Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds creating mountpoints

2006-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefaan wrote: Hi! I'm having an issue with the openafs-ebuild, and I don't see a solution for the moment. I wondered if someone on the list would: Prerequisite: The ebuild needs to create the /afs directory, and remove that same directory when it is uninstalled. The obvious solution

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds creating mountpoints

2006-01-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: Stefaan wrote: Hi! I'm having an issue with the openafs-ebuild, and I don't see a solution for the moment. I wondered if someone on the list would: Prerequisite: The ebuild needs to create the /afs directory, and remove that same directory when it is uninstalled

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE, metapackages, and monolithic packages

2006-02-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Mike Myers wrote: Hello! Currently, as you all surely already know, KDE is currently handled with metapackages or monolithic packages. The metapackages is very convenient for a more complete install of KDE, and the monolithic packages are better or a more modular install. However, with

[gentoo-dev] net-wireless/package.masked pending removal

2006-06-24 Thread Petteri Räty
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75674#c8 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48686#c1 Copied from second link: I have announced the end-of-life for this package on gentoo-dev and gentoo-user, as: 1) It only compiles against gtk+-1.2, which is highly outdated. 2) It only compiles

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-wireless/gtkskan package.masked pending removal

2006-06-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75674#c8 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48686#c1 Copied from second link: I have announced the end-of-life for this package on gentoo-dev and gentoo-user, as: 1) It only compiles against gtk+-1.2, which is highly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing gnophone from tree

2006-06-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Gustavo Felisberto wrote: Gnophone is upstream dead. Does not build in amd64 (and probably other arches) failling on configure. I'm going to give this two weeks an then remove it if no one offers to solve this problems. (There is no open bug so one should contact me directly) What is

[gentoo-dev] last ritest for dev-java/saxon-bin

2006-07-30 Thread Petteri Räty
with the from sources version. Regards, Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Reminder about the need to revision bump virtual providers when migrating to new style virtuals

2006-08-20 Thread Petteri Räty
When migrating to new style virtuals you must revision bump everything providing the new style virtual to get rid of the PROVIDE files in /var/db/pkg. ./app-admin/gamin-0.1.7/PROVIDE:virtual/fam If you do not do this, Portage considers the virtual installed without actually looking at the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer - Vlastimil Babka

2006-09-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: Bordering with Germany, Austria, Slovakia and Poland you find the Czech Republic, smack bang in the centre you find Prague, one of my all time favourite places to go for a long weekend of cheap beer and much fun. Beer isn't all that comes out of this place though,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-proxy/paros, net-misc/ups-monitor, app-emulation/mol, net-wireless/fsam7400, net-wireless/acx, net-wireless/acx-firmware, net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-modules, net-wirele

2012-11-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 24.11.2012 23.12, Pacho Ramos wrote: # Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (24 Nov 2012) # Doesn't build against recent kernels (#247898), all its supported # devices are not supported by latest kernels. Removal in a month. net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-modules net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-utils

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-22 Thread Petteri Räty
On 13.1.2013 0.49, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: Please review attached automatically generated stabilization candidates for January. I don't want to annoy people with automatically filed bugs, and at the same time I also received lots of positive feedback about the effort to keep the stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations

2013-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
On 20.6.2013 14.01, Matthew Thode wrote: On 06/20/2013 03:39 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: The final outcome I would love to see is that everybody eventually graduates from kindergarten :-) And perhaps introduce a culture-fit score in the recruiting, mentoring process. As an employee that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Temporary DevRel actions for CoC violations

2013-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
On 20.6.2013 16.07, Matthew Thode wrote: On 06/20/2013 07:49 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 20.6.2013 14.01, Matthew Thode wrote: On 06/20/2013 03:39 AM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: The final outcome I would love to see is that everybody eventually graduates from kindergarten :-) And perhaps

[gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to make it easy to read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Issues regarding glep-55

2009-02-24 Thread Petteri Räty
Also one point worth nothing here is that migrating from EAPI in the file name to having it in a special place in the file can be scripted so the change should be quite easy to do at a later point in time for the main repository if wanted. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for February 26

