Re: [gentoo-dev] Vanilla sources stabilization policy change

2013-07-24 Thread Markos Chandras
rich choice of high quality kernel trees Gentoo > Linux must apply, write and test several kernel patches to the official > upstream releases before they can offer finished ebuilds to the users. > This is where the Gentoo Kernel project comes into play." > > -- > With kind regards, > > Tom Wijsman (TomWij) > Gentoo Developer > > E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org > GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D > GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D This thread derailed as usual. The kernel team made a decision. We can simply accept it and move on. Stable keywords imply at least a minimal build and runtime testing by arch teams. Since we have no manpower to do it, then stabilizing them blindly is not appropriate. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-03 Thread Markos Chandras
On Aug 3, 2013 10:06 AM, "Donnie Berkholz" wrote: > > On 15:36 Fri 02 Aug , William Hubbs wrote: > > All, > > > > This message is an announcement and a reminder. > > > > OpenRc-0.12 will be introduced to the portage tree in the next few days. > > > > If you are using ~arch OpenRc, the standard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=tree;f=sets;h=0e7389b34215915696d99fdb19e03c6d5ce1902f;hb=HEAD >>> >>> All the sets I've had a look at are a list of package atoms. >>> >>> No python code involved. None of your conspiracy theories supported. >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
cifications, grouped together > and given a name for convenience". > > -- > Ciaran McCreesh My understanding is that the cvs tree should be PMS compatible and since 'sets' are not part of PMS that means that it would be wise not to use them yet. It is unfortunate that nobody seems to have realized that all these years that 2.2.X was masked :-/ -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
opics, so please take your > personal quarrels elsewhere. > > Ulrich > Last warning for both hasufell and Ciaran. Keep the discussion on acceptable technical and polite levels or go away -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-14 Thread Markos Chandras
something that is not part of PMS, is not a PMS problem. So unless it becomes part of PMS, it can't be used in places where you expect PMS compliance. If you want PMS to go away, and call portage the one-and-true PM for Gentoo, then it's probably something for the Council to decide. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets in the tree

2013-08-15 Thread Markos Chandras
On 15 August 2013 00:42, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 08/15/2013 04:21 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 14 August 2013 21:17, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, hasufell wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> And their lack of time (

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-16 Thread Markos Chandras
ad to manually add it back, > using a syntax I found on the wiki site. > > The package is now masked (openrc-0.12) because quite a few people lost their net configs So yep, ~arch being *this* broken is not so nice -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer features in portage: cgroup, network-sandbox, ipc-sandbox

2013-08-20 Thread Markos Chandras
nly and require fancy kernel features. > > Awesome! Thanks a lot! -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

[gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Markos Chandras
also help developers get rid of old ebuilds and keep the portage tree healthy and reasonably updated. If I get enough positive feedback on this, I will propose this in the next Council's agenda. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Markos Chandras
eople testing this as part of their regular testing can only improve the user experience in the end. For such arches, my personal opinion is that most people have been running ~arch all along because stable was lagging so far behind. >> > Or no serious negative feedback. I don't think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 21 August 2013 16:32, Matt Turner wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It's time of year again to consider moving a few arches to dev-only status. >> >> I propose the following arches to lose their stable k

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Markos Chandras
ou are talking about keywords > only, right ? Do these arches keep their stable mark in profiles.desc? > I am not familiar with portage internals to understand what implications will an ~arch only architecture have if marked as stable. Is there a good reason for that? -- Regar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 21 August 2013 20:10, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:03:30 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> On 21 August 2013 19:28, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> > >> > Instead of dropping them entirely to ~arch, maybe something in >> > between could

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 01:19, Matt Turner wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Markos Chandras >>> wrote: >>>> Is there an alternative? afaik a profi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
On 22 August 2013 12:24, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 22 August 2013 11:01, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> I think the result of a policy like this would be that stable keywords >>> would get dropped on most peri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving more arches to dev profiles

