Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Richard Freeman
Mart Raudsepp wrote: So my point is that the whole of the council should consider the objections of an individual council member, so that potentially bad things don't end up accepted based on some kind of an uninformed majority vote or concensus. Probably the best way to accomplish something l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 12:15 Thu 23 Apr , Tiziano Müller wrote: >> Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 23:21 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: >>> Here is an updated agenda. I've removed a few items that I consider >>> lower priority and unlikely for u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 23:21 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > Goals: Any unanswered queries? Figure out what to do with features > receiving a "no." I think the whole council should understand why something received a "no" from someone, as they might be important technical (or subjective) arg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:53:24 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Which other important topic should we drop for it? I'm thinking we > probably won't even get to the last one, that's almost a wish list. I > think there's a pretty reasonable chance we also wouldn't get to > whatever other items came a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:15 Thu 23 Apr , Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 23:21 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > > Here is an updated agenda. I've removed a few items that I consider > > lower priority and unlikely for us to have time for during this > > week's meeting. Also, I added the iss

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:21:26 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Here is an updated agenda. I've removed a few items that I consider > lower priority and unlikely for us to have time for during this > week's meeting. Please bring forward dleverton's "Portage repeatedly changing behaviour" thing. With

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2009, 23:21 -0700 schrieb Donnie Berkholz: > On 15:27 Fri 17 Apr , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 15:17 Fri 17 Apr , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > > > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:27 Fri 17 Apr , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 15:17 Fri 17 Apr , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > > list to see. > > I've got a few items pending

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:14:36 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:10:50 +0200 > Peter Alfredsen wrote: > > A reasonable default would be --disable-static. Then libs that have > > in-tree consumers of their static libs could then make a use-flag, > > users who need them could use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Markos Chandras
On Sunday 19 April 2009 18:14:36 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:10:50 +0200 > > Peter Alfredsen wrote: > > A reasonable default would be --disable-static. Then libs that have > > in-tree consumers of their static libs could then make a use-flag, > > users who need them could use E

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:10:50 +0200 Peter Alfredsen wrote: > A reasonable default would be --disable-static. Then libs that have > in-tree consumers of their static libs could then make a use-flag, > users who need them could use EXTRA_ECONF="--enable-static". If you're going to do that, why not d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:21:55 -0400 Thomas Anderson wrote: > Why are we trying to get rid of static libraries again? I have not > seen any compelling reason to remove libraries that may be useful to > our users. Perhaps I've missed some discussion(in which case, I'd > love to read it), but this se

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:58:53PM +0200, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:17:15 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > > list to see. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-19 Thread Peter Alfredsen
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:17:15 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > list to see. Up or down vote on USE="static-libs". It seems it wasn't actually voted on las

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-17 Thread Brian Harring
Mind you my opinion... On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:32:42PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:27:30 -0700 > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > EAPI 4: Inclusion of prefix-related variables While I'm a fan of prefix, a stronger case for existing implementation (including more expositi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:27:30 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > EAPI 4: Inclusion of prefix-related variables > EAPI 4: Inclusion of "mtime preservation" Can we put these on hold until EAPI 3 is up and running? We need to get EAPI 3 sorted out before spending any of our limited time on EAPI 4. We all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:17:15 -0700 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th > Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ > irc.freenode.net) ! > > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:17 Fri 17 Apr , Donnie Berkholz wrote: > If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote > on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev > list to see. I've got a few items pending that I would like to propose. It should be clear that there

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-17 Thread Donnie Berkholz
This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo