Re: [gentoo-user] is a global use flag necessary for python?

Sorry; that is over my head. When did you last upgrade? The error messages talk about python 3.8. But on my machine it looks like 3.11 and 3.12 are current... [x8940][waltdnes][~] find /usr/bin -name python3\.* /usr/bin/python3.12 /usr/bin/python3.12-config /usr/bin/python3.11

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 09:16:37PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, > are you building that requires clang? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Musl custom initramfs kernel panic

Am Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 06:59:15PM +0100 schrieb efeizbudak: How could I go about finding which library it is? lddtree is only giving me libblkid and libmount, both of which are already inside the initramfs. I will try to learn about busybox. Thank you. You can try to run mount with strace on

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, are you > building that requires clang? Firefox. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] is a global use flag necessary for python?

On 3/9/24 20:51, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 07:55:13PM +0100, n952162 wrote Hello all, I just synced my system after a long delay, That's your problem right there. Is there a way to do it globally? First of all python targets should not need to be mentioned in

Re: [gentoo-user] is a global use flag necessary for python?

On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 07:55:13PM +0100, n952162 wrote > Hello all, > > I just synced my system after a long delay, That's your problem right there. > Is there a way to do it globally? First of all python targets should not need to be mentioned in make.conf or package.use. Gentoo manages

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > >>> Running pre-merge checks for sys-libs/compiler-rt-18.1.0 > * Building using a compiler other than clang may result in broken atomics > * library. Enable USE=clang unless you have a very good reason not to. According to

[gentoo-user] is a global use flag necessary for python?

Hello all, I just synced my system after a long delay, and I want to emerge firefox.  I got this, first, I think, for something called gemato:   The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:     any-of ( python_targets_python3_10 python_targets_python3_11

Re: [gentoo-user] Musl custom initramfs kernel panic

How could I go about finding which library it is? lddtree is only giving me libblkid and libmount, both of which are already inside the initramfs. I will try to learn about busybox. Thank you. On 2024-03-09 17:23, Alexandru N. Barloiu wrote: clearly mount is using a symbol not provided by one

Re: [gentoo-user] Musl custom initramfs kernel panic

can also chroot into the environment where you prepared the initramfs image to test stuff, which will save you rebooting time. On 3/9/2024 4:03 PM, efeizbudak wrote: Hi all, After updating my musl, my custom initramfs had stopped working. Can anyone give me a hand with this? I recompiled

Re: [gentoo-user] Musl custom initramfs kernel panic

clearly mount is using a symbol not provided by one of those shared libraries, but no clue which it is. However you dont need dash and mount and umount. Reason its working for genkernel is because its using busybox instead of normal system mount/umount/dash. Might want to try that. Smaller

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On Saturday, 9 March 2024 12:49:33 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf and no problems resulting from it. > clang seems to be another "solution in search of a problem" along the > lines of rust and cups and systemd and hatbuzz, etc, which keep trying > to worm their way

[gentoo-user] Musl custom initramfs kernel panic

Hi all, After updating my musl, my custom initramfs had stopped working. Can anyone give me a hand with this? I recompiled util-linux and updated the related files in my initramfs and also tried building it with static-libs but neither of these helped. On the other hand, the initramfs I

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 08:04:06AM +, Wols Lists wrote > For anyone else who hits this sort of problem, I did an > > USE=-clang emerge --update @world > > (firefox and thunderbird were the only programs I thought this would > touch), and it worked. I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/2024 23:13, Carsten Hauck wrote: So I don't know what's going on, but basically Mozilla won't emerge, and I don't know why ... Cheers, Wol Did the other 19 package emerge OK?  Are the mozilla progs crashing when running, or when emerging?  If emerging, the log is just console

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > [...] > > Is there an easier way to do this? After some additional studying of UEFI and boot managers like rEFInd, I decided

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

On 2024-03-06, Walter Dnes wrote: > I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > >> Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option >> should ensure a working GRUB installation. > > I tried that... > > [i3][root][~] grub-install I believe you have to run

