Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 10:52:43PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: I wonder ... can we have one precise mission statement without alienating a big part of our user base? To copy another opensource group's mission statement, Total World Domination Hey, it's been working for them so far,

Re: [gentoo-dev] X.Org 7.0 Release

2006-01-03 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 01:56:03PM +0530, Shyam Mani wrote: [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/modular-x-howto.xml You mean: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml right? thanks, greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-04 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:58:57AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:17:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, Chris Gianelloni wrote: Gentoo is not a distribution of Linux. Gentoo is not anything more than a loosely bound group of developers all doing their own thing in a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-05 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:56:30AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote: You guys are more than welcome to go apply at Red Hat or Novell. Some of us already work for companies that produce other Linux distributions or support the companies that do. :) thanks, greg k-h -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-05 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 04:31:30AM +, Kurt Lieber wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 07:57:06PM -0800 or thereabouts, Greg KH wrote: Which is why Gentoo has jumped the shark and is now on a long, slow decline. Ok, then what should Gentoo do to fix this percieved decline? Exactly

Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-12 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:41:41PM +0100, Jan Kundr?t wrote: Greg KH wrote: And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free. Do you want to have this kernel documented in our Kernel guide [1]? [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml#doc_chap3 That would be great

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing ide discs mapping is udev's fault?

2006-02-21 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:31:12AM +0100, Christian Bricart wrote: Hi, yesterday I've noticed, that some mappings in /dev/discs are missing on my machine. Actually I have an additional ATA controller with some discs attached. So I have /dev/hda through /dev/hdl which are ok. But the

Re: [gentoo-dev] missing ide discs mapping is udev's fault?

2006-02-21 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 08:50:07PM +0100, Christian Bricart wrote: Richard Fish wrote: On 2/21/06, Christian Bricart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So I have /dev/hda through /dev/hdl which are ok. But the mappings to /dev/discs/discX with X 7 are missing. snip I wanted to file a bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X: unmasking tonight, RFC

2006-03-22 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 08:20:01PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 19:59, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Olivier Crete wrote: If modular X is used and gnome-base/control-center is not patched.. gnome-settings-daemon on some evdev

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlay support current proposal?

2006-03-26 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 07:57:43PM -0500, Aron Griffis wrote: Fernando J. Pereda wrote: [Sat Mar 25 2006, 06:18:52PM EST] Well, I find it easier to understand than many other DVCSs out there... In fact I don't think it is difficult to use in any way. Maybe pre-1.1 versions had some syntax

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:52:38PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 07 April 2006 19:39, Roy Marples wrote: ... some just want a generic Gentoo business card and the ones we had were great, but when you get into real conversations, the guy wants to follow up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union

2006-04-29 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:00:10PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Alexandre Buisse wrote: The opensolaris project has done a similar thing[1]. The three finalists were bazaar[2], mercurial[3] and git[4], and the winner was eventually mercurial. This is also the recommended choice from the

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-03 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:22:39PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 12:26, Jakub Moc wrote: Well, it should not be loaded first of all... Hence why I want to have an ability to turn off the coldplug thing *completely* on udev level. So maybe I should be clear in conf.d/rc

Re: [gentoo-dev] coldplug and hotplug

2006-05-04 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:54:53AM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 19:27, Greg KH wrote: On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:22:39PM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 12:26, Jakub Moc wrote: Well, it should not be loaded first of all... Hence why I want to have

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since people using it will save _lots_ of bandwidth and disk space. Yes, I'll convert it over once you feel it is ready, just let me know. thanks, greg k-h --

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:18:05PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:08:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since people using it will save

Re: [gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

2006-06-06 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:05:00AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: The udev/nss_ldap thing has been brewing for a while, and we're still trying to get upstream udev to fix the issue. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99564#c44 In that comment I list the proper solution that upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] SATA disk slower as /dev/sda then as in /dev/hda

2006-06-07 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 10:07:07PM +0200, Mivz wrote: Why is it that when I use the new kernel SATA drivers and load is as /dev/sda it is slower as with the old IDE drivers? You didn't tell us which sata drivers you were using, nor what kernel version. Either way, try asking this on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.17 kernel stabilisation plan

2006-06-23 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:43:49AM +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Greg KH wrote: Have a link for this patch? Sorry, I forgot to give it in my original posting: http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/bugme-new/2006-June/006422.html That bug does not include a patch that has been accepted

