Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-18 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 17:46:04 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > The homepage returned by > > > >$ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo > >* sys-boot/elilo > > Available versions: ~3.16-r5 > > ... > >$ > > > > hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( > > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:41:20 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > ... > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-16 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Wol: > > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > > never let it near my systems. > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread karl
Wol: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > never let > > it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( ... Still available and still working on non-uefi setups:

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let it near my systems. I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do everything itself - and if you've got at all a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:42:14 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate > > /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that > > a successful hacker would not,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that a successful hacker would not, supposedly, be able to corrupt the kernel ready for a reboot into their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/05/2024 10:35, Michael wrote: Besides the automation this feature affords, I find it useful to know what a partition contains without having to mount it. On GPT labelled disks I make use both of the Partition Type UUID and the Partition Name. A quick glance at the gdisk output and if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > OK, so 'boot' is for the Linux /boot directory. I was just curious > > since I had never used one. When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: > The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be > >>> 8302, but I've always

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >>> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >>> for

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >> for both /home and root. >> >> Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this >> thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do >> better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  >> This is what the partition

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this > thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do > better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  > This is what the partition table looks like for GPT, old

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > One last update.  I found a video.  They were using gdisk but the > crucial part, he got it to display the partition layout.  It was like I > described as for as the alignment thing, tiny partition with ef02 and > then carry on as usual from there.  > > I need to do this on a disk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Wol
On 28/04/2024 17:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using a GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > >> That empty space does not exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >> That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using >> a GPT disk label,

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using > a GPT disk label, Grub requires that you need

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-04-27, Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like >> to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my >> drives, regardless of size. > > GPT is the partition table

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-14 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 12/13/2020 09:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> >>> I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 >>> >>> But now when i try to install grub: >>> >>> grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread thelma
On 12/13/2020 09:05 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > >> I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 >> >> But now when i try to install grub: >> >> grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 >> Installing for i386-pc platform. >> grub-install: warning:

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.

2020-12-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-12-14, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I removed "vfat" boot partition and created/change it to ext2 > > But now when i try to install grub: > > grub-install /dev/nvme0n1p2 > Installing for i386-pc platform. > grub-install: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Jack
On 11/26/20 8:48 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:01:22 -0600, Dale wrote: I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore. So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch. I had a feeling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 07:35:20 -0600, Dale wrote: > Dare I mention hal?? Please don't :-( -- Neil Bothwick I distinctly remember forgetting that. pgphjboaJku8G.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 05:01:22 -0600, Dale wrote: > I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his > machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  > So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  I had a feeling that what what he had done. I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Dale
Thomas Mueller wrote: >> I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his >> machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  >> So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  >> Miss the guy but glad he is OK and nothing happened to him.  >> Dale >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I got a message from him.  At least we will know he is OK.  All his > machines was switched to Arch Linux and he wasn't using Gentoo anymore.  > So, he unsubscribed and got active with Arch.  > Miss the guy but glad he is OK and nothing happened to him.  > Dale > :-)  :-)  When I sent

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-26 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: >> >>> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our >>> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a >>> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 23:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive definition from which to load the boot sector. I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. It's more like a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive > >> > definition from which to load the boot sector. > >> > >> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. > > > > It's more like a partition

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive >> > definition from which to load the boot sector. >> >> I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:04:26 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive > > definition from which to load the boot sector. > > I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. It's more like a partition definition, GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: > >> P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our >> other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a >> bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." >> >> That was certainly the behavior described [...] >> >> But that relys on the assumption that the distros all run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:20:41 GMT Dale wrote: > P. S. I been meaning to ask this for ages now. What happened to our > other Allan? I think he was from Africa or something and admin'd a > bunch of puters there. McKinnon or something like that was the past > name. I haven't seen him

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:20:04 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > "GRUB 2 can read files directly from LVM and RAID devices." > > That was certainly the behavior described by the examples documented > by people who were using grub to boot multiple partitions by having a > master copy of grub

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> I *think* the grub volume itself has to be plain, no lvm, mdadm etc. All >> the stuff for that is in the initramfs, so grub loads the initramfs, >> starts the kernel, the kernel starts pid 1 which can now start

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-25, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB >> >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes. >> >> >> >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the >> >> distro's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:53:02 +, Wols Lists wrote: > >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB > >>> doesn't read from LVM volumes. > >> > >> Then what does grub's "lvm" module do, and how does it read the > >> distro's .cfg files from the LVM volumes in which the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread Wols Lists
On 24/11/20 23:39, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as chainloading a "real" partition? >>> >>> I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 23:25:38 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as > >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > > read from LVM volumes. > > Then

