On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:56:28 -0700
Matt Turner wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
> > I am one of the users who spoke to idella4 about this, but I wanted
> > to repeat this publicly in order to highlight the point of view of
> > contributing user as opposed to a developer.
>
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:37:23 -0700
Matt Turner wrote:
> >>
> >> Mailing list review is the *norm* in the free software world.
> >>
> >
> > Oh, the norm
>
> You're being quite rude with attempted mockery -- actually, the rest
> of your reply is pretty abrupt as well.
>
> If you want to fight, fi
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:49 PM, NP-Hardass wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is what Ian is referring to, but between the sheer
> quantity (flooding) and the way I perceived some of the messages to be
> formulated, it all seemed rather abrasive in nature. Of course this
> was my own viewpoint on how
Hi:
I created a ebuild with a patch for xf86-input-evdev to try and
debounce my mouse button. The ebuild is at
https://github.com/cor-mt/portage-overlay/blob/master/x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev/xf86-input-evdev-2.9.2-r1.ebuild
it compile and install fine but with it installed neither the
keyb
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 9:44 PM, wraeth wrote:
> I'm not trying to escalate the argument but you seem to have
> misinterpreted my initial message.
>
> On 12/10/15 03:56, Matt Turner wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
>>> I am one of the users who spoke to idella4 about this,
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:37:23 -0700
Matt Turner wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ian Delaney
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:56:28 -0700 Matt Turner
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth
>>> wrote:
>>
I feel that it is inappropriate for criticisms
I'm not trying to escalate the argument but you seem to have
misinterpreted my initial message.
On 12/10/15 03:56, Matt Turner wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
>> I am one of the users who spoke to idella4 about this, but I wanted
>> to repeat this publicly in order to high
Matt Turner posted on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:56:28 -0700 as excerpted:
> Mailing list review is the *norm* in the free software world.
Just noting that I've been watching this first-hand on both the gentoo-
portage-dev list and the btrfs list. I don't claim to be a coder, but I
often make it a poi
Michał Górny posted on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:02:43 +0200 as excerpted:
> Furthermore, *please* don't mix old version removals with other changes.
> This makes it unnecessarily hard to revert breaking changes. Let's
> suppose you accidentally removed a version that had reverse
> dependencies. If you
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Ian Delaney wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:56:28 -0700
> Matt Turner wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I feel that it is inappropriate for criticisms of contributor's
>> > work to be broadcast on a mailing list that is read n
20151007-16:23 ultrabug c3a604e
dev-python/vulture 20151006-21:43 vapier 48c3ef6
dev-ros/calibration_estimation 20151011-13:59 aballier 6cbb969
dev-ros/calibration_launch 20151011-14:03 aballier a8d6e91
dev-ros/calibration_msgs 20151011-12:15
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:56:28 -0700
Matt Turner wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
> >
> > I feel that it is inappropriate for criticisms of contributor's
> > work to be broadcast on a mailing list that is read not only by the
> > developer community, but by users as well, w
Ok, in the Council meeting today the following was made policy:
"Maintainers must not assume that dynamic dependencies will be applied
by the package manager. When changing runtime dependencies the
maintainer should revision the ebuild if the changes are likely to
cause problems for end users."
Th
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:17 AM, wraeth wrote:
> I am one of the users who spoke to idella4 about this, but I wanted to
> repeat this publicly in order to highlight the point of view of
> contributing user as opposed to a developer.
>
> Firstly I would like to say that I appreciate feedback on my
Dnia 2015-10-11, o godz. 13:02:50
Manuel Rüger napisał(a):
> On 11.10.2015 10:29, Brendan Horan wrote:
> > - On 11 Oct, 2015, at 4:17 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/10/15 18:52, Ian Delaney wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200 Alexis Ballier
> >>> wrote:
> >
Dnia 2015-10-11, o godz. 15:52:40
Ian Delaney napisał(a):
> To my observation the reaction to this has been between displeasure and
> dismay. Yesterday the dev-ML was flooded with the first day's
> publication of the members' reviews. Firstly the gentoo-commits ML to my
> understanding is intende
Dnia 2015-10-10, o godz. 17:48:15
William Hubbs napisał(a):
> All,
>
> fhs 3.0 was approved in June this year [1] [2].
>
> The piece of it that I want to bring up is the lib and libxx
> directories, both in / and /usr. The way I read the fhs, /lib and
> /usr/lib should hold the files for the de
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:46:20AM +, Duncan wrote:
> William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:48:15 -0500 as excerpted:
>
> > All,
> >
> > fhs 3.0 was approved in June this year [1] [2].
