well, i tried to check something within the last few hours. here's what i experienced:
at one point there was (nearly at the beginning of my x session) a moment that x used
about 70% of my memory. when i killed sylpheed-claws, it got back to about 20%.
but then after a few hours (well, when i
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Thread me with respect or f**k off!
i respect you and i fuck off
all of that is realy not necessary
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
earn !! this is unresponsable
As I see it, money
Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
As long as it is good like
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 12:45, roger21 wrote:
Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express
that for me personally all this does not count: I
On Thursday 14 August 2003 16:36, Paul K. Dickson wrote:
Could you pass those scripts this way? Thanks!
Here are the scripts attached.
There are both scripts for reading directly from dvd device and from HardDrive
(have HD in their name), scripts for just getting the audio and no subtitles,
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:36:12 +0200
a_k_b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
well, i tried to check something within the last few hours. here's
what i experienced:
SNIP
Well, that memoryusage sinks when disabling / killing sylpheed-claws
means that sylpheed-claws released its memory
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
roger21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
earn !! this is unresponsable
``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 13:45, roger21 wrote:
damn you everybody
:)
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software comunity
and you don't care about what is done with the money they earn !! this
is unresponsable
As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the
You're not running Xinerama by any chance, are you?
nope... well, i think i have support for it compiled in (wherever...), but dont use it.
arne
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Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page
that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact
helped to fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of
pulling money together to help fund a nuclear attack on NYC, you'd
just merrily
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that
for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the
business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo.
As long as it is good like today (or better
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software comunity
and you don't care about what is done with the money they earn !! this
is unresponsable
As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the software is free and
the quality of the software high, I'm willing to donate
unsuscribe
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Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
roger21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
earn !! this is unresponsable
``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they
earn !! this is unresponsable
As I see it, money
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 14:07, roger21 wrote:
Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:45:34 +0200
roger21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software
comunity and you don't care
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
[some samples...]
You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I find
that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and by
giving folks money you enable their agendas while reducing your ability to
From: Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what model
Gentoo
chooses.
Yes it is ... if they are asking for donations.
Tom Veldhouse
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Not really. They can be profit, non-profit, whatever they
want. They put the time and effort into starting it and
making it so it could be so good. If they want to keep
control that's their choice. Now I don't have to donate
if I don't want to. But at this point I like what Gentoo
is and
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page that
they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped to
fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of pulling money
together to help
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
Thread me with respect or f**k off!
i respect you and i fuck off
all of that is realy not necessary
Alright kids ... you are all kids, right?
Tom Veldhouse
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From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a stupid
guy
I don't know if you are stupid, but I know that you addresses us by
damn you everybody with 4 exclamation marks.
So think about the way of discussing here again,
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:06, Eric Livingston wrote:
[some samples...]
You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I find
that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and by
giving folks
-- quoting Karl-Heinz Zimmer --
For the moment I am happy and thankful about getting such a fine
distribution for free, but i would not mind paying for it: I have
to pay for lots of other things that are miles away from this
level of usefulness - e.g. each month the German
so after emerge -u world
...trying a lot of mirrors..
!!! Couldn't download fglrx-glc22-4.3.0-3.2.4.i586.tar.gz.
Aborting.
I have tried it for a few days now but I get still the same error.
What is going wrong here?
I've been having the same problem. I used lynx to examine the
On Thursday 14 August 2003 07:49 pm, Pupeno wrote:
On Thursday 14 August 2003 19:33, Svein Harald Soleim wrote:
On Thursday 14 August 2003 17:01, Pupeno wrote:
Is there any document that you would recomend to get lmsensors
working on Gentoo with gentoo-sources ? (I have an Asus A7N8X
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page
that
they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped
to
fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the process of pulling money
together to help fund a nuclear attack on NYC, you'd just merrily keep
According to my machine a new package called gentoolkit is being
installed when another one of same name is *already* installed. A
search reveals there are two packages by the same name! Anyone else
have this?
