Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.04.09 07:34, Duncan wrote: Patrick Nagel posted on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:42:40 +0800 as excerpted: [snip] Likewise, Gentoo's uncomfortable officially linking to something they don't control in any way, shape, or form (except to the extent that we could arguably pull his domain name

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 April 2010 12:28, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: Last time I looked, his about page complies with our trade mark requirements. But ONLY his about page. Our name and logo guidelines state this needs to happen on each page: the website clearly states, on each page, that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 12:32, Ben de Groot wrote: On 12 April 2010 12:28, Roy Bamfordneddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: Last time I looked, his about page complies with our trade mark requirements. But ONLY his about page. Our name and logo guidelines state this needs to happen on each page: the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission is to help Gentoo and not to hinder it. Gentoo hardly makes a habit of Apple-like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo knows about the unofficial wiki and knows it's mission is to help Gentoo and not to hinder it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com  wrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong. Gentoo knows about the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread George Prowse
On 12/04/2010 14:22, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.comwrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Ben de Groot
On 12 April 2010 15:22, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com  wrote: [...] If you are arguing that the name is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-12 Thread Dale
Ben de Groot wrote: On 12 April 2010 15:22, Arun Raghavanford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote: On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Guy Fontaine
There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project is just but another occasion for debating rules and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 09 of April 2010 13:26:16 Guy Fontaine wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that Gentoo Wiki Project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaine guy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan nor wish to be. My feeling is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all its contents) - there's lack of interest of cooperation from already

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: On 9 April 2010 14:35, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: See? This is the problem. Every time comes an initiative to introduce official Gentoo infra hosted Gentoo Wiki (yes, the one that won't loose randomly all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad to learn from others. I'm not a Gentoo dev and I neither have plan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to share my knowledge with others as well as I'm glad

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread AllenJB
On 09/04/10 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: Really? I understood it as the wiki being an all-purposes wiki, meaning users could (would and should) create articles on how to get some application running or how to get some setting working, and the developers will have their own section,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread George Prowse
On 09/04/2010 18:24, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 06:02:40PM +0100, George Prowse wrote: On 09/04/2010 13:38, Ben de Groot wrote: On 9 April 2010 13:26, Guy Fontaineguy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote: There are things I know about Gentoo Linux and I'm pleased to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Ben de Groot
Allen, if you don't have anything constructive to add, then please refrain from adding to this thread. Thanks, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lead developer Gentoo Wiki project lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-09 Thread Mike Pagano
Here's one possible use-case. For me, I would consider moving http://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/index.htm to the official wiki so that other people in the kernel herd can update it. If the updating could be scripted, of course. I would not have considered it for an unofficial wiki

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Ben de Groot
On 8 April 2010 21:51, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: why are we setting up a user wiki when a very popular one already exists? Because some devs request things like this: can we can lock certain pages down to dev edits only? In our wiki we will be able to. Cheers, -- Ben de Groot

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Sylvain Alain
The official wiki can be use by powerusers who want to write some pretty good doc. A lot of powerusers can write excellent doc on the gentoo forum right now, so they don't need to by Gentoo Dev to right excellent stuff. I don't see your point. To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From:

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Sylvain Alain
Indeed, that's why I don't want to have a wiki for devs only. The Gentoo wiki must be for the community and by the community :P There are many Gentoo experts that don't want to be officially devs. d2_racing To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: dirtye...@gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Gentoo Wiki Project

2010-04-08 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi, On 2010-04-08 19:51 UTC Ryan Hill wrote: On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:12:49 +0200 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: After the mostly positive feedback on the recent wiki discussion, we have now gone ahead, formed a preliminary team consisting of both users and developers, and put up a