[gentoo-dev] news item and patch series: 2024-05-10-perl-features-use-expand.en.txt

2024-05-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
. Title: dev-lang/perl useflags become a PERL_FEATURES use-expand Author: Andreas K. Huettel Posted: 2024-05-10 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Starting with dev-lang/perl-5.38.2-r3, the three use flags "debug", "ithreads", and "quadmath" of Perl are renamed int

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I see no way of migrating to 23.0 profile because of not-recompilable > packages that are installed (over 4 years) which block --emptytree, > and do not wish to be forced to migrate to merged-usr on an openrc box > without a compelling need (on principle). That sounds a bit like self-inflicted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 14:51:55 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On Sun, 2024-04-07 at 14:35 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > > Uhh, I dont really remember, I think some Chinese-sounding guy asked > > me for it... (j/k) > > It is remarkably bad timing. How

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 7. April 2024, 04:03:01 CEST schrieb Michael Orlitzky: > On Sat, 2024-04-06 at 17:06 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles: > > > > Why was this silently added to ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Most 17.x profiles have been downgraded to "exp". > > I could imagine there is a reason to downgrade those back to 'exp', > could you elaborate a bit on that? > > Isn't it bit strange that a 'stable' profiles gets downgraded back to > 'exp'? Then again, I am not sure about the implications

[gentoo-dev] Update on the 23.0 profiles

2024-04-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, so here's a small update on the state of the 23.0 profiles: * For all arches, the 23.0 profiles are now marked at the same stability status (mostly for the CI and pkgcheck) as before the 17.x profiles. Most 17.x profiles have been downgraded to "exp". * All stage downloads (with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 16. März 2024, 13:12:04 CET schrieb Duncan: > Andreas K. Huettel posted on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 19:12:54 +0100 as excerpted: > > > Note 3: amd64 now has CET turned on by default. > > https://docs.kernel.org/next/x86/shstk.html If you have already used the > > u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Note 2: While there are 23.0 split-usr profiles, the *stage* downloads > > are *all* of the merged-usr type. Why? Not because I'm a big fan of that, > > but because we should try to unify and standardize a bit again - to > > avoid too many different build configurations leading to too many

Re: [gentoo-dev] mirror storage growth rate

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Jaco, * we have more stages * the binary packages have to go somewhere * and, temporarily, things are duplicated due to the 17.x / 23.0 profile transition The third point will eventually go away. However, I'm not sure how much it actually contributes.

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 2 of 2)

2024-03-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads, binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations, for all arches. IMPORTANT Exception IMPORTANT ** musl on (32bit) arm and x86 does NOT work yet (gcc build failure) ** IMPORTANT Update instructions

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024, 15:45:17 CET schrieb Michał Górny: > Hello, > > Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to > look into formally addressing the related concerns. In my opinion, > at this point the only reasonable course of action would be to safely > ban

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 news item (was: Re: Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 1 of 2))

2024-02-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
News item / update instructions draft: Title: Profile upgrade to version 23.0 available Author: Andreas K. Huettel Posted: -mm-dd Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Keyword: alpha Display-If-Keyword: arm Display-If-Keyword: ia64 Display-If-Keyword: loong Display-If-Keyword: m68k

[gentoo-dev] Profile 23.0 testing with stages and binhost (part 1 of 2)

2024-02-20 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, for the following arches (and only these) ** GLIBC: ** alpha, arm, ia64, loong, m68k, ppc, ppc64, riscv, s390, sparc, x86 ** MUSL: ** riscv the 23.0 profiles are ready for testing, including stage downloads, binary packages, and update instructions for existing installations.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Block ebuilds installing tests to ${D} by default

2024-02-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2024, 09:15:39 CET schrieb Robin H. Johnson: > TL;DR: > I'd like to propose a change where packages should NOT install their > tests to ${D} by default. Such an install may optionally enabled with > USE=test, which should be decoupled from FEATURES=test. Or depending on >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] global USE=gpg

2023-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > we have many local gpg useflags which basically just enable gpg. > > Should we merge these to one global useflag? > > > > Additionally we have a few gpgme useflags. > > See also https://bugs.gentoo.org/679634 > > > > What are your ideas? > > > > We have also have a bunch of USE=pgp and

