Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 10/14/2016 05:15 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 15/10/16 00:04, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload them to our YouTube account and/or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:05:43 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > It is some what a moot problem, but I think it would be good to adopt such or > similar requirement, maybe in the PMS. Many already follow the -bin suffix > now. > I just do not believe it is a requirement anywhere. Which if

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 15/10/16 01:15, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 15/10/16 00:04, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload them to our YouTube account and/or Arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 15/10/16 00:04, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: >> On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: >>> Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload them to our >>> YouTube account and/or Archive.org for hosting? >>> >>> Kind regards, >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 09:34:44PM +0100, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: > > Not sure what we're going to do about video. Upload them to our > > YouTube account and/or Archive.org for hosting? > > > > Kind regards, > > Matthew > > > YouTube would be good .. do we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 4:00:53 PM EDT William Hubbs wrote: > > Remember that src_compile could be in an eclass or the package could be > using the default src_compile for the EAPI. FYI, the main Java eclasses, ant and simple, have default src_compile. I have lots of Java ebuilds without suc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 4:00:53 PM EDT William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 01:05:43PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > *snip* > > > If a package is src_install only, no > > src_compile, it should be required to have a -bin suffix, or -gbin if self > > made. > I disagree wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 01:05:43PM -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: *snip* > If a package is src_install only, no > src_compile, it should be required to have a -bin suffix, or -gbin if self > made. I disagree with this. Remember that src_compile could be in an eclass or the package could

[gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 84 bugs

2016-10-14 Thread Alex Alexander
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 8:15:35 PM EDT Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > The devmanual has the same info as in the PMS including on the suffix > > https://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/head/pms.html#x1-33.2 > > That section is about version suffixes (like _beta or _rc), not about > package names. I a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 14/10/16 09:33, Matthew Marchese wrote: > On 10/07/2016 04:56 PM, Matthew Marchese wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Thought I'd send a RFC out to you all to get a little feedback before I >> make any changes to this since I didn't originally start the project. If >> no one responds with a good reason w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016, William L Thomson wrote: > On Friday, October 14, 2016 1:36:20 PM EDT Mike Gilbert wrote: >> I see no reason to specify a file naming convention like this in PMS. >> This isn't really a technical problem, but rather a Gentoo policy >> issue. Other repos/distros should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 1:36:20 PM EDT Mike Gilbert wrote: > > I see no reason to specify a file naming convention like this in PMS. > This isn't really a technical problem, but rather a Gentoo policy > issue. Other repos/distros should be free to call their ebuilds > whatever they like. I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:05 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Problem > 1. There does not seem to be any file name requirement for binary packages. > 2. There are binary packages that end in -bin, which is good. However it is > not clear if that is an upstream 3rd party binary. Or a binary made

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 14/10/16 01:17 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Friday, October 14, 2016 1:09:25 PM EDT Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 14/10/16 01:05 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >>> Problem >>> 2. There are binary packages that end in -bin, which is good. However it >>> is >>> not clear if that is an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
On Friday, October 14, 2016 1:09:25 PM EDT Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 14/10/16 01:05 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Problem > > 2. There are binary packages that end in -bin, which is good. However it > > is > > not clear if that is an upstream 3rd party binary. Or a binary made by > > com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 14/10/16 01:05 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Problem > 2. There are binary packages that end in -bin, which is good. However it is > not clear if that is an upstream 3rd party binary. Or a binary made by > compiling a large Gentoo package, by a Gentoo dev or contributor on a Gentoo > sy

[gentoo-dev] Package file name requirement for binary ebuilds

2016-10-14 Thread William L. Thomson Jr.
Not sure where this would go, likely in the PMS presently 3.1.2 package names, or some subsection. https://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/pms/head/pms.html#x1-210003.1.2 I have looked for other documents on this topic and have not found any. Specifically on any requirement or specification of file names. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Handbook

2016-10-14 Thread Matthew Marchese
On 10/14/2016 03:12 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/14/2016 01:24 AM, Matthew Marchese wrote: >> All, >> >> After _many_ essential and necessary years of service the Gentoo >> Documentation Project (GDP) has fulfilled its purpose[1][2] and is in >> the process of being phased out. >> >> As a pla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 14/10/16 10:22 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/13/2016 10:21 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 13/10/16 10:13 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: >>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Fernando Rodriguez >>> mailto:cyklon...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> On 10/04/2016 06:24 PM, William Hubbs wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: the demise of grub:0

2016-10-14 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On 10/13/2016 10:21 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 13/10/16 10:13 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Fernando Rodriguez >> mailto:cyklon...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 10/04/2016 06:24 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> > >> > This would actually be another reas

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Handbook

2016-10-14 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 10/14/2016 01:24 AM, Matthew Marchese wrote: > All, > > After _many_ essential and necessary years of service the Gentoo > Documentation Project (GDP) has fulfilled its purpose[1][2] and is in > the process of being phased out. > > As a platform, the wiki has enabled every Gentoo developer (no

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Handbook

2016-10-14 Thread Aaron Bauman
On Friday, October 14, 2016 5:24:02 PM JST, Matthew Marchese wrote: All, After _many_ essential and necessary years of service the Gentoo Documentation Project (GDP) has fulfilled its purpose[1][2] and is in the process of being phased out. As a platform, the wiki has enabled every Gentoo devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Dead project cleanup - Merging Presentation with Public Relations

2016-10-14 Thread Matthew Marchese
On 10/07/2016 04:56 PM, Matthew Marchese wrote: > Hi all, > > Thought I'd send a RFC out to you all to get a little feedback before I > make any changes to this since I didn't originally start the project. If > no one responds with a good reason why NOT to make the changes I > purpose, I will proc

[gentoo-dev] New project: Handbook

2016-10-14 Thread Matthew Marchese
All, After _many_ essential and necessary years of service the Gentoo Documentation Project (GDP) has fulfilled its purpose[1][2] and is in the process of being phased out. As a platform, the wiki has enabled every Gentoo developer (not just those in the Documentation team) and many in the commun

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Ban dolib and libopts in EAPI 7

2016-10-14 Thread David Seifert
On Do, 2016-10-13 at 15:53 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Hi all, > > I suggest that we ban the dolib and libopts commands in EAPI 7. > > Rationale: > 1. There are about 60 instances of dolib in the tree. At least one >    third of them appears to be wrong (e.g., should be replaced by >    dolib.