Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 7/10/06, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote: > On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote: > > c is simpler. I like it. > Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to > ta

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 19:17:09 +0200 Matthias Schwarzott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > As the situation now has changed I would like to discuss this one > more. Since one week we (hd_brummy and me) have changed our Gentoo > VDR Project > (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/video/vdr/index.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Kevin F. Quinn wrote: I don't believe retro-actively modifying the 2006.0 profile is a good idea in general. The profile currently says that for x86, gcc must be ">=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1" - if you do # emerge >=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1 on a current tree you'll get a much higher version. Still,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 15:27:14 -0700 Josh Saddler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:48 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: | > Not true. According to the 2006.0 x86 profile, for > > exampl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sun, 9 Jul 2006 23:30:40 +0200 "Molle Bestefich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard Fish wrote: > > The expectation here is that when a new version of gcc is > > stabilized, that users will upgrade to that in a reasonable amount > > of time, and use that (by selecting it with gcc-config) for

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote: > On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote: > > c is simpler. I like it. > Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to > tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote: > c is simpler. I like it. Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer is listed. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Off with your heads!

2006-07-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/07/06, Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 20:46 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote: > @devs, > > If your blog is being aggregated on Planet Gentoo / Universe, it's time to send > us a copy of your smiling face. I'm putting out a request for some > hackergotchis. Real

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Luca Barbato
Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > What do you think of that? c is simpler. I like it. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux Gentoo/PPC http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > In bug #139412, I ask Paul de Vriese why he thinks python should die > on --fast-math instead of just filtering it. Here's his answer : > > "Denis, quite simple. -ffast-math is broken and short-sighted for a > global flag. > Filtering gives the shortsighted message that it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Michael Cummings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molle Bestefich wrote: >> > What versioning system do you guys use (CVS?), >> > and what's the URL for checking out ebuilds? >> >> bugs.gentoo.org is where this kind of work is done. > > There's already an existing but unmaintained ebuild. > That's wh

[gentoo-dev] Re: helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
> What versioning system do you guys use (CVS?), > and what's the URL for checking out ebuilds? bugs.gentoo.org is where this kind of work is done. There's already an existing but unmaintained ebuild. That's what I wanted to check out, so I could modify it and submit a diff -u. -- gentoo-dev@ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Josh Saddler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:48 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > Not true. According to the 2006.0 x86 profile, for example, you're > | > required to have ">=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1". There is no requirement > | > t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Michael Cummings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molle Bestefich wrote: > Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: >> You'd rather fill in a bug report and submit the patch in the bug. >> Not in this list, definitely. > > Oh, ok. Never mind then, I fear I'd be spending way too much time > fighting with Jakub tryin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for some CD/DVD-recording applications

2006-07-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Lars Weiler wrote: app-cdr/dvdrtools: Same reason. No need to use this fork of cdrtools-1.11... This is a lot more more than a "add DVD writing support" fork - they have changed much more than that, and they have an interesting list of objectives. It's a much saner version of cdrtools. P

[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
Richard Fish wrote: The expectation here is that when a new version of gcc is stabilized, that users will upgrade to that in a reasonable amount of time, and use that (by selecting it with gcc-config) for compiling all new updates. FYI, gcc-3.4.4-r1 was stabilized on 2-Dec-2005, and the current

[gentoo-dev] Dying on some CFLAGS instead of filtering them.

2006-07-09 Thread Denis Dupeyron
Dear devs, In bug #139412, I ask Paul de Vriese why he thinks python should die on --fast-math instead of just filtering it. Here's his answer : "Denis, quite simple. -ffast-math is broken and short-sighted for a global flag. Filtering gives the shortsighted message that it works globally, while

Re: [gentoo-dev] helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/9/06, Molle Bestefich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to take a stab at maintainership (or at least fixing) an unmaintained ebuild. What versioning system do you guys use (CVS?), and what's the URL for checking out ebuilds? bugs.gentoo.org is where this kind of work is done. -Richard

[gentoo-dev] Re: helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: You'd rather fill in a bug report and submit the patch in the bug. Not in this list, definitely. Oh, ok. Never mind then, I fear I'd be spending way too much time fighting with Jakub trying to get the ebuild in the tree. I'll just drop it. (Nothing personal, I just d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 7/9/06, Molle Bestefich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Try reading the bug - users are basically being shoved off with an arrogant silence and a stamp on their forehead saying INVALID. *Sigh*. You really should post to -user first. The expectation here is that when a new version of gcc is sta