[gentoo-dev] Official binary package hosting

2023-12-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, you may have already seen the announcement on the www.gentoo.org front page- our binary package hosting finally went "officially live". https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html From the announcement: "To speed up working with slow hardware and for overall

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Wait, does this mean that split-usr will be gone soon? > Define soon. It took us 6 years to come up with new profiles. Guess how long the next ones will take. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
ged-usr but > without systemd anyway... except that there is: > default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/plasma, it's just not mentioned in the > table. It's fairly simple: * In 17.x, every systemd split-usr profile has a corresponding merged-usr profile * In 23.0, every split-usr profile

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 26. November 2023, 17:50:22 CET schrieb Alex Boag-Munroe: > On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 at 23:27, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > > * A draft upgrade document exists. > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_update_instructions > > I can't edit the

[gentoo-dev] Update on 23.0 profiles

2023-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, here's a brief update on the upcoming 23.0 profiles. * All planned features are implemented (but not necessarily tested). https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/23.0_profile_transition * A draft upgrade document exists.

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-video/mpv removed USE flag

2023-11-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 22. November 2023, 00:33:18 CET schrieb stefan1@shitposting.expert: > I've noticed that on my last @world update, mpv's libplacebo USE flag > got removed and portage pulled in libplacebo. > Was there any reason behind this change? Special request by Placebo Domingo. > Mpv has

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-editors/fte

2023-10-31 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
+# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-10-28) +# Fails to build with glibc-2.38 (and musl). No maintainer. +# Removal on 2023-11-28. Bug #713402 +app-editors/fte + -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] last rites (kinda, long masked): sys-apps/opentmpfiles

2023-09-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-06, 2023-09-15) # No longer maintained upstream; masked everywhere for two years now. # Please see also the 2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation news item. # https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-07-15-opentmpfiles-deprecation.html # # The replacement is

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> >> I'm an outsider to Gentoo development (just a heavy user for over a > >> decade both personally and professionally) so I might have missed > >> something. I just find it puzzling. > > > > I'm not puzzled by what is going on, or by your email, because it > > happens basically anytime a

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 11. September 2023, 17:22:43 CEST schrieb orbea: > Upstream is maintained still. > > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev > No, it's not. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2023-09-11) # Dead project accumulating open bugs and incompatibilities. # No maintainer commits since February 2021. # Bugs 673834, 713106, 753134, 667686, 771705, 668880, 770358, 851255, # 711462, 904741, ... Removal in 30 days. sys-fs/eudev -- Andreas K. Hüttel

[gentoo-dev] adding sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release to @system

2023-08-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Dear all, I'd like to add sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release to @system - any objections? The package contains a single file (~20k) with the public keys used for stage, manifest, and binpackage signing. This is more of a formal request since portage already depends on it anyway, and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] What happened to gcc-12.3.0?

2023-06-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 15. Juni 2023, 06:02:14 CEST schrieb Joshua Kinard: > > Noticing that the ebuild for gcc-12.3.0 got dropped with little explanation. > It is the upstream stable > release. I am eyeballing #906310 as what may have triggered the drop, but I > find it a bit of a stretch ... This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-announce] Gentoo Services Migration: Bugzilla, Forums, Wiki

2023-03-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Just keep in mind that CI can't search for open bugs on bugzilla (because of > a down of > course), so bugs that have already been reported in the past, may be reported > on github > too, but from my perspective is better have few duplicates rather than > unnoticed bugs > that may reach

Re: [gentoo-dev] Various packages up for grabs (avahi, curl, fcron, tor...)

2023-01-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > acct-group/cron > acct-group/fcron > acct-user/cron > acct-user/fcron > dev-libs/libelf > net-misc/curl > sys-process/cronbase > sys-process/fcron > virtual/cron > virtual/libelf > These should probably go to base-system -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer

[gentoo-dev] 23.0 profiles - which features?