2009-02-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 23:26 Sun 22 Feb , Donnie Berkholz wrote: This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about,

Re: [gentoo-dev] eapi function (Was: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives)

2009-02-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:43:44 -0100 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:02:46 -0800 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: snip a few arguments Ciaran and Brian, please respect Pettery's request

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Caleb Cushing wrote: Are we to say that we shouldn't allow tools to have support for this. I think that it is a nature progression that if we are to allow overlays to extend the portage tree that we should allow overlays to extend other overlays. I probably shouldn't butt in... first,

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Mart Raudsepp wrote: Hello, I'm collecting ideas from the wider development and contributing community on how to help maintainers and contributors get work done quicker, or rephrased - how to get more done in the limited time we have. This RSS feed should be turned into a GLEP about a

Re: [gentoo-dev] x-modular.eclass: A modified approach to EAPI support

2009-03-06 Thread Petteri Räty
Donnie Berkholz wrote: I decided to try something a little different because I had some ideas for improving the existing EAPI patches I've seen going into other eclasses. So here is my patch for x-modular.eclass. I tested it with ebuilds using EAPIs 0, 1, and 2, and it appeared to work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for next bugday: Mass use deps migration

2009-03-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: I suggest that we dedicate the next bugday in March to migrating as many built_with_use calls to use dependencies as possible. Actively maintained packages should have mostly been migrated by now and in general it's better for the user experience to get rid of all those

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Retirements

2009-03-10 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: Granted the people I've recently talked to about this or the people I remember bringing this issue up in the past had this happen to them before we had this firm policy in place so really you're addressing a lot of the issues. But the whole act of making them go

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-14 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Sachau wrote: I would like to know, if there is some policy about editing skel.* files or who owns/maintains them. Additionally, i suggest some changes to skel.ebuild: Posts diffs to gentoo-dev and if there are no objections -- commit. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for March 26

2009-03-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * what the plan is for Portage implementation of that feature, and the likelihood of it making it We should have someone dedicated to seeing each item implemented. For example someone from the council. Follows a quick list with hopefully no brain farts. In general

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. I'd like to suggest the following too: * If DOCS is explicitly specified, it is an error if

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:48 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Why do you want to force -j1 here? Because any package using an old automake has a non-parallel-safe install. I would rather have detection in place for old automake in the build system and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: I am aware of the fact that we are late for EAPI 3 (partly because I didn't expect that the change would require an EAPI bump). Question to the council: is it still possible to include this? Considering that there is a lot of breakage, as well as strange workarounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: X.org server upgrade

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, please see attached news item for review. V-Li s/emerging/updating/ Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we don't want it exposed to the users. If you don't want it exposed to users, then use

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 04-04-2009 13:23:24 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we don't want

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use that can be hidden. It is not. But can be added. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 04-04-2009 14:54:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use that can be hidden. It is not. But can be added. I think we talk about

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: On 04-04-2009 15:21:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: You can set USERLAND=GNU PREFIX Prefix is not a userland, please understand that. It's like pizza not being an elibc, or beer not being a kernel. Sure it's not a user land like GNU

[gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: auto-export

2009-04-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it properly with eclass-manpages etc. Regards, Petteri # Copyright 1999-2009 Gentoo Foundation #

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: auto-export

2009-04-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it properly with eclass-manpages etc. Regards, Petteri No need

Re: [gentoo-dev] PKG-INFO (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)

2009-04-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Still trying to stick to one subthread per item here. On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:27:41 +0300 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: * PKG-INFO query. I have probably missed what's the use case for non installed packages? For some packages, when a bug report

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: auto-export

2009-04-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Arun Raghavan wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 16:35 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it properly

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass proposal: auto-export

2009-04-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Brian Harring wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:35:37PM +0300, Petteri R??ty wrote: Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo cluster liveCD

