Debug (default or not?)

2005-11-27 Thread Mark Loeser
Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I really can't give an accurate example. Halcyon who has been testing it > merged world and he was yeilded with 18M of debug info (I have no idea > how many packages he has). Just for the sake of reference, this was with 95 packages and CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pent

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-libs/luabind

2005-11-25 Thread Mark Loeser
If no one steps up to maintain it, luabind will be removed from the tree in 2 weeks. It has not had an upstream release since 2003 and is broken with newer versions of boost, >=1.32. Nothing in the tree deps on it, so there shouldn't be any problems with its removal. Thanks, Mark pgpG2gGPCKLN

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