Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 09:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:43:11 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 02:14 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > > > Revised to use a separate variable for the name of the flag instead >

Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 10:14 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 20/09/12 09:52 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:13:40 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius > > wrote: > >> PMS may not need to be fixed, just the spec > > > > PMS is

Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 14:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:13:40 -0400 > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > PMS may not need to be fixed, just the spec > > PMS is the spec, and it doesn't need fixing, since it accurately

Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 09:13 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 20/09/12 03:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:43:11 +0200 Pacho Ramos > > wrote: > > > >> El jue, 20-09-2012

Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 03:33 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 08:43 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 02:14 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > > > Revised to use a separate variable for the name of the flag instead of >

Re: [gentoo-dev] vala.eclass: change vala_src_prepare behavior when USE=-vala

2012-09-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 02:14 -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev escribió: > Revised to use a separate variable for the name of the flag instead of > reading IUSE, as suggested by Ciaran McCreesh. As a result of this > change, vala.eclass now defaults to assuming that vala support is > optional (which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-libs/gmyth, media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv, net-libs/libmonetra, dev-php/pecl-mcve, dev-vcs/svk, net-im/jabberd, net-p2p/sancho-bin, media-sound/xfi-drivers, app-mi

2012-09-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 17-09-2012 a las 14:47 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 17/09/12 12:03, Peter Stuge wrote: > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>>>>> # Pacho Ramos (16 Sep 2012) > >>>>>> # Upstream keeps inactive for ages and, then, it has broke again > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-libs/gmyth, media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv, net-libs/libmonetra, dev-php/pecl-mcve, dev-vcs/svk, net-im/jabberd, net-p2p/sancho-bin, media-sound/xfi-drivers, app-mi

2012-09-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 17-09-2012 a las 07:56 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió: > Ben de Groot wrote: > > On 16 September 2012 23:40, Peter Stuge wrote: > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > >> # Pacho Ramos (16 Sep 2012) > > >> # Upstream keeps inactive for ages and, then, it

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-libs/gmyth, media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv, net-libs/libmonetra, dev-php/pecl-mcve, dev-vcs/svk, net-im/jabberd, net-p2p/sancho-bin, media-sound/xfi-drivers, app-misc/r

2012-09-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (16 Sep 2012) # Dead upstream, fails tests (#315565), wasn't updated # for recent MythTV versions. Removal in a month. media-libs/gmyth media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv # Pacho Ramos (16 Sep 2012) # Fails old-elibtoolize sanity check (#341721), has security # issues. Removal

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 15:48 +0200, Alex Legler escribió: > On 12.09.2012 19:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are > > needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and >

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 03:43 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:53:20 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > You can un-CC yourself. I don't see why security@ should be doing > > > the legwork. > > > > It shouldn't be so hard t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 18:30 -0400, Sean Amoss escribió: > On 09/12/2012 02:54 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 04:30 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: > >> On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> Hello > >>> > >>> Cu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-13 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 18:30 -0400, Sean Amoss escribió: > On 09/12/2012 02:54 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 04:30 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: > >> On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> Hello > >>> > >>> Cu

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 14:42 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > > > So you would want to be re-CC'd when it is time to remove the vulnerable > > versions, I guess. > > Isn't this done shortly after keywording is complete? I think the > co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 13-09-2012 a las 04:30 +1000, Michael Palimaka escribió: > On 2012-09-13 03:59, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are > > needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and

Re: [gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 20:29 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:59:01 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Hello > > > > Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their > > are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers

[gentoo-dev] About changing security policy to unCC maintainers when their are not needed

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Currently, package maintainers are CCed to security bugs when their are needed. The problem is that, once maintainers add a fixed version and tell security team they are ok to get it stabilized, maintainers are kept CCed until bug is closed by security team. This usually means getting a lot

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: netplugd and ifplugd support in OpenRc