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
ages, like I've been doing on sparc, ppc and arm.) > This is yet to be decided. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/gnote: gnote-3.8.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2013-08-22 Thread Markos Chandras
rrect. Your ChangeLogs have no name and the email address looks a bit weird. I presume the correct one should be jbarto...@gentoo.org Please read this http://devmanual.gentoo.org/tools-reference/echangelog/index.html -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-08-25 23h59 UTC

2013-08-27 Thread Markos Chandras
T. That's why I fixed my script now. > > -- > Robin Hugh Johnson > Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead > E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org > GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 > I believe we discussed this here https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=473946 -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-r3: initial draft for review

2013-08-30 Thread Markos Chandras
o I was wondering if that's the only reason. If yes, then maybe this needs to be solved in PM scope instead? As in, prevent portage from inheriting the same eclass twice instead of handling this case in the eclass itself. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies

2013-09-01 Thread Markos Chandras
o find all the "good" people out there and bring them on board. The individual projects/team need to do that for us. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: final version of git-r3 (+ compat for git-2)

2013-09-03 Thread Markos Chandras
ng the git-r3 eclass without touching the existing git-r2 compatible ebuilds? And why do you want to do that in the first place? If the maintainer is happy with how git-r2 works with his ebuilds I see no reason to allow users to silently override that eclass. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: final version of git-r3 (+ compat for git-2)

2013-09-03 Thread Markos Chandras
On 3 September 2013 12:17, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-03, o godz. 11:53:22 > Markos Chandras napisał(a): > >> On 3 September 2013 11:45, Michał Górny wrote: >> > Hello, all. >> > >> > >> > I'm attaching git-r3.eclass and a pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] About perl-5.18 unmasking

2013-09-08 Thread Markos Chandras
nk raising this issue to the mailing list is appropriate as a first step. Did you try to talk to him? If you feel he violated the perl@ team policies please consider following the QA policy for such violations https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0048.html -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 483274] app-text/poppler-0.22.5 Please stabilize

2013-09-16 Thread Markos Chandras
been through that before http://gentoo.2317880.n4.nabble.com/Response-to-a-quot-friendly-note-quot-about-changing-bug-reports-td266749.html How about we continue on that thread (or re-read it) -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-23 Thread Markos Chandras
.desc and arch/~arch are orthogonal. > Yes in practice they are orthogonal. One could argue that all profiles should be marked 'stable' in order to improve the overall dependency coverage and stability because, lets face it, very few devs run repoman -d. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-23 Thread Markos Chandras
without -d) but without stable > keywords. > > Alexis. > I believe the 'exp' profile makes no sense. It might did in the past, but I believe we are fine having only 'stable' and 'dev'. So unless I am missing something obvious, 'dev' can be us

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-firmware/amd-ucode

2013-09-23 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 # Markos Chandras (23 Sep 2013) # dead upstream. The microcode is now in the latest # sys-kernel/linux-firmware. Bug #455208 # Removal in 30 days. sys-firmware/amd-ucode - -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-23 Thread Markos Chandras
versions get removed. > I agree. There is absolutely *no* reason to drop the keywords on existing packages and cause massive downgrades/upgrades for people (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which is a worrying argument on its own) -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: >> (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits >> which is a worrying argument on its own) > > 11:16 #gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: > Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the maintainer > or the dev who requested stabilization. > That is definitely not true. We always trained Arch Testers to test reverse dependencies as well. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] stabilizing libraries without testing reverse deps

2013-09-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 09/30/2013 11:44 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/30/2013 09:22 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 09/29/2013 10:41 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> Arch teams do not test them, so this is the business of the >>> maintainer or the dev who requested stabilization. >>> &

Re: [gentoo-dev] about inactive project members/leaders

2013-10-15 Thread Markos Chandras
or us) What's is this thread for? - -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJSXaVwXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi

Re: [gentoo-dev] about inactive project members/leaders

2013-10-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/15/2013 09:40 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 10/15/2013 10:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 10/15/2013 09:16 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> I wonder if undertakers should also check for inactive project >>> leaders/membe

