[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Bo Ørsted Andresen (zlin)

2008-03-02 Thread Steve Long
Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 14:28 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: >> He has been breaking the tree for a while now but as Calchan has been >> having availability problems I get to insult him a little bit later than >> usual. Bo hails from Aalborg, Denmark. He studies to become a con

[gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 -> x86_64

2008-03-02 Thread Steve Long
Fabian Groffen wrote: > Ben de Groot wrote: >> Bernd Steinhauser wrote: >> | Wouldn't it be more clean if it is amd64 just like the Linux one? >> | Because the arch basically is the same. I think that >> | amd64(-linux) -- x86_64-fbsd >> | x86(-linux) -- x86-fbsd >> | >> | would be more confusing t

[gentoo-dev] Re: The future of ebuild

2008-02-24 Thread Steve Long
Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2/20/08, Felipe Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > b) Error are difficult to handle since bash doesn't have exceptions >> >> I disagree here: most errors are fatal anyway any non fata

[gentoo-dev] Re: My project && Gentoo

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Long
Oleg Puchinin wrote: > Hello! > I develop project SilentBob ( http://silentbob.sf.net ). > I would like to see SilentBob in Gentoo. > Somebody can help me with it? > > Oleg. Bug as mentioned, #gentoo-dev-help #bash and ##workingset on irc.freenode.org for help, then once it's maintainer-wanted,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] global useflags

2008-02-14 Thread Steve Long
Peter Volkov wrote: > ? ???, 13/02/2008 ? 21:38 +0100, Markus Meier ?: >> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:13:09 +0100 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: >> > > css: Enables ripping of encrypted DVDs >> > >> > Are we sure that nothing intends css as Cascading Style Sheet? >> >> ap

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-util/eclipse-sdk: eclipse-sdk-3.2.1-r2.ebuild ChangeLog eclipse-sdk-3.3.1.1.ebuild

2008-01-23 Thread Steve Long
Ryan Hill wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 12:15 Mon 21 Jan , Jean-Noel Rivasseau (elvanor) wrote: >>> # No warnings / Java 5 / all output should be directed to stdout >>> find "${S}" -type f -name '*.xml' -exec \ >>> sed -r -e "s:(-encoding ISO-8859-1):\1 -nowarn:g" -e "s:(\"compilerArg\

[gentoo-dev] Re: rgb file specification

2008-01-19 Thread Steve Long
Ferris McCormick wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > This is random musing based based on perhaps my own problems. > I need a local color.file to see well what I have going on, and > current xorg ignores that. Thus, at every build, there is in > oscolor.c a "constant"

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Long
Joe Peterson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +0000, Steve Long wrote: >> Ryan Hill wrote: >>> I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children >>> are a bit too private. >>> >> ++ in general although I do think parent

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Long
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:56:36AM +0000, Steve Long wrote: >> Ryan Hill wrote: >> > I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and >> > children are a bit too private. >> > >> ++ in general although I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Seeking questions for a user survey

2008-01-17 Thread Steve Long
Ryan Hill wrote: > I agree, though year of birth might be interesting. Income and children > are a bit too private. > ++ in general although I do think parenthood (if responsible) is as relevant as age. A 28 year old with a 5 year old kid has a lot to show a 35 year old doctoral student with no k

[gentoo-dev] Re: Introducing new lead for xfce herd and project.

2008-01-16 Thread Steve Long
Samuli Suominen wrote: > Since dostrow is being retired or is retired, correct me if I'm wrong > we decided (actually we rolled dices :-) that welp is the new lead. > Congrats welp! :D Can I have my `lucky' dice back now? ;P -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] RE: Re: Item for 10 Jan 2008 Council meeting

2008-01-11 Thread Steve Long
Chrissy Fullam wrote: >> Ferris McCormick wrote: >> With all due respect, for some reason we don't have Proctors >> anymore to enforce the CoC. Thus, things we would expect the >> proctors to catch and handle under CoC get sent to devrel >> instead. All I am doing is wondering out loud (now that

[gentoo-dev] Re: OpenRC available for testing.

2008-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Santiago M. Mola wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008 11:40 AM, Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 10:18 +, Richard Brown wrote: >> > While this thread remains highly entertaining, I'm sure as a past >> > gentoo developer Roy remembers that we don't generally use gentoo-dev >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: OpenRC available for testing.

