On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from
portage.
Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ?
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legitimately utilize gtk/gtk2
Is there a legitimate reason to use gtk1 if the gtk2 support is useable?
Either way, there shouldnt be a gtk2 flag..
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in North Hatley.
Our conspiracy is defintely growing.. I live in Montreal... We're like
5-6 in Quebec now!!
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requires old drivers. There
is no valid combination of new and old.
Then you should probably has new drivers block old servers and new
servers block old drivers...
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with dmix and I
can keep aRts disabled. All KDE sounds are ogg files and when I play
them with mpg321, it just exits without producing any sound. I guess
the only thing left for me to use is mplayer?
You can use ogg123
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multilib stuff, otherwise it will be very painful when we decide to
move. And continue to put the stopgap binary packages in /emul.
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Hi,
There have been no release since June 2004, the newer versions have
p.masked since 2004. The older versions doesnt build. They have open
bugs #62182, #88929 and #101581.
I'll remove them on November 1st.
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)
-comment out the inherit line
-comment out DEPEND and RDEPEND
-remove the || die from econf
-comment out the complete src_compile
It may also be a good time to think about updating skel.eclass to use
EAPI=2
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Hello,
mpeg4ip is dead upstream and has various bugs [1] (some we patch, some
we don't).
I'll package.mask/remove it if no one wants to take it over (and
effectively become upstream).
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190959
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slightly inappropriate, given the
above.
Don't think this is an item for fast-tracked EAPI-3.
I'm not a big fan either of this one either, when stuff is patched, you
may not want that disabled.
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~arch supposed to be for testing? Isn't that the point of having
~arch?
~arch is for testing ebuilds, not the upstream package
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to the direction in which GNOME is heading, it will be
required by the core desktop anyway.
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it means. Introspection? Not so much.
It's not the bindings... It's introspection data that describes the API.
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(since in git these
operations are separate). And live with the consequences of your
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On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:00 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote:
В Птн, 25/06/2010 в 14:19 +0530, Arun Raghavan пишет:
On 25 June 2010 14:15, Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote:
В Чтв, 24/06/2010 в 16:43 -0400, Olivier Crête пишет:
[...]
Or you could review the changes before pushing (since
as to not drop break the tree for them.
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On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 18:54 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:47:49AM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 18:04 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
Moreover, slow arches introduce another problem as well. If a package is
marked stabled for their arch
, NetworkManager, etc. Anyone with half a
brain already dropped our stuff. And the lack of use of modern tools is
the reason I don't use Gentoo on my work computer anymore.
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the real content even farther down
the window. Or if you really want to keep it for new users, please allow
us to disable that.
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nano as the default.
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Two days ago, I removed the beta versions of gaim 2.x, gaim-libnotify
depended on it. It has never been So it has been removed from the tree.
It is now called x11-plugins/pidgin-libnotify.
The rest of gaim will soon follow
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# Olivier Crete [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20 Nov 2007)
# There is now a better version include in gnome-base/gnome-keyring
sys-auth/pam_keyring
It will be gone in one month.
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x11-plugins/gaim-xfire
x11-plugins/gaimosd
x11-plugins/ignorance
x11-themes/gaim-smileys
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!). AMD64 was invented
by AMD and they get to pick the name for it. The keyword amd64 in Gentoo
when Intel was still dismissing AMD64...
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FOSS application dlopen() gtk+
or libpng.
FOSS is the keyword here... the flash plugin dlopens a bunch of stuff
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will need a stdc++ depend.
Adding a dep to libc almost everywhere seems extremely wrong to me. I
though we had decided many times that it was a bad idea.
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. Comments? Concerns?
imlib is unmaintained/deprecated. So I don't think it makes sense to
push it by default to users using GNOME/KDE at least (because they have
better image loading libraries).
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On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:18 +0100, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote:
sys-auth/thinkfinger
I have a thinkpad with the right hardware, so I can take this one, did
you already pimp out your other thinkpad packages?
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install everything in /usr like everyone else does, if
upstream wanted it to be parallel installable, they would have made it
that way (like gnome 1.x vs gnome 2.x).
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Hi,
My Inspiron has died so I can no longer test app-laptop/i8kutils, so I
can't really maintain it anymore. If any dev wants to take it, its all
yours. If there is a user who want to maintain it, I can proxy.
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Software Suite
on a *desktop* oriented system?
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it into the tree once a version of portage that
supports it has gone stable. And then, not make any ebuild with the new
EAPI stable for 60 more days so that the new EAPI related code in
portage can be tested properly.
