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Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El jue, 17-07-2014 a las 23:14 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I recently noticed this:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502836
imlib2 ebuild can only be stabilized in one round for all arches as
KEYWORDS are set in eclass depending on E_STATE
actually should be.
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. commit access removal).
With this in mind, i currently dont see any case where QA would need the
ability to remove the commit access of a dev, so i dont see a need for
this glep update.
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this solution should mean an adjusted
amount of stable packages for each arch and no permanent additional work
for the maintainer.
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the abilities of the arch team again.
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eclasses.
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barrier
In the end multilib-portage will likely end as a portage-only feature
allowing multilib-support on packages without the need to change ebuilds
(it also has support for wrapping binaries per ABI, but this will
hopefully at some point also go into the eclasses).
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, but not in this thread. I want this thread to stay focused
on the news item.
Here is the updated newsitem based on feedback I have received so far.
William
What about busybox[sep-usr]? Is that still supported or is everyone with
separate /usr forced to use an initramfs?
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solution for multilib-portage,
since i dont have to internally overwrite an eclass function, but that
is just a side effect, since this issue never blocked multilib-portage.
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Ian Stakenvicius schrieb:
On 25/08/13 10:15 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote:
workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the
function checking for the current ABI (always true with variable,
without only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI
Thomas Sachau schrieb:
Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote:
workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function
checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without
only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI)
Would this variable be set
the situation, it may instead result in a lot of churn,
since people loose interest on their way to dev or shortly after.
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multilib_is_native_abi() can still be used,
when really just one build is needed for everyone
Happy bikesh(r)edding
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--- /usr/portage/eclass/multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-08 20:57:54.0 +0200
+++ multilib-build.eclass 2013-08-25 15:28:10.0 +0200
@@ -373,7
Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote:
workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function
checking for the current ABI (always true with variable, without
only true, when $ABI == $DEFAULT_ABI)
Would this variable be set by the user, in profiles
Michał Górny schrieb:
Dnia 2013-08-25, o godz. 21:34:09
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
On Sun, 25 Aug 2013, Thomas Sachau wrote:
workaround: add a variable, which changes the return of the function
checking for the current ABI (always true with variable
for
none-default ABIs.
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Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib, please
dont disable binary building for other ABIs, as has already been done
for some packages.
This will break e.g. for users
Michał Górny schrieb:
Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 11:48:07
Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
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On 09/08/13 11:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-08-09, o godz. 17:32:56 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org
napisał(a):
As the topic says
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:32:04 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:32:56 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
As the topic says, when someone converts an ebuild to multilib,
please dont disable binary
of the consumers.
If you want to add such wrapper, you can look into the multilib-portage
overlay for such a wrapper, which has now been working and tested for
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Michael Palimaka schrieb:
On 22/05/2013 20:07, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/22/13 11:43, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 22/05/2013 19:22, viv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/21/13 23:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
Am Dienstag, 21. Mai 2013, 15:38:44 schrieb Thomas Sachau:
And if a maintainer
to become so and should have never been there.
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Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn schrieb:
Thomas Sachau schrieb:
Uhm, automagic stabilization without maintainer ok? This sounds like a
bad idea. Doing a batch CC-ing after maintainer gave his ok or
anything similar, which starts, when someone actually aproved the
stable going is all ok
Markos Chandras schrieb:
On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb:
Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs
(there is a package name and maintainer name regex in the script). You
don't need to hunt them down - if you
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb:
On 5/21/13 6:38 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
And if a maintainer is not responding within 30 days, you can ping him
or, without a response, try to get a different maintainer. Just assuming
that a stable request is ok without a maintainer response is really not
a good
Rick Zero_Chaos Farina schrieb:
On 05/21/2013 09:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 21 May 2013 13:21, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb:
Remember this is supposed to _help_ Gentoo. You can opt out of the bugs
(there is a package name and maintainer name regex
-compiling.