Re: [gentoo-dev] GPL and Source code providing

2006-06-28 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 04:28:42PM +0200, Mivz wrote: How free is free software if you need a lawyer and a expensive server just to be able to publish your addition under your own name? *plonk* -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 10:57:14AM -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote: Well, we don't yet have reliable software in place to _count_ votes, but that's no reason not to start collecting them. The polls are now open, and will remain so until UTC 20060911 (one month). To vote, log into dev.g.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council polls now open

2006-08-10 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 08:00:25PM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:42:47 -0700 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the current election name that we should use when running votify? To vote, log into dev.g.o and type votify --help for instructions. Doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] cdrtools license issues

2006-09-01 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 06:13:51PM -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: Carsten Lohrke wrote: Imho we have to remove the partly and incompatible relicensed cdrtools-2.01.01 alpha ebuilds from the tree. I completely agree. In fact, Fedora Development also had to revert this change due to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev-ng? (Was: Summary Council meeting Tuesday 13 November 2012)

2012-11-23 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:20:28PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz wrote: The key misunderstanding here seems to be that initiation of a Gentoo project means that the council explicitly supports it, because in most distributions there is no choice available to end users at this level of detail.

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 01:13:38PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Fernando Reyes likew...@weboperative.com wrote: I don't know the details of the issue but I know that I was prevented from using grub on the livedvd. Well, if some perceived legal constraint is

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:46:59PM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Fernando Reyes schrieb: That's what meant since we use isolinux on the release media and until syslinux-6 we are forced to use another bootloader and grub seems out of the questions because of licensing issues.

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 01:35:57PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: The FSF has already said that using Grub2 and the GPLv3 is just fine with the UEFI method of booting, so there is no problem from that side. There's a statement

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 01:24:53AM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, sorry. You will have to disable it in order to boot a Gentoo image, which is fine, but there's no reason why

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 07:52:16PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 09/12/2012 19:59, Greg KH wrote: The UEFI spec does not allow that mode of operation in secure boot mode, sorry. You will have to disable

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 08:08:01PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 10/12/2012 01:52, Rich Freeman wrote: The shim might work, but I'd hardly call it secure boot if every motherboard manufacturer and OEM in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-09 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:21:29AM +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Greg KH schrieb: No, all we need is to enable EFI stub support in the kernel, and integrate the initramfs using CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE and place it in some location where UEFI looks for it (/efi/boot/bootx64.efi

Re: [gentoo-dev] borked release media

2012-12-10 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:31:25AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 06:37:56PM -0800, Greg KH wrote Not necessarily, as I'm finding out with real hardware. My only options on the box I have is to either zero out all keys, or specifically tell the BIOS what binary to run

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012

2012-12-14 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: Handling separate /usr support == After the discussion on [1] during the previous meeting, a delay of one month due to a new fork of udev was requested. We need an update on what's happened.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012

2012-12-14 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:05:27PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/12/12 01:28 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: Handling separate /usr support == After the discussion on [1] during the previous meeting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012

2012-12-14 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:28:00PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 02:05:27PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/12/12 01:28 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:43:41AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012

2012-12-14 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 09:00:56PM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Greg, can you write back to this message with specific examples of what would need to be customized so that separate /usr would work right without an initramfs? I have tried to explain multiple times that this is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [e]udev , and please let's move this to a better location (was: Summary Council meeting: Tuesday 11 December 2012)

2012-12-14 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 04:09:34PM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 14/12/12 03:02 PM, Greg KH wrote: I'm guessing that the result of the council meeting meant that things are progressing, right? If so, in what way? Sounds like you should join us in #gentoo-udev to discuss, or join

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-17 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:07:59AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Announcing once to -dev-announce due to the general importance of this topic to the community, but ALL replies should go to -nfp, or to trustees@ if you must, or to /dev/null if you shouldn't. Before I start, yes, the trustees

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-17 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: As I said in an earlier email, Lennart Poettering claims that it does not work. We are discussing some of the things necessary to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 08:21:36AM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Mon, December 17, 2012 22:31, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: As I said

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-20 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:32:25AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On a personal note, if any copyright assignment was in place, I would never have been able to become a Gentoo developer, and if it were to be put into place, I do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-21 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:17:59PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: For further messages in this thread, please keep: Reply-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-...@lists.gentoo.org On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 08:08:45PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:32:25AM +, Robin H

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-21 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:01:00AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:32:25AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. Are you party to any *copyright assignment* (eg FSF copyright assignment)? You need

