Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Compile error on IDE Power Mac driver

2005-11-07 Thread Gerardo Lisboa
Hi, Have you a separate boot partition using a ext2 fs? I found that to be the best way to boot using yaboot. I don't use it mounted on boot time but it is on fstab as /boot. The root fs is then anything you compiled statically on the kernel (or the initrd supports). Best luck. G. 2005/11/7,

Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Compile error on IDE Power Mac driver

2005-11-07 Thread Charles Trois
Gerardo Lisboa a écrit : Hi, Have you a separate boot partition using a ext2 fs? No. The opinions that I read so far are rather against it, so that I did not plan to use one. Thanks all the same for your suggestion; I shall keep it in mind, just in case. Cheers. Charles --

Re: [gentoo-user] About sed

2005-11-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Rafael Barreto wrote: Hi, I'm learning about the use of the sed command and I have some questions. I'm trying to read in /etc/conf.d/clock the CLOCK variable with: sed '/^CLOCK=*$/p' /etc/conf.d/clock This command, in principe, must print in screen the line that contains CLOCK= in the

[gentoo-user] Emerge Problem

2005-11-07 Thread Gentoo Voyager
Dear All, I'm very new to Gentoo.When i emerge, it will not functioning, also there is no any reply longtime, while this proble, even i can't Ctrl+C. Please help me on this matter.. Thanks.. -- Try tobe a Buddhist..!!

Re: [gentoo-user] Visited web sites

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 20:40:02 -0800 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/5/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 19:48:04 -0800 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/5/05, gentuxx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/local/portage does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure.

2005-11-07 Thread Nagatoro
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 15:01:27 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: I've found the problem. Portage doesn't like packge-0.0.1beta. Instead you must name it like package-0.0.1_beta. Now I need to do some magic inside the ebuild to s/_// Something along the lines of

Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing error

2005-11-07 Thread Qv6
On Monday 31 October 2005 06:43 am, brullo nulla wrote: problem 1: can no longer access my block devices from Konqueror. From Konqueror I get a Protocol not supported error when I click on the devices tab. So I can't access my usb disk or even view my partitions from Konqueror. It seems

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Problem

2005-11-07 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Montag, den 07.11.2005, 14:03 +0600 schrieb Gentoo Voyager: Dear All, I'm very new to Gentoo.When i emerge, it will not functioning, also there is no any reply longtime, while this proble, even i can't Ctrl +C. Please help me on this matter.. I'd be glad to help you if I knew a little

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with mysql 4.1 upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Catalin Trifu
Hi, What does the mysql log say ? /var/lib/mysql/host.err Catalin Kevin Philp wrote: Last week I upgraded to mysql 4.1.14. I carefully followed every line of the upgrade guide inlcuding the revdep-rebuild and at the end I had a lovely new mysql 4.1 and all my databases had imported

[gentoo-user] Re: Problems with mysql 4.1 upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Remy Blank
Kevin Philp wrote: /etc/init.d/mysql start - says mysql has already started but it hasn't (ps aux | grep -i my* shows nothing) If you are sure mysql isn't started, try: /etc/init.d/mysql zap Then start it again: /etc/init.d/mysql start BTW, this is not mysql-specific. If a service crashes

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with mysql 4.1 upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Kevin Philp
I don't seem to have the log file you mention but this is in the mysqld.err file. /var/log/mysql/mysqld.err InnoDB: Error: log file ./ib_logfile0 is of different size 0 8388608 bytes InnoDB: than specified in the .cnf file 0 5242880 bytes! 051107 9:13:17 [ERROR] Can't init databases 051107

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with mysql 4.1 upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Kevin Philp
I edited the my.cnf file and changed innodb_log_file_size= 5M to innodb_log_file_size= 8M and now it works again. Kevin. On 07/11/05, Kevin Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't seem to have the log file you mention but this is in the mysqld.err file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with mysql 4.1 upgrade

2005-11-07 Thread Catalin Trifu
Hi, The default log size changed between 4.0 and 4.1 and when u upgraded the /etc/mysql/my.cnf was overwriten. One solution would be to either remove the logs from /var/lib/mysql and restart the server and let mysql rebuild the log files. Second is to edit the /etc/mysql/my.cnf and make

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert windows-1250 database to UTF-8

2005-11-07 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 11/7/05, Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to convert my windows-1250 database to Unicode, UTF-8. Isthere any script that can do the job?What kind of database is it? If it's something the likes of postgresql or mysql, you could dump the database to a text file, use recode or iconv to

