Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-05-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:12:27 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 04/30/2011 11:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html [..] > It no where in the link you provided mentions ChangeLog is required > for removals. Removing an unused eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: I'm a user, tho a lowly one, and even I look in the changelogs from time to time. I don't even see why this should be discussed. If you *change* something, but it in the *change* log. If not, maybe the changelog should be called something else. Using the logic that something be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: I'm a user, and despite the fact that I tend to run ~arch or even pre-tree testing overlays, I find ebuild removal information in the changelog WAY more useful than, say, when some obscure arch keyworded a version. Ergo, the argument that users don't find that info useful is dispro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 11:35 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Individual developers (especially QA project members) should not be >> ignoring policies when they feel like it. > >> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Petteri Räty wrote: > Individual developers (especially QA project members) should not be > ignoring policies when they feel like it. > http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/misc-files/changelog/index.html While I'm all for adding a ChangeLog entry when removing a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 11:12 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > It no where in the link you provided mentions ChangeLog is required for > removals. Removing an unused ebuild is not the same as making changes to > an ebuild. > > We have no policy for logging removals. And that's like it should be. > It doesn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 11:03 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 04/30/2011 07:39 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> >> sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is >> not useful information to them >> >> So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if >> others would st

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 10:22 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > I'd suggest having repoman force a changelog entry on ebuild removal. > Opened yesterday: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=365361 Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Petteri Räty
On 04/30/2011 07:39 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is > not useful information to them > > So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if > others would stop it as well > Individual developers (especially

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 30/04/2011 в 07:39 +0300, Samuli Suominen пишет: > On 04/30/2011 07:10 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > sources.gentoo.org is for that. It's not convenient to use browser to read ChangeLog. > So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if > others would stop it as well I'm

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Duncan
Samuli Suominen posted on Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:15:55 +0300 as excerpted: > On 04/30/2011 07:45 AM, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen >> wrote: >>> sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is >>> not useful information to them >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-30 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is > not useful information to them > > So no, I won't start cluttering up ChangeLogs and I would prefer if > others would stop it as well This makes no sense. Either you document things, and then you have to keep the docume

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Excerpts from Samuli Suominen's message of Sat Apr 30 06:39:52 +0200 2011: > sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is > not useful information to them If this is not useful information, then entry about added files is not useful either - user see that files are there.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 07:45 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen > wrote: >> sources.gentoo.org is for that. ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is >> not useful information to them > > So it follows that users don't need to see when ebuilds were removed? > Correc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > sources.gentoo.org is for that.   ChangeLog is for users, and "old" is > not useful information to them So it follows that users don't need to see when ebuilds were removed?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/30/2011 07:10 AM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On 04/29/2011 01:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: >>> "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: dr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On 04/29/2011 01:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild Log: drop old, broken with stable libnotify (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha30/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 02:40:49PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: > >> "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: > >>> ssuominen    11/04/29 18:13:31 > >>> > >>>   Removed:              transmission-2.12

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: >> "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: >>> ssuominen    11/04/29 18:13:31 >>> >>>   Removed:              transmission-2.12.ebuild >>>   Log: >>>   drop old, broken with stable libnotify >>> >>>  

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Loeser
Samuli Suominen said: > On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: > > "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: > >> ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 > >> > >> Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild > >> Log: > >> drop old, broken with stable libnotify > >> > >> (Portage version: 2.2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/29/2011 09:26 PM, Mark Loeser wrote: > "Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: >> ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 >> >> Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild >> Log: >> drop old, broken with stable libnotify >> >> (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha30/cvs/Linux x86_64, RepoMan optio

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-p2p/transmission: transmission-2.12.ebuild

2011-04-29 Thread Mark Loeser
"Samuli Suominen (ssuominen)" said: > ssuominen11/04/29 18:13:31 > > Removed: transmission-2.12.ebuild > Log: > drop old, broken with stable libnotify > > (Portage version: 2.2.0_alpha30/cvs/Linux x86_64, RepoMan options: --force) When removing an ebuild, please do do