Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 21:21:16 +0100, Hartmut Figge wrote: > Mostly stable Gentoo. After having fun with linguas *g* > > !!! existing preserved libs found What's the rest of this output, it should list the packages and files involved. > i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -q @preserved-rebuild > > emerge:

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure

2018-01-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
Greetings, Mostly stable Gentoo. After having fun with linguas *g* !!! existing preserved libs found i5-64 /home/hafi # emerge -q @preserved-rebuild emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-lang/ruby:2.1". (dependency required by "@preserved-rebuild" [argument]) [?] dev-lang/ruby

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, This is a mostly stable machine. Why is what I think is the stable version of libgnomecanvas-python failing to build? The newer version portage (2.28.1) requires masked packages so that's not a good option. What's a person to do? Thanks, Mark c2stable ~ # eix libgnomecanvas-python

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 June 2010 20:25:03 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, This is a mostly stable machine. Why is what I think is the stable version of libgnomecanvas-python failing to build? The newer version portage (2.28.1) requires masked packages so that's not a good option. What's a person

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2010 20:25:03 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi,    This is a mostly stable machine. Why is what I think is the stable version of libgnomecanvas-python failing to build?    The newer version portage (2.28.1)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Different machine getting updated and for the same failure but it occurred on a different package. - Mark /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -I/usr/include/libglade-2.0

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 27 June 2010 21:42:14 Mark Knecht wrote: Failed to emerge dev-python/libgnomecanvas-python-2.28.0, Log file: The build error is before this. Please post that. Everything below is various elogs to tell you that an error occured, not what it is. -- alan dot

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 27 June 2010 21:42:14 Mark Knecht wrote: Failed to emerge dev-python/libgnomecanvas-python-2.28.0, Log file: The build error is before this. Please post that. Everything below is various elogs to tell

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild failure...

2010-06-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP emerge @preserved-rebuild is now running again. I'll post back results later. Thanks, Mark So it seems that after a couple of times through each of these tools, and along with changes to firefox-bin to take care

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there are no ebuilds to satisfy kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 That's true but I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there are no ebuilds to satisfy

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Montag, 18. Januar 2010 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there are no

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild - how to force it to run?

2010-01-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:46:23 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: because of that KDE3/4 mess I have to keep kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 (I still need kexi which is not available for koffice, yet.) But now, emerge @preserved-rebuild doesn't work anymore since it terminates after telling me there

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:58:31 -0600, Dale wrote: Can you accept the fact that KDE dropped support for KDE 3? Of course, they have stated so themselves. KDE dropped the ball. This is the statement I disagreed with. Dropping support is a fact, based on a sound decision. This statement is you

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:58:31 -0600, Dale wrote: Can you accept the fact that KDE dropped support for KDE 3? Of course, they have stated so themselves. KDE dropped the ball. This is the statement I disagreed with. Dropping support is a fact, based on a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread pk
Dale wrote: You say they dropped support. I call it dropping the ball. Same thing. Sorry for butting in... As I understand it, KDE development is mostly driven by volunteers (like most OSS projects). Yes, some are probably paid/employed by interested parties but this doesn't really change

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:20:34 -0600, Dale wrote: You say they dropped support. I call it dropping the ball. Same thing. No it's not. One is a bald statement of fact, the other contains a judgement by using negative terminology. As bad as I hate M$, one thing I can say, they have never to my

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Stroller
On 10 Jan 2010, at 19:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Most reasonable people agree that KDE should have supported KDE 3 for at least a few more months. Do you have a citation for that? Preferably one that doesn't define reasonable people as those that think KDE 3.5 should still be developed :)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:41:51 +, Stroller wrote: reasonable people = those who agree with me. Or pay you lots of money, even if they can't write an email to save their life ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Synonym: a word you use when you can't spell the other one. signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
pk wrote: Dale wrote: You say they dropped support. I call it dropping the ball. Same thing. Sorry for butting in... As I understand it, KDE development is mostly driven by volunteers (like most OSS projects). Yes, some are probably paid/employed by interested parties but this

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:20:34 -0600, Dale wrote: You say they dropped support. I call it dropping the ball. Same thing. No it's not. One is a bald statement of fact, the other contains a judgement by using negative terminology. If they didn't drop the ball,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 10 Jan 2010, at 19:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Most reasonable people agree that KDE should have supported KDE 3 for at least a few more months. Do you have a citation for that? Preferably one that doesn't define reasonable people as those that think KDE 3.5 should still

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 10 January 2010 23:45:13 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 10 Jan 2010, at 19:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: ... Most reasonable people agree that KDE should have supported KDE 3 for at least a few more months. Do you have a citation for that?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:44:21 -0600, Dale wrote: No it's not. One is a bald statement of fact, the other contains a judgement by using negative terminology. If they didn't drop the ball, They didn't, they made a decision. You may not like that decision, but that does not make it a mistake

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:44:21 -0600, Dale wrote: No it's not. One is a bald statement of fact, the other contains a judgement by using negative terminology. If they didn't drop the ball, They didn't, they made a decision. You may not like that