2008-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > So, the question is, do we want to maintain one massive KV_to_int that > has different code paths for uname -s output, or get function.sh to > include an OS specific file we supply just for this one function? > > Or just put the function in modules-update and udev as they are

[gentoo-dev] Re: Random items I'd like to discuss

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Long
Luca Barbato wrote: > Some items I have in wishlist > > - LRDEPEND link runtime dep (I need to link against that in order to run) I heartily concur with a link dependency, since it's such a fundamental relationship between packages: if A links to B we need to recompile A when the ABI for B chang

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Eclasses (Was: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2])

2007-12-29 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:21:06 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Whatever. EAPI="2" works fine with current software. Could you tell >> me why you're so hot on export'ing EAPI? I thought it was only >> relev

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Some new global USE-flags

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Long
Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> branding: Enable Gentoo specific branding >> [questionable, as used for splashes/shortcuts/artwork] > > Well, my personal opinion here is that we should enable this by default > on *at least* the desktop profiles, as providing sensible defaults and > branding isn't outs

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Long
another contrived b0rkage. You really don't have a very high opinion of Gentoo devs, do you? > EAPI="1" > export EAPI=2 > > src_compile() { > cat < somefile > EAPI=3 > END > } > All those would be dealt with by the well-defined syntax. I'd s

[gentoo-dev] Re: Eclasses (Was: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2])

2007-12-27 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:52:53 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + >> > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> * Set the EAPI inside th

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:29:25 +0100 >> The majority of devs don't want to know how portage or paludis work >> internally, that's not what interests most of us. > > Which is fine. But then, the majority of devs shouldn't expect to be > able to provide opinions when it comes

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-24 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:03:12 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> * Set the EAPI inside the ebuild in a way that makes it easy to >> fetch it This is ok as atm only EAPI=1 is in the tree, so there is no >> backward compati

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) [2]

2007-12-23 Thread Steve Long
Piotr Jaroszy?ski wrote: > Hello, > > I have updated the GLEP, hopefully it is less confusing now and hence the > discussion will be more technical. > Based on your summary of the suggestions on the list, I believe you misunderstood what many of us were arguing for. * Set the EAPI inside the e

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI placement

2007-12-23 Thread Steve Long
Carsten Lohrke wrote: > On Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> * Eclasses may not set EAPI. >> >> * Eclasses may not assume a particular EAPI. > > I disagree here. It would be annoying and possibly even hindering in > future not being able to use higher EAPI features in eclasses

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer : Richard Freeman (rich0)

2007-12-23 Thread Steve Long
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > Richard is married and has two children. Yay a parent! (How many are there? I can only think of Neddy..) > So please everybody, give a warm welcome to Richard. > Well done Rich :D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-23 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sat, 22 Dec 2007 06:35:07 > +: > >> Oh yeah I forgot, McCreesh thinks they're all idiots[1], so let's just >> do what he says. > >> [1] >> ht

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes

2007-12-21 Thread Steve Long
Piotr Jaroszy?ski wrote: > On Saturday 22 of December 2007 02:41:02 Petteri Räty wrote: >> Piotr Jaroszy?ski kirjoitti: >> > This GLEP proposes usage of EAPI-suffixed file extensions for ebuilds >> > (for example, foo-1.2.3.ebuild-1). >> >> It seems many people don't like the idea of having it in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > our users -- Gentoo sysadmins by another name. THANK YOU! Finally someone said it (and explained it better than I could.) All our users-- the ones who deal with the glitches that can arise in a source distro which binary users never see-- have the skill level of an admin anywhere

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Steve Long
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Friday 21 December 2007 03:41:04 Luca Barbato wrote: >> > * We have to wait a year before we can use it. >> >> We have to wait till we got a new release and I hope it isn't 12months. > > And then we have to wait till noone use a version of portage that sources > the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-21 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:48:31 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> No: without knowing the EAPI when generating said data. If that >> >> needs to be known relatively soon in order to generate the rest, >> >> e

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:07:35 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Do you think a generated EAPI is a good idea? I'm curious as to >> how that would be reflected in the filename (as well as your reasons >> ofc.) > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> >> Are you really telling me you are going to write _one_ ebuild >> >> with /that/ god-awful hackery in it? >> > >> > Are you really suggesting that no-one ever will? >> > >> They won't if the spec and the docs say it's restricted to a single >> instance, which can be che