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-15 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 08:58:59AM -0500, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: On 15/01/13 04:16 AM, Michael Weber wrote: Hi, This can have serious security implications [1] For whom? I think the idea there is that a user expects eth0 and eth1 to stay the same, writes iptables rules on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-16 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 06:36:59AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: Not that anybody is taking requests, but it would be really handy if serial ports were deterministically labeled. Does /dev/serial/*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper installation path for efi binaries (.efi)

2013-02-04 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:13:58PM +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote: Hi I am curious what is the proper path for installation of efi binaries (such as shim.efi) in gentoo. I don't think that installing them directly into /boot/efi... is proper way - it seems to me that /usr/lib64/efi or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper installation path for efi binaries (.efi)

2013-02-04 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 11:45:22PM +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote: On 4.2.2013 23:34, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:13:58PM +0100, Martin Pluskal wrote: Hi I am curious what is the proper path for installation of efi binaries (such as shim.efi) in gentoo. I don't think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-20 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:03:47AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 20/02/2013 13:02, Rich Freeman wrote: I'm actually wondering if that makes sense with git when a specific commit is referenced, since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-20 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:25:14PM +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: Greg KH wrote: If there really are firmware blobs that are only available via git and which cannot be redistributed we might consider whether it makes sense to not support them entirely, or to force them to be masked. Did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-21 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:51:15PM +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 20/02/2013 19:43, Greg KH wrote: Really? What firmware files are that way, I just did a quick scan through the upstream linux-firmware.git tree and didn't see anything that would prevent Gentoo from doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 07:33:48PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Greg KH wrote: Ulrich Mueller (ulm) wrote this on the 16th: Look into the WHENCE file and be horrified. Taking just the first ten items (of a total 114): Unknown license (3 times

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: linux-firmware

2013-02-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 09:44:12PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Greg KH wrote: Has anyone asked the upstream linux-firmware developers about these files? I don't know. I haven't, for my part. But maybe we should first try to produce a more complete list, instead

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-wanted: x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers

2013-03-05 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 02:01:31AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 03:44:33PM -0100, Carlos Silva wrote On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I'm not a C programmer, let alone a developer, so this may be a stupid question, but here

[gentoo-dev] Re: Forming Gentoo Policy - Copyright Assignment and Attribution

2013-03-11 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:51:17PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: If you have any concerns/objections to the policy which was outlined, which includes a mandatory requirement to sign a contributor license agreement and an option to also sign an assignment-like document based on the FSFe FLA,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Forming Gentoo Policy - Copyright Assignment and Attribution

2013-03-11 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 07:12:43PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: No change intended. This is what happens when you send a thirty second follow-up to a policy formed over two weeks, and then step away to eat... So,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: devmanual moved to github

2013-05-13 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:12:19AM +0200, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 12/05/13 20:24, Peter Stuge wrote: [GitHub] enforces some particular workflow You keep saying this. What do you mean? A lot of projects (including Linux) just use GitHub for hosting and nothing else. I don't see the

Re: [gentoo-dev] evar_push/pop helpers

2013-06-17 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 01:46:02AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: here's v2 These changes look good to me, and quite useful, thanks for doing this work. greg k-h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations

2013-06-19 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 06:35:49PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: For me, this problem is critical. Devrel is working on formalizing a new policy, and we will announce news on this soon. In the meantime, to prevent further escalations, I will use my lead powers to request immediate bans

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 04:41:49PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: This problem is not only visible for patches, but also in the config. Meet CONFIG_DEVTMPFS; forget to enable it, greet a failing boot. We're telling users to enable it in some places, in the handbook it's a single line you must

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:45:16PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: Q: What about my stable server? I really don't want to run this stuff! A: These options would depend on !CONFIG_VANILLA or CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL What is CONFIG_VANILLA? I don't see that in the upstream kernel tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:30:51PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: Tom, you already know my opinion because we discussed it. I'm all for it. Just a reminder: there's always problems somewhere in the kernel which can be triggered by various options. The kernel is not one big take it or leave

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:25:42PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 14:09:57 -0500 Matthew Summers quantumsumm...@gentoo.org wrote: If the patchset patches the kernel's core, it doesn't matter what CONFIG_* option is set the core kernel code _has_now_been_changed_. This is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 05:17:07PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 07/01/2013 03:23 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:45:16PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: Q: What about my stable server? I really don't want to run this stuff! A: These options would depend on !CONFIG_VANILLA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-01 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 09:36:21PM -0400, Richard Yao wrote: On 07/01/2013 03:23 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 08:45:16PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: Q: What about my stable server? I really don't want to run this stuff! A: These options would depend on !CONFIG_VANILLA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-kernel] Proper distribution integration of kernel *-sources, patches and configuration.