2022-10-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, in the past I already sent a mail about features for a next profile version. The feedback was rather limited, but anyway we got quite a list of ideas. The general tracker is bug 876891. In the following I would like to put up the various features for discussion, in order of bug

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: "Trusted contributor model"

2022-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Once again new council has been elected: congratulations to the chosen > members! And once again many nominees expressed their wishes to see more > non-developer contributors to become official developers. Yet, only very > few people (if any) are interested in mentoring them. I get it, the >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: "Trusted contributor model"

2022-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > 2nd RFC: Recruiting proven contributors without a mentor > > I'm aware recruiters don't really need to ask a permission here, but I > believe it's great to gauge the general feelings about this beforehand. > What would you say if recruiters started more actively approaching > potential

[gentoo-dev] last rites: mail-client/novell-groupwise-client

2022-06-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-06-05) # Ages old, abandoned upstream, and server installs now provide an # actually useful webmail interface. Removal in 30 days. mail-client/novell-groupwise-client -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain,

[gentoo-dev] it's time for 22.0 profiles

2022-05-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, it's time for introducing 22.0 profiles [1] - so if you have any things that need to be switched in an incompatible way tree-wide, or if you have any suggestions on how to change our default settings, please reply to this mail with details! Cheers, Andreas [1] Why? That's a quite

[gentoo-dev] base-system team meeting 15/May 19:00 utc, #gentoo-base

2022-05-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, we'll do a base-system team meeting 15/May 19:00 utc, on #gentoo-base. There will be only one agenda item, lead election (since I'm stepping down as base lead and will not seek re-election). Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > I wouldn't block anyone from doing this, but it's not something I'm > > personally interested in pursuing. I see very little value here. > > First, you're trying to justify replacing repoman on an entirely subjective > opinion of "I think is superior" ... Well, if you've ever tried it

[gentoo-dev] last rites: net-libs/libnfsidmap

2022-02-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-02-27) # Outdated, fails to build with glibc-2.34, bug 806755 # Has been integrated into net-fs/nfs-utils, please use that instead. # Removal in 30 days. net-libs/libnfsidmap -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 01/12] toolchain.eclass: remove EAPI 5 and 6

2022-02-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Dilfridge had a proposal to ensure 3/6/12 month old systems could still > upgrade, and I'm wondering if this could break those systems. > > There are 3 commits in the last year that finally removed the EAPI 5/6 > toolchain consumers: > 486b77ab8d28c5bfd5a4bdfc5f9a5f432ffde563 >

[gentoo-dev] stable users: sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r10 needs testers

2022-01-27 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2022, 00:11:42 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hey all, > > I just added sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r9 which is a security fix for the 2.33 > series > (and also adds ebuild improvements backported from the 2.34 series). This just became 2.33-r10 - but th

[gentoo-dev] stable users: sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r9 needs testers

2022-01-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, I just added sys-libs/glibc-2.33-r9 which is a security fix for the 2.33 series (and also adds ebuild improvements backported from the 2.34 series). Please, if you're still running glibc-2.33, consider testing it! We want to stabilize it rather soon. Building and normal use...

[gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-devel/prelink, app-crypt/hmaccalc

2022-01-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2022-01-22) # Prelink support is being removed from glibc and was # already somewhat broken for a while... # hmaccalc hard-depends on it (?). # Removal in 30 days. sys-devel/prelink app-crypt/hmaccalc -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Looking for a solution to the distutils/setuptools .egg-info mess

2022-01-11 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > TL;DR: how to deal with setuptools (and newer distutils vendored by > setuptools) replacing .egg-info files with directories? > I should probably emphasize here that the .egg-info path contains > the package version, so this is a problem only if the same upstream > version is being

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] multilib.eclass: add initial defaults for ARCH=loong

2021-12-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Thank you! Pushed. Am Samstag, 25. Dezember 2021, 05:23:41 CET schrieb WANG Xuerui: > From: WANG Xuerui > > There is only full support for the LP64D ABI in the initial upstream > submissions for the various low-level pieces, so full multilib > combinations are not pursued at the moment; but the

[gentoo-dev] last rites: app-emulation/qemu-riscv64-bin

2021-12-19 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
+# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-12-19) +# Outdated and not needed anymore (this was a releng workaround) +# Removal in 30 days, please compile it yourself from app-emulation/qemu +app-emulation/qemu-riscv64-bin + -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Printer drivers and net-print