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:26:16 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are you really telling me you are going to write _one_ ebuild >> with /that/ god-awful hackery in it? > > Are you really suggesting that no-one ever will? > Th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-19 Thread Steve Long
Fernando J. Pereda wrote: >> > Why can't it be in the file but readable without sourcing? >> > >> There's _no_ need to source, nor constrain like that, for a simple >> one-line variable, eg: >> $ sed -nr '/^[[:space:]]*DESCRIPTION="([^"]*)".*/ { s//\1/p;q; }' \ >> app-portage/autounmask/autoun

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-18 Thread Steve Long
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On 2007/12/18, Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:10:46 -0700 >> Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I probably missed some of the stuff leading up to this GLEP, but >> > what is the problem with having the EAPI in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-video/undvd: undvd-0.3.0.ebuild metadata.xml ChangeLog Manifest

2007-12-17 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 16 Dec 2007 > 12:49:13 -0800: > >> I think it's valuable to show the flags that actually need to be changed >> rather than a full list of all required flags. > > ++ > I messed about on some

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-wireless/hostapd: ChangeLog hostapd-0.4.9.ebuild hostapd-0.6.1.ebuild hostapd-0.6.0.ebuild

2007-12-14 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: >> Personally I prefer using embedded multiline echo: >> echo ' >> CONFIG_FOO >> CONFIG_BAR >> CONFIG_BLAH >> ' >> "$CONFIG" > > the point of using cat with <<- is so that it wont look like crap when you > put > it into the ebuild. you can use normal tab indentation. an ech

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Long
Peter Volkov wrote: > ? ???, 13/12/2007 ? 10:52 +0000, Steve Long ?: >> Peter Volkov wrote: >> > Speaking about the >> > latter it is: >> > >> > 1. Modify eclass to use arrays: >> > >> > for conffile in [EMAIL PROTECTED]; d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-wireless/hostapd: ChangeLog hostapd-0.4.9.ebuild hostapd-0.6.1.ebuild hostapd-0.6.0.ebuild

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007, Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> On Dec 11, 2007 6:03 AM, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Monday 10 December 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > > { >> > > ... >> > > echo "CONFIG_EAP_SAKE=y" >> > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: How to pass list of paths to eclass?

2007-12-13 Thread Steve Long
Peter Volkov wrote: > Thank you all, for your responds. > > Currently I see that the best approach is arrays. They provide required > functionality, clear syntax and easy upgrade path. ++ > Speaking about the > latter it is: > > 1. Modify eclass to use arrays: > > for conffile in [EMAIL PROTE

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] scm package version suffix

2007-12-10 Thread Steve Long
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007 8:44 PM, Robert Buchholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That would still mean everything relies on n ebuilds with mutual blocks. >> Even if that would work and it block upgrades, it is still not a >> solution in terms of how to display a list of ebuilds in

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: categorizing RDEPEND to help --newuse

2007-12-07 Thread Steve Long
Petteri Räty wrote: > Please comment on my ideas in > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201499 > http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=137968&action=view seems to be the draft spec. I'd like to put in a request for a "link" dependency which is covered atm by build,target i guess. compile-

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass osgi.eclass

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Long
Alistair Bush wrote: > Im sure Elvanor can't wait for you constructive feedback on his eclass > and depending on your feedback the eclass will enter the tree this > weekend. > A couple of very minor performance points, which I think are more significant in eclasses. Firstly the basename thing Donni

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 > 12:40:58 +0100: > >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> How the recent changes happened to allow USE flag descriptions in >>> metadata.xml (which I'm not taking any position on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Ranged licenses

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Long
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Is this something worth pinching for a future EAPI? If we go with the >> postfix [] form for ranged deps, it'd translate into: >> LICENSE="=GPL-2" (or equivalently, LICENSE="GPL[=2]") >> LICENSE="|| ( GPL[>=2] BSD )" (

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-19 Thread Steve Long
Steve Long wrote: > No, that's about the size of it-- if you you'd like to tie it to ASCII, > irrespective of locale, that's fair enough. > I had a feeling this statement was incorrect (what zlin said about a-z) so I asked dalias in #bash who is knowledgeable about locale

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer: Justin Bronder (jsbronder)

2007-11-18 Thread Steve Long
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > Duncan Coutts wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 14:40 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> It's my usual please to announce a new ebuild monkey. Justin hails from >>> Brighton, Massachusetts. His educational background should provide a >>> good theoretical approach to all t