2009-04-23 Thread Petteri Räty
Tom Stellard wrote: I am trying to build the Gentoo cluster live CD using the overlay from here: git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/clustering-livecd.git I have run into some problems with some of the ebuilds in this overlay. Here is a patch to fix the beowulf-head ebuild. -Tom Stellard

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed email - Dropping old kde3 eclasses from the tree

2009-05-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Hi. As the KDE team prepares to add revised eclasses for the KDE3 ebuilds so we can get 3.5.10 marked stable and then finally ask for KDE4 stabilization, we'd like to drop some old eclasses from the tree. We plan to drop the kde-base, kde-dist, kde-i18n and

Re: [gentoo-dev] proposed email - Dropping old kde3 eclasses from the tree

2009-05-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Hi. As the KDE team prepares to add revised eclasses for the KDE3 ebuilds so we can get 3.5.10 marked stable and then finally ask for KDE4 stabilization, we'd like to drop some old eclasses from the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for testing of GnuTLS 2.7.*

2009-05-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: GnuTLS =2.7.1 doesn't contain 'libgnutls-config' and 'libgnutls-extra-config' scripts so packages, which use them, usually fail to build. (Sometimes `configure` scripts disable support for GnuTLS without failing.) The list of packages depending on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 00:25 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote: This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: At the very least, before attempting any mass recruitment, the quiz needs to be lengthened, brought up to date and split into answer these on the spot on IRC without having seen the question before and research allowed questions, and recruiters have to be prepared to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries - Java Recruiters

2009-05-09 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, any project lead/member can post an answer to this mail for a status report: Java: - Too much stuff in overlays - Beat caster with a stick - Need more people to maintain our hundreds of packages - Critical pkgs do have designated maintainers - Beat all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Patrick Lauer wrote: Then there's package management. (Your favourite topic, I guess, because you want to keep complexifying it until one needs a PhD to write an ebuild [which, in a way, would be quite ironic]) At least for me new EAPIs have been / are making ebuild writing easier.

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI Changes

2009-05-15 Thread Petteri Räty
William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 03:49:51AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:47:24AM +0200, Tiziano M?ller wrote: Thanks Robin for finally pushing this in the tree, just didn't find the time to. Maybe it's a good time to emphasize this: Keep in mind that

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI Changes

2009-05-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Freitag, den 15.05.2009, 23:30 +0300 schrieb Petteri Räty: William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 03:49:51AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:47:24AM +0200, Tiziano M?ller wrote: Thanks Robin for finally pushing this in the tree, just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI Changes

2009-05-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Duncan wrote: Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org posted 4a0dd0ed.1070...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Fri, 15 May 2009 23:30:37 +0300: Indeed there's no problem switching EAPIs as long as a stable Portage supports the EAPI you are migrating to. Portage was buggy with this when EAPI 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] DESCRIPTION size

2009-05-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Mounir Lamouri wrote: Ulrich Mueller wrote: The devmanual also says Where possible, try to keep lines no wider than 80 positions. which would limit DESCRIPTION to 66 characters. These are guidelines, not strict rules. Keep it shorter if it's reasonably possible. Even guidelines should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Files owned by multiple slots

2009-05-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Sven wrote: Gilles Dartiguelongue eva at gentoo.org writes: so this wrapper could be installed in a separate eselect sort of package ? How exactly can this be done? If a gem creates five executables, would this mean that this gem comes in six ebuilds? well given the next answer, it sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI Changes

2009-05-17 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 16 May 2009 02:31:45 +0300 Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote: On the other hand you also have to make sure you have a stable portage for a time long enough so mostly everyone has it installed. Otherwise you could break users systems pretty badly depending

Re: [gentoo-dev] blocking mixed versions of split QT libraries

2009-05-18 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009 13:04:27 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately we've got reports from paludis users stating that they can't update QT from qting-edge anymore. Paludis treats blocks as strong, the way Portage used to and the way PMS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-doc/afsdoc (Jun 1 2009)