2021-12-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Maybe consider three new top-level categories?: > - print-drivers > - print-filters > - print-misc Only if you take care of them. printing project is somewhat understaffed. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: several perl-core/*

2021-12-12 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-12-13) # Outdated, all versions in core Perl are newer. Removal in 30 days. perl-core/IO-Zlib perl-core/Module-CoreList perl-core/Test perl-core/Text-Balanced perl-core/Text-ParseWords perl-core/Thread-Semaphore perl-core/Time-HiRes perl-core/version -- Andreas K.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clang/LLVM profile

2021-11-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Honestly, I think this is pretty on-topic for gentoo-dev given a lot of us > are quite interested in this. ^ this > - I'm not sure why you would need virtual/toolchain or virtual/binutils > unless it's just for usage within bootstrapping scripts? Seems more like > you could just remove gcc from

[gentoo-dev] 2021 retrospective

2021-11-19 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hey all, in the spirit of our "2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021!" front page article, https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/01/15/new-year.html which was rather well received, I'd already like to start collecting news from 2021! Suggestions, text snippets, illustrations welcome- either

[gentoo-dev] last rites: several perl-core/*

2021-11-04 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Huettel (2021-11-04) # Unused and outdated packages; the version in core Perl is # newer. Removal in 30 days. perl-core/Module-Metadata perl-core/parent perl-core/podlators perl-core/Pod-Simple perl-core/Sys-Syslog perl-core/Term-ANSIColor -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] Basic upgrade CI testing

2021-11-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I think the obvious easy solution here is to run a CI that is using > older stuff, and report problems when commits break that. Something that's been bouncing around my head: * archive stage3 files somewhere official * run a weekly CI job that attempts to upgrade a N-weeks old stage3 to

Re: [gentoo-dev] You currently cannot smoothly upgrade a 4 months old Gentoo system

2021-11-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 3. November 2021, 22:39:41 CET schrieb Ulrich Mueller: > >>>>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2021, Andreas K Huettel wrote: > > > The mistake was to allow the use of EAPI=8 too early. In the future, > > we should have a new EAPI supported by portage for at leas

Re: [gentoo-dev] You currently cannot smoothly upgrade a 4 months old Gentoo system

2021-11-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 3. November 2021, 16:03:37 CET schrieb Thomas Deutschmann: > Hi, > > it is currently not possible to smoothly run a world upgrade on a 4 > months old system which doesn't even have a complicated package list: > [snip] Yup. We know. It's actually way worse than you describe [*] and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: sys-apps/sandbox/

2021-10-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > PS. > checking whether the C compiler works... * > /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/sandbox-2.25/work/sandbox-2.25/libsandbox/trace.c:_do_ptrace():83: > failure (Function not implemented): > * ISE:_do_ptrace: ptrace(PTRACE_TRACEME, ..., 0x, > 0x): Function not

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: sys-apps/sandbox/

2021-10-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Mike, could you please do this just like everyone else, i.e. file a bug and give arch teams a go? Even if you're on all the arch teams? Even if you know the code best? More eyes do not hurt. (I am absolutely not in the mood right now for hunting down why alpha stage builds now fail.) TIA

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI=5 must go -- final sprint! :)

2021-10-18 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2021, 21:43:40 CEST schrieb Oskari Pirhonen: > On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 08:57:26PM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > So, let's make that number go down further fast! :D Cheers! > > What is the best way to help with that? Should I just grep for "EAPI=5

[gentoo-dev] EAPI=5 must go -- final sprint! :)

2021-10-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
We've reached the number of only 1000 EAPI=5 ebuilds left in the gentoo repository today! So, let's make that number go down further fast! :D Cheers! -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] last rites: virtual/perl-Pod-Parser

2021-10-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-10-16) # Outdated virtual; the respective module was removed # from core Perl with Perl 5.32. Use dev-perl/Pod-Parser # instead. Removal in 30days. virtual/perl-Pod-Parser -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: net-im/webex