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Steve Long wrote: >>> Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? >>> >> Yes, all POSIX character classes listed here are: >> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html > > Thanks for a nice link. If I read section 7.3.1 c

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libevent: ChangeLog libevent-1.3e.ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Steve Long
Jan Kundrát wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> if [[ -n "${ver}" ]] && [[ ${ver//[a-zA-Z-]} != "${PV//[a-zA-Z]}" ]] ; >>> then >> >> It isn't terribly likely to become an issue here, but it might be nicer >> to use [[:alpha:]] than [a-zA-Z]. > > Is [[:alpha:]] locale-safe? > Yes, all POSIX char

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-12 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:43:49 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Which is just as bad. >> > >> No, it's better for the reason given: it doesn't require login as >> root. > > And it's still chec

[gentoo-dev] Re: to patch or sed was -> repoman and checking for correct quoting

2007-11-11 Thread Steve Long
William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 18:36 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 11:51:37AM +0100, Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: >> > It's purpose is to remove the ${D} from makefile, additionally ${D} is >> > in single quotes, so it will not be expanded - is it a bu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-11 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:22:48 + > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > if [[ ${UID} -ne 0 ]]; then >> > >> > We've always told people not to do that. Capabilities required by >> > eselect modules should be te

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eclass: cmake-utils.eclass

2007-11-08 Thread Steve Long
René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote: > cmake-utils_src_enable python => -DENABLE_python=... > > Wanted would be that it returned -DENABLE_PYTHON=... > > I'm not into bash scripting that much, so I do not know a way to do so - > but I guess someone else is ;) > Unfortunately BASH doesn't support ksh93 or

[gentoo-dev] Re: eselect_zenity: alpha eselect GUI

2007-11-08 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > if [[ ${UID} -ne 0 ]]; then > > We've always told people not to do that. Capabilities required by > eselect modules should be tested by attempting to perform the action, > not by some arbitrary query done on UIDs or groups. Being UID 0 doesn't > mean you're allowed to do

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI feature suggestion: OBSOLETES (was: gentoo-x86 commit in profiles/updates: 4Q-2007)

2007-11-07 Thread Steve Long
Jim Ramsay wrote: > Whether or not 'move' was the correct action in the recent compiz > example, perhaps we need to consider that some times one package does > actually make another obsolete. The correct thing for the PM to > do is to first uninstall the obsolete package, then install the new one.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: More general interface to use flags

2007-11-06 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: > On 11/4/07, Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One minor thing; -n is the default test, so: >> [[ $1 ]] is the same as [[ -n $1 ]] >> and: >> [[ ! $1 ]] is the same as [[ -z $1 ]] >> ''help test'' is very reve

[gentoo-dev] Re: More general interface to use flags

2007-11-04 Thread Steve Long
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > the current interface to use flags, useq, usev, use_with, use_enable, as > defined in /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh lacks generality. The common > thing is testing a use flag and possibly echoing a string, but there is no > function that implements this common beha

[gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX shell and "portable"

2007-11-03 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 01:19 +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> Please stop calling it "more portable". The shell code you see in >> configure can in a way be called "portable". Your POSIX compliant stuff >> isn't. In fact, by stating #!/bin/sh you actually make the code useles

[gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag transition: tetex and latex

2007-11-01 Thread Steve Long
Alexis Ballier wrote: > Hi, > >> What are we going to do with the global tetex USE flag? >> app-text/tetex is deprecated in favour of TeXLive which is still hard >> masked but will be the default TeX distribution in the future. >> Rename it to tex as TeXLive is based on teTeX? And what about >> U

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-admin/webmin: ChangeLog webmin-1.370-r1.ebuild

2007-11-01 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 10:36 Tue 30 Oct , Roy Marples (uberlord) wrote: >> (find . -name '*.cgi' ; find . -name '*.pl') | perl perlpath.pl >> /usr/bin/perl - > > Please don't tell me the -or find flag isn't POSIX so we can't use it... > It's GNU, but why on Earth they saw fit to break scr

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-29 Thread Steve Long
Natanael Copa wrote: > On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 06:46 +0000, Steve Long wrote: > >> Failing that, a plaintext config file along the lines discussed in [1] >> would be cool. awk could parse it pretty quickly. >> >> [1] http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b//archives/2007/01/20/