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-24 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 19:04:20 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > >> In grub, does chainloading an LVM virtual partition work the same as >> chainloading a "real" partition? > > I suspect not as GRUB will be reading the menu files and GRUB doesn't > read from

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub problems on old proliant

2018-03-22 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
sorry, it was silly of me to try to install one grub on top of another.  managed to foul up grub, putting secondary os back in so i can do it right.  hopefully i can just update grub manually. mad.scientist.at.large (a good madscientist) -- God bless the rich, the greedy and the corrupt

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-04 18:13, Daniel Frey wrote: > I guess I'll have to remember to use 500M+ /boot partitions now. Sigh. I don't get it. matica!7 rc$ du /boot/grub 2022/boot/grub/i386-pc 1340/boot/grub/fonts 2785/boot/grub/themes/starfield 2786/boot/grub/themes 3163

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/02/2017 09:18 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> You do need to run "emerge -e @world", unless you happened to be using >> a hardened toolchain already. > > But only if you in fact switch the new profile on, right? Right. > There seems to be another thing afoot, though. All (or nearly so) >

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-02 20:14, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> You're seeing a lot of reports because there is a news item telling > >> people to switch to the new profile and run "emerge -e @world". > > > > Does this mean that "emerge -e @world" should be run or that the > > news item is wrong in this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Adam Carter
> * Select the new profile with eselect > * Re-emerge, in this sequence, gcc, binutils, and glibc > emerge -1 sys-devel/gcc:6.4.0 > emerge -1 sys-devel/binutils > emerge -1 sys-libs/glibc > * Rebuild your entire system > emerge -e @world > Would emerge -e --exclude gcc --exclude

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/02/2017 08:07 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 2 Dec 2017 18:33:09 -0500 > schrieb Michael Orlitzky : > >> You're seeing a lot of reports because there is a news item telling >> people to switch to the new profile and run "emerge -e @world". > > Does this mean that "emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 2 Dec 2017 18:33:09 -0500 schrieb Michael Orlitzky : > You're seeing a lot of reports because there is a news item telling > people to switch to the new profile and run "emerge -e @world". Does this mean that "emerge -e @world" should be run or that the news item is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/02/2017 04:28 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > This profile change seems to have hit a few people in sensitive > locations. > > What is the upshot of this change? Can I eyeball the diff _before_ I > sync ? > The new 17.0 profile switches the default C++ version to C++14, and enables PIE/SSP by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Mick
On 02-12-2017 ,13:28:37, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > This profile change seems to have hit a few people in sensitive > locations. > > What is the upshot of this change? Can I eyeball the diff _before_ I > sync ? This is what the news item states: = ~ $ eselect news

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
This profile change seems to have hit a few people in sensitive locations. What is the upshot of this change? Can I eyeball the diff _before_ I sync ? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_

[gentoo-user] Re: grub error I've never seen in many installs

2017-07-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Hinnerk van Bruinehsen writes: >> Has something changed regarding using that kind of technique? >> >> I can't figure out why grub would be looking for a GRUB drive on >> /dev/sda1 as the error says: >> >> grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub error I've never seen in many installs

2017-07-12 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 05:57:58PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > Arve Barsnes writes: > > > On 10 July 2017 at 22:06, Harry Putnam wrote: > > > >> grub-install /dev/sda Installing for i386-pc platform. > >> grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB

[gentoo-user] Re: grub error I've never seen in many installs

2017-07-12 Thread Harry Putnam
Arve Barsnes writes: > On 10 July 2017 at 22:06, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> grub-install /dev/sda Installing for i386-pc platform. >> grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda1. Check >> your device.map. >> >> Where might I find

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub:2 first experience with it

2017-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:05:11 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > You're supposed to use a video= parameter but I find the old school > > vga=794 works for me. The thing you have to learn with using GRUB, or > > at least when using grub-mkconfig, is that you don't edit grub.cfg > > but

[gentoo-user] Re: grub:2 first experience with it

2017-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick writes: > You're supposed to use a video= parameter but I find the old school > vga=794 works for me. The thing you have to learn with using GRUB, or at > least when using grub-mkconfig, is that you don't edit grub.cfg > but /etc/default/grub when you want to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub:2 first experience with it

2017-02-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:20:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > What can you tell me about how to get an initial hi-res frame buffer > during boot and after when in console mode? KMS takes care of that with real hardware, but not so much with virtual hardware. > I know how to do it in grub:0. But I

[gentoo-user] Re: grub:2 first experience with it

2017-02-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick writes: >> But no update-grub > > update-grub is an Ubuntuism, not part of standard GRUB. It's only a one > line shell script that runs > > grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > > Even a large proportion of Ubuntu users would be able to manage without > it.