2021-10-16 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-10-16) # Binary-only package, cannot be distributed, download # is an unversioned URL which changes content. In brief, # a pain. Unmaintained from now on. If you pick it up, # you'll have to watch it closely. Removal in 30 days # otherwise. Bug 794700. net-im/webex --

[gentoo-dev] last rites: various perl-core/*

2021-10-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Huettel (2021-10-14) # Unused and outdated packages; the version in core Perl is # newer. Removal in 30 days. perl-core/Locale-Maketext-Simple perl-core/Math-BigInt perl-core/Math-Complex perl-core/Memoize perl-core/MIME-Base64 -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/1] glep-0068: Add notes element for package maintenance instructions

2021-10-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > I generally agree that comments are more visible/noticeable than > metadata, however, I also think that this could be a good step forward > for overall maintainability. The issue with documenting these things > in comments is that the comment lives only within the specific version > of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Experimental binary package hosting

2021-09-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Vadim, > Finally it happened! > I already planned to try to ask infra/council about sponsoring few > servers for build farm for "official gentoo binhosts" when I had > enough time, but fortunately, you've already did that. > It's very good news. Thanks! Nice to see that this is appreciated

Re: [gentoo-dev] Experimental binary package hosting

2021-09-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 22. September 2021, 10:20:10 CEST schrieb Torokhov Sergey: > Sorry for previous html message. I tried to recend it as plaintext. > > I have repos configs placed into /etc/portage/repos.conf with > "rsync-type = git" fo all repos so I created binhost.cond file here > instead of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Experimental binary package hosting

2021-09-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> Andreas, > > How is USE=bindist treated? > Its on for stage building and off in profiles. USE=bindist is switched on, and in addition we have ACCEPT_RESTRICT="* -bindist" -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl,

[gentoo-dev] Experimental binary package hosting

2021-09-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
So let's experiment with this... :) announcing: https://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/amd64/binpkg/default/linux/17.1/x86-64/ More information can be found in a blog post, which will also be on planet.g.o soon: https://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2021/09/experimental-binary-gentoo-package.html

Re: [gentoo-dev] Guidance on distributed patented software

2021-09-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag, 20. September 2021, 19:27:37 CEST schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 12:46 PM Alec Warner wrote: > > Could we add some text to the license concepts covering patents? It > > seems to have been omitted? > > Is my understanding of how we manage patented software correct? > >

[gentoo-dev] last rites : toolchain-glibc.eclass

2021-09-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
toolchain-glibc.eclass is long obsolete and not used anymore since glibc-2.26. Last ebuild is gone now, so removing the eclass in 30 days. -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, qa, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-perl/POE-API-Peek

2021-08-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-08-15) # Broken since Perl 5.22, bug 662318. Removal in 30 days. dev-perl/POE-API-Peek -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-perl/MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained dev-perl/MooseX-Types-DateTimeX

2021-08-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-08-15) # Broken-ish, upstream unmaintained, only one un-used revdep. # Removal in 30 days. Bug 623674. dev-perl/MooseX-Types-DateTime-ButMaintained dev-perl/MooseX-Types-DateTimeX -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-perl/Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders

2021-08-15 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-08-15) # Broken for years, see bug 642466. No reverse dependencies, # no easy fix. Removal in 30 days. dev-perl/Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new category for container related packages, instead of app-emulation

2021-08-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Categories themselves were not a design mistake. The design mistake is > using categories to permit conflicting package names. > > Categories are convenient. Sure, they're not perfect but they serve > their purpose to some degree and there's little harm in having them. > If you want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new category for container related packages, instead of app-emulation

2021-08-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 5. August 2021, 23:44:40 CEST schrieb Georgy Yakovlev: > Hi, > > We've been collecting more and more container related packages in > app-emulation/* > > What do you think about finally moving those packages to separate category? > > probably app-containers/ > > Here's the

[gentoo-dev] last rites: various perl-core/*

2021-07-31 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-31) # Obsolete; all versions in current Perl core distributions # are newer, and no virtuals currently pull these packages. # Removal in 30 days. perl-core/ExtUtils-MakeMaker perl-core/ExtUtils-Manifest perl-core/File-Path perl-core/Getopt-Long perl-core/HTTP-Tiny