[gentoo-dev] Re: Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-29 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > I've not opted for another config format (either based on Debians or > something else) as this doesn't rock the baselayout-2 boat that much as > it's a fairly trivial patch. Once we have baselayout-2 stable then we > can think about revisiting this for future versions if there

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Opinions Wanted - Arrays again :)

2007-10-27 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 16:36 +, Duncan wrote: >> Well, several services already have a "basic" setup using named vars, >> then something like Richard's suggested Options_eth0= as a (normally >> commented) catch-all for anything advanced that the admin wishes to pass >> "raw

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-22 Thread Steve Long
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 23:13:58 +0100 > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well the line from portage_versions.py is: >> ver_regexp = re.compile("^(cvs\\.)?(\\d+)((\\.\\d+)*)([a-z]?)((_(pre| >> p|beta >> alpha|rc)\\d*)*)(-r(\

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-21 Thread Steve Long
Marius Mauch wrote: > But like name_splitted.cpp is buggy as it assumes that a dash followed > by a digit starts the version part. See > echo ${PORTDIR}/*-*/* | tr ' ' '\n' | grep '\-[[:digit:]]' > for some names that break the assumption. > Whoops :S Guess I need to change that then :) > And n

[gentoo-dev] Re: repoman - I cannot handle it...

2007-10-21 Thread Steve Long
Markus Rothe wrote: > Attached are the scripts I use to commit packages stable/unstable. > Somewhere must be a bug! > > 'name_split.cpp' splits a package name like sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2 into > category, package name and version number. It's done in c++ as that's the > only language I do more with t

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-php5/onphp: ChangeLog onphp-0.10.6.ebuild onphp-0.10.4.ebuild onphp-0.10.3.ebuild

2007-10-17 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 10:15 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> OK, that's all good, and you're _right_ for this case. I guess I was >> trying to show an array being used since it came up before. For instance, >> I often add to a global array with e

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-php5/onphp: ChangeLog onphp-0.10.6.ebuild onphp-0.10.4.ebuild onphp-0.10.3.ebuild

2007-10-17 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 13:38 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >> > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:28 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >> On 08:19 Tue 16 Oct , Steve Long wrote: >> >> > stdDocs=(ChangeLog AUTHORS FEATUR

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-php5/onphp: ChangeLog onphp-0.10.6.ebuild onphp-0.10.4.ebuild onphp-0.10.3.ebuild

2007-10-16 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 00:28 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 08:19 Tue 16 Oct , Steve Long wrote: >> > stdDocs=(ChangeLog AUTHORS FEATURES THANKS README CodingStyle TODO FAQ) >> > >> > stdDoc() { >> > local d l=()

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-php5/onphp: ChangeLog onphp-0.10.6.ebuild onphp-0.10.4.ebuild onphp-0.10.3.ebuild

2007-10-16 Thread Steve Long
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: > On 2007/10/14, Drake Wyrm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Or, since you already have the command substitution there, how about: >> >> dodoc `find doc -maxdepth 1 -type f` > > Or even better, how about explicitly listing the relevant files > (ChangeLog, AUTHO

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/note: ChangeLog note-1.3.3.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > I haven't reread the fine mans for a while but iirc, + could lead you to > hit the argument buffer limit of your shell. xargs has --max-args to get > around that and is also way faster than any -exec variant (at least > that's what the bench I did on a PIV2.6Ghz showe

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/note: ChangeLog note-1.3.3.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 10:43 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 15-10-2007 09:35:35 +0100, Roy Marples wrote: >> > find "${D}" -type f -name *${v}.*pm -delete >> >> Looks like you rely on your shell here to assume that you meant >> "*${v}.*pm" because there is nothing that mat

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-cluster/pvfs2: ChangeLog pvfs2-2.6.3-r1.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Matti Bickel wrote: > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Mixing 'gt' and 'ge' is a bad idea. >> >> >> >> Just outa curiosity, why? >> > >> > Because it's inconsistent and one generally assumes

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/mythtv: ChangeLog mythtv-0.20.2_p14668.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14666.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14480-r1.ebuild

2007-10-15 Thread Steve Long
Doug Goldstein wrote: > I know the other thing I didn't answer was the fact that some variables > aren't quoted. It doesn't matter at all considering their configure > script can't handle spaces in the path names anyway. We've been though > that already. Additionally, qmake can't handle spaces in t

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-cluster/pvfs2: ChangeLog pvfs2-2.6.3-r1.ebuild