[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
Jakub Moc wrote: > Try reading the bug - users are basically being shoved off with an > arrogant silence and a stamp on their forehead saying INVALID. > > Nothing personal against Jakub Moc who probably has a lot to do, but > the handling of relevant issues raised in the bugzilla is just > unacce

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:48 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Not true. According to the 2006.0 x86 profile, for example, you're | > required to have ">=sys-devel/gcc-3.3.4-r1". There is no requirement | > that 3.4 be installed. | | Yeah, that's not what I've been talking about at al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Jakub Moc
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:37:47 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Molle Bestefich wrote: > | > I noticed that several users have commented with a relevant > | > complaint: GCC-4.x is required by the ebuild, but no information is > | > ever conveyed to the end user

Re: [gentoo-dev] helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
You'd rather fill in a bug report and submit the patch in the bug. Not in this list, definitely. On 7/9/06, Molle Bestefich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to take a stab at maintainership (or at least fixing) an unmaintained ebuild. What versioning system do you guys use (CVS?), and what's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:37:47 +0200 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Molle Bestefich wrote: | > I noticed that several users have commented with a relevant | > complaint: GCC-4.x is required by the ebuild, but no information is | > ever conveyed to the end user about this fact. The ebuild doe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Jakub Moc
Molle Bestefich wrote: > I noticed that several users have commented with a relevant complaint: > GCC-4.x is required by the ebuild, but no information is ever conveyed > to the end user about this fact. The ebuild does not have a > dependency on GCC-4.x. No, it's not. gcc-3.4.x *is* required. Th

[gentoo-dev] helping out - how?

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
I'd like to take a stab at maintainership (or at least fixing) an unmaintained ebuild. What versioning system do you guys use (CVS?), and what's the URL for checking out ebuilds? (I was thinking that I'd conjure up a patch and submit it here so someone with commit access can put it in.) -- gento

[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage: missing pieces

2006-07-09 Thread Molle Bestefich
Molle Bestefich wrote: The current situation is very annoying for users that update often, and also makes Portage mostly unusable for automatic server upgrades After unmerging mono-tools so Portage could finally run a whole update, it stopped halfway through because of this bug: http://bugs.gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Off with your heads!

2006-07-09 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 20:46 -0600, Steve Dibb wrote: > @devs, > > If your blog is being aggregated on Planet Gentoo / Universe, it's time to > send > us a copy of your smiling face. I'm putting out a request for some > hackergotchis. Really, you don't want just a few of us to have all the fun

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

2006-07-09 Thread Olivier Crête
On Thu, 2006-06-07 at 13:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:29:39 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | On Thursday 06 July 2006 14:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > Sounds rather flaky and unreliable... > | Sounds rather vague and without arguments

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Matthias Schwarzott
Hi! As the situation now has changed I would like to discuss this one more. Since one week we (hd_brummy and me) have changed our Gentoo VDR Project (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/video/vdr/index.xml) to an official subproject of desktop/video. Now the situation is as follows: Most pack

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

2006-07-09 Thread John Mylchreest
On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 03:21:49PM +0200, Andrej Kacian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200 > Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls > > > from certain people, I will retract my resignation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-09 Thread John Mylchreest
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:32:36PM +0200, "Kevin F. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>This is duplicating the superb efforts of the kernel team and of > > >>linux-info eclass. As such I would like to deprecate $KV in favor > > >>of using linux-info eclass. I don't see the need for portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-07-09 Thread John Mylchreest
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 11:13:33AM +, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Portage currently exports $KV as the current kernel version. We detect > this by attempting to mess around with the things in /usr/src/linux > (.config, make files, etc...) > > This is duplicating the superb effo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo activity graphs

2006-07-09 Thread Philip Webb
060709 Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: > On Sunday 09 July 2006 01:10, Duncan wrote: >> An interesting observation was that of all the FLOSS projects, >> perhaps only Debian had successfully crossed the line >> from "medium" to "large". > but they have maintainers that often does not know what the