2012-09-12 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 12-09-2012 a las 08:44 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 11/09/12 06:23 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:01 PM, William Hubbs > > wrote: > >> > >> I can agree that a server would probably want a static > >> c

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/aiccu - maintainer needed

2012-08-01 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 31-07-2012 a las 22:31 +0200, Maciej Grela escribió: > 2012/7/31 Amadeusz Żołnowski : > > I have taken it recently, but realised I'm not going to use aiccu on > > Gentoo any time soon. Sorry for mess-up. > > Hi, > > I'd like to volunteer for being a proxy maintainer for this package. > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default

2012-07-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 27-07-2012 a las 13:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Friday 27 July 2012 08:13:16 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > > Ulrich Mueller schrieb: > > > As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an en_US > > > locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas as tho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Don't require assignment of empty variables in ebuilds?

2012-07-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 25-07-2012 a las 18:38 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: [...] > The single exception to this is IUSE, which > is required to be present in an ebuild even if it's empty. Maybe we > should drop this requirement, too. +1 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/quagga needs help

2012-07-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 23-07-2012 a las 15:08 -0700, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: > Il 23/07/2012 14:10, Peter Stuge ha scritto: > > Did anyone report it upstream? > > Not me ... because I wouldn't know which one to care about. The problem > with upstream is that you have what they call master that is not really

[gentoo-dev] net-misc/quagga needs help

2012-07-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
It has security bugs opened for a long time: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408507 Also, current version fails to build, and the same occurs while trying to bump to the latest version: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421861 Help with this is needed, otherwise we will probably nee

[gentoo-dev] About replacing man with man-db

2012-07-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
As explained at: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284822 There are multiple issues with sys-apps/man that could be solved switching to sys-apps/man-db instead, the problem is that the process looks to be blocked by: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289884 After checking that bug rep

[gentoo-dev] Make connman a global USE flag

2012-07-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
Several packages are using it with the same sense (support connman), maybe we should move it from local to global USEs, what do you think? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-ftp/netkit-tftp

2012-07-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-07-2012 a las 21:06 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: > On 07/08/2012 08:57 PM, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 23:29:35 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > >> El dom, 08-07-2012 a las 21:49 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] base.eclass

2012-07-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-07-2012 a las 22:59 +0200, René Neumann escribió: > Am 08.07.2012 22:10, schrieb Michał Górny: > > On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 19:49:25 +0200 > > René Neumann wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'd like just to receive a short clarification about the 'status' of > >> base.eclass: Is this eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for net-ftp/netkit-tftp

2012-07-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 08-07-2012 a las 21:49 +0200, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: > Il 08/07/2012 20:13, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn ha scritto: > > Please report a removal bug for this, so any issues concerning users of > > netkit-tftp can be tracked. > > Here it is: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4

[gentoo-dev] About ppc status and stable keywords

2012-07-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
For a long time I have been observing ppc team reacts really slowly to stabilization requests, causing us to need to keep old ebuilds for a long time. Maybe it's time to start dropping stable keywords for ppc as looks like team doesn't have enough man power to keep stable updated. What do you thin

[gentoo-dev] About tests needing internet connection to run

2012-07-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
After reading: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424719 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=397973 Looks like there is not consensus about how to handle this cases, probably a PROPERTIES variable for this would help :-/ Any ideas on this kind of issue? signature.asc Description: This

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES="userpriv usersandbox" by default?

2012-07-03 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 02-07-2012 a las 13:45 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 07/02/2012 01:36 PM, viv...@gmail.com wrote: > > Il 02/07/2012 22:01, Zac Medico ha scritto: > >> On 07/02/2012 12:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El lun, 28-05-2012 a las 14:34 -0700, Zac Medico escribi

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Enable FEATURES="userpriv usersandbox" by default?

2012-07-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 28-05-2012 a las 14:34 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > Hi, > > In case you aren't familiar with FEATURES=userpriv, here's the > description from the make.conf(5) man page: > > Allow portage to drop root privileges and compile packages as > portage:portage without a sandbox (unless users

Re: [gentoo-dev] About trying to prevent downgrades of packages that cause system breakage

2012-06-30 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 13:46 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/06/12 01:30 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 13:17 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] About trying to prevent downgrades of packages that cause system breakage

2012-06-30 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 30-06-2012 a las 13:17 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 30/06/12 11:16 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Saturday 30 June 2012 07:22:39 Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 06/30/2012 04:07 AM, Pacho Ramos w

[gentoo-dev] About trying to prevent downgrades of packages that cause system breakage

2012-06-30 Thread Pacho Ramos
I would like to discuss a bit more issues like: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=423087 Even if there are "a lot" of packages that can cause this breakage when downgraded, I think it should be prevented and package managers shouldn't try to downgrade this kind of packages as they will later

Re: [gentoo-dev] prune_libtool_files is NOT a direct replacement for, example, find "${D}" -name '*.la' -delete

2012-06-28 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 28-06-2012 a las 10:26 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:12:34 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > The logic in prune_libtool_files is not perfect[1]. > > Define 'perfect'. > > > To clarify: > > > > Use `prune_libtool_files --all` instead of plain > > `prune_libto

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 18:45 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:43:10 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > It treats -r300 as being newer than -r200, and so will treat "the > > > gtk3 version" or "the jruby version" as being newer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 18:30 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:23:57 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Did you send this proposal seriously or only to troll comparing it > > with what you think tommy did with multilib thread? > > Uhm, this proposal

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 17:53 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:47:26 +0200 > Justin wrote: > > On 23.06.2012 18:17, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:13:23 +0200 > > > Justin wrote: > > >> Did you read what you wrote and thought about what you request f

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 13:16 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:11:28 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Looks like you have now opted to use Brian's comment as a kind of > > "shield" of similar and discuss only about multilib, even when thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:59 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:52:24 +0200 > Peter Stuge wrote: > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > bring this to the point where we can say something other than > > > "huh?". > > > > You can accelerate by making one guess about each thing on

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:37 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:38:09 +0200 > Peter Stuge wrote: > > If you don't understand something of what thus far has been written, > > then why not ask specific questions to fill those gaps, and move on? > > The multilib material isn

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 11:31 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:24:32 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > As Peter explains, I think it is now clear enough what I was demanding > > (about clarifying what is needed to get things in next EAPI to prevent > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:24 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 11:53 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió: > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > What is hurting is people demanding features without specifying what > > > the problem is > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 11:53 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > What is hurting is people demanding features without specifying what > > the problem is > > Part of enabling progress is to show a strong will to communicate, > with the goal of extracting common understanding

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 11:27 +0200, Alec Warner escribió: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 08:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > >> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:08:55 +0200 > >> Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> > Als

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 19:15 +0800, Patrick Lauer escribió: > On 06/21/12 15:25, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 08:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > >> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:08:55 +0200 > >> Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> Also, if I rememb

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 08:39 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:25:10 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Then, looks clear to me that the way to get things approved in newer > > EAPIs is not clear enough as looks like a lot of devs (like me) don't >

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 21-06-2012 a las 08:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:08:55 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Also, if I remember correctly, Tommy asked for this some months ago, > > you asked for what he sent some days ago and now you require more and >

Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-20 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 20-06-2012 a las 23:43 +0200, Justin escribió: > On 20.06.2012 22:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:30 -0400 > > Richard Yao wrote: > >> Multilib (and/or multiarch) support > >>The current binaries cause a great deal of pain, particularly > >> when a user does no

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 22:10 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió: > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I guess the point is that it is not really a dependency. > > > > No, it's a dependency only when you want ppp support working, > > Logically, but not technically. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 22:07 -0500, Dale escribió: > Duncan wrote: > > > > Looking at the broader picture, the problem of extraneous packages in the > > world file has always concerned me. If it were to be done over again, > > and I think Zac would likely agree, emerge would use --oneshot by

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-17 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 22:36 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:49:10 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 19:07 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:30:55 +0200 > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 17:46 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:41:51 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > The :*/:= feature was designed to solve one specific problem: if a > > > user has foo installed, and foo deps upon bar, and bar:1 is > > &

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 20:55 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 06/16/2012 06:59 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > This was noticed recently when getting: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420569 > > > > Also hit this problem today while trying to bump bluez a

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 19:50 +0200, Peter Stuge escribió: > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Also hit this problem today while trying to bump bluez and noticed we > > are using elog messages to tell people to manually install > > net-dialup/ppp if they want ppp working with bluez.