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill wrote: Masked this a couple weeks ago but forgot to announce it: - old old old docs for the AFS file system, which get installed with net-fs/openafs USE=doc anyways - not touched since 2005 - unmaintained Was this posted to -dev-announce as I see nothing there? Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 18:43, Petteri Räty wrote: Jesús Guerrero wrote: Hello, This is a request for comments on a new project, namely Gentoo Support Everywhere. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ New projects must be announced via gentoo-dev-announce and I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Jesús Guerrero wrote: Hello, This is a request for comments on a new project, namely Gentoo Support Everywhere. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ New projects must be announced via gentoo-dev-announce and I haven't see a mail although project pages exist. Also I don't see how this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Petteri Räty
A lot has changed from Baselayout version 1.x to 2.0.0, so all users should take a look at the upgrade guide found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml to not break their systems. You will likely see an update of sys-apps/baselayout in the near future: After

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org: there is no set date, but I want to post a GLEP 42 news item before the actual stabilisation. Maybe other channels like the web page can carry that news then, too. Please comment the attached news item. Vapier wanted

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-22 Thread Petteri Räty
William Hubbs wrote: All, I need some opinions about accessibility on our release media. I am requesting that we add the following to all of our release media for amd64 and x86: app-accessibility/espeak (with portaudio in use so it supports alsa) app-accessibility/espeakup

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media

2009-05-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Andrew Gaffney wrote: On 05/24/2009 05:32 AM, Roy Bamford wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.05.24 02:44, William Hubbs wrote: [snip] Random reply to thread William Hubbs gentoo accessibility team lead willi...@gentoo.org Put all the downloads for a minimal

[gentoo-dev] New feature for python eclass for review

2009-05-25 Thread Petteri Räty
I wrote support to the python eclass to make sure python version used to install has support for needed use flags. With current EAPIs I can't think of a way to do this without a pkg_setup check but feel free to surprise me. Regards, Petteri Index: python.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regarding Gentoo CDs and accessibility sizes

2009-05-25 Thread Petteri Räty
Andrew Gaffney wrote: On 05/25/2009 07:44 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: Hello, I'm afraidd I'm not seeing the size issues. Adding Speech to a LiveCD should not effect the operations of the minimal installation CDs that much. However, one thing I would suggest is to please be aware of two things:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-geosciences/osm2mp

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Hanno Böck wrote: osm2mp was a tool needed for conversion of openstreetmap maps into an intermediate format, which could be used for further conversion into garmin maps with mkgmap. Latest versions of mkgmap accept osm files as an input, osm2mp is not maintained and imho not of any use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-analyzer/ns and net-analyzer/nam

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Federico Ferri wrote: # Federico Ferri mescali...@gentoo.org (26 May 2008) # Deprecated cause depending on unmaintained dev-tcltk/otcl. # Everything being moved to 'abandonware' overlay. # Possible replacement: net-misc/gns3 (sunrise overlay) # Going for removal in ~30 days if no one objects.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? I don't see the main tree referring to other repositories any time soon so this is not a pressing issue. But as said earlier this makes sense for /etc/portage stuff so

Re: [gentoo-dev] New feature for python eclass for review

2009-05-27 Thread Petteri Räty
Petteri Räty wrote: I wrote support to the python eclass to make sure python version used to install has support for needed use flags. With current EAPIs I can't think of a way to do this without a pkg_setup check but feel free to surprise me. Regards, Petteri No comments so committed

[gentoo-dev] New variables to control python.eclass

2009-05-27 Thread Petteri Räty
If you need python compiled with certain use flags, there's now better support for checking those in the python eclass. The variables are: PYTHON_USE_WITH PYTHON_USE_WITH_OR PYTHON_USE_WITH_OPT For details on usage re-emerge eclass-manpages and see man python.eclass. Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch to remove JAVA_PKG_VNEED support from java-utils-2.eclass

2009-05-31 Thread Petteri Räty
Alistair Bush wrote: This patch removes the functionality within java-utils-2.eclass to record and pass to java-config old style virtuals. This functionality is not utilized within any repo that I know about and is _most probably_ horribly broken anyway. _ALL_ ebuilds that are using this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format

2009-06-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Doug Goldstein wrote: All, The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense coming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Old eclasses - candidates for removal?