# emerge -Duvp world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I
find
that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and
by
giving folks money you enable their agendas while reducing your ability
to
prosecute yours.
I do not know where you got your ideas form,
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 17:56, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support
things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right thing, even
though it is from USA and I do not think that war
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:23, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From: Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what model
Gentoo
chooses.
Yes it is ... if they are asking for donations.
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 18:13, Eric Livingston wrote:
I see, so you won't buy MS products because they support Bush, but you'll
happily donate to Gentoo even though they could also be supporting Bush? You
are being completely inconsistent.
No. It was a question. Anyway I can't see Gentoo
Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
starts sub-threads. Case in point.
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:35, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
free as in freedom [RMS] ... thank you for considering me as a stupid
guy
I
Yes that would be b, you're just trolling. Find something better to do.
I for one will not be feeding this bullshit any longer.
Nice. I hope you have a pleasant day, too.
So, I'm supporting the (further) development of Gentoo. I've gotten an
explanation about the use of the donated money,
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 17:56, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote:
I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support
things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right thing,
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subthread? where?
/me hides
On Freitag, 15. August 2003 17:46, Shawn wrote:
Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
starts sub-threads. Case in point.
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 09:35, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From:
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:35 am, Mark Fisher wrote:
On Friday 15 Aug 2003 4:13 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
# emerge -s gentoolkit
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gentoolkit ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]
* app-admin/gentoolkit
Latest version available: 0.1.30
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:01:23 +0200
Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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subthread? where?
/me hides
There is no subthread!
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:01:16 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:35 am, Mark Fisher wrote:
On Friday 15 Aug 2003 4:13 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
# emerge -s gentoolkit
Searching...
[ Results for search key : gentoolkit ]
[
Do you run fixpackages or have it as a feature in
make.conf? Maybe the toolkit got moved to a different
category. IIRC fixpackages is supposed to correct things
like that.
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:01:16 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:35 am, Mark
On Friday 15 August 2003 12:18 pm, Spider wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:01:16 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:35 am, Mark Fisher wrote:
On Friday 15 Aug 2003 4:13 pm, Dhruba Bandopadhyay wrote:
# emerge -s gentoolkit
On Friday 15 August 2003 12:29 pm, brett holcomb wrote:
Do you run fixpackages or have it as a feature in
make.conf? Maybe the toolkit got moved to a different
category. IIRC fixpackages is supposed to correct things
like that.
I have it as a feature and it seems to have worked properly.
Woof G.
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:37:45 -0400
Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 12:29 pm, brett holcomb wrote:
Do you run fixpackages or have it as a feature in
make.conf? Maybe the toolkit got moved to a different
category. IIRC fixpackages is supposed to correct
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:58:34 -0400
Eric Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front
page that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism,
had infact helped to fund the 9/11 attacks, and were now in the
In shock? Have I disturbed your worldview to that extent?
No, I think he just questions your obviously unamerican viewpoints.
I don't suppose you could point out the unamerican parts? Note that I do not
assert that Gentoo is doing any of that, and if fact point out that I think
it strange that
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:12, Spider wrote:
Karl-Heinz Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
subthread? where?
There is no subthread!
hehe
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On Freitag, 15. August 2003 18:52, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From: Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
Intentional invocation of Godwin's law nullifies it's use. It only
starts sub-threads. Case in point.
I
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front page that
they were full, enthusiastic supporters of terrorism, had in fact helped to
fund the 9/11 attacks, and were
Hi all,
is there any way I can completely remove gnome form my machine? I
use kde always
and just to try installed gnome but now unmerged every thing that
has any explicit
reference to gnome. I even set my USE flag to -gnome but
whenever, I try to do an
emeger -Up world, it tries to
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:08:47 -0800
Brendan Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is, since the kernel on the CD worked without problems can
I just install and use that one? That way I can try different options
in the kernel to fix the issue?