[gentoo-user] Re: CPU ISA level is lower than required

On 2024-03-04, Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > On Sonntag, 3. März 2024, 18:45:16 CET Alexander Puchmayr wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 3. März 2024, 14:32:41 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: >> > > I set CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe march=x86-64-v2" on the buildhost and >> > > performed a emerge -ev @world, re-creating

[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

On Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 07:45:40AM +0100, Arve Barsnes wrote > > Specifically in your case, Walter, that would be --efi-directory=/boot Thank you very much. A screen capture... [i3][root][~] grub-install --efi-directory=/boot Installing for x86_64-efi platform. Installation finished. No

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 04/03/2024 16:20, ralfconn wrote: Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 07:02, Dale wrote: > If you followed the docs for installing grub with EFI, you need to point it > to the location of the efi directory. The command might look like this. > > grub-install --efi-directory=/efi > > Hope that helps. > > Dale Specifically in your case,

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

Is your efi fat32 formatted? (required) This usually means its another partition mounted to /boot/EFI BillK On 6/3/24 14:02, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option should

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

Walter Dnes wrote: > I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > >> Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option >> should ensure a working GRUB installation. > I tried that... > > [i3][root][~] grub-install > Installing for x86_64-efi platform. >

[gentoo-user] Problem with "GRUB upgrades" news item

I've got a UEFI system. According to the news item... > Re-runing grub-install both with and without the --removable option > should ensure a working GRUB installation. I tried that... [i3][root][~] grub-install Installing for x86_64-efi platform. grub-install: error: cannot find EFI

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Hi, Daniel Frey writes: > I've been gone for a few days as I was rebuilding my main PC. > > I thought I'd provide an update: it was xorg-server causing all the issues. > > I figured as I had to redo everything anyway to switch to systemd and wayland > as that's what the bigger DE's tend to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not being installed:  *  *  

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU ISA level is lower than required

Hi there, Unfortunately this still did not help. I repeat my original question: Q: The binary (e.g. /usr/bin/bzip2) obviously "knows" what it requires. How do I find out what this is? Neither ldd, ld.so or the like seem to give me this information. BR Alex On Sonntag, 3. März 2024,

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:31:30 GMT Dale wrote: >> >> Since my last post, I did my weekly updates. During that, I log out, >> switch to boot runlevel, restart anything that checkrestart says needs >> it, then back to default runlevel and log back in. With the config file >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 3/3/24 13:57, Dale wrote: >> I think most is in the .config directory now.  I have to say tho, I used >> to zap that thing about once a year, sometimes two, to correct some >> things that were weird but couldn't fix otherwise.  I think the devs try >> to make things forward

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/24 at 04:18, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] AMD microkernel update failing (trying to patch zenbleed)

On 3/3/24 13:48, Michael wrote: It could be AMD have not yet released microcode updates for the community. OEMs receive new microcode first and patch it in their MoBo BIOS/UEFI firmware. Eventually the CPU manufacturers release microcode for older CPUs no longer supported by OEMs. Since you

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 3/3/24 13:57, Dale wrote: I think most is in the .config directory now.  I have to say tho, I used to zap that thing about once a year, sometimes two, to correct some things that were weird but couldn't fix otherwise.  I think the devs try to make things forward compatible but no one is

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 3/3/24 11:31, Dale wrote: >> Since my last post, I did my weekly updates.  During that, I log out, >> switch to boot runlevel, restart anything that checkrestart says needs >> it, then back to default runlevel and log back in.  With the config file >> change, my monitors

Re: [gentoo-user] AMD microkernel update failing (trying to patch zenbleed)

On Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:14:23 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: > Hi all, > > I've always had problems updating the microcode for my AMD processor. I > have various other Intel-based PCs and this has never been an issue. > > I have confirmed it's not updating: > > > ~ # dmesg | grep -i microcode > [

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:31:30 GMT Dale wrote: > Daniel Frey wrote: > > On 2/29/24 03:27, Dale wrote: > >> To provide a little more info on how this works. This is how I did > >> it. It helps a LOT to have tab completion with this. It will fill > >> in a lot of the info and when unsure, list

