sus may be enough to be considered 'right' in social
situations(politics, etc.), the second the discussion becomes technical the
opinion of the masses becomes irrelevant. All that then matters is getting
the technical part objectively right, which IS possible, despite what some
may say.
Regards,
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Cheers,
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homework) so unless you're
just trying to pick a fight I don't see what you're trying to say. Please don't
do that.
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the one I gave), and I'd say it is worth it.
>
> [1] http://www.exherbo.org/docs/exheres-for-smarties.html#myoptions
>
> Thanks,
> Mounir
>
Regards,
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> > has to die, nonfatal or not, then use a variable. I guess that's #4?
>
> I agree here (yes, I know, a "ME TOO" posting, but I say this as PMS
> team member).
I must agree here too as a PMS team member. so 'me too' :P
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ave to think hard about what else is needed and consult documentation without
knowing exactly what he is looking for. If needed the mentor can help out with
points like that, but if at all possible it should be initially answered by the
recruit.
So please, let's not make the quiz into
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Steven J Long wrote:
> Thomas Anderson wrote:
>
> > Steven J Long wrote:
> >> Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> >>
> >> > This list is for technical discussions only.
> >> I look forward to the day when that
ut, maybe even vote
on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
list to see.
For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
Attached is the preliminary meeting agenda.
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a more professional
> process, and this sub-topic would never have been raised.
See above.
> As it is, this is
> about the level of debate I expected; blame the messenger, and avoid our own
> problems. I am glad there's an election on.
So am I, but your slandering of my platform i
Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The full log along with the
summary will appear shortly at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council.
Regards,
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> Cardoe
>
Thanks Dawid, Mounir, and Tiziano, I accept.
My manifesto is available at [1], please remember to vote for
gentoofan23, not tanderson(irc nick). ;-)
Regards,
Thomas
[1]: http://dev.gentoo.org/~gentoofan23/2009Manifesto/manifesto.html
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Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The full log along
with the summary will appear shortly at
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council
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Thomas
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while
writing a mail, please don't send your undoubtedly unconstructive
comment(or it'll be impossible to wade through the thread looking
for constructive stuff which is the point of the thread).
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look at the those ebuilds. Putting EAPI as the fifth line
completely loses this, so as far as backwards compatibility goes putting
EAPI 55 in the filename really is the cleanest.
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> be being able to support '-scm' as per GLEP-54. What other restrictions
> in the version format are you referring to?
>
> -- Arun
For one, there's the restriction that all *-alpha/*-rc has to be
represented _rc/_alpha. I plan on doing more research into perhaps
lift
; - Repeating a lie can make it true, if you repeat it long enough. Worst case
> you just have to wait until everyone who disagrees dies of old age.
>
Most things people are calling "lies" I'd call more "opinions that I
disagree with". We really do dramatize a
ur attention to bug #269067. In this case,
had the bugwrangler(yngwin) asked for paludis --info the bug could have
been RESO INVALID without it getting to me. I wouldn't have wasted ~30
minutes deciding that the user was being crazy.
So yes, paludis --info can come in handy, and I fou
with a recruiter. It's sort of like a job
interview only it's remote. Once you're a dev you don't have to go on
irc _at all_. It's not going to kill you to do two reviews on irc,
especially given the advantages various people have presented for a
real-time interview.
Reg
ton of
slackers. I'd venture to say most in the project don't actively work on
amd64 at all. We are handling the load fairly well though.
Thomas
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> S="${WORKDIR}/${P}"
You don't need to set this, it's the default.
> filter-flags '-fomit-frame-pointer'
filter-flags in global scope? You should put that in
src_unpack/src_prepare.
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asiest to
remember it as every other thursday.
Thomas
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for getting this adopted.
>
> /loki_val
Why are we trying to get rid of static libraries again? I have not seen
any compelling reason to remove libraries that may be useful to our
users. Perhaps I've missed some discussion(in which case, I'd love to
read it), but this seems
;ll just
prolong the acceptance of EAPI 3, and we all know we don't want that.