Re: [gentoo-dev] about inactive project members/leaders

2013-10-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/15/2013 09:53 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 10/15/2013 10:46 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 10/15/2013 09:40 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> On 10/15/2013 10:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>> On 10/15/2013 09:16 PM, has

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-19 Thread Markos Chandras
] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
pt is there just for convenience. You shouldn't take it too seriously and go filing bugs like crazy. The affected packages can slowly be fixed. It's not like they are totally broken but it's more like of another way to tell you that a few QA problems exist and that it would be nice

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
rkaround broken deps, well, then you get what you deserve. I was mostly referring to whitespaces, too long descriptions and other non-fatal warnings that a few devs may ignore. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
d join efforts than having yet-another-shiny overlay. -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: >>>> * not related to the games team * no review whatsoever from any >>>> dev on ebuilds that get pushed there >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib-minimal.eclass: change in behavior

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 02:45 PM, hasufell wrote: > - gpg control packet > After doing some tests we will probably apply this patch from bug 483304. "probably"? Then this does not belong to the announcement list if no final decisions have been made yet -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
asterisk-moh-opsound net-misc/asterisk-rate_engine net-misc/asterisk-spandsp_codec_g726 net-misc/asterisk net-misc/astmanproxy net-misc/dahdi-tools net-misc/dahdi net-misc/libss7 net-misc/openr2 net-misc/sipsak The rest will end up maintainer-needed, so first comes first served :) -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 03:31 PM, hasufell wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 04:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>> On 10/20/2013 01:26 PM, Мисбах-Соловьёв Вадим wrote: >>>>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
m not sure why you even open that thread. Your e-mail basically requests the games@ team opinion. Again, if you didn't want others to comment on this, you shouldn't have CC'd gentoo-dev. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-20 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/20/2013 05:04 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM, hasufell wrote: >> On 10/20/2013 05:26 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 10/20/2013 04:22 PM, hasufell wrote: >>>> On 10/20/2013 04:40 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>>>> On 1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [Bug 488318] media-video/mpv[luajit] - Keyword request on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, sparc

2013-10-21 Thread Markos Chandras
On 10/21/2013 02:32 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:41:02 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> No I never meant broken depgraphs. Well for broken deps, repoman does >> not let you commit. If you use --force to workaround broken deps, >> well, th

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Markos Chandras
further. People can form their own opinions on the subject. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] official games repository

2013-10-22 Thread Markos Chandras
to be against of gamerlay. We have > got this, thanks. > Again, lets stop here please. I think we proved that the Gentoo dev community as a whole is not hostile to user community overlays/projects. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-arch/xarchiver

2013-11-02 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 # Markos Chandras (02 Nov 2013) # On behalf of Treecleaners # Upstream started a complete rewrite of the package # meaning that existing bugs will not be fixed by future # version bumps of the existing code. # It is unclear when/if the new code

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-arch/xarchiver

2013-11-02 Thread Markos Chandras
from scratch. 2) It has no maintainer. 3) It has open bugs and upstream will never fix them and there is no maintainer to patch the code to fix it properly. So per treecleaner policy the package will be removed. Or have you just volunteered to become maintainer and fix the bugs? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-arch/xarchiver

2013-11-02 Thread Markos Chandras
On 11/02/2013 07:12 PM, yac wrote: > On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 17:57:34 + > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> On 11/02/2013 05:55 PM, yac wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't think that upstream deciding to rewrite a package is good >>> enough reason t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: support the Dev team with system resources

2013-11-07 Thread Markos Chandras
ey have a cluster/big box for this purpose but they just didn't have the time to deploy it properly or something. Not everyone can afford paid solutions when it comes to contributing to free software -- Regards, Markos Chandras

[gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2013-11-08 Thread Markos Chandras
with proxy-maintainers to bring this package up to date. https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=net-analyzer%2Fnagios -- Regards, Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/proj/en/bug-cleaners: index.xml