You know, that multilib-portage does use MULTILIB_ABI as USE-expanded
variable? Using exactly the same in the eclass will call for collision
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Davide Pesavento schrieb:
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
dev-db/mysql abiwrapper
dev-lang/perl abiwrapper
dev-lang/python abiwrapper
dev-lang/ruby
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:59:35 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
I dont have a list of binaries, i either noticed myself some
abi-specific behaviour or got user reports for abi-specific behaviour.
As an example i remember, dev-libs/libIDL has a config binary
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 21:17:50 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
dev-db/mysql abiwrapper
dev-lang/perl abiwrapper
dev-lang/python abiwrapper
dev-lang/ruby abiwrapper
dev-libs/gobject-introspection abiwrapper
dev-libs/libIDL abiwrapper
dev-scheme/guile
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the global flags from multilib-portage as well.
What are your thoughts?
Once the eclass has per-ABI header and binaries support, i would see
multilib-portage as fallback option for packages/arches, which dont yet
have multilib support via eclass. So i am ok with the USE flag names.
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Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Once the eclass has per-ABI header
I think this is needed.
and binaries support,
but here, could you enlighten me on its use cases ? I can't imagine
why having multi binaries support
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Once the eclass has per-ABI header
I think this is needed.
and binaries support,
but here
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:27:50 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:47:43 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:02:58 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org
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in freetype)
multilib-portage has no issues with abi-specific headers, since those
are installed into a seperate abi-specific location inside /usr/include
with a wrapper in the original location to not break depending packages.
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} ]]; then
local pc
local tf=${T}/prune-lt-files.pc
- local pkgconf=$(tc-getPKG_CONFIG)
+ local pkgconf=$(tc-getPKG_CONFIG)1
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those entries yourself, when your key changes. ;-)
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or to preserve them for an
non-default abi?
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a package-manager level implementation has?
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of portage git repo, ebuild in the multilib-portage
overlay with very basic setup instructions in the doc dir of the overlay
and the #gentoo-multilib-overlay channel in freenode for questions).
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Gilles Dartiguelongue schrieb:
Le lundi 21 janvier 2013 à 00:01 +0100, Thomas Sachau a écrit :
Michał Górny schrieb:
Hello,
There is a fair interest in multilib and while still early, it would be
a good moment to decide on how USE flags to use for it.
The current attempts are mostly using
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El mar, 25-09-2012 a las 10:21 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:13 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
It is not hard by itself to inherit an eclass. There is just the
limitation, that occurs with an eclass, e.g.:
-the one from mgorny
mean? Is it
defined by the user (via a USE flag) or based on eselect-python target?
How does a dev define the implementation to be used and how does the
package manager output look like for sucht a package?
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May i touch the package?/ok for this patch? as too much to do
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Ian Stakenvicius schrieb:
On 23/11/12 09:32 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Ian Stakenvicius schrieb:
On 22/11/12 11:22 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:22:10PM -0600, Donnie Berkholz
wrote:
On 11:11 Sun 18 Nov , Robin H. Johnson wrote:
Here's a list of every package
Ben de Groot schrieb:
On 14 November 2012 05:13, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
- considering gentoo generally uses e-prefixed names (econf, emake,
etc.) maybe its wiser to name the variables E17_* instead of only
E_*, or ENLIGHTENMENT_*, so that it makes
Alexis Ballier schrieb:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:41:05 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
If there are no objections, i plan to add E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF
to the list of USE_EXPAND variables for x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17, in
the next days.
i doubt there will be any
If there are no objections, i plan to add E_MODULES and E_MODULES_CONF
to the list of USE_EXPAND variables for x11-wm/enlightenment:0.17, in
the next days.
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Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 22:39 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El sáb, 20-10-2012 a las 16:09 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
[...]