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 19:07 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:30:55 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 18:09 +0200, hasufell escribió: > > > It breaks the useflag philosophy, IMO. > > > > > > Useflags were

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 17:24 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 17:16:34 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 15:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:48:20 +0200 > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 18:09 +0200, hasufell escribió: > It breaks the useflag philosophy, IMO. > > Useflags were meant as switches. You can turn things on and off. Pulling > in optional dependencies via useflags does not allow the user to turn > something off when he sets USE="-foo" emerge fuqb

[gentoo-dev] About using USE flags to pull in needed RDEPENDs being discouraged by devmanual

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
This was noticed recently when getting: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420569 Also hit this problem today while trying to bump bluez and noticed we are using elog messages to tell people to manually install net-dialup/ppp if they want ppp working with bluez. I am unsure about the disadva

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 17:16 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 15:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:48:20 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Regarding the comparison with using only SLOT, the most clear example > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 15:52 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:48:20 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Regarding the comparison with using only SLOT, the most clear example > > of how that solution was a bit worse was that glib vs > > dbus-gl

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 15:31 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:29:09 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I thought last Zac suggestion of ABI_SLOT modified to use > > "SLOT=ble/bla" was clear enough and we reached a consensus. > &g

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: sys-kernel/cluster-sources

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (16 Jun 2012) # No needed since kernel-3.2, bug#411405#c6 # Removal in a month. sys-kernel/cluster-sources signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 14:48 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:37:44 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > About suggesting new item (like forcing rebuilding of other > > > > packages as discussed some days ago and crosscompile support > &

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2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
# Pacho Ramos (16 Jun 2012) # Bundles unsecure libexpat, all packages still needing it # are dead, orphan and have replacements. See bug #251433. # Removal in 30 days. net-libs/libtlen net-im/gnugadu net-im/tleenx2 # Pacho Ramos (16 Jun 2012) # Bundles python-2.3 and other libs affected by

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 13:43 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:26:16 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > OK, would you let me to create a tracker bug for eapi5 accepted item? > > No. We're working on the PMS list. We don't need yet another p

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 14:12 +0200, Ulrich Mueller escribió: > >>>>> On Sat, 16 Jun 2012, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I would like to know if there is some place where things going to be > > included (or proposed to be included) for eapi5 are listed (if such &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 16-06-2012 a las 13:13 +0200, Agostino Sarubbo escribió: > On Saturday 16 June 2012 12:55:22 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Hello > > > > I would like to know if there is some place where things going to be > > included (or proposed to be included) for eapi5 are liste

[gentoo-dev] About what would be included in EAPI5

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello I would like to know if there is some place where things going to be included (or proposed to be included) for eapi5 are listed (if such place exists). Currently, looks like there is no eapi5 tracker :-/ Thanks a lot for the info :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed me

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due wormo taking care of bug wrangling only

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
app-admin/ulogd app-arch/pdv Feel free to get them Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due cla retirement

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due volkmar being unable to maintain them because of lack of time

2012-06-16 Thread Pacho Ramos
The following packages are now orphan: app-emulation/playonlinux app-emulation/vboxgtk dev-libs/xmlrpc-epi dev-util/bam media-libs/pnglite media-video/miro net-misc/plowshare Feel free to get them Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild laziness and binpkg overhead