2009-06-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: In last week's council meeting a policy for removal of old eclasses has been defined: , | The council voted that to remove eclasses devs should take the | following steps: |1) Deprecate eclasses. |2) Removal of all functionality relating to installing. |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Old eclasses - candidates for removal?

2009-06-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Ulrich Mueller wrote: ... A quick scan shows that the following eclasses were deprecated more than three years ago, and are used by no ebuild in the tree: 2002-05-25 inherit.eclass 2003-12-11 kde-i18n.eclass 2004-04-16

Re: [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: To count into the same bucket we use global identifiers for the products that fall out of a package. Gentoo package dev-util/git can produce product cpe://a:git:git, Debian's git-core can, too. That string before is a CPE URI [1], a concept close to package naming

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Hi folks, This is a summary of how to detect Baselayout-2/OpenRC from within init.d scripts. We raised it in January, without any actual final agreement: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_5959bcfaf3ba566c551823039643f5c5.xml How about we don't do runtime

Re: [gentoo-dev] Screenshot contest 2009

2009-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Markos Chandras wrote: Hello fellow devs, Back in 2007 , a screenshot contest took place[1]. How about running a second one this year? As a quick draft, the following rules may apply 1) Users can submit only one screenshot 2) The deadline will be the 30th of July 2009 3) Developers

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Sebastian Pipping wrote: To count into the same bucket we use global identifiers for the products that fall out of a package. Gentoo package dev-util/git can produce product cpe://a:git:git, Debian's git-core can, too. That string before is a CPE

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-13 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: I mean making metadata.xml the authoritative source for mapping CPE to Gentoo packages. I don't want to see the situation when adding new packages to the tree would need some mapping being done in an external web service. Well, it's a nothing

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Can I have a few more voices on this?: Would you clearly feel more comfortable and motivated to contribute to PackageMap if it works at your distro's source package? You are somewhat missing the point. My point is that most developers probably don't want to care

Re: [gentoo-dev] [gsoc-status] portage backend for PackageKit

2009-06-15 Thread Petteri Räty
Mounir Lamouri wrote: So, where are we right now ? The planning says every basic features should be done June 15th. Actually, I still have to do 2 features : list update candidates and do update. Every other basic features (install, remove, sync, details, dep, reverse-dep, groups, ...) have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Denis Dupeyron wrote: probably belongs in -project. Not even in -project, it simply wasn't public mailing-list material. For those who haven't understood yet, the -dev and -project mailing lists are not for keeping us informed of your random thought of the day or lamenting about

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project PackageMap

2009-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Sebastian Pipping wrote: I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. Okay, let's add support for CPEs at distro package level and sync up and down with the central packagemap database. Please contact me for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Illegal news item name

2009-06-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Dale wrote: Zac Medico wrote: Vlastimil Babka wrote: The question is what to do now, rename it? Users will then see it again, and I don't know if there are even worse consequences. AFAIK, seeing it again is the worst that will happen. The cvs - rsync script will ensure that the incorrectly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Thomas Anderson wrote: (This is late because I was traveling and dev-zero is/was on devaway.) This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:20:09 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Allowing him to proxy in a council meeting is both disallowed (non-gentoo devs cannot be on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:00:35 +0300 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 16:25:11 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:45:29 +0300 Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org wrote: Display-If-Installed: kde-base/kdelibs Really?