And finally, as already pointed out by Rich, you should not talk about
any specific EAPI you like/prefer/want to be used everyhwere, but
instead about the issue you want to solve. So just point out
benefit from adding a dot at the end of the DESCRIPTION
variable. So if you want to have a unified behaviour all over the tree,
i would request all descriptions to be without the final dot.
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in this thread, it would just mean less new
ebuilds and less version bumps with such a policy. And i also prefer
more work done with older EAPI versions around then less ebuilds/new
versions with latest EAPI.
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Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find
if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that
changes to ebuilds not maintained by me
of
packages.
P.S.: I know, that users, who want up-to-date 32bit drivers for games
and wine do use multilib-portage, so we already have a working solution
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Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Matt Turner schrieb:
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
It is a simple eclass using autotools out
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:52 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió:
Pacho Ramos schrieb:
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Matt Turner schrieb:
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM
and bump it. And if noone wants to maintain it,
it will be dropped at some point. So you can bump whatever you maintain,
just still the question: Why force this on everyone else?
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, since you can never assume, that older
EAPIs dont exist any more (even a simple EAPI-0 ebuild, which never
needed a bump, is enough), so older EAPI versions have to be supported
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and the
selection of a new stable candidate to remove some issues with the
current stable version.
So if anyone is interested in this package and/or would like to reduce
the response time, feel free to take this package.
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Beside that, the last time i wrote you a mail about this topic, where
you did not respond at all. So please read it again and answer it. Such
change should be properly checked, before we even think about the idea
of such a switch.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Michał Górny schrieb:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Hello, all.
Since nowadays udev
Michał Górny schrieb:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:23:39 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Michał Górny schrieb:
Hello, all.
Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two
libudev providers: =sys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making
the long story short, I
no, i am against adding a virtual/libudev ebuild.
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Matt Turner schrieb:
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Matt Turner schrieb:
I suppose that's just for ease of implementation? Not having to
special-case packages that don't install binaries.
I dont follow. Did you think about only having additional ABI
Luca Barbato schrieb:
On 06/29/2012 04:30 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
It is interesting, still you need a way to define HOST dependencies
(stuff you need that has to be built on the host since you run it, e.g.
xcb python code generator), something to play properly with ld and
cross-vs-host
Matt Turner schrieb:
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Matt Turner schrieb:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul-
packages and also because multilib
Zac Medico schrieb:
On 07/01/2012 04:29 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Matt Turner schrieb:
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm interested in this because I'm regularly annoyed with the emul-
packages and also because multilib is pretty important for mips
, he is
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GLEP: XXX
Title: Crosscompile support for multilib profiles
Version: $Revision: 1.4 $
Last-Modified: $Date: 2003/07/19 12:09:20 $
Author: Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org
Status: Draft
Type: Standards Track
Content-Type: text/x-rst
Luca Barbato schrieb:
On 06/16/2012 12:31 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am
presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for
improvement.
Currently I'm experimenting with evil hack with qemu-static (hopefully
Thomas Sachau schrieb:
Duncan schrieb:
Thomas Sachau posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:31:40 +0200 as excerpted:
Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am
presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for
improvement.
Just a format suggestion. Call
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:16:39 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Since there is again no response at all, it seems like everyone is ok
with this, so i will propose to add this to the next council agenda
for EAPI-5 addition.
Got a diff for PMS?
Last time
Brian Harring schrieb:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:54:07PM +0200, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 20:16:39 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Since there is again no response at all, it seems like everyone is ok
with this, so i will propose to add
Duncan schrieb:
Thomas Sachau posted on Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:31:40 +0200 as excerpted:
Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am
presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for
improvement.