2012-06-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 15-06-2012 a las 09:03 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El mar, 12-06-2012 a las 23:02 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > > i've noticed a growing trend where people put setup of variables into > > pkg_setup that only matter to src_* funcs presumably so they don

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild laziness and binpkg overhead

2012-06-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 12-06-2012 a las 23:02 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > i've noticed a growing trend where people put setup of variables into > pkg_setup that only matter to src_* funcs presumably so they don't have to > call the respective src_* func from an inherited eclass. unfortunately this > add

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag "ps"

2012-06-14 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 15-06-2012 a las 05:43 +0300, Samuli Suominen escribió: > On 06/15/2012 05:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 14 June 2012 21:16:31 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> So how about renaming USE="gs" consumers to USE="ps" and making USE="ps" > >> global flag with the proposed description?

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk3 useflag and support of older toolkits

2012-06-11 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 11-06-2012 a las 18:08 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 13:15:40 +0100 > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Ciaran McCreesh > > wrote: > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:45:27 +0100 > > > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > >> It's a simple workaround fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 10-06-2012 a las 13:25 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 13:55:53 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > > A dependency atom will have optional SLOT and ABI_SLOT parts. Using > > the dbus-glib depedency on glib:2 as an example [1], the dbus-glib > > dependency will be expressed w

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk3 useflag and support of older toolkits

2012-06-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 10-06-2012 a las 11:45 +0300, Maxim Kammerer escribió: > Just to illustrate the USE=gtk3 confusion, on packages I has personal > experience with: > [...] > gnome-base/librsvg > --> flag for gtk3 libraries *and* executables (independent USE=gtk; an > example of a package that should be slot

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 09-06-2012 a las 12:46 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:31 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > > On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > > >> On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:31 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/08/2012 12:23 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > >> On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Me

[gentoo-dev] app-misc/lirc needs some love

2012-06-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Is anyone familiarized with lirc? Due all their opened bugs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=lirc&list_id=1087335 and, specially: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160134 that is also affecting 0.9, all lirc versions in the tree are broken for a long time. Thanks!

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 12:16 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/08/2012 01:38 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > >> On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Me

[gentoo-dev] net-misc/ntpclient up for grabs due solar concentrating in other packages

2012-06-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due dang concentrating in gnome work

2012-06-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
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Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-08 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:33 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > >> On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran Mc

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 > >> Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>>> I would pref

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on > > > glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than >

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:16 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > > On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > > > Zac Medico wrote: > > >> I can imagin

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >> I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular > >> than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator d

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:04 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote: > > And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, > > if they were available. > > No, we wouldn't. > > Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 10:42 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/06/2012 10:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >>> You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple > >>> versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If you r

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 18:40 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > > I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular > > than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate > > the common practice of al

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 14:59 -0700, Brian Harring escribió: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 07:18:01PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > > On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > > > Is there any chance to detect this ZLIB_VERSION problem with > > > revdep-rebuild (worst case: add a list of possibly br

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 20:23 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would > > be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it and looks to have an idea > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion to drop "pcre" from default enabled USE flags in profiles

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 14:53 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Wednesday 06 June 2012 14:06:47 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > The problem is that grep keeps linked against libpcre and it can cause > > problems like pointed in referred bug report, and it's really risky as >

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 19:33 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:30:52 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > Also, how could this be handled in dbus-glib side? I mean, would > > > > we need to update dbus-glib update from RDEPENDing on glib

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 19:15 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 20:02:24 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Probably other gnome team could reply this better than me, but I don't > > think slotting every glib-2 due ABI changes deserves the huge effort.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion to drop "pcre" from default enabled USE flags in profiles

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 13:23 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Wednesday 06 June 2012 04:26:11 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I think that would be interesting to try to not get grep build with pcre > > support by default, specially after reading "man grep" and seeing that

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-06 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 18:19 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:32:08 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > We do? Please tell us. I was under the impression that we still > > > didn't fully know what the problem was. > > > > Well, c

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