2013-11-16 Thread Markos Chandras
projects to be in the Wiki so I don't think that you are supposed to add a proj/en page anymore just so you can redirect it to the Wiki -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2013-11-23 Thread Markos Chandras
verything :( > (picking up a random e-mail from the thread) 2 weeks later and the number bugs is pretty much the same. I suggest whoever is interested in helping out to add himself to metadata given no coordination has happened so far. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Markos Chandras
with pambase >> and pam_ssh >> >> Thanks for the info :) >> >> > So I guess it's time to call for maintainers or we should consider merging this herd with another one (base?) to avoid unattended bugs for a long time. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
ed while cronie forked it > fixing some bugs :/ > > What do you think? > > > > If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say, then I agree we should move away from it. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
ather than in the actual sources. I don't think Debian will keel over > and die if it takes a little extra time for the change to go through, > and it beats a ton of broken systems. > > Chris Reffett > > +1 The ebuild can grep the inittab and it if finds an "rc" there, just print a huge warning telling the user to migrate || die. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: renaming "rc" binary in OpenRC

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
see no reason to go through the migration path for users :) The symlink thing can be done immediately. I am wondering, wouldn't Debian be able to rename "rc" to "openrc" in their openrc package just before merging it to the read filesystem (I assume Debian also builds and installs in sandbox first?)? In this case we will not have to touch openrc (or the ebuild) at all. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Markos Chandras
t to > change the default in the install manual to one that is being developed. > Can we please stop this derailed part of this thread? Please do not let Peter render another thread useless. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Commit into profiles fails

2013-12-20 Thread Markos Chandras
nfra side or its the pre- > christmas present, the git migration. > > Greetings > maybe worth opening a bug (assuming there is no one already) or talk to #gentoo-infra? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-28 Thread Markos Chandras
gree with this. I feel that this thread is a sign that there is a problem on how the new QA communicates problems with the developers that cause them. I read the entire thread and I still don't think there is an agreement on who broke the tree and why. Would a private discussion be better before

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/umurmur: metadata.xml ChangeLog

2013-12-28 Thread Markos Chandras
Point. > QA can do trivial fixes. Point. > > None of these two points needs any discussion. > Certainly, but look at the size and contents of this thread and now tell me if what you said is clear to everyone. It certainly isn't to the person who caused the problem so what I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 01/09/2014 08:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 09 December 2013 16:32:09 Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 12/09/2013 02:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> Is p

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Markos Chandras
is case, either a 'parent' herd needs to inherit the packages or simply drop them to maintainer-needed -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2014-01-11 Thread Markos Chandras
yes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ > Fine by me. We will drop the rest to m-n -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Hosting daily gx86 squashfs images and deltas

2014-01-17 Thread Markos Chandras
we could have expected that since we're diffing > a compressed filesystem. What's important, however, is that applying > it takes ~2.5 second on my 2 GHz Athlon64. > > So, even with the extra download time, the update is much faster > than recreating the squashfs. And unlike some types of unionfs, > it doesn't come with extra runtime slowdown. > > What do you think? > +1 I like the idea -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] overlays.gentoo.org restoration & post-mortem

2014-01-18 Thread Markos Chandras
was infra-status. > Now with overlays using the new theme too, I've updated the list. > > (NB: During the outage, I added a link to the site from the g.o frontpage.) > >> I haven't noticed there was a http://overlays.gentoo.org webpage. Looks awesome :) Thank you for the post-mortem analysis and for restoring the data -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profiles.desc header documenting profile/keyword policy

2014-01-20 Thread Markos Chandras
c/index.html Discussing this in gentoo-dev makes no sense. Whoever wants the profiles.desc to be part of the devmanual document, please submit a patch. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJS3XuZXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] eutils.eclass: add optfeature() function

2014-01-25 Thread Markos Chandras
ven't looked at the implementation, but I wonder if we need a function for such trivial stuff. Most maintainers deal with this problem using pkg_postinst() einfo/elog messages. Why do we need a dedicated function for that? Just for consistency reasons...? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] eutils.eclass: add optfeature() function