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venture on IRC, yet do a lot of good
work. As far as ATs go, it's not a necessity to be on IRC; pretty much
the only communication that occurs in #-amd64-dev is coordination of
stabilization efforts and goofing off(and the occasional xfce dev talks
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onfigure is just one part; src_compile has uses as does
src_install. In fact, if you want to do patches, src_prepare would be in
there too. What I'm saying is that focusing on the one part(configure)
is ignoring the good part of the rest of the proposal.
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ve no idea because 1)
we don't get assigned any bug with our keyword in it. 2) We don't run
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y.(c is the worst).
Oh, And I certainly hope this is not Democracy(you know what they say,
democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding who to have for dinner)
Looking forward to the council meeting, where there will *hopefully* be
a decision.
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>
No, it's unacceptable because stable users do not need that kind of
stuff thrown at them. Stable users use stable because they want a very
predictable workflow. Noisy errors that shouldn't affect them(they are
in the stable branch) *is* unacceptable, and not just because it
ll that changes is that the EAPI goes at
the end of the filename and you don't set it in the ebuild. Developers
should be able to keep up with this, and if a user asks it's easy enough
to say that "it's a new version of ebuild, it has newer features see
www.blah.org/blah for de
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
> Hello,
> app-vim/exheres-syntax
I can take this one, I use it every day.
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for a *new* EAPI.
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On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 06:37:35PM +0100, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:56:15 +
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>
> > What would really benefit Gentoo would be able to have the package
> > manager aware of [...]
>
> I am sure you know of one that would provide... :)
>
>
> jer
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 02:23:48PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Please submit all comments, as long as they are not "I don't like XML"
> or "XML is the wrong answer" and similar since the point here is not to
> discuss the format of metadata but rather where to have it.
XML is the wro
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 03:39:12PM +0300, Peter Volkov wrote:
> В Сбт, 08/11/2008 в 17:20 -0500, Thomas Anderson пишет:
> > This is a reposting of a call for discussion on DEFAULT_* variables.
> > The original discussion was at [1].
> 1. Functions we have now are much more flex
t; || echo
"--disable-mp3"`. In other words, not all cases where you move
thinsg to the PM are bad.
Credit for this idea goes to those who made the exheres package
format(used for the Exherbo linux distribution) and those who
participated in the discu
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 09:20:07PM +0100, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Peter Alfredsen schrieb:
> Do you really think, a package that supports parallel make while compiling
> fails support for
> parallel make support on install?
Happened for jabberd and jabberd2 to me.
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> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 01:36:29PM -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:22:26PM +, Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) wrote:
> > > src_install() {
> > > doman bti.1
> > > dobin
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:22:26PM +, Greg Kroah-Hartman (gregkh) wrote:
> # Copyright 1999-2008 Gentoo Foundation
> # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
> # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/net-misc/bti/bti-007.ebuild,v 1.1
> 2008/10/26 17:22:26 gregkh Exp $
>
>
On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 11:44:10PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200
> Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Please people,
> >
> >
> >if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it.
>
> So, no, I'll continue using package.mask for testing just
>
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 08:18:05AM +0200, Vaeth wrote:
> Steve Long wrote:
>
> > Thomas Sachau wrote: [...]
> >
> > > [[ -n ${DOCS} ]] && dodoc ${DOCS}
> [...]
> >
> > It might be wise to use an array for DOCS there
>
> Since I have now seen suggestions for using arrays unnecessarily
> at least
Hi,
Currently we have a lot of:
src_configure() {
econf $(use_enable dvdr) \
$(use_with ipv6 ssl) \
--with-system-zlib
}
Introducing(Idea shamelessly take
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 12:43:12PM +0100, Steve Long wrote:
> Christian Faulhammer wrote:
>
> > Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Both approaches are essentially equivalent but it's a little simpler
> >> for ebuild writer if they don't have to customize the output file
> >> name.
> >
> > One
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:31:17PM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote:
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> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> [...]