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert windows-1250 database to UTF-8

2005-11-07 Thread Khan
Bruno Lustosa wrote: On 11/7/05, *Khan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to convert my windows-1250 database to Unicode, UTF-8. Is there any script that can do the job? What kind of database is it? If it's something the likes of postgresql or mysql, you

Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-07 Thread brullo nulla
However, after about 10 minutes the system load on one processor sharply increases to 100% when performing a simple task such as clicking on a button in Firefox, launching a new gnome-terminal window or clicking on the Applications menu at the top of the screen. I have not understood if the

Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing error

2005-11-07 Thread brullo nulla
This is an aspect of Gentoo that I don't understand very well. the various kioslaves block other packages and vice-versa. For example, kdepim blocks kdepim-kioslaves, and kdebase blocks kdebase-kioslaves. Same goes for kdemultimedia and kdemultimedia-kioslaves. As a test, I unmerged kdepim

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Petteri Räty
Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : can't initialise Nvidia module, no qualified screen available (or words to that effect). I have recompiled Nvidia etc. No problems here with the latest ~x86

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Fish
John Green wrote: Nick Rout wrote: To everyone in this thread: it would probably help if you specified which version of portage you are running! On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 16:34:00 +0100 Jarry wrote: Still running portage 2.0.51.22-r3 here, which is why the speed variation was

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert windows-1250 database to UTF-8

2005-11-07 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:25:22 +0100 Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Lustosa wrote: On 11/7/05, *Khan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to convert my windows-1250 database to Unicode, UTF-8. Is there any script that can do the job? What

[gentoo-user] boot new splash Image?

2005-11-07 Thread James
Hello, I use the /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz image at boot time, without issues. However, I'm looking for some variety now. Maybe (3) penguins? Animation? or a variety of different images at boot time? Any ideas or archives with lots of choices are most welcome. For somebody with zero artistic

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Philip Webb
051107 Petteri R?ty wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : can't initialise Nvidia module, no qualified screen available (or words to that effect). I have recompiled Nvidia etc. No problems

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Catalin Grigoroscuta
Had same problem today with 2.6.13-r5. Turned out that nvidia module was not loaded :) - so a simple modprobe nvidia fixed the problem. Philip Webb wrote: 051107 Petteri R?ty wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12

Re: [gentoo-user] [Fwd: Frozen Video]

2005-11-07 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 11/5/2005 9:12 PM Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:15:37 -0800 Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a box running kernel version 2.6.13-r5, and MythTV 0.18.2 built from portage. I'm using a video card with the nvidia nv18 chipset (6600?). I also have a custom xorg

[gentoo-user] Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Steve [Gentoo]
I've recently started playing around with Ruby and rails under Gentoo. I've installed everything using emerge as opposed to the using ruby gems. While I seem to be able to use my rails application, I get a puzzling error message when I try to verify it using the default generated rakefile

[gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi. I'm looking for a very lightweight SMTP server. It should (in order): - Support TLS or SSL for outgoing/incoming connections - Be VERY light on CPU usage - Store mails in Maildir format (or hand it off to an MDA like procmail/maildrop, for them to store the mails) - Relay mail to only

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread Mauro Faccenda
On Monday 07 November 2005 13:38, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi. I'm looking for a very lightweight SMTP server. It should (in order): - Support TLS or SSL for outgoing/incoming connections - Be VERY light on CPU usage - Store mails in Maildir format (or hand it off to an MDA like

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi. I'm looking for a very lightweight SMTP server. It should (in order): - Support TLS or SSL for outgoing/incoming connections - Be VERY light on CPU usage - Store mails in Maildir format (or hand it off to an MDA like procmail/maildrop, for them to store the

[gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
.. and that problem is, in short, that the rebuild unmerges the previous version, in the currently-running (or previous) kernel modules folder, breaking the previous kernel. And my question is, how to get it to stop doing that. If Portage has a FEATURES setting that prevents the previous version

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 17:38 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi. I'm looking for a very lightweight SMTP server. It should (in order): - Support TLS or SSL for outgoing/incoming connections - Be VERY light on CPU usage - Store mails in Maildir format (or hand it off to an MDA like

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Preston Hagar
I have the exact same issue and as yet have been unable to solve it. My emerged versions are as follows: dev-lang/ruby-1.8.3 * dev-ruby/rubygems-0.8.11 * dev-ruby/activerecord-1.11.1 dev-ruby/activesupport-1.1.1-r2 * dev-ruby/rake-0.5.3 * dev-ruby/rails-0.13.1 * My error when running rake:

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Abap
On 11/7/05, Steve [Gentoo] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've recently started playing around with Ruby and rails under Gentoo.I've installed everything using emerge as opposed to the using ruby gems.While I seem to be able to use my rails application, I get a puzzling error message when I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/6/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Rout wrote: To everyone in this thread: it would probably help if you specified which version of portage you are running! Do you really think it is important? Because since I'm using Gentoo, I do not take care about versions, portage does it

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Qian Qiao schreef: On 11/6/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I do is running this set of commands every night from crontab: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild So my portage is also always updated, to the last stable version. Now

[gentoo-user] java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread James
Hello, Top-posting filter avoidance on gmane -ignore line When performing a routine update (after emerge sync) I ran into a problem with java-config. emerge -uDp listed about 8 packages for update. Problem snip md5 src_uri ;-) php-4.4.0.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 07 November 2005 17:27, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I've recently started playing around with Ruby and rails under Gentoo. I've installed everything using emerge as opposed to the using ruby gems. While I seem to be able to use my rails application, I get a puzzling error message when I

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: Qian Qiao schreef: On 11/6/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I do is running this set of commands every night from crontab: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild Omg, you have emerge --deep --newuse --update world as a

Re: [gentoo-user] java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 18:20 +, James wrote: Hello, Top-posting filter avoidance on gmane -ignore line When performing a routine update (after emerge sync) I ran into a problem with java-config. emerge -uDp listed about 8 packages for update. Problem snip md5 src_uri

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap3 copypaste= Updating your System To keep your system in perfect shape (and not to mention install the latest security updates) you need to update your system regularly. Since

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Qian Qiao wrote: But for Jarry, he probably need 2 variables: BRAVE_YET_DUMB=1 I_WILL_NOT_BLAME_THE_DEVS_IF_MY_SYSTEM_GETS_BORKED=1 Satisfied? Carry on, if it makes you feel better... Anyway, I'll not fight back to this primitive insultation. It is under my level, and imho under level of this

Re: [gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:26:02 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: And my question is, how to get it to stop doing that. If Portage has a FEATURES setting that prevents the previous version being unmerged this way, I don't know what it is. Doesn't AUTOCLEAN=no do

[gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Remy Blank
Holly Bostick wrote: And the drivers build and install fine... then this: | Safely unmerging already-installed instance... snip ==--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video/fglrx.ko ==--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video ==--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4

[gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, Is the following expected with recent ati-drivers? Is this slotted? If so, and if I did the --deep --update command, then how do I know which one I'm using when I load fglrx? Thanks, Mark lightning ~ # emerge -pv ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra These are the packages that I would merge,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copypaste please, if you find something... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap3 copypaste= Updating your System To keep your system in perfect shape (and not to mention install the latest security updates)

Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-07 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/7/05, brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, after about 10 minutes the system load on one processor sharply increases to 100% when performing a simple task such as clicking on a button in Firefox, launching a new gnome-terminal window or clicking on the Applications menu at the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jarry schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Qian Qiao schreef: On 11/6/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I do is running this set of commands every night from crontab: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild Omg, you have emerge --deep

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
Jarry wrote: b.n. wrote: Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copypaste please, if you find something... Just read the three lines quoted above and you'll find what I mean. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild [SOLVED]

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Remy Blank schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: And the drivers build and install fine... then this: | Safely unmerging already-installed instance... snip ==--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video/fglrx.ko ==--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video ==--- cfgpro dir

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef: Hi, Is the following expected with recent ati-drivers? Is this slotted? No, and no. If so, and if I did the --deep --update command, then how do I know which one I'm using when I load fglrx? fglrxinfo would tell you the version of the ati-drivers in use. But... there

[gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Marc Christiansen
Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. and that problem is, in short, that the rebuild unmerges the previous version, in the currently-running (or previous) kernel modules folder, breaking the previous kernel. Did you check if the files are really gone? [...] | Safely unmerging

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert windows-1250 database to UTF-8

2005-11-07 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:25:22 +0100 Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruno Lustosa wrote: On 11/7/05, *Khan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to convert my windows-1250 database to Unicode, UTF-8. Is there any script that can do the job? What kind of

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/local/portage does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure.