2007-10-14 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 23:45 Sat 13 Oct , Drake Wyrm wrote: >> Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On 13:36 Sat 13 Oct , Matti Bickel (mabi) wrote: >> > > if kernel_is gt 2 6 20 ; then >> > > epatch "${FILESDIR}"/${PV}-register_sysctl_table.patch >> > > fi >> > > >> > > if

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/mythtv: ChangeLog mythtv-0.20.2_p14668.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14666.ebuild mythtv-0.21_pre14480-r1.ebuild

2007-10-14 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 00:12 Sun 14 Oct , Doug Goldstein wrote: >> Because if you pass the inverse the script blows up. It's ffmpeg's >> configure script that's a hand written script and modified by the MythTV >> developers. > > Sigh. Any chance of getting things to move to autotools? >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

2007-10-14 Thread Steve Long
Zac Medico wrote: > Steve Long wrote: >> Is there a cut-off for portage atm wrt versions you do not support? >> >> I'm wondering at what point you can say we don't support less than 2.1.2. >> It seems odd that a distro which operates like Gentoo would not c

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: lame use flag, local to global

2007-10-13 Thread Steve Long
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 10:37 +, Duncan wrote: >> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, >> 12 Oct 2007 17:22:54 -0700: >> >> > Steve Long wrote: >

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: gnatbuild.eclass

2007-10-11 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 18:17 Wed 10 Oct , George Shapovalov (george) wrote: >> george 07/10/10 18:17:58 >> >> Modified: gnatbuild.eclass >> >> Log: fixed src_install issue, no longer relies on portage leaking >> env vars between functions > > It's really sad that you have to

[gentoo-dev] Re: lame use flag, local to global

2007-10-11 Thread Steve Long
Duncan wrote: > Steve Dibb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], > excerpted below, on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:55:01 -0600: > >> The reason we have mp3 and lame use flag is because there is more than >> one mp3 encoder. In almost every case of the use flag being applied >> above, there is a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Getting rid of lurking no* USE flags - profile-based package.use

2007-10-11 Thread Steve Long
Zac Medico wrote: >> Plus, once we have this, it looks to me that nobody has to wait for >> EAPI=1 in order to use whatever portage feature that's needed by an >> ebuild. So we can all stop complaining about not having EAPI=1 in the >> form we wanted or at all, and get back to writing ebuilds. >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-09 Thread Steve Long
Natanael Copa wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 20:25 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Natanael Copa wrote: > >> If you're that motivated why not just start hacking on binary support in >> portage/pkgcore/paludis? There's always open bugs. > > I think I did co

[gentoo-dev] Re: GNU userland and binary package (WAS: RFC: sh versionator.eclass)

2007-10-08 Thread Steve Long
Natanael Copa wrote: > On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 06:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: >> On 10/8/07, Natanael Copa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 21:26 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: >> > > Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > > > Fabian has summed it up nicely, thanks. i could care less what >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/qt: ChangeLog qt-4.3.2.ebuild

2007-10-05 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 13:34 Fri 05 Oct , Steve Long wrote: >> In actual fact, I'd be more likely to use parameter expansion than set, >> eg: spec=${CHOST#*-*-} # chop first two fields off so spec is fields 3 on >> spec=${spec%%-*} # chop all but first off

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/qt: ChangeLog qt-4.3.2.ebuild

2007-10-05 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 05:03 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >> > spec=$(echo ${CHOST} | cut -d- -f3) >> > >> You can do this without resort to an external process: >> IFS=- >> read _ _ spec _ &

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-libs/qt: ChangeLog qt-4.3.2.ebuild

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > spec=$(echo ${CHOST} | cut -d- -f3) > You can do this without resort to an external process: IFS=- read _ _ spec _ <<< "$CHOST" unset IFS - or you can do: IFS=- arr=($CHOST) unset IFS spec=${arr[2]} - which is useful if you don't know how many elements there are. (IFS wou

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer : Mike Pagano (mpagano)

2007-10-03 Thread Steve Long
Denis Dupeyron wrote: > Mike is also an > amateur cyclist who logs a bit over 4000 miles a year, with a racing > career that has slowly given away to age. Aww ;) > Yes people, Mike is older > than Uncle Seemant, and even older than me. So kids, please, don't go > and disturb him while he's having

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 17:02 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > wrong. bash and GNU prevail because they provide useful extensions. >> > it may be worthwhile to force `find` in the portage environment to be >> > GNU find so we can stop wasting time tryin

