Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-05-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:12:27 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/30/2011 11:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html [..] It no where in the link you provided mentions ChangeLog is required for removals.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Samuli Suominen's message of Sat Apr 30 06:39:52 +0200 2011: sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them If this is not useful information, then entry about added files is not useful either - user see that files are there.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if others would stop it as well This makes no sense. Either you document things, and then you have to keep the

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Duncan
Samuli Suominen posted on Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:15:55 +0300 as excerpted: On 04/30/2011 07:45 AM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 30/04/2011 в 07:39 +0300, Samuli Suominen пишет: On 04/30/2011 07:10 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that. It's not convenient to use browser to read ChangeLog. So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if others would stop it as well I'm the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 07:39 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if others would stop it as well Individual developers (especially QA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 10:22 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: I'd suggest having repoman force a changelog entry on ebuild removal. Opened yesterday: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365361 Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 11:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 04/30/2011 07:39 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if others would stop it as well

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 11:12 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: It no where in the link you provided mentions ChangeLog is required for removals. Removing an unused ebuild is not the same as making changes to an ebuild. We have no policy for logging removals. And that's like it should be. It doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Petteri Räty wrote: Individual developers (especially QA project members) should not be ignoring policies when they feel like it. http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html While I'm all for adding a ChangeLog entry when removing an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 11:35 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Petteri Räty wrote: Individual developers (especially QA project members) should not be ignoring policies when they feel like it. http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html While I'm all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: I'm a user, and despite the fact that I tend to run ~arch or even pre-tree testing overlays, I find ebuild removal information in the changelog WAY more useful than, say, when some obscure arch keyworded a version. Ergo, the argument that users don't find that info useful is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: I'm a user, tho a lowly one, and even I look in the changelogs from time to time. I don't even see why this should be discussed. If you *change* something, but it in the *change* log. If not, maybe the changelog should be called something else. Using the logic that something

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Loeser
Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old, broken with stable libnotify (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha30/cvs/Linux x86_64, RepoMan options: --force) When removing an ebuild,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old, broken with stable libnotify (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha30/cvs/Linux x86_64, RepoMan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Loeser
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old, broken with stable libnotify

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen    11/04/29 18:13:31   Removed:              transmission-2.12.ebuild   Log:   drop old, broken with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 02:40:49PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen) ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen    11/04/29 18:13:31   Removed:          

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 04/29/2011 01:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old, broken with stable libnotify (Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 07:10 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: On 04/29/2011 01:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)ssuomi...@gentoo.org said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that.   ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So it follows that users don't need to see when ebuilds were removed?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 07:45 AM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and old is not useful information to them So it follows that users don't need to see when ebuilds were removed?