2014-01-25 Thread Markos Chandras
On 01/25/2014 01:09 PM, Chris Reffett wrote: > On 01/25/2014 05:12 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 01/23/2014 04:48 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Dnia 2014-01-23, o godz. 11:36:06 Chris Reffett >>> napisał(a): >>> >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profiles.desc header documenting profile/keyword policy

2014-01-25 Thread Markos Chandras
t; documentation and not a policy manual -- policy lives in the Gentoo Developer > Handbook. The handbook has not been updated for a good number of years therefore I am moving bits from it to devmanual whenever I have the time. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2014-01-25 Thread Markos Chandras
ist, most of the bugs are ebuild > related (bumps, compile and installation issues). > > (picking a random email from the thread) ping again. 3 months later, the list of bugs remain the same. Shall we consider dropping it to maintainer-needed? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Drop net-analyzer/nagios-* to maintainer-needed

2014-01-26 Thread Markos Chandras
On 01/26/2014 01:57 AM, Chris Reffett wrote: > On 01/25/2014 12:22 PM, Andrew Hamilton wrote: >> On 1/25/2014 9:24 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 11/10/2013 06:12 AM, Johann Schmitz wrote: >>>> - gpg control packet >>>>>> I already have too many p

[gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-09 Thread Markos Chandras
ve that properly? What other distributions do? Or are we a special case and we need our own pc files? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 05/09/2014 09:08 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:57:29 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> I was wondering, is there a good reason we keep our own pkgconfig >> files instead of communicating that to upstream and resolve that >> properly? > > Y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-09 Thread Markos Chandras
in order to make the package compatible with gentoo. Some people may consider downstream pc files more dangerous because reverse deps are affected. But really, if there is no other alternative, we shouldn't be treating this as a special case. We patch upstream packages all the time after all -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-10 Thread Markos Chandras
On 05/10/2014 07:31 AM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 13:50 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 10 May 2014 04:34, Markos Chandras wrote: >>> On 05/09/2014 09:32 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>>> On Fri, 9 May 2014 16:15:58 -0400 >>>> Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
lose to upstream. Gentoo should be close to upstream as much as possible and developers are actively encouraged during recruitment sessions to always try to upstream their patches. If you think a maintainer deviated from upstream for no good reason, well, I would like to think this is an exception instead of common practice. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category lxqt-base

2014-05-12 Thread Markos Chandras
elevant x11-* > categories, as they are perfectly usable in other environments as > well, tho for ease of maintenance you could stick them with the LXQt > packages. > +1 (pcmanfm-qt is already in the tree in x11-misc/, libfm too etc) Maybe it's possible to merge obconf and obconf-qt with a new 'qt' use flag. The less duplication we do, the less time we will need to spend maintaining the packages. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-05-28 Thread Markos Chandras
be unmaintained in practice. I will add something to the Staffing Needs wiki page but feel free to join the herd if you have any interest in these packages. -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-05-30 Thread Markos Chandras
On 05/28/2014 09:32 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> Indeed. I only use a subset of the dev-tools packages so those that I >> don't use will be unmaintained in practice. I will add something to the >> Staffing Nee

Re: [gentoo-dev] alpha, ia64, ppc, ppc64, sparc developers, need your attention

2014-06-01 Thread Markos Chandras
ntoo.devel/88183 [2] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/277054 [3] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130917-summary.txt - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJTixXHXxS

Re: [gentoo-dev] alpha, ia64, ppc, ppc64, sparc developers, need your attention

2014-06-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/01/2014 01:07 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 01-06-2014 a las 13:00 +0100, Markos Chandras escribió: >> On 06/01/2014 12:33 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> El dom, 01-06-2014 a las 14:18 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: >>>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2014-06-02 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/02/2014 02:03 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2014 23:07:55 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> On 05/28/2014 09:32 PM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: >>> Perhaps it makes more sense to disband the herd and put all packages >>> except the ones you use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/29/2014 03:58 AM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > Hi Markos, > > I was wondering why docker 1.0.0 wasn't seeming to get updated on my > boxes recently, despite me commiting the update to the cvs tree, and > Tianon noticed that it was masked at the moment: > > # Mar