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On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 00:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:09:50 -0500
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I'd like to go further and ask that for the next EAPI change, we only
allow ebuilds using it into the tree once a version of portage that
supports it has gone
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 00:29 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:25:44 -0500
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The testing should be two phased, the first for regression (against
existing ebuilds), and once thats stable, then we can test with new
ebuilds...
Uh
it or not.
Thanks,
Tony (Chainsaw).
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/stage1-ppc64-2005.0.tar.bz2
18756 ./alpha/2005.0/stages/stage1-alpha-2005.0.tar.bz2
19468 ./ia64/2005.0/stages/stage1-ia64-2005.0.tar.bz2
168528 total
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On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 03:09 +0200, Sven Wegener wrote:
And EVER automatically was E-VER for me, never had the idea to read it
as ever. Does that count as being addicted to Gentoo?
Yes it does
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Ah yea, and I also tried my new imlate script on amd64 and it finds
about 50% more packages than the regular version..
We really need to form an x86 team...
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is at:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~tester/debugedit-4.4.3-ebuild.tar.bz2
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1.5 GB inside /usr/lib ..
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to libdir? They are all executables, not
libraries. Its in the same category as /usr/bin.
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to lib/misc.. will need to modify a lot of gnome
package at least.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-May/msg00240.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00401.html
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that even a relatively large
distribution like us can't maintain a competitive base system solution,
adopting the udev/kmod/systemd way will allow us to use all the work
that they are doing and instead concentrate on making a better system.
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On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 01:33 -0600, Matthew Thode wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:12:22 -0500
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
All of my systems currently have a seperate /usr that is mounted at
boot. Unfortunately I do agree that this is not something that we can
fight. This was brought
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On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 15:33 +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 01/01/12 15:12, Olivier Crête wrote:
Hi,
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 19:59 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
I have been working with robbat2 on solutions to the separate /usr issue
(That is why I have specifically cc'd him on this email
one, but also why it is
necessary, how to manage initramfs'es, the concepts underlying, etc.
Short version: use dracut.
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On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 14:51 -0600, Dale wrote:
Olivier Crête wrote:
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 01:33 -0600, Matthew Thode wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:12:22 -0500
Olivier Crêtetes...@gentoo.org wrote:
All of my systems currently have a seperate /usr that is mounted at
boot. Unfortunately
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 20:23 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:21:24 -0500
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
Honestly, so many things just work on MacOS and just need hours of
tweaking for us..
The problem with just works is that when it breaks, it can't be
fixed
Hi,
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 10:41 +0200, Eray Aslan wrote:
On 2012-01-01 11:50 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
systemd/dracut/etc handles /usr on its own filesystem just fine. What is
required is that /usr must be mounted before the pivot_root away from
the initramfs.
RedHat made some bad design
question. I haven't heard one way or the other
what is happening with /lib/modules.
I doubt the kernel will move its install location, they're a very
conservative bunch. But I heard that kmod will start looking for modules
in /usr/lib/modules ...
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On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 13:02 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 01:50:25PM -0500, Olivier Crête wrote:
I don't see what breakage would be caused by a big-bang update (move
everything in /sbin,/bin/,usr/sbin to usr/bin and add symlinks. I really
doubt any system has a /usr so
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 14:35 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote:
2012/1/3 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org:
A couple years ago, Gentoo was the forward looking distribution, ready
to try radical changes that break existing assumption, like our init
scripts with dependencies or our early use of udev
/usr mounted:
egrep 'usb-db|pci-db|FROM_DATABASE|/usr' /*/udev/rules.d/* |cut -f 1
-d : | sort -u | xargs qfile -e
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of tight coupling...
You clearly have failed to realize that d-bus is a now the bus for
system messaging and is as much part of the system as syslog or bash.
Probably even more so, for example, in Fedora 17, you'll be able to boot
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horrifies me.
No no no, the idea is that once all binaries are in /usr, you can easily
share /usr between different systems and do updates in a sane way.. You
can also mount /usr read-only, but still have / be read-write.
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* Olivier Crête schrieb am 04.01.12 um 18:40 Uhr:
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:54 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:51:12 +0100
Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
/bin/systemctl
libdbus-1.so.3
day than the total number of servers in the world...
But well, this isn't a number's game. D-Bus is the system bus and
bluetooth is just one example of a system level component that uses it.
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and shell.
Obviously, you can do init=/bin/sh, that's doesn't help you much. I
think we're all speaking of a minimually useful system here.
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and shell.
Obviously, you can do init=/bin/sh, that's doesn't help you much. I
think we're all speaking of a minimally useful system here.
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On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 21:09 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:02:09 -0500
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 20:08 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:30:24 -0600
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Or will /etc move
not removing the symlink unless there is a technical
reason why its presence is undesirable.
