Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Monday 21 June 2010 07:44:50 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] We already have 13 packages using this flag, with several more to come. The current description being used in packages' metadata.xml sucks - I'll put something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag gobject-introspection then ? Mostly because it seems exceedingly verbose to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Monday 21 June 2010 09:53:02 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various languages why not naming the useflag gobject-introspection then ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:13:56 +0530 Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: 2010/6/21 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org: On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 20:12 +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote: I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. ... Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd)

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 20 of June 2010 16:42:58 Arun Raghavan wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. The purpose of the flag is to enable the building of GIR for the package using dev-libs/gobject-introspection. gobject-introspection is going to be quite important in

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Duncan
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:04:03 +0200 as excerpted: On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing for the dynamic generation of bindings for various

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Olivier Crête
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 09:07 +, Duncan wrote: Paweł Hajdan, Jr. posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:04:03 +0200 as excerpted: On 6/21/10 8:53 AM, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 21 June 2010 11:43, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: introspection: Add gobject-introspection support, allowing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread René 'Necoro' Neumann
Am 21.06.2010 09:04, schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.: I think that introspection is similarly too general. What about calling the useflag GIR (or gir)? If the user does not know what it stands for, he will hopefully look up the description to see what it means. And in contrast to introspection the

[gentoo-dev] QA last rites for =sci-electronics/geda-1.4.3-r1; sci-libs/libgeda; sci-electronics/geda-gattrib; sci-electronics/geda-gnetlist; sci-electronics/geda-gschem; sci-electronics/geda-gsymchec

2010-06-21 Thread Diego E . Pettenò
# Diego E. Pettenò flamee...@gentoo.org (21 Jun 2010) # on behalf of QA team # # The geda-1.4.3-r1 is the only “split” ebuild for geda; # most of its dependencies are stable x86 but not all, so # the split itself is not stable; the latest stable on x86 is # 1.4.0-r1. The newer versions are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 20 of June 2010 16:42:58 Arun Raghavan wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. I don't mind adding it as globally recognizable USE flag, I'd mind however having it enabled

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Duncan
Olivier Crête posted on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:46:58 -0400 as excerpted: It's not the bindings... It's introspection data that describes the API. Well, the bindings themselves are dynamic, but this is what enables them, according to the description. Only explaining all that is a bit long to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposing fundamental changes to DevRel

2010-06-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 06/17/2010 11:29 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: Petteri, On 06/17/10 17:45, Petteri Räty wrote: We communicate in English but that doesn't mean we all the same cultural background. My native language doesn't do small talk and doesn't have a word for please. Of course when writing English

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Monday 21 of June 2010 16:22:08 Olivier Crête wrote: On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 09:33 +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: On Sunday 20 of June 2010 16:42:58 Arun Raghavan wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection. The purpose of the flag is to enable the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: introspection

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 21 June 2010 21:14, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: [...] If that's the case (they are essential for Gnome or whatever to work, just two files per package, not bringing any additional dependencies nor probability of causing compilation failures), I find it rather odd to make it

[gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello! My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt Thanks for your vote! Best, Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Petteri Räty
On 06/21/2010 07:33 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: Hello! My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt - Building sites - Active Council - More direct democracy - New conflict resolution team (reforming DevRel) - Ownership and

[gentoo-dev] My council manifesto

2010-06-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Its quite simple. I want to get innovation starting in Gentoo again. I am tired of seeing pointless arguments and threads that don't actually make Gentoo any better. Improving QA, improving our documentation, making it easier for people to recognize how they can contribute, and improving Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] My council manifesto

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 22 June 2010 00:40, Mark Loeser halc...@gentoo.org wrote: Its quite simple.  I want to get innovation starting in Gentoo again.  I am tired of seeing pointless arguments and threads that don't actually make Gentoo any better.  Improving QA, improving our documentation, making it easier for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hi, On 21 June 2010 22:03, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello! My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how you intend to tackle the problem, could you please

Re: [gentoo-dev] My council manifesto

2010-06-21 Thread Mark Loeser
Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org said: On 22 June 2010 00:40, Mark Loeser halc...@gentoo.org wrote: Its quite simple.  I want to get innovation starting in Gentoo again.  I am tired of seeing pointless arguments and threads that don't actually make Gentoo any better.  Improving QA,

Re: [gentoo-dev] My council manifesto

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 22 June 2010 00:57, Mark Loeser halc...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] Hope that helps, Indeed - thanks for the detailed response. Cheers, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) (arunsr | GNOME)

[gentoo-dev] Re: [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-06-21 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org: Having branches to do development and facilitate access and testing seems fine, however we should always have the goal of getting these tested revisions merged back into the main tree. We really don't want divergent development to be the norm. Right,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Nominations are now open

2010-06-21 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:04:24 +0300, Dror Levin sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I'll nominate robbat2, darkside and ferringb. Dror, Thanks for the vote of confidence. Now, I realize it is past the deadline for acceptance but I was not intending to accept after I saw the current batch of people that have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Petteri, On 06/21/10 20:20, Petteri Räty wrote: My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt - Building sites - Active Council - More direct democracy - New conflict resolution team (reforming DevRel) - Ownership and territories -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Voting

2010-06-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, June 19, 2010 15:56:03 Roy Bamford wrote: Everything is in place to allow voting in the above election commence as planned on June 20th at 00:00:00 UTC. The polls will remain open until July 3rd 23:59:59 UTC. the motd/whatever of dev.g.o really should contain active elections

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/traits: traits-3.4.0.ebuild

2010-06-21 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-06-21 00:27:00 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): On Sunday, June 20, 2010 09:55:39 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2010-06-19 22:53:37 Mike Frysinger napisał(a): On Thursday, June 10, 2010 16:45:29 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar wrote: 2010-06-10 22:20:44 Nirbheek Chauhan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Arun, On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote: My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how you intend to tackle the problem, could you please elaborate? please take your time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:36:50PM +0200, Sebastian Pipping wrote: Arun, On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote: My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how you intend

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
That is a very audacious vision you have. I am curious if you have any priorities set for the list you provided. At first reading it appears like you have more work than any one person could complete (nay, even a skilled council would be hard pressed to finish everything there.) My intention is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 06/22/10 03:46, Brian Harring wrote: Your proposed solutions in your manifesto is to just throw out the manifest bits that need completion, in the process ignoring the infrastructural and security reasons for their existance. Same goes for ignoring the commit hooks chunk for rsync

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 22 June 2010 03:06, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: Arun, On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote: My manifesto up here now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how you intend to tackle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-06-21 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 22 June 2010 03:06, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: (w.r.t. git migration) I hope to see Robin integrate me with the conversion process. How have you contributed to the effort thus far? I would like to re-phrase this question to how come you are able to help, okay? That is