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/29/2014 09:12 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 > Markos Chandras wrote: > >> It's been a long time. To be honest I don't remember masking docker >> but I most likely did it because I was asked to mask >=lxc-1.0.0 by >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/29/2014 10:03 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Sunday 29 June 2014 10:12:22 Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 >> >> Markos Chandras wrote: >>> It's been a long time. To be honest I don't remember masking docker >>> but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Docker 1.0.0 masked for no known reason?

2014-06-29 Thread Markos Chandras
On 06/29/2014 10:23 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Sunday 29 June 2014 17:03:52 Patrick Lauer wrote: >> On Sunday 29 June 2014 10:12:22 Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:09:36 +0100 >>> >>> Markos Chandras wrote: >>>> It's been a lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] maintainer-needed@ packages need you!

2014-08-30 Thread Markos Chandras
t; > [1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/maintainer-needed.txt > We already maintain such a list (along with instructions how to get involved) here https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: maintainer-needed@ packages need you!

2014-09-01 Thread Markos Chandras
rs?) >> >> This has nothing to do with specialists. Tox is configuration-free. >> >> And sure, it's pre-alpha as indicated in my previous mail. > > So it doesn't work, but you feel the need to feel superior by telling > everyone > else that they are doing it wrong. > > Sigh. > > Can you please troll somewhere else? > (picking random email to reply) can we please move this off-list? -- Regards, Markos Chandras

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-08-17 23h59 UTC

2014-09-02 Thread Markos Chandras
ved these weekly emails for two weeks. Is there a problem? Maybe you turned them off during the migration but never turned them back on? Is there another problem? Is there a way to get some stats for August so I can use them for the upcoming GMN? - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNAT

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-im/kmess, net-im/amsn, x11-themes/amsn-skins

2014-09-02 Thread Markos Chandras
# Markos Chandras (02 Sep 2014) # MSN service terminated. # You can still use your MSN account in net-im/skype # or switch to an open protocol instead # Masked for removal in 30 days net-im/kmess net-im/amsn x11-themes/amsn-skins - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-08-17 23h59 UTC

2014-09-06 Thread Markos Chandras
ection. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUCsLeXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGRDlGMzA4MUI2MzBDODQ4RDBGOEYxMjQx RjEwRUQ0QjgxREVCRjE5AAoJEB8Q7UuB3r8ZQR8H/22hdfZfk1TZiR2bxR

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2014-08-17 23h59 UTC

2014-09-06 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/06/2014 09:16 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 09/05/2014 11:42 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >> Oldschool python broke on the new CVS box, fixed now. > > > Hi Robin, > > Ok thanks. Is there a way to generate some stat

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-10 Thread Markos Chandras
ct:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs how do you expect to get more people on board if you don't make it known where help is actually needed? - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUELLEXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmd

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating and killing the concept of herds

2014-09-11 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/11/2014 07:30 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:21:24 +0100 Markos Chandras > wrote: > >> On 09/10/2014 03:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> >>> +1; to summarize my thoughts: Herds misrepresent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping GCC maintainership

2014-10-06 Thread Markos Chandras
re is someone from the toolchain@ team who is going to take care of gcc from now on? - -- Regards, Markos Chandras -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQF8BAEBCgBmBQJUMs2tXxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRGRDlGMzA4MUI2MzBDODQ4RDBGOEYxMj

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping GCC maintainership

2014-10-17 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/07/2014 01:00 AM, Patrick McLean wrote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:25:53 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" > wrote: > >> On 10/06/14 13:13, Markos Chandras wrote: Let's face it, this is >> not a job just anyone can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping GCC maintainership

2014-11-14 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/17/2014 09:43 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 10/17/14 14:55, Markos Chandras wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 10/07/2014 01:00 AM, Patrick McLean wrote: >>> On Mon, 06 Oct

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