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 11:24:19 +0100, Nagatoro wrote: Something along the lines of My_P=$(P/beta/_beta} and use ${My_P} instead of ${P} throughout the ebuild. Or better look at http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/devmanual/ebuild-writing/ since _beta is a recogniced suffix

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: Jarry wrote: b.n. wrote: Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copypaste please, if you find something... Just read the three lines quoted above and you'll find what I mean. Yes, I have read

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Problem here-- afaik-- is that the drivers-extra package is hooked to the drivers package of the same version. The --deep update of the drivers-extra package requires the 'same' version of the drivers package as it

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Qian Qiao wrote: To elabrate even more: Redhat, suse and possibly other distro users can do cron upgrades, as those distros never give out in-compatible upgrades to a release. heh, if only this were truly the case. However the sentiment is still correct, my beef being with the word *never*.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: The Gentoo Handbook does *not* recommend you do these procedures *unattended*, the way you are doing them. Well, gentoo says ...update your system regularly I thought it means really regularly, not when root finds some spare time to do it. And things, which must be

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Philip Webb
051107 Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Martins Steinbergs
emerge -p ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] media-video/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1 [ebuild R ] media-video/ati-drivers-extra-8.18.8 Do you maybe have a mask on ati-drivers-extra? Holly

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: From someone on the LKML I found out that the ATI binary drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel so this is suddently not such an issue for me. The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide 64-bit binary drivers as well (and the ebuild should download

[gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread James
Michael Sullivan michael at espersunited.com writes: You need to use java-config to set your JVM to a JDK! Which brings me back to java-config, which is broken. Any help or ideas are most welcome. I had this problem last week. Running 'python-updater' fixed it. Well using

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still better than leaving some hole for uninvited visitors. You'd rather having a b0rked system, than some uninvited visitors... Hmmm. One piece of advice: turn that system off. -- Joe --

[gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread David Harel
Hi all, I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - display driver issue) so how do I do it? -- Thanks. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 4422234 Fax:+972 77 4422234 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka

RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: Philip Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:06 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia 051107 Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Jarry wrote: Could some of you, gentoo-wizards, be kind enough and explain, what is wrong in doing the things the way gentoo handbook recommends it? Without offensive language, if I may ask... Being a server guy I'll throw this one out as it hasn't happened yet, though I expect a fair amount

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I prefer rather breaking some dependencies in my system, over leaving some security hole in it. I am fully aware of the possibility that some services might be unavailable, but logsentry and monit will inform me about it... If your server

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:49:40 +0100 Jarry wrote: b.n. wrote: Jarry wrote: b.n. wrote: Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copypaste please, if you find something... Just read the three lines

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well using 'python-updater' env-update source /etc/profile etc-update and 'emerge -uD world' everything is fine now. Where does one read about python-updater ? It was printed on the screen when you update your python package. Did you do your

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like please is a sign of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies included phrases like ...it bloody matters!... or how the hell would we know...! or Jarry needs variable

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Qian Qiao wrote: Tell me how log entries are gonna inform you if the init scripts can't even start the service? I'm not sure, probably in ~30min I would get email, if completely broken server would not make it impossible. I thought either monit or logsentry would notice it and inform me...

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jarry schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: The Gentoo Handbook does *not* recommend you do these procedures *unattended*, the way you are doing them. Well, gentoo says ...update your system regularly I thought it means really regularly, not when root finds some spare time to do it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread Christoph Eckert
I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - display driver issue) so how do I do it? in 2.4 ALSA is completely outside the kernel, so you need the following packages: * ALSA-lib * ALSA-driver * ALSA-utils (optional but recommended) Best regards ce --

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b.n. wrote: Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like please is a sign of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies included phrases like ...it bloody matters!... or how the

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: From someone on the LKML I found out that the ATI binary drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel so this is suddently not such an issue for me. The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide 64-bit

Re: [gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
shenanigans schreef: We have mirrored your mail list in a new application Is this permitted? (a mirror of the mail list that is unaffiliated with the Gentoo organization and administration? or is this affiliated?) And is there something wrong with me that it rather gives me the creeps if it

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 02:04 pm, Jarry wrote: Which you are not doing, and frankly, you're pretty lucky that something hasn't blown up up to now. That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still better than leaving some hole for uninvited visitors. Thanks for your

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Accessing Linux filesystems from Windows with Crossmeta

2005-11-07 Thread Billy Holmes
Heinz Sporn wrote: Noone's interested in this? Are you kidding me? ;-) haha.. I don't run windows in a situation where I have to access files from a physical drive. I rarely run windows at all, actually. Well, in the end I got this thing running and I now have read and *write* access to an

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread John Jolet
On Monday 07 November 2005 15:22, Qian Qiao wrote: On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b.n. wrote: Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like please is a sign of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: Hmmm, interesting concept. What else does root have to do but administer the server? Well, in this case it is not some serious server, just for funplay. And sometimes I really do not have time to take care of it for a couple of days, week or two. I have a different job...