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing SHA512 hash from Manifests

2021-07-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 24. Juli 2021, 17:16:23 CEST schrieb Michał Górny: > Hi, everyone. > > I've been asked to repost the idea of removing SHA512 hash from > Manifests, effectively limiting them to BLAKE2B. Just keep things as they are for now. Even reading this bike^H^H^H^Hthread is more effort than

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Add deblob support only for python3

2021-07-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> My modest opinion on the topic is: > As far that is free software and there are users that use deblob, I > don't see any reason on why we should not support this and give them > the > choice. Gentoo is about choice. [snip] > deblob is only supported for rt-sources. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Add deblob support only for python3

2021-07-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Gentoo is about choice. if there are users that want to use deblob I > don't see why we don't have to add the option. > Errr how is *removing the firmware loader* about choice? You have all the choice of the world by just not providing any firmware to load. Removing the loader removes

[gentoo-dev] last rites: several perl-core/*

2021-07-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-17) # Obsolete; all versions in current Perl core distributions # are newer, and no virtuals currently pull these packages. # Removal in 30 days. perl-core/Archive-Tar perl-core/CPAN-Meta perl-core/CPAN-Meta-Requirements perl-core/Data-Dumper perl-core/Digest

[gentoo-dev] last rites: virtual/perl-Pod-Parser

2021-07-17 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-07-17) # Obsolete virtual; package was removed from the Perl # core distribution. Please depend on dev-perl/Pod-Parser # instead. Removal in 30 days. virtual/perl-Pod-Parser -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-07-09-systemd-tmpfiles: re-add news item

2021-07-14 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > > > 1) either the severity assignment of this bug by the Security project as B1 > > wrong (i.e. it should have been classified "harmless") > > > > The Gentoo model is not perfect and should be overhauled. However, it > works for most things and sometimes bugs fall between the cracks. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] 2021-07-09-systemd-tmpfiles: re-add news item

2021-07-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> The package was masked due to a miscommunication with the Gentoo > Security project. > > While it is true that the way opentmpfiles is currently implemented > allows for certain races, from the security point of view, you always > have to classify the vulnerability in context of your threat

Re: [gentoo-dev] 'pax_kernel' USE flag

2021-06-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > The PaX community in Gentoo is still big and active. > > > > Many Gentoo users received free access to upstream sources or became > > paying customers. > > > > It's just not available for everyone for free/without registration > > anymore. But it is still a thing in Gentoo. > > Can you

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Florian Schmaus (flow)

2021-06-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Welcome Florian!!! Where in Franconia are you from?! Regensburg here, so just "south beyond the border"... :D (Arcobräu!) Am Dienstag, 22. Juni 2021, 21:27:11 CEST schrieb Gokturk Yuksek: > Hello everyone, > > I'd like to announce with great pleasure our latest addition to the > developer

[gentoo-dev] news item: riscv upgrade to 20.0 profiles

2021-06-19 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Feedback welcome... Title: riscv upgrade to 20.0 profiles Author: Andreas K. Hüttel Posted: 2021-06-25 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 2.0 Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/17.0/rv64gc/lp64d Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/17.0/rv64gc/lp64d/systemd Display-If-Profile:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need help with perl-cleaner (and app-admin/gentoo-perl-helpers)

2021-05-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > https://github.com/gentoo-perl/gentoo-perl-helpers > > I believe infra were the inspiration for it and are the main > consumers. Worth speaking to them? Yes I will... It's not that I dont want to help them, but... -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Need help with perl-cleaner (and app-admin/gentoo-perl-helpers)

2021-05-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 13. Mai 2021, 12:02:32 CEST schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > Hi all, > > due to having somewhat too many Gentoo projects and not enough time > at the moment, I'd like to ask for help with perl-cleaner here. > PS. app-admin/gentoo-perl-helpers also needs a new m

[gentoo-dev] Need help with perl-cleaner

2021-05-13 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi all, due to having somewhat too many Gentoo projects and not enough time at the moment, I'd like to ask for help with perl-cleaner here. It is in most cases not necessary anymore, and I personally have not used it for ages, since the automated rebuilds via subslots make it obsolete.