Doing aggressive migrations like that should really be avoided.. But we
know that the real long term solution is to have a /bin - /usr/bin
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On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 08:44 +0800, Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 01/06/12 05:26, Olivier Crête wrote:
[snip]
The only thing I see them sacrificing is loose coupling, they provide
more functionality than any other init system, more correctness
(seriously, did you ever read most init scripts out
in your cluster or machine room or your many user
desktops.
With the current system, you either have to maintain in sync
the /bin, /sbin, /usr, etc separately, making life harder for everyone.
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On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 14:22 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote:
The default value of AdminIdentities changed to group wheel by
upstream since version 0.103.
You never mention what the old value was.. useful to figure out if it
will cause problems.
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to use a
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want to easily use USB sticks or digital
cameras or gsm dongles or really any modern hardware, I'm sure mdev is
fine. A static /dev is even fine for you probably.
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On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 20:37 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm sure most people can't
even explain the difference between them.
/sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run. easy. :)
Except when it isn't
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 20:37 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm sure most people can't
even explain the difference between them.
/sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run. easy. :)
Or you can try
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 23:54 -0400, Richard Yao wrote:
On 07/17/2012 07:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 18:41 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
If somebody really is pushing for an all-out /usr move by all means
speak up, but I think that basically what everybody is advocating
dependencies on udev for certain features.
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it possible to do atomic upgrades and such. Also, you can have
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domination is to use systemd as
a session manager, so it would replace gnome-session, etc. Lennart
friends are currently pushing kernel patches to make it fully recursive
(such as being able to re-parent orphaned processes to the session's
systemd instead of the global one.
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On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 20:28 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
On 06-08-2012 11:16:52 -0700, Olivier Crête wrote:
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:56 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
While OpenRC is likely perfectly capable of starting/stopping daemons as
a normal user (with some tweaks), I expect systemd
://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/timedated
[3] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/localed
[4] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind
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On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 10:42 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
On 08/07/2012 09:00 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
I expect that in the not so long term, systemd will become an essential
user-space component of desktop Linux, just like crond, syslog, dbus,
udev or glibc. Sharing that code just makes sense
On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 13:31 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 11:12:46AM -0700, Olivier Crête wrote:
Most ideas behind systemd are interesting, their current implementation
is sometimes completely wrong and given the experience with pulseaudio
we all know
in (and
sysvinit with it) for all systemd users even if we don't use it at
all.
Good idea. While we're at it, please also let's not make
systemd/udevd/dbus/pam mandatory.
Can we also have a desktop that doesn't use X?
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Should I even worry about it?
There really have no reason to be in $(get_libdir) as they're not
compiled for the platform implied by $(get_libdir) !
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we should keep OpenRC
support for one or both of these?
The ifplugd author recommends you use NetworkManager for dynamic
networking scenarios.
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On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 20:01 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
On 9/10/12 11:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:26:10PM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 09:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
In researching this program, I have found that it and ifplugd, which
and others advertise UPnP as DLNA (digital living network
appliance) but that actually refers to both port forwarding (eg. used in
consoles) and to media streaming (eg. PC to TV).
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it to use it. Read the man
page. Otherwise yea it will crash.
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Hi,
I haven't updated it in years and no one has noticed. I guess no one
uses it. And I don't use it anymore either. Bug #67273 has been there
for a long time.
It is p.masked and will be removed on Nov 16 2006.
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Petteri Räty wrote:
So please give dirtyepic the usual warm welcome.
Welcome Ryan, always nice to have another Canadian :)
Go Canooks!!
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On Tue, 2006-24-10 at 21:57 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
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Hi,
I wrote an eselect module for choosing between the browser plugins from
net-www/gnash and net-www/netscape-flash, and I was wondering if it could
be included
On Sat, 2006-04-11 at 16:36 +0100, Christian Heim wrote:
Its my pleasure to introduce to you Hans de Graaff (also known as
graaff), our latest addition helping with emacs/xemacs.
Go Emacs! Go Emacs!
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Hi,
There have been no release since June 2004, the newer versions have
p.masked since 2004. The older versions doesnt build. They have open
bugs #62182, #88929 and #101581.
I'll remove them on November 1st.
Gabber is gone.. All
it redundant. I think
we should exclude changes to package.mask from that changelog otherwise
it will drown in noise.
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and CC yourself on the bug.
Its also unmaintained upstream and is showing its age.
Its now masked and will be removed in 30 days if no one comes forward,
and becomes a new quasi-upstream.
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opt for 3, since it allows the council to keep on functioning
properly. Or maybe 3 if there is unanimous approuval from the council or
2 otherwise.
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Olivier Crête
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