> > The benefit is that it's a logically separate action, and will avoid
> > all the silliness of people repeatedly changing their minds about
> > whi
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:18:05PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Getting the bot out there
> -
> If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
> each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
> channel name, and that they a
Hi,
Currently we have default_* functions implemented in
portage(paludis has these too)
which allow the default implementation of a particular phase
to be called. Another handy function in the default_* series is
function 'default' which simply calls the def
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:44:24AM +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> app-admin/tmpwatch -- low maintenance
>
I can take this one.
> dev-cpp/libthrowable,
> app-portage/gatt -- very cooperative upstream for both (mlangc for
> both)
>
I can also take these two as well, as I use them for
On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 12:26:13AM +0100, Tony Chainsaw Vroon wrote:
> > 2) If you had your way, would you discourage users from filing early
> > version bump requests?
> Just an idea:
> How about a metadata.xml tag that indicates whether early bump requests are
> welcome?
> It's more of an indivi
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Add missing eutils inherit for the non-git ebuilds as otherwise it seems to
> be failing.
> (Portage version: 2.2_rc1/cvs/Linux 2.6.25-gentoo-r4 x86_64)
>
The reason it's failing is because you have things after the . You
can do this:
if [[ ${PV} == *99
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:24:34AM +, Josh Glover (jmglov) wrote:
> LICENSE="Intel"
Check configure output, GPL-2 license is enabled if v4l and/or xine USE
flags are on.
> SLOT="0"
> KEYWORDS="~x86"
> IUSE="ffmpeg gtk ieee1394 python swig v4l v4l2 xine"
>
> DEPEND="
> dev-util/pkgconfig
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:11:51PM +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:34:56 -0400
>> Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'd honestly like to see an official PMS project page i.e.
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pms/
>> There's http://www.gen
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:16:05PM -0700, Brian Harring wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:00:16PM +0100, David Leverton wrote:
> > On Thursday 12 June 2008 02:46:03 Jim Ramsay wrote:
> > > David Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Since at least one ebuild has already been modified specif
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:23:59AM +0100, Richard Brown wrote:
> Also, I think you seem to be suggesting that gentoo is so well tested
> that once something's marked stable, there's no point in testing it.
A very good point. Just last week the *stable* perl cairo bindings were
broken by a x11-libs
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:26:53PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:18:01 +0200
> Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The people who wrote PMS should be able to make the decision
> > > for themselves(as they will be maintaining it) as to what language
> > > to use.
>
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:00:52PM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 09-06-2008 11:49:35 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:50:11 +0200
> >> Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So how, specifically, is PMS "wrongly written", and why hasn't
>
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:03:33AM +0200, Krzysiek Pawlik wrote:
> * net-im/jabberd & net-im/jabberd2 - thanks to work from Marko Durkovic
> both are easy to maintain
I can take jabberd(maybe jabberd2 too) by proxy, until I finish my
quizzes.
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:40:22PM +0200, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0200
> > Vlastimil Babka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti:
> >
> > > Okay. So we can just agree it's better if the maintainer
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 05:41:18PM +, Alin Nastac (mrness) wrote:
> mrness 08/04/13 17:41:18
>
> Modified: ChangeLog
> Added:freeradius-2.0.3.ebuild
> Log:
> Version bump.
> (Portage version: 2.1.4.4)
> src_install() {
> mv "${D}/usr/share/doc/
On 11:35 Thu 03 Apr , Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
> Petteri R??ty wrote:
>> Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti:
>>> Petteri R??ty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As others have commented, I don't agree with this point. Also, you're
>>> forgetting we have quite a few people working on this project a
On Saturday 08 March 2008 12:30:17 Petteri Räty wrote:
> Joining us from the zoos of Florida, we have Kenneth "ken numbers here>" Prugh. Ken did such a fine job testing all those random
> packages for amd64 that it will be the sole purpose of his life from now
> on. He tells me his hobby is to lear
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 16:05:09 Petteri Räty wrote:
> Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:
> > Arch Testers don't have tree access. This proposal gives the package
> > maintainer the ability to commit their changes.