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2009-07-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Ben de Groot wrote: Raúl Porcel wrote: Since i don't have too much time nor motivation to fix packages(i prefer doing arch work), i'm asking someone to take the following packages, i'm dumping them to net-p2p atm, but its just Betelgeuse and me, so feel free to maintain them. net-p2p/deluge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please stop requesting keywords for arches you don't have

2009-07-12 Thread Petteri Räty
Raúl Porcel wrote: Hi guys, Since there is always new people joining Gentoo, many of these people tend to open keyword requests for a lot of arches on a package they maintain or they are interested in until me or any other member of alternative arches scream to them :) . Seems like you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 deprecation

2009-07-28 Thread Petteri Räty
Ben de Groot wrote: Dear fellow devs, We would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Gentoo Qt team now officially discourages further usage of Qt3. Version 3 is no longer being developed or supported upstream. All users are strongly encouraged to use Qt version 4 where

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Moving ssl from individual profile make.defaults to base

2009-07-31 Thread Petteri Räty
I run: find /usr/portage/profiles/ -name make.defaults -exec grep ssl {} + It seems quite a few profiles enable ssl. To me it seems makes sense to enable it by default in base instead. If any profiles want it off by default they can start disabling it. Any objections? Regards, Petteri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Keeping profiles/ tidy

2009-08-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Samuli Suominenssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: I've just closed http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105016. But bugs like these shouldn't be around in the first place. When you remove a package from tree, please grep the profiles/

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Deprecation of Python 2.4

2009-08-30 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: Python 2.4 is deprecated. There are plans to mask for removal it when remaining packages incompatible with Python 2.5 are fixed. (We will announce masking of Python 2.4 at least 1 month before masking it.) Please don't add new packages to the tree

[gentoo-dev] Road towards EAPI 3 main tree approval

2009-08-30 Thread Petteri Räty
As many of you know EAPI 3 has been waiting for Portage to implement it for many months now and I asked zmedico for his estimate on whether it will be done this year: 19:50 Betelgeuse zmedico: Let's put it this way. How likely in percentages is EAPI 2 this year? 19:50 Betelgeuse s/2/3/ 19:51

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-19 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-09-19 20:20:10 AllenJB napisał(a): Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 19:06, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: What is the point of stabilizing it if users shouldn't use it as main interpreter? Just leave it in ~arch until it can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Alex Alexander wrote: *On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 23:21, Robert Bridge rob...@robbieab.com wrote: So the question isn't SHOULD python-3 be stabilised, it's what will break if it is surely? There seems to be a misunderstanding on what will happen if/when python 3 gets stabilized. The short

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI and system packages

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Ryan Hill wrote: (Yes, this has EAPI in the title, so that means everyone will chime in) I'd like to clarify and (eventually) set in stone our ideas of best practices when it comes to bumping EAPI for system packages. I was of the belief that we had decided that system packages should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-20 Thread Petteri Räty
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2009-09-20 16:44:09 Jesús Guerrero napisał(a): On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:09:38 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 19:06, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote: What is the point of stabilizing it if users shouldn't use it

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: jpeg upgrade news item

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Josh Sled wrote: Display-If-Installed: media-libs/jpeg media-libs/jpeg-7, perhaps? Yes there should be such a restriction to avoid hitting people who have already upgraded. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: jpeg upgrade news item

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Dawid Węgliński wrote: People may have upgraded but not have followed the advice in the news item. If they had upgraded, they also probably have it fixed already. So for everybody it's obvious how to fix it? If you argue like this, then you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: opengl-manpages, xorg-docs, xorg-sgml-doctools

2009-09-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Samuli Suominen wrote: Łukasz P. Michalik wrote: Oh, so there was a change in dependencies without a revbump? Package managers have always picked up dep. changes without revbump. -Samuli s/Package managers have/Portage has/ Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

[gentoo-dev] Unused ebuild built_with_use cleanup

2009-09-29 Thread Petteri Räty
I wrote a script to check which ebuilds use built_with_use and have keywords in never versions making the ebuild unused. This means that neither arch or ~arch users are likely to install the ebuild. The script and the list of ebuilds is attached. I plan on removing all these ebuilds two weeks from

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Xorg 1.6/libxcb 1.4 stabilization news item

2009-10-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Rémi Cardona wrote: Le 02/10/2009 09:43, Ulrich Mueller a écrit : On Fri, 02 Oct 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: We're pleased to announce the stabilization of xorg-server-1.6. Users are strongly encouraged to read the following two guides before upgrading: GLEP 42 says that you should wrap

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