Yep, here's a tip:
boot the
From THE DEVIL'S DICTIONARY ((C)1911 Released April 15 1993) [devils]:
U.S tax day. Another Devil's event. ;-)
I dont understand why everyone gets so upset when Gentoo Users ask for
financial statements, which should be public information to anyone who
requests such information.
I think
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:02:30 -0400
R'twick Niceorgaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
is there any way I can completely remove gnome form my machine? I use
kde always and just to try installed gnome but now unmerged every
thing that has any explicit reference to gnome. I even set
On 15 Aug 2003 at 19:52, Spider wrote:
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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:02:30 -0400
R'twick Niceorgaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
is there any way I can completely remove gnome form my machine? I
use kde always and just to try installed gnome but now unmerged
every thing that
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 09:41:14AM +0200 or thereabouts, Matthias F. Brandstetter
wrote:
All in all, it's not a must, but I think everyone who wants to donate
something would be glad if (s)he would know what happens with the
money.
This was covered recently (sorry about line wrapping)
Op vrijdag 15 augustus 2003 04:39, schreef David:
!!! Couldn't download fglrx-glc22-4.3.0-3.2.4.i586.tar.gz. Aborting.
I've been having the same problem. I used lynx to examine the location
where the file is supposed to be...it's not there. I am assuming there is
a typo in the url.
The
Nathan Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The root of the matter is that when you donate money to Gentoo, you are
rewarding the organization, and more specifically the _VOLUNTEERS_ who
produce, manage, and develop Portage for your person use. The question
regarding your donation should not
On 15 Aug 2003 16:37:54 +0100
Yorkshire Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:23, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
From: Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
Excellent, Karl. In fact it's really none of our business what
Spider wrote:
it means gentoolkit is being moved into a new category called
app-portage .
//Spider
Well, I did an emerge sync and afterwards true enough there was only one
gentoolkit. However, this is what I got at the end of the emerge sync.
Performing Global Updates:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:11:02 -0500
Richard Kilgore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 03:15:55PM -0400, rh wrote:
Hi.
Just finished emerge'ing openoffice (24 hours later!!) and it
is slower than death. It can take sometimes 5-10 seconds just
to open the menus. Does
Run fixpackages or add it as a feature in /etc/make.conf
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:37:38 +0100
Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Spider wrote:
it means gentoolkit is being moved into a new category
...
** Skipping packages. Run 'fixpackages' or set it in
FEATURES to fix the
tbz2's
On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front
page that they were full, enthusiastic supporters of
On Friday 15 August 2003 21:27, Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
Interesting sentiment. So, if Gentoo were to post on their front
On Friday 15 August 2003 04:40 pm, Tom Wesley wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 21:27, Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 01:40 pm, Bram De Smet wrote:
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 16:31, Zack Gilburd wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 05:06 am, Eric Livingston wrote:
Interesting
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El Jue 14 Ago 2003 02:51, Norberto BENSA escribió:
The problem is my .sub files are almost empty (~90KB for a 4GB movie like
X-Men) and mplayer says 0 subtitles loaded or something like that.
Cuando tengas XMen2 avisame ;)
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On Friday 15 August 2003 21:46, Ernie Schroder wrote:
snip misc stuff
ps, if I send a donation specifically marked alcohol for devels,
will that work? ;-)
I know one personally and I'm sure he would earmark any donations coming
directly to him for that purpose. Would you like he email
On Friday 15 August 2003 04:52 pm, Tom Wesley wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 21:46, Ernie Schroder wrote:
snip misc stuff
ps, if I send a donation specifically marked alcohol for
devels, will that work? ;-)
I know one personally and I'm sure he would earmark any donations
coming
Hi I am new to gentoo and need som help.
I have trouble with the Norwegian keys ÆØÅ in the console, but it is ok
in X. The keymapping seems correct otherwise, that is I get keys like @
and ~ correct. It is just æøå that displays incorrect. Any suggestions?
By the way, which package contains
Title: How to correct error in grub.conf
Hi all,
I am new to gentoo and made a blunder during the installation of grub. I created grub.conf with nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf as directed in the x86-install page but I saved it with a typo. When I boot I notice that the entries I made had an
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:28:23 +0200
Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi I am new to gentoo and need som help.