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread James
Steven Lembark lembark at wrkhors.com writes: Solution that works for me: - Compile the kernel with everything built-in leaving modules for the few things that really need to be reloadable. Turn everything in the bloody thing off. This avoids the need for a kernel-specific

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: So if I do this, what will I have to do to keep the system booting. Nothing, I installed r7 on June 26th and the system just kept booting. You can run grub-install if you really want to, but as this is a patch level update to the same version,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread wraeth
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:36:51AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: could try it on. But it's a headless MythTV backend in the loft, so there will be fun and games if it doesn't boot. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say there will be _no_ fun and games if it doesn't boot? -- wraeth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:54:31 -0400, Jonathan Callen wrote: The Gummiboot project is no longer maintained, it has been merged into systemd as systemd-boot (note that using any other part of Systemd should *not* be required to use systemd-boot, but I don't know for sure because I do not have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread wraeth
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:40:16AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:45:59 +1000, wraeth wrote: could try it on. But it's a headless MythTV backend in the loft, so there will be fun and games if it doesn't boot. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say there will be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:45:59 +1000, wraeth wrote: could try it on. But it's a headless MythTV backend in the loft, so there will be fun and games if it doesn't boot. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say there will be _no_ fun and games if it doesn't boot? Well, with no TV to watch, I'd

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: The don't use it, grub:0 still works just fine It's all working fine (atm). But changes are problematic, or at least they have been in the past I gave grub-2 a try earlier this week and once again couldn;t figure out how to install that

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes: Grub-2.02_beta2-r3  wants to upgrade to grub-2.02_beta2-r7    It looks like he’s going from grub-2.02 to grub-2.02. I don’t think any action is necessary. Notice r3-- r7 Grub 2 can be a bear in sheep's clothing I know that for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread Steven Lembark
Solution that works for me: - Compile the kernel with everything built-in leaving modules for the few things that really need to be reloadable. Turn everything in the bloody thing off. This avoids the need for a kernel-specific filestem in the initrd. - This since you don't need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 16.07.2015 um 22:05 schrieb James: I spent days during early kernel upgrades getting grub2 happy. You only need to run `grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg` after each kernel update. I'm using grub2 not for such a long time, but I made some kernel upgrades since I switched from grub-legacy

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread James
Jarry mr.jarry at gmail.com writes: I have similar setup as you and upgraded grub without any problem. If beta2-r3 worked for you, beta2-r7 will as well. If you did not disable /boot automount, there are no special steps needed. Portage will mount /boot, update grub, and dismound

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread Jarry
On 16-Jul-15 22:08, James wrote: I have similar setup as you and upgraded grub without any problem. If beta2-r3 worked for you, beta2-r7 will as well. If you did not disable /boot automount, there are no special steps needed. Portage will mount /boot, update grub, and dismound afterwards...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:01:29 + (UTC), James wrote: I gave grub-2 a try earlier this week and once again couldn;t figure out how to install that mini-OS that bootstraps a boot loader which bootstraps a boot loader which loads code that loads a kernel. So back to grub:0 for me I do

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-2 update

2015-07-16 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2015-07-16 17:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 20:01:29 + (UTC), James wrote: I gave grub-2 a try earlier this week and once again couldn;t figure out how to install that mini-OS that bootstraps a boot loader which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub doesn't autoselect a kernel

2015-07-10 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I have grub running on many Gentoo machines but on one of them it sits on the kernel selection screen and doesn't autoboot even though the menu says: The highlighted entry will be booted automatically in 2 seconds. Nothing

[gentoo-user] Re: grub doesn't autoselect a kernel

2015-07-10 Thread Grant
I have grub running on many Gentoo machines but on one of them it sits on the kernel selection screen and doesn't autoboot even though the menu says: The highlighted entry will be booted automatically in 2 seconds. Nothing happens for any length of time but pressing Enter boots the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub - gummiboot: good

