Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-12-15 Thread Joe Peterson
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 15:35 Mon 01 Dec , Joe Peterson wrote: >> However, what I see as perhaps a missing "piece" is more conceptual: the >> important connection between the valuable info in the emerge logs (and their >> somewhat transient default nature) and what a user looks for when he/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-12-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:35 Mon 01 Dec , Joe Peterson wrote: > However, what I see as perhaps a missing "piece" is more conceptual: the > important connection between the valuable info in the emerge logs (and their > somewhat transient default nature) and what a user looks for when he/she has a > problem with a p

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-12-01 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:35:32 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My intention with the RFC was to see if the concept has any worth and > to kick it around a bit. I do not really see this as a deficiency in > Gentoo's technology (which I have a feeling is how many here have > interpret

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-12-01 Thread Joe Peterson
Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > As others have said, there are already proper systems, documentation and > linking through other docs. Not finding this is what I'd call lazyness > or lack of google foo. Don't misunderstand me, some stuff can get ouf of > the radar of everyone, it's ok, real people a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-12-01 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Summarizing from what I've read in this thread it seems you want to find a way to help user find information s/he doesn't look for. If users aren't curious about their system they will sure have a hard time figuring out how to fix it if needs be. PORTAGE_ELOG_* isn't really that hard to find in t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Ben de Groot
Joe Peterson wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 >> >> Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by >> mail :) > > This is all cool, i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Dale
Joe Peterson wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: > >> Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 >> >> Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by >> mail :) >> > > This is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 >> >> Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Joe Peterson
Peter Volkov wrote: > Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 > > Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by > mail :) This is all cool, indeed! :) I suspect, however

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Peter Volkov
Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It even can send that messages by mail :) HTH, -- Peter. В Вск, 30/11/2008 в 09:25 -0700, Joe Peterson пишет: > Bottom lin

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Joe Peterson
Marius Mauch wrote: > By default, messages generated by elog, ewarn and eerror are recorded > in /var/log/portage/elog/summary.log (emerge.log is just a > transaction log, so best to ignore it here). einfo isn't recorded on > purpose as it isn't intended for important information (that's the > purp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:25:51 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bottom line here is that there is extremely valuable and critical info > in our emerge output. In a way, these messages are like > Gentoo-specific READMEs (or release notes and/or install > instructions). However, it is