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like please is a sign of respect to others. Sometimes it looks more like sarcasm. Yours is a bit autistic way to deal with human language. It is not like using please in a sentence means an

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Mark
OK, can y'all just drop it? Filling my inbox with bickering is not why I subscribe to such a fine technical list On 11/7/05, Qian Qiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b.n. wrote: Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread David Harel
Thanks for your reply, Du you know if there is a kernel configuration I should do to have ALSA on 2.4? for example should I have OSS set or midi loopback device? Christoph Eckert wrote: I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - display driver issue) so how do I do

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trim doh, everything is trimmed. :D /trim Let's leave the brave, dumb, ignorance, arrogance out, and concentrate on maintaining a server, especially production servers with clients. First of all, I should point out that maintaining a server is far more

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jeff Smelser schreef: On Monday 07 November 2005 02:04 pm, Jarry wrote: Which you are not doing, and frankly, you're pretty lucky that something hasn't blown up up to now. That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still better than leaving some hole for uninvited

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, John Jolet wrote: At the risk of of adding to the flames here, perhaps an example is in order I once worked as a sysadmin for a guy who firmly believed in security. To prevent any security holes from lingering, he did an apt-get update out of cron every friday

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Qian Qiao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I left out an important note: major upgrades, feature upgrades should always be tested on a test server before applying to production. -- Joe -- There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who can count, and those who can't. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge R

2005-11-07 Thread Ian Porter
Hi, On Thursday 27 October 2005 12:30, Ian Porter wrote: Hi, You should definitely use these drivers - they're excellent. I'm sure that once you `emerge rt2500` your problems will be resolved. The name of the interface will change from wlan0 to ra0, so you'll need to rename your init.d

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: phrases like ...it bloody matters!... or how the hell would we know...! or Jarry needs variable BRAVE_YET_DUMB=1. Although such words do not sound good to me, I would never dare to say their authors are arrogant... These people are treating you with confidence. They're kidding

Re: [gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On November 07 at 16:49 EST, Mark Knecht hastily scribbled: I received an email from these guys and decided it was spam. Is it? - Mark It sounded to me either like spam or a humorous imitation of all the Web 2.0 stuff going around (a Web 2.01 app?) Either way, I'd ignore it. On 11/7/05,

Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: Why not 4P with dual cores? While they work, the need is i/o and memory bandwidth. 4 sockets does that while 2 sockets and 2 dual-cores cores is only half the bandwidth. Its very expensive, but you can now go up to 16 Opeteron cores in a single

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Jarry wrote: As I said previously: fixing errors later is my problem. But if I do not close some security leak, it would be then problem for me and maybe someone else too. There are too many unpatched and vulnerable computers on the net, I did not want to cotribute to it... But there is

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide 64-bit binary drivers as well (and the ebuild should download the correct one depending on whether you're on a 64-bit or 32-bit Gentoo install.) --

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 03:52 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: No, no, Jeff, that is apparently where you are wrong: Heh, I missed this tidbit.. Jarry schreef: Well, this will be probably criticised, but after every upgrade (independently of what was really updated) I restart sshd, named,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 03:38 pm, Jarry wrote: As I said previously: fixing errors later is my problem. But if I do not close some security leak, it would be then problem for me and maybe someone else too. There are too many unpatched and vulnerable computers on the net, I did not want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Peper
Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration Have you really tried

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the paranoia of having your servers hacked but there is usually a middle ground that works reasonably well. I run a script nightly via cron but all it does is do a portage sync and then *prebuild* binary packages for any

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Billy Holmes
Holly Bostick wrote: world. *Ob*viously. Because *ob*viously, emerge -uDNworld updates to the version of whatever containing the patch for the hole. No matter what your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is set to, no matter what USE flags are enabled. I also wanted to add something: sometimes patches are

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Qian Qiao wrote: 3. Schedule maintenance slots. That's the best way to manage updates. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 7 November 2005 22:31, Peper wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 Nvidia [SOLVED]

2005-11-07 Thread Philip Webb
051107 Peper wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration Have

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