I have trouble with the Norwegian keys ÆØÅ in the console, but it is
ok in X. The keymapping seems correct otherwise, that is I get keys
like @ and ~
-Original Message-
From: Ware, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] How to correct error in grub.conf
Hi all,
I am new to gentoo and made a blunder during the installation of
grub. I created grub.conf
Hi,
I'm still having problems with emerge wanting to downgrade glibc from 2.3.2-r1 to
2.3.1-r4. It doesn't matter if I do emerge -u system or emerge -U system, it still
tries to downgrade before doing something else:
embryo portage # emerge -up system
These are the packages that I would
On 2003.08.15 18:11, Ware, John wrote:
Hi all,
I am new to gentoo and made a blunder during the installation
of grub. I created grub.conf with nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf as
directed in the x86-install page but I saved it with a typo. When I
boot I notice that the entries I made had an
spiff.devotion wrote:
Hi,
I'm still having problems with emerge wanting to downgrade glibc from 2.3.2-r1 to 2.3.1-r4. It doesn't matter if I do emerge -u system or emerge -U system, it still tries to downgrade before doing something else:
embryo portage # emerge -up system
These are
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On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:28:23 +0200
Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi I am new to gentoo and need som help.
I have trouble with the Norwegian keys ÆØÅ in the console, but it is
ok in X. The keymapping seems correct otherwise, that is I get keys
like @ and ~
Thanks for the comments.
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:07:01PM -0700, el lodger wrote:
I'm curious if your portage is compiled against the old or newer glibc.
lodger
It was compiled against the old glibc. I issued an emerge portage to compile it with
the new glibc, but it didn't change
Im a newbie half way thru a stage3+grp install and Im having the same
problem.
To get around it, I copied /etc/xml/docbook to /etc/xml/catlog at it has
disappeared.
Its probably not the recommended solution, but it did work. I guess
we'll see when its all done.
Feedback appreciated.. :)
What gives?
rattus# emerge -e --deep world -p|wc
135 5345612
rattus# wc /var/cache/edb/world
608 608 11445 /var/cache/edb/world
rattus#
Ran regenworld, which added one package to the world file, but none to
the emerge -e
I want to make a major change to my system, and
On Friday 15 August 2003 09:19 pm, William Kenworthy wrote:
What gives?
rattus# emerge -e --deep world -p|wc
135 5345612
rattus# wc /var/cache/edb/world
608 608 11445 /var/cache/edb/world
rattus#
Ran regenworld, which added one package to the world file, but none
Hi All,
I'm using the live CD along with the 2nd CD for my
installation.
I am successfully able to install xfree86 and start it
up.
However, then I try to install gnome, emerge throws up
quiet a few errors and fails to proceed.
emerge (1 of 117) gnome-base/ORBit2-2.6.1 to /
Downloading
It was new message - checked the header of what I sent, and what came in
via the list, and its clean - used evolution. Threaded view in evo
shows nothing extra
I dont use threading myself as its a real pain when you get a lot of
mail, breaks too often, and leads people to keep complaining about
On 16/8/03 3:11 am, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 15 August 2003 09:19 pm, William Kenworthy wrote:
What gives?
rattus# emerge -e --deep world -p|wc
135 5345612
rattus# wc /var/cache/edb/world
608 608 11445 /var/cache/edb/world
rattus#
Thast
On Friday 15 August 2003 11:46 pm, William Kenworthy wrote:
It was new message - checked the header of what I sent, and what came
in via the list, and its clean - used evolution. Threaded view in
evo shows nothing extra
My appologies. It shows as a new thread now that I restarted
Lines are the first field of wc. This perhaps answers Ernies question,
but not mine - where emerge shows many less packages than the world
file. So where is emerge getting its info?
There are also a number of bugs in bugzilla that may apply to this -
basicly inconsistencies in a number of
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