>
> How would you ensure ebuild quality for these packag
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:55 Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Thomas Anderson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:
> >>>> Please elaborate on how a "full.fledged developer" would differ from a
&g
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:59:55 Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Thomas Anderson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote:
> >> Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:
> >>>> Please elaborate on how a "full.fledged developer" would differ from a
&g
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 14:41:32 Petteri Räty wrote:
> Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:
> >> Please elaborate on how a "full.fledged developer" would differ from a
> >> "package maintainer" technically. What requirements and/or
> >> priviledg
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 12:45:31 Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:41:58 +0530
>
> Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
> > > vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
> >
On Friday 29 February 2008 13:13:16 Richard Freeman wrote:
> Rémi Cardona wrote:
> > +1 on that idea, using bugzilla with an external tool for keyword
> > requests is a good idea.
> >
> > The tool could do bugzilla research to see if the keyword has already
> > been requested and point the user to
On Thursday 28 February 2008 07:28:27 Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Petteri Räty a écrit :
> > He has been breaking the tree for a while now but as Calchan has been
> > having availability problems I get to insult him a little bit later than
> > usual. Bo hails from Aalborg, Denmark. He studies to become a
On Monday 11 February 2008 14:47:35 Petteri Räty wrote:
> Often we have someone wanting to become a dev and we need a to find a
> mentor for him. What do you think about adding a status bit to LDAP that
> would mark you as available for mentoring? Recruiters could then use
> this info to forward pe
On Thursday 17 January 2008 16:47:28 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Infra is working on a bunch of things lately, and there are going to be
> changes or brief outages for the following services (this is pretty much
> the order they are being worked on).
>
> anonvcs.gentoo.org: anoncvs, ano
On Friday 21 December 2007 08:43:43 Richard Freeman wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Please don't comment any further until you understand how this whole
> > thing works.
> CON:
> Yet another value to be parsed out of an increasingly-complex filename.
> Doesn't look pretty :)
Taste is a matter
On Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:21:31 Markus Ullmann wrote:
> Doug Klima schrieb:
> > zmedico: what if I have EAPI=2 above the inherit but an eclass
> > has EAPI=1
>
> if an eclass sets EAPI, then the ebuild shouldn't... make it two
> eclasses if needed or plain bump them if really really needed.
>
On Monday 03 December 2007 20:29:20 Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> via
While I can't maintain this(no gentoo-x86/ access) I can test it if no one is
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On Wednesday 10 October 2007 04:54:13 Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> all arch devs interested in above tool (app-portage/gatt-svn), I wrote
> a little introduction for it. See Planet.
>
> V-Li
From the Blog Post:
1. emerge the package with different USE flags
Tasks 1, 2, 4 and 5 can be a
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:36:29 Doug Goldstein wrote:
> Ravi Pinjala wrote:
> > Ryan Hill wrote:
> > > There are several packages in portage (and even in base-system) that
> >
> > fail
> >
> > > in src_test when userpriv/usersandbox is enabled or disabled. That
> >
> > is, some
> >
> > > test
Did your work have anything to do with the e-mails from bugzilla-daemon only
containing HTTPS links? I noticed that over the previous few days.
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 22:04:40 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I went and processed a bunch of pending Bugzilla bugs, and thought folk
> might be inte
On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:15:12 Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> As I would like to introduce it to the official Portage Tree in
> preparation of things to come, we would welcome any comments, patches
> and, of course, your kind approval to commit it. :-)
Looks really nice. Just one question: What ab
On Friday 07 September 2007 20:25:07 Alec Warner wrote:
> On 9/7/07, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > On Friday 07 September 2007, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > >> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 02:44:21PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > X-VCS-Repository: gento
I would say, yes. This is a very important for some dialup users. I personally
ditched the default way on my system because I couldn't do this.
With regard to the concerns leveled at users defining their own scripts, it
shouldn't cause too much trouble as long as the user knows a bit about what
Thanks!
Is there any roadmap for stabilizing python-2.5(as in weeks,months,
decades?) ;)
If anything goes into the GWN I think people running 'arch' would like to know
when they will be affected.
On Thursday 23 August 2007 11:01:02 Tiziano Müller wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks to an increased n
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