> >
> > The piece of it that I want to bring up is the lib and libxx
> > directories, both in / and /
Dnia 2015-10-10, o godz. 18:50:51
"Brian Dolbec" napisał(a):
> commit: 6d6b97e870f98e26a6e5de0712da048495057286
> Author: Brian Dolbec gentoo org>
> AuthorDate: Sat Oct 10 17:47:28 2015 +
> Commit: Brian Dolbec gentoo org>
> CommitDate: Sat Oct 10 18:49:55 2015 +
> URL:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:02:50 +0200
Manuel Rüger wrote:
> It might be also worth to think about limiting the feedback to the
> actual patch that is included in a pull request or whatever is used as
> transport media.
> I have the feeling that some pull requests are accepted, after the
> package ha
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> So, here is a consolidated list of the latest proposals:
>
It has been suggested that there might be rare cases where the
exceptions in the eclass proposals might apply to ebuilds, so doing
some refactoring I think the latest proposals are:
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On 10/11/2015 01:21 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand
> wrote:
>>
>> Another thing that strikes me is separation of stable vs ~arch
>> behavior.
>>
..
>
> I'm not sure that we're doing stable us
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:04:31 +0200
hasufell wrote:
> On 10/11/2015 09:52 AM, Ian Delaney wrote:
> >
> > To my observation the reaction to this has been between displeasure
> > and dismay. Yesterday the dev-ML was flooded with the first day's
> > publication of the members' reviews. Firstly the
On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
>
> Another thing that strikes me is separation of stable vs ~arch behavior.
>
> This applies in particular with in-place eclass alterations. Users on
> ~arch should normally expect more activity (in particular number of
> builds and ch
On 10/11/2015 09:19 AM, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
>
> This is good news. There are quite a few developers that manage a small
> subset of packages while doing tremendous work for Gentoo within that
> community. For instance, they focus on particular deliverables in
> repositories which eventually get
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>> Proposal 3a might be: Anytime an RDEPEND in an eclass is changed, the
>>> eclass must be revisioned unless all ebuilds in the gentoo repository
>>> will contin
On 10/11/2015 09:52 AM, Ian Delaney wrote:
>
> To my observation the reaction to this has been between displeasure and
> dismay. Yesterday the dev-ML was flooded with the first day's
> publication of the members' reviews. Firstly the gentoo-commits ML to my
> understanding is intended to be used
On 11.10.2015 10:29, Brendan Horan wrote:
> - On 11 Oct, 2015, at 4:17 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote:
>
>> On 11/10/15 18:52, Ian Delaney wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200 Alexis Ballier
>>> wrote:
>>>
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:09:11 +0200 Michał Górny
wrote:
>
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 05:48:15PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> fhs 3.0 was approved in June this year [1] [2].
>
> The piece of it that I want to bring up is the lib and libxx
> directories, both in / and /usr. The way I read the fhs, /lib and
> /usr/lib should hold the files for the d
Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:30:32 -0400 as excerpted:
> I don't think it is a bad thing if you wanted to publish the top-5
> issues of the week/month/etc on the lists or something useful for
> general education/improvement. The key is to keep the general relevance
> of the lists hi
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:48:15 -0500 as excerpted:
> All,
>
> fhs 3.0 was approved in June this year [1] [2].
>
> The piece of it that I want to bring up is the lib and libxx
> directories, both in / and /usr. The way I read the fhs, /lib and
> /usr/lib should hold the files f
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:37:39 +0200
hasufell wrote:
[...]
> >> This is just a concept of peer-reviewing, which was very difficult
> >> in CVS times.
> >
> > I fail to see how post-commit reviews are made easier with git.
> >
>
> Quite offtopic, but we could discuss this off-list if you want.
Y
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:48:15 -0500
William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> fhs 3.0 was approved in June this year [1] [2].
>
> The piece of it that I want to bring up is the lib and libxx
> directories, both in / and /usr. The way I read the fhs, /lib and
> /usr/lib should hold the files for the defaul
- On 11 Oct, 2015, at 4:17 PM, wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au wrote:
> On 11/10/15 18:52, Ian Delaney wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200 Alexis Ballier
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:09:11 +0200 Michał Górny
>>> wrote:
>>>
Hello, developers.
I have the pleasu
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 19:17:58 +1100
wraeth wrote:
> On 11/10/15 18:52, Ian Delaney wrote:
> > On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200 Alexis Ballier
> > wrote:
> >
>
> I am one of the users who spoke to idella4 about this, but I wanted to
> repeat this publicly in order to highlight the point of vie
On 11/10/15 18:52, Ian Delaney wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200 Alexis Ballier
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:09:11 +0200 Michał Górny
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, developers.
>>>
>>> I have the pleasure
>
> :?
>
>>> to announce that we have formed a new Reviewers team [1] for
>>
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:27:15 +0200
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:09:11 +0200
> Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > Hello, developers.
> >
> > I have the pleasure
:?
> > to announce that we have formed a new Reviewers
> > team [1] for Gentoo. The team is going to assemble developers
>
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> I have the pleasure to announce that we have formed a new Reviewers
> team [1] for Gentoo. The team is going to assemble developers willing
> to perform ebuild reviews and help contributors improve their ebuild
> skills.
>
> The main
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