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 19:37 +0100, Steve Long wrote: >> Roy Marples wrote: >> > With [[ ]] you don't need to quote, which encourages people not to >> > bother learning when and when not to quote. >> > >> Ugh, that is so untrue

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > With [[ ]] you don't need to quote, which encourages people not to > bother learning when and when not to quote. > Ugh, that is so untrue imo. In #bash most people don't know [[ and use [ without quoting, as well as leaving out quotes elsewhere. Which is why we beat them over t

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 02 October 2007, Roy Marples wrote: >> I like consistency too, and I'll be pushing for using sh instead of >> forcing bash. > > pushing a new standard by slowly converting the tree is not the way to go. > >> My motivation? Simple. I don't believe that the porta

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: sh versionator.eclass

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Roy Marples wrote: > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 08:35 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: >> After a quick look I wonder how/if it deals with: >> >> 1.01 < 1.1 > > It treats them the same way > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ bash -c '. /usr/portage/eclass/versionator.eclass; > version_compare 1.01 1.1; echo $?' >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for October

2007-10-02 Thread Steve Long
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris Gianelloni wrote: >> On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 21:54 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >>> 1. Due to the tardiness in the election process, there was no council >>> meeting in September. Will this cou

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Quoting patch for repoman

2007-10-01 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2007, Steve Long wrote: >> A place to start might be a list of all known variables from say the >> devmanual, along with whether they're allowed to be used as >> multi-parameters in `for' or function/cmd calls. So it'

[gentoo-dev] Re: Quoting patch for repoman

2007-10-01 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 30 September 2007, Zac Medico wrote: >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > On 04:52 Sat 29 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >> does this work with multilines ? >> >> if [[ -e ${S}/asdfasdfasdf && \ >> >>-f ${WORKDIR}/moo ]] >> >> then >> >> >> >> this is a crappy e

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-python/pygobject: ChangeLog pygobject-2.14.0.ebuild

2007-09-27 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 13:15 Wed 26 Sep , Mart Raudsepp (leio) wrote: >> mv "${D}"/usr/$(get_libdir)/python${PYVER}/site-packages/pygtk.py \ >> "${D}"/usr/$(get_libdir)/python${PYVER}/site-packages/pygtk.py-2.0 >> mv "${D}"/usr/$(get_libdir)/python${PYVER}/site-packages/pygtk.pth \ >> "${

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-portage/genlop: ChangeLog genlop-0.30.8.ebuild

2007-09-27 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 17:53 Wed 26 Sep , Doug Goldstein wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >> > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > also, ebuilds do change over time, so what line # may be correct one >> > day may not be relevant the next ... >> > >> >> Which could bring up a point of would it b

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-doc/gimp-help: ChangeLog gimp-help-0.13.ebuild

2007-09-27 Thread Steve Long
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 05:14 Wed 26 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: >> if it's all common shell, it's pretty hard to hide ... you could try some >> tricks like rewriting USE to __USE__ so internal code (like the `use` >> function) still work, but in the end, does that really help ? > > I thi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-dotnet/libgdiplus: ChangeLog libgdiplus-1.2.5-r1.ebuild

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Long
Steve Long wrote: > Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > >> On Monday 24 September 2007 21:56:49 Donnie Berkholz wrote: >>> > if [[ "$(gcc-major-version)" -gt "3" ]] || \ >>> > ( [[ "$(gcc-major-version)" -eq "3" ]] && [[

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-apps: ChangeLog linuxtv-dvb-apps-1.1.1.20070924.ebuild

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Long
Robert Buchholz wrote: > On Tuesday, 25. September 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 20:04 Mon 24 Sep , Doug Goldstein (cardoe) wrote: >> > if ! use usb; then >> > sed -i util/Makefile \ >> > -e '/ttusb_dec_reset/d' \ >> > -e '/dib3000-watch/d' >> > fi >> > >> > # do not compile test-progs >>

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-dotnet/libgdiplus: ChangeLog libgdiplus-1.2.5-r1.ebuild

2007-09-26 Thread Steve Long
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Monday 24 September 2007 21:56:49 Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > if [[ "$(gcc-major-version)" -gt "3" ]] || \ >> > ( [[ "$(gcc-major-version)" -eq "3" ]] && [[ "$(gcc-minor-version)" -gt >> > "3" ]] ) >> >> Code block { } might be good here instead of a subshell, or per

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