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 3/3/24 11:31, Dale wrote: Since my last post, I did my weekly updates.  During that, I log out, switch to boot runlevel, restart anything that checkrestart says needs it, then back to default runlevel and log back in.  With the config file change, my monitors came up just like they should.  I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 2/29/24 03:27, Dale wrote: >> To provide a little more info on how this works.  This is how I did >> it.  It helps a LOT to have tab completion with this.  It will fill >> in a lot of the info and when unsure, list the available options. >> First, I had to install the

[gentoo-user] AMD microkernel update failing (trying to patch zenbleed)

Hi all, I've always had problems updating the microcode for my AMD processor. I have various other Intel-based PCs and this has never been an issue. I have confirmed it's not updating: ~ # dmesg | grep -i microcode [0.201619] Zenbleed: please update your microcode for the most optimal

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 2/29/24 03:27, Dale wrote: To provide a little more info on how this works.  This is how I did it. It helps a LOT to have tab completion with this.  It will fill in a lot of the info and when unsure, list the available options. First, I had to install the package xrandr.  My first problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ... Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU ISA level is lower than required

Am Sonntag, 3. März 2024, 14:32:41 CET schrieb Andreas K. Huettel: > > I set CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe march=x86-64-v2" on the buildhost and performed a > > emerge -ev @world, re-creating all packages in binary form. > > > > My expectation was that these packages would work on the target platform, > >

Re: [gentoo-user] CPU ISA level is lower than required

> > I set CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe march=x86-64-v2" on the buildhost and performed a > emerge -ev @world, re-creating all packages in binary form. > > My expectation was that these packages would work on the target platform, but > they don't. Error message "CPU ISA level is lower than required". >

[gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being installed: * * >=dev-libs/icu-73.1:0/73.1= pulled in by: *

[gentoo-user] CPU ISA level is lower than required

Hi, I tried to tweak some settings regarding CFLAGS="march=x86-64-v2" on my buildhost and then install the binary packages on the target machines. Buildhost: AMD Ryzen 7 2700; ld.so --help says: Subdirectories of glibc-hwcaps directories, in priority order: x86-64-v4 x86-64-v3 (supported,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-sources-6.7.7 build error

Il 02/03/24 18:17, Holger Hoffstätte ha scritto: > On 2024-03-02 18:12, ralfconn wrote: >> I have a build error with latest gentoo-sources (~amd64): # eix -I >> gentoo-sources Installed versions: 6.7.6(6.7.6)^bs(10:37:31 >> 02/24/24)(-build -experimental -symlink) 6.7.7(6.7.7)^bs(18:43:20 >>

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-sources-6.7.7 build error

On 2024-03-02 18:12, ralfconn wrote: I have a build error with latest gentoo-sources (~amd64): # eix -I gentoo-sources Installed versions: 6.7.6(6.7.6)^bs(10:37:31 02/24/24)(-build -experimental -symlink) 6.7.7(6.7.7)^bs(18:43:20 03/01/24)(-build -experimental -symlink) # eix -I gcc Installed

[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources-6.7.7 build error

I have a build error with latest gentoo-sources (~amd64): # eix -I gentoo-sources Installed versions: 6.7.6(6.7.6)^bs(10:37:31 02/24/24)(-build -experimental -symlink) 6.7.7(6.7.7)^bs(18:43:20 03/01/24)(-build -experimental -symlink) # eix -I gcc Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 04:23:37PM -0600, Dale wrote: > > I have two questions.  Does a upgrade change it back to defaults?  If > so, there may be a file in /etc somewhere that is more permanent.  If > not, cool.  :-)  No, it's never been overwritten, so far... > How did you get the info to

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 3:24 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Paul B. Henson wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 08:53:37PM -0800, Daniel Frey wrote: > > >> After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone > have any > > >> idea why KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 05:09:01 -0500, Michael wrote: > > [1 ] > On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:52:19 GMT John Covici wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:24:06 -0500, > > > > Michael wrote: > > > [1 ] > > > > > > On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:01:52 GMT John Covici wrote: > > > > I got a