[gentoo-dev] removal: dev-perl/PortageXS app-portage/demerge app-portage/perl-info

2021-05-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-05-09) # PortageXS saw its last release in 2016 and would need # a new upstream maintainer. Multiple bugs, e.g., # 688238, 625536, 613114, 473394, 332611, 289524, 264680 # Masked for removal in 30 days, including reverse deps. dev-perl/PortageXS app-portage/demerge

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support -- Summary

2021-05-08 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
So, here's what I took away from the thread. Please shout if you disagree. 1) Advertised riscv profiles will all be non-multilib and use /usr/ lib64 (or /usr/lib if we ever get around to riscv32). [A] 2) The standard for keywording and stabilization is rv64gc/lp64d. We keep stages for other

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2021, 22:34:52 CEST schrieb Palmer Dabbelt: > > TBH: I'm not really going to come up with something better beacuse I > came up with the current (and likely broken) scheme and I still > don't fully understand why. So if you have suggestions as to > something that would

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I'm fine with rust masked in lp64/other profile.. > but in my opinion: it's really up to upstream should fix/support it > > > (Unless Palmer et al come up with a fix for the libdirs on the > > upstream side of things. Already e.g. libdir=lib64-lp64d would be > > much easier to handle I

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-07 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > 1) We stop caring about anything except rv64gc/lp64d. > > People can still bootstrap other stuff with crossdev etc, but the > > Gentoo tree and the riscv keyword reflect that things work with > > above -mabi and -march settings. > > fine by me, for current software/upstream state, it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Haven't I told you using two-level libdirs is stupid? So yes, > please do that and let us be happy once again. > > That said, where does lp64gc land? Or isnon-multilib > one-or-the-other the goal? It would be non-multilib one-or-the-other then for us. The main relevant combination is

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > -mabi=rv64gc -march=lp64d should be -march=rv64gc -mabi=lp64d > libdir = lib64/lp64d > ("hardfloat") > > -mabi=rv64imac -march=lp64 should be -march=rv64imac -mabi=lp64 > libdir = lib64/lp64 > ("softfloat") > (but that doesnt change the rest of the argument) -- Andreas K.

[gentoo-dev] How to structure our RISC-V support

2021-05-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Howdy. I'm sending this not only to the team members on the alias, but also to the whole dev list for discussion. So far I've been trying to support in Gentoo the full risc-v multilib directory structure and the ABI sets supported by glibc. According to specs this means for riscv64

Re: [gentoo-dev] [News item review] Exim >=4.94 transports: tainted not permitted

2021-05-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Sonntag, 2. Mai 2021, 11:56:34 CEST schrieb Fabian Groffen: > Title: Exim >=4.94 disallows tainted variables in transport > configurations Author: Fabian Groffen > Posted: 2021-05-?? > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > Display-If-Installed: mail-mta/exim > > Since the release of

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-perl/Sane

2021-04-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-04-30) # Superceded by dev-perl/Image-Sane. Tests hang, bug 626594 # Removal in 30 days. dev-perl/Sane -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

[gentoo-dev] last rites: some outdated perl-core/*

2021-04-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-04-30) # Outdated, not pulled in by any virtuals anymore, no # keywords. Removal in 30 days. perl-core/Devel-PPPort perl-core/Time-Local perl-core/Unicode-Normalize -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl,

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-perl/HTTPD-User-Manage

2021-04-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-04-25) # Broken, bug 616986; removal in 30 days dev-perl/HTTPD-User-Manage -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-perl/Text-Unaccent

2021-04-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
# Andreas K. Hüttel (2021-04-25) # Broken, bug 663274; removal in 30 days dev-perl/Text-Unaccent -- Andreas K. Hüttel dilfri...@gentoo.org Gentoo Linux developer (council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone configuration - why copying, not symlinking /etc/localtime ?

2021-03-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > Council decided years ago that we don't support separate /usr without > > an initramfs, but we haven't completed that transition yet. > > Which doesn't imply that we deliberately break things. That's right. Though we should at some point start thinking about an end of support for separate

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