Just a format suggestion. Call it nitpicky if you want
wording and with additional work
for ebuild maintainers. And since my proposal already uses USE flags,
things would not change visually for users of e.g. ruby or php.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:09:14 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Michał Górny schrieb:
Hello,
I have prepared a first draft of 'dynamic SLOT' specification. This
is my proposal in attempt to solve the problem of building packages
for multiple Python and Ruby
Michał Górny schrieb:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:46:00 +0200
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Beside that, it seems to solve things pretty similar to the
proposed way in multilib-portage for cross-compiling (which could
also be adapted for multi-slot languages) with different wording
Since i am not that sure about my ability to write formal specs, i am
presenting my first draft for further review and suggestions for
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For amd64 users, there is sometimes the issue, that they need 32bit libs for
certain packages (e.g.
wine
of Alice with our commit tool),
128kbit upstream with a faster downstream should be ok.
My guess would be, that this is more an issue for people, who do work on
the tree while being offline and who then have to resolve the conflicts,
when they get a connection again.
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in pkg_preinst (this
should also prevent leaving dead files around).
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for a long
time, this would force the dev to convert it to a newer EAPI to be
allowed to add it to the main tree, also the existing ebuild works just
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need for a special
field in metadata.xml to specify the natural name of a package.
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Michał Górny schrieb:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of udev)
3. some wrapper script to mount /usr before udev starts
These two should be really discouraged as a cheap, temporary solution.
We
Michał Górny schrieb:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:06:11 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
Michał Górny schrieb:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:47:38 +0100
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote:
2. switching from udev to mdev (avoids required /usr of udev)
3. some wrapper script to mount /usr
the
install location where needed. No need for mental pressure without an
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Mike Frysinger schrieb:
On Saturday 12 November 2011 17:24:08 Patrick Lauer wrote:
On 11/11/11 16:44, Zac Medico wrote:
good point. we don't want to punish old portage users. let's enable it
by default in portage itself then. just add `elog` output to the
portage ebuild to inform users of
Amadeusz Żołnowski schrieb:
Excerpts from Thomas Sachau's message of 2011-11-13 13:39:17 +0100:
This can be argued from either side, if the default is verbose, you
can make it quiet in the default emerge opts and the other way round.
So this is no argument for or against default quiet build in
Amadeusz Żołnowski schrieb:
Excerpts from Thomas Sachau's message of 2011-11-13 14:59:57 +0100:
How is that an argument for default quiet build? It is exactly the
same argument against default quiet build. If someone does not care,
he does not care about the output being verbose or not, so no
Zac Medico schrieb:
On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things (adding
quiet-build=n to the
default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log) and what i
or others do get from
that. And less lines
Zac Medico schrieb:
On 11/13/2011 03:09 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Zac Medico schrieb:
On 11/13/2011 07:49 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
Please give me a good reason, why i should by default do more things
(adding quiet-build=n to the
default emerge opts or searching for and opening the build.log
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. schrieb:
On 10/14/11 12:39 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 03:29:19PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote:
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Pawe?? Hajdan, Jr.
phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
OK, so what are the _blocking_ reasons for no EAPI 4 support in
python.eclass
Thomas Sachau schrieb:
Tomáš Chvátal schrieb:
Start collecting ideas for EAPI5.
1) USE-flag based support to cross-compile packages (mostly implemented in
multilib-portage)
let me extend this a bit, first the reasoning behind it:
For amd64 users, there is sometimes the issue
Mike Frysinger schrieb:
On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:28:24 Stratos Psomadakis wrote:
Is a x86/amd64/x32 multilib profile just going to provide toolchain
support for x32 binaries (like x86 in a x86/amd64 multilib profile), or
do we want a 'full' x32 profile, where every package is built by
Tomáš Chvátal schrieb:
Start collecting ideas for EAPI5.
1) USE-flag based support to cross-compile packages (mostly implemented in
multilib-portage)
2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby or
php)
3) (internal) USE-flag based support to re-install packages
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb:
Hello everybody,
I have already said this before, but it looks like nobody cared. We have
a problem for what concerns Gentoo-generated distfiles.
This includes custom snapshots, custom packages, patches, patchsets, and
so on so forth. While it was infra that
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