Re: [gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:52:19 GMT John Covici wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:24:06 -0500, > > Michael wrote: > > [1 ] > > > > On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:01:52 GMT John Covici wrote: > > > I got a message on my world update that said my profile which is > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 04:24:06 -0500, Michael wrote: > > [1 ] > On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:01:52 GMT John Covici wrote: > > I got a message on my world update that said my profile which is > > /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd > > / is

Re: [gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:01:52 GMT John Covici wrote: > I got a message on my world update that said my profile which is > /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd > / is depricated and no longer supported. So, afterr this update is > finished, which

[gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

I got a message on my world update that said my profile which is /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd/ is depricated and no longer supported. So, afterr this update is finished, which one should I switch to -- portage says to use

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 6:25 PM Adam Carter wrote: >> >> The other thing is, look up the definition (such as there is) of CSVs. >> Special characters (such as commas) can be quoted. Standard practice as >> far as I can tell, is that any cell containing a comma will be >> double-quoted, and the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

> The other thing is, look up the definition (such as there is) of CSVs. > Special characters (such as commas) can be quoted. Standard practice as > far as I can tell, is that any cell containing a comma will be > double-quoted, and the quotes are stripped on import. > Thanks - looks like quoting

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 3:24 PM Dale wrote: > > Paul B. Henson wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 08:53:37PM -0800, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have any > >> idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? > > . I ended up adding

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 08:53:37PM -0800, Daniel Frey wrote: >> After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have any >> idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? > . I ended up adding this to /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup: > > xrandr

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 08:53:37PM -0800, Daniel Frey wrote: > After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have any > idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? . I ended up adding this to /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup: xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --primary --output

[gentoo-user] Heads-up: grub-mkconfig generates bad configs for root-on-ZFS with fully-updated pool

This is a quick heads-up for folks who use grub, have their root filesystem on ZFS and boot from it with an initramfs (i.e. not directly from grub), and have fully upgraded their pool to 2.2.2. In that configuration, grub-mkconfig (grub-probe, actually) fails to recognize the pool, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

On 28/02/2024 02:17, Jack wrote: On 2/27/24 20:54, Adam Carter wrote: To clean up csv files I use excel's find/replace to swap the commas occurring within fields for something benign. How does this magic work? Different character sets within the same file? Is it possible to do this with

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

On 2/27/24 20:54, Adam Carter wrote: To clean up csv files I use excel's find/replace to swap the commas occurring within fields for something benign. How does this magic work? Different character sets within the same file? Is it possible to do this with shell scripting? Once Excel (or

[gentoo-user] OT: how does excel find commas within fields of a csv file?

To clean up csv files I use excel's find/replace to swap the commas occurring within fields for something benign. How does this magic work? Different character sets within the same file? Is it possible to do this with shell scripting?

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 2/25/24 10:17, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:35 AM Daniel Frey > wrote: > I probably should have added more details... I do have an nvidia card - > RTX 3070Ti. Monitors use 2x DP ports and 1x HDMI port. > > KDE behaves very strangely. Like, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:12:07 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: > I have no experience beyond three operating systems on a single machine > but if you grabbed just 2 or 3 USB flash drives then I would think you > could test it pretty easily. I believe the UEFI boot procedures are > storing a unique

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and side pain not updating when mounting drives

Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I been noticing this for a while now.  It started maybe a couple months > ago.  At first, I figured it is a bug and will be fixed but now I wonder > if it is just me.  As some know, I have a lot of hard drives.  Sometimes > I unmount those drives and naturally Dolphin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 4:45 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like > >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. > >> > > And then, if USB isn't the

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. >> > And then, if USB isn't the default boot media, he might as well sort out > UEFI boot, and multi-boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions. Availability and upgrading from old kernel.

Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I did my update and noticed the message about changes to kernel > packages.  Depending on how I read it, it sounds like gentoo-sources is > still available just that older versions are no longer updated as long.  > If I read it a different way, it sounds like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot > different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2/26/24 11:01, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: >> You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date >> from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting >> subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in and running the update. > > To

Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in and running the update. To avoid grub not being able to point to a

Re: [gentoo-user] How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

Since this is a fairly custom task, I would approach it with a custom solution. - GPT - systemd-boot - One /boot partition - One BTRFS-on-LUKS partition (formatted using the distro with the oldest kernel) - {@root,@home,@var,@srv,@opt}-{distro1,distro2,distro3} subvolumes - Potentially

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 10:35 AM Daniel Frey wrote: > I probably should have added more details... I do have an nvidia card - > RTX 3070Ti. Monitors use 2x DP ports and 1x HDMI port. > > KDE behaves very strangely. Like, it crashes often when using multiple > monitors and I've never been able to

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sunday, 25 February 2024 17:36:25 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: > On 2/25/24 01:01, Michael wrote: > > I used to experience the same when using Xorg with AMD-Radeon graphics > > instead of Nvidia, but since I moved to Wayland the problem of losing > > screen settings has gone. One monitor is using

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 2/25/24 01:01, Michael wrote: I used to experience the same when using Xorg with AMD-Radeon graphics instead of Nvidia, but since I moved to Wayland the problem of losing screen settings has gone. One monitor is using the DVI port of the card and the other HDMI. It should be worth trying

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On 2/24/24 21:52, Dale wrote: I have two monitors too, sort of.  One monitor is for computer stuff, checking email, surfing the net etc etc etc.  The other monitor I use to watch TV with.  The output from the video card second output goes to a splitter so I can have the same video in both my

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 25 February 2024 05:52:20 GMT Dale wrote: >> Daniel Frey wrote: >>> After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have >>> any idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? >>> >>> All I'm trying to do is get it to remember *where* my monitors

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sunday, February 25, 2024 3:53:37 P.M. AEDT Daniel Frey wrote: > After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have any > idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? > > All I'm trying to do is get it to remember *where* my monitors are (I > have two side-by-side and

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

On Sunday, 25 February 2024 05:52:20 GMT Dale wrote: > Daniel Frey wrote: > > After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have > > any idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? > > > > All I'm trying to do is get it to remember *where* my monitors are (I > > have

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

Daniel Frey wrote: > After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have > any idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? > > All I'm trying to do is get it to remember *where* my monitors are (I > have two side-by-side and one above the right monitor.) I go into >

[gentoo-user] Why is KDE so bad at multiple monitors?

After cursing KDE for a while with three monitors, does anyone have any idea why KDE is so bad at managing multiple monitors? All I'm trying to do is get it to remember *where* my monitors are (I have two side-by-side and one above the right monitor.) I go into System Settings, set it up and

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > The only other idea I had was to install to a different > disk and then use something like Clonezilla to move it to the partition > you want it in on your system. > > While I suspect you were being sarcastic I do not think any solution > that involves a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards < grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different > >> distros on a single disk and

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different >> distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. >> > > Given performance does drop a bit and there can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > > The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different > distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. > Given performance does drop a bit and there can be issues with allocating hardware, why not use

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-23, Wols Lists wrote: > On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other >> installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging >> through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, >> intird files, grub.cfg

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, intird files, grub.cfg files, etc. It then adds menu entries to the

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-23, Michael wrote: > The problem starts if/when kernel images are overwritten by > successive Linux OS distros. This is likely when derivatives of the > same main distros e.g. Ubuntu all create a directory called > /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP and drop their kernels & initrd images in >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-23, Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or > at least they allow to do it). Yes, I belive that they are all now using Grub2. > If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite > the GRUB in MBR as many times

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On Friday, 23 February 2024 00:28:59 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any > >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files > >> in the ESP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

Hello! I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or at least they allow to do it). If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite the GRUB in MBR as many times as they want, since it's the same (or just probably minor version differences) bootloader.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files >> in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name in the >> boot slots

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name in the boot slots stored in NVM. And then the boot choice

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 19:17, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> However, the choice to install bootloaders in partitions instead of >> the MBR has been removed from most (all?) of the common installers. >> This forces me to jump through hoops when installing a new Linux >> distro: > >

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