2013-07-02 Thread Greg KH
Almost all of this portion of the thread is off-topic for gentoo-dev, so I'll leave it alone, and will be more than willing to take it up somewhere else it is on-topic for, like linux-kernel, if you want to. But, there is one thing I do want to ask/comment on, as it is relevant to users of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-24 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 04:40:38PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Also, not all fixes are equal. The ones that are the biggest concern are security fixes. How do you _know_ which fixes are security fixes? If you tell me that the kernel has a new exploit 2x/week then I'll start to wonder when

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: Kernel Team vanilla-sources policy

2013-08-04 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 12:53:35AM -0400, Mike Pagano wrote: All, Here is the vanilla-sources non stablizing policy news item. If all goes well, this will be committed to the tree on 08/07 UTC. Thanks for writing this all up, much appreciated. greg k-h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-07 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 11:37:21AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:09:11 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: Please tell me exactly how you are going to evaluate which fixes I make are security fixes, and you know which to pick and choose from. Some kind

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-07 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:50:32AM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: Greg KH wrote: See above for why it is not easy at all, and, why even if we do know some fixes are security ones, we would not tag them as such anyway. I think this supports the argument that the better kernel is always the one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 04:43:09AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:19:43 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 12:50:32AM +0200, Peter Stuge wrote: Greg KH wrote: See above for why it is not easy at all, and, why even if we do know some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 04:37:32AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:44:34 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 11:37:21AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: Some kind of annotation with tags would make this kind of thing easy; I'm not saying it is your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

2013-08-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 09:40:00PM +0100, Mike Auty wrote: On 08/08/13 11:38, Samuli Suominen wrote: i'm not volunteering but I never really got why our GNOME maintainers insisted on staying with it instead of going with the distribution after it was clear logind is a dead end on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-09 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:28:54PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 06:38:56 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: My sense is that Greg is using the term security bugs to refer to implementation errors that could be exploited to obtain unintended access to a system.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-09 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 10:34:58AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 15:32:45 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 04:37:32AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:44:34 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: I am not going

Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-08-09 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 09:46:43PM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:30:42 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: ... Just read the commits to find out what is resolved, ... ... Because it's extra work that is pointless. ... No classification is done

[gentoo-dev] stupid ebuild question

2009-04-21 Thread Greg KH
Ok, I know I'm doing something stupid here, but I can't figure it out. I have a new ebuild (linux-firmware) that is really just a tarball that needs to be placed somewhere in the filesystem. So, I do the following: src_install() { dodir /lib/firmware cp -R

Re: [gentoo-dev] stupid ebuild question

2009-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 06:47:40PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:39:38 -0700 Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote: cp -R ${S}/* ${D}lib/firmware/ || die Install failed! } That should be ${S}/* . If you quote the *, bash won't glob it. `/var/tmp/portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-29 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:36:34AM -0500, Vincent Launchbury wrote: 1) Not all of the licenses are completely accurate. For example, the Linux kernels are listed as soley GPL-2, yet they contain blobs of non-free firmware. The fact that some people claim that the firmware blobs somehow violate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-29 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 08:16:22PM -0500, Richard Freeman wrote: On 12/28/2009 05:53 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: You're wrong there. The kernel does contain additional licenses, and EXPLICITLY mentions them. Go and read 'firmware/WHENCE'. The licenses listed therein range from use-permitted

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-30 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Vincent Launchbury wrote: Greg KH wrote: The fact that some people claim that the firmware blobs somehow violate the GPLv2 license of the kernel is a claim, not a fact, so please do not state it as such. Hi Greg, Thanks for your reply. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2009-12-30 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 06:43:47AM -0500, Richard Freeman wrote: On 12/29/2009 07:52 PM, Greg KH wrote: No, the readme/copying is correct, it covers all of the code that runs on the processor as one body of work. Firmware blobs are different in that they do not run in the same processor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2010-01-06 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 11:55:49PM -0500, Vincent Launchbury wrote: Greg KH wrote: And note, _I_ placed those images in the kernel image, after consulting lawyers about this issue, so it's not like I don't know what I am talking about here. I'm not questioning whether it's legal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Non-free software in Gentoo