2015-01-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.01.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Jonathan Callen: You have mounted your ESP on /boot, so you need to tell grub *that* is your ESP, not /boot/efi, like so: # grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot Once you do that, everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub - gummiboot: good

2015-01-30 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 30.01.2015 um 11:05 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 30.01.2015 um 02:34 schrieb Jonathan Callen: You have mounted your ESP on /boot, so you need to tell grub *that* is your ESP, not /boot/efi, like so: # grub2-install --target=x86_64-efi

[gentoo-user] Re: grub - gummiboot: good

2015-01-29 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01/28/2015 06:08 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: On 28.01.2015 23:51, Tom H wrote: Why two EFIs? One of them's unnecessary but if you want to have both, you have to have them both in the efibootmgr invocation. I don't know why. What

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-mkconfig doesn't pick UUID/LABEL

2014-08-09 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: When I run grub-mkconfig (it's grub2, -multislot), it generates root=/dev/md127p2. md arrays get assembled at boot so their numbers aren't fixed. So far I've been manually editing the generated config. But I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: There are scripts to automatically generate a configuration but grub-mkconfig is no more compulsory than genkernel - but both can make life easier when setting up multiple, different systems. Neil et al, Where is the BEST (gentoo) grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:57:27 + (UTC), James wrote: Where is the BEST (gentoo) grub2 documentation? I'm not saying it's the best, but the one I used to switch over is http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2 -- Neil Bothwick Bugs are Sons of Glitches signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread Claudio Roberto França Pereira
mike, I'd DEFINITELY LOVE to read grub's history, even if it's a short summary or something. TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC, but anyone could recommend me a open source/linux/unix/free software history book? Something that mentioned the FSF foundation, the GPL creation, the XFree86 - X.org evolution, linux

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Claudio Roberto França Pereira spide...@gmail.com wrote: mike, I'd DEFINITELY LOVE to read grub's history, even if it's a short summary or something. TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC, but anyone could recommend me a open source/linux/unix/free software history book?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread Doug Hunley
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:11, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:57:27 + (UTC), James wrote: Where is the BEST (gentoo) grub2 documentation? I'm not saying it's the best, but the one I used to switch over is http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2 One thing I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:33:06 -0500, Doug Hunley wrote: I'm not saying it's the best, but the one I used to switch over is http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2 One thing I don't see addressed is having /boot on a RAID1 setup. For Grub Legacy, I do: grub device (hd0) /dev/sda grub

[gentoo-user] Re: grub vs grub 2

2012-02-14 Thread James
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes: sys-boot/grub has two slots. The default slot 0 with version numbers around 0.92-0.97 is grub-1 (or grub legacy). Slot 2 with version numbers around 1.99 is grub-2. Because it is still in development hell, it has not reached version 2.00. OK,

[gentoo-user] Re: grub menu and the new openrc

2011-05-15 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/15/2011 01:34 PM, Dale wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: No

[gentoo-user] Re: grub installation problem

2011-01-12 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr writes: Hi all, I am installing Gentoo on a new pc and following the Gentoo manual. I create primary partition sda3 for boot with ext3 file system, then Extended partition for swap sda5 / sda6 with reiserfs file system /usr sda7 with reiserfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: grub installation problem

2011-01-12 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 12/01/2011 20:07, Nuno J. Silva a écrit : Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr writes: Hi all, I am installing Gentoo on a new pc and following the Gentoo manual. I create primary partition sda3 for boot with ext3 file system, then Extended partition for swap sda5 / sda6 with

[gentoo-user] Re: grub installation problem

2011-01-12 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr writes: Le 12/01/2011 20:07, Nuno J. Silva a écrit : Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr writes: Hi all, I am installing Gentoo on a new pc and following the Gentoo manual. I create primary partition sda3 for boot with ext3 file

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-19 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 17 February 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: One thing that could be at fault is that I had grub installed into hd0,2 (sda3) which is an ext4 partition. I think that this is probably the cause. GRUB has these stage 1.5 fs related files: `e2fs_stage1_5' `fat_stage1_5'

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:17:07 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I've no idea how it broke, but after an emerge --sync, a kernel (gentoo-sources) update was there. After I compiled the kernel, I did the usual make modules_install make install. I edited grub.conf only to

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-16 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I've no idea how it broke, but after an emerge --sync, a kernel (gentoo-sources) update was there. After I compiled the kernel, I did the usual make modules_install make install. I edited grub.conf only to the point of changing the booted kernel to the new one (just

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