2010-01-07 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 01:19:24AM -0500, Vincent Launchbury wrote: Greg KH wrote: Also note that the license of the firmware files do not matter to almost everyone using the kernel, as almost no one uses those files anymore, the ones in the linux-firmware package should be used instead

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-util/stgit: ChangeLog stgit-0.14.ebuild

2008-02-13 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 06:05:01PM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: src_install() { sed -i -e 's-\(prefix:\) ~-\1 /usr-' setup.cfg distutils_src_install dodir /usr/share/doc/${PF} mv ${D}/usr/share/${PN}/examples

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-util/stgit: ChangeLog stgit-0.14.ebuild

2008-02-14 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 06:45:42PM +0100, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey, I just bumped the ebuild, I didn't write the first one :) No accuses, just review. :) Touch it and you are responsible. So, what would be the correct fix here? Something like

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-apps/moreutils: moreutils-0.29.ebuild ChangeLog Manifest

2008-05-10 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 09:50:24AM +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Added:moreutils-0.29.ebuild ChangeLog Manifest Log: initial ebuild for the moreutils package src_unpack() { unpack ${A} cd

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/bti: bti-007.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml Manifest

2008-10-26 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 01:36:29PM -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:22:26PM +, Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) wrote: # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/bti: bti-007.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml Manifest

2008-10-26 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:17:14PM +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote: Greg KH schrieb: src_install() { doman bti.1 dobin bti dodoc bti.example README RELEASE-NOTES } You really should have some or all of these functions die on failure. Why would any of these fail

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/bti: bti-007.ebuild ChangeLog metadata.xml Manifest

2008-10-26 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 06:29:13PM -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:58:02PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 01:36:29PM -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:22:26PM +, Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) wrote: src_install

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 36: providing both CVS and Subversion?

2005-04-10 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 10:30:29PM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: A while back, we had to move the gentoo kernel patches out of the Gentoo CVS because we realised it conflicted with the old copyright assignment form: I have signed an agreement saying that everything I put in gentoo cvs will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Video4Linux and linux headers

2005-04-19 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:57:29PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: On Monday 18 April 2005 20:27, Mike Frysinger wrote: if by commit you mean the profiles then i think you should go make a list of specific USE flags and drop it onto the gentoo-dev list before committing :p:p -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] ieee1394 useflag

2005-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 11:16:23PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote: There are currently 6 (7 after I'll commit new ffmpeg) ieee1394 use.local flags. I think this is worth moving it as a global useflag. Someone disagrees? Why is it a useflag at all? Does this mean I can create a new

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.11-gentoo-r7: If USB core API (usbcore) is built-in, it conflicts with the rest of usb-dependent modules

2005-05-11 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:10:46PM +0200, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: Hi, After some talk to gregkh, I've decided to send this message as it might give some light regarding the breakage of the USB modules when usbcore is built-in instead of compiled as module. Modules that are

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.11-gentoo-r7: If USB core API (usbcore) is built-in, it conflicts with the rest of usb-dependent modules

2005-05-11 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 11:27:42PM +0200, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: El mi?, 11-05-2005 a las 13:12 -0700, Greg KH escribi?: On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 09:10:46PM +0200, Lorenzo Hernandez Garcia-Hierro wrote: Hi, After some talk to gregkh, I've decided to send this message

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-06 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:55:50PM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: I'd like Gentoo to be a place where neat things are developed. If RH or SuSE (or another for-profit Linux vendor) wants to take some of those developments and use them to make a profit, that's fine with me. We're over here having

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-06 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 12:06:04AM +0100, Roy Marples wrote: This has absolutely zero to do with udev, but the point is that devfs vs udev flames cannot be ignored until non udev supported kernels from all arches are removed from the tree. It also has nothing to do with the naming scheme we

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-07 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 03:55:45PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrote: Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we currently are living with[2

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-07 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:52:20PM +0100, John Mylchreest wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrote: If we can move away from some of our devfs-like names, we stand to reclaim a lot of memory from everyone's machines. As an example, if we drop all of the tty/pts/vc/vcc

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 10:18:12AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrote: To start with, the 061 version of udev offers a big memory savings if you use the default kernel name of a device[3]. If you do that, it does not create a file in its

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:49:34PM +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: On Thursday 07 July 2005 00:46, Greg KH wrote: Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we currently are living with[2

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