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:16:05 -0600, Dale wrote: So, as I have been saying all along, repeatedly, Gentoo did not drop the ball here, KDE did. It's their ball, they can do whatever they like with it. It doesn't matter how much you complain, if unpaid, volunteer developers want to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:16:05 -0600, Dale wrote: So, as I have been saying all along, repeatedly, Gentoo did not drop the ball here, KDE did. It's their ball, they can do whatever they like with it. It doesn't matter how much you complain, if unpaid,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:39:58 -0600, Dale wrote: No, it was the decision Red Hat made before they sold distros with X year support contracts, to provide a guaranteed level of support to their customers. Someone mentioned that 62% of KDE devs are unpaid, who do you think pays the other 38%.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-09 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:39:58 -0600, Dale wrote: No, it was the decision Red Hat made before they sold distros with X year support contracts, to provide a guaranteed level of support to their customers. Someone mentioned that 62% of KDE devs are unpaid, who do you think

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 08 January 2010 00:25:03 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan -

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 08 January 2010 10:06:27 Dale wrote: Yes, that's reasonable. RH shipped KDE-3.5 with fully supported versions of RHEL, and those versions are still current. So just like RH backport useful kernel code into their shipped versions, we can expect RH to at least deal with critical

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:06, Dale wrote: ... But KDE still dropped the support tho? That was my point. It wasn't Redhat, Gentoo, SuSe or some other distro or even me that dropped it, it was KDE that dropped it. 62% of KDE's developers are unpaid volunteers. [1] We program for the sheer joy

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Stroller
On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... The kde-sunset maintainer could even be you. I had my first patch accepted to an upstream project this week. It was only about 70 lines of Perl (and some of those were basically just refactoring what the author had already written into a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 08 January 2010 12:34:39 Stroller wrote: On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... The kde-sunset maintainer could even be you. I had my first patch accepted to an upstream project this week. It was only about 70 lines of Perl (and some of those were basically just

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 8 Jan 2010, at 08:06, Dale wrote: ... But KDE still dropped the support tho? That was my point. It wasn't Redhat, Gentoo, SuSe or some other distro or even me that dropped it, it was KDE that dropped it. 62% of KDE's developers are unpaid volunteers. [1] We program

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 09 January 2010 00:04:28 Dale wrote: Honestly, I don't care if it is 100% volunteers. They dropped the support and a LOT of people, including me, are at the very least not happy about it. Dale, FFS, please stop whinging about KDE-3 This is getting like an old record stuck in

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:04:28 -0600, Dale wrote: So, as I have been saying all along, repeatedly, Gentoo did not drop the ball here, KDE did. It's their ball, they can do whatever they like with it. It doesn't matter how much you complain, if unpaid, volunteer developers want to work on the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 09 January 2010 00:04:28 Dale wrote: Honestly, I don't care if it is 100% volunteers. They dropped the support and a LOT of people, including me, are at the very least not happy about it. Dale, FFS, please stop whinging about KDE-3 This is getting

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-08 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:04:28 -0600, Dale wrote: So, as I have been saying all along, repeatedly, Gentoo did not drop the ball here, KDE did. It's their ball, they can do whatever they like with it. It doesn't matter how much you complain, if unpaid, volunteer

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-07 Thread Stroller
On 6 Jan 2010, at 18:57, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Between KDE Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers? In volunteer

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they have each chosen where to spend

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-07 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they have each

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-07 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 6 Jan 2010, at 18:57, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Between KDE Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 08 January 2010 00:25:03 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-06 Thread Stroller
On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Dale Between KDE Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers? In volunteer development it's normal necessary to focus on the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-06 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Dale Between KDE Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers? In volunteer development it's normal necessary

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-06 Thread Show
I'm also pretty sure that Gentoo doesn't do development work on Gnome, Fluxbox, Apache, MySql and other packages. They just make ebuilds and put them in the tree so people can use them. if there is something unconvenient with used on the software ,gentoo will talk to the authors still , right ?

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-05 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, emerge @preserved-rebuild fails to do any updating since a single (needed) package has been masked. But I do need to keep kdelibs:3.5 which pulls in kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi:3.5 which has been masked. Is it possible to tell emerge to do the other updates which don't need this? Dropping kde:3.5

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-05 Thread Alex Schuster
Helmut Jarausch writes: emerge @preserved-rebuild fails to do any updating since a single (needed) package has been masked. But I do need to keep kdelibs:3.5 which pulls in kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi:3.5 which has been masked. Is it possible to tell emerge to do the other updates which don't

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:35:46 +0100 (CET), Helmut Jarausch wrote: But I do need to keep kdelibs:3.5 which pulls in kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi:3.5 which has been masked. Unmask it. Dropping kde:3.5 too early is one of the biggest disappointsment of GenToo! For someone who needs some package

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked

2010-01-05 Thread Dale
Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, emerge @preserved-rebuild fails to do any updating since a single (needed) package has been masked. But I do need to keep kdelibs:3.5 which pulls in kde-misc/kdnssd-avahi:3.5 which has been masked. Is it possible to tell emerge to do the other updates which don't

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-11-02 Thread Alex Schuster
Robin Atwood wrote: On Thursday 29 October 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: [...] emerge -a @preserved-rebuild suggests to rebuild two packages, but continues to do so after emerging them. [...] r...@tanja src -- emerge -a @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-10-29 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! Any idea why this happens? It's no problem, I'm just curious. r...@tanja src -- emerge -a @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild R ] app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-gtklibs-20071214 [ebuild R ]

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild loop

2009-10-29 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 29 October 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! Any idea why this happens? It's no problem, I'm just curious. r...@tanja src -- emerge -a @preserved-rebuild These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild R ]

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-07-02 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
on 06/27/2008 12:36 PM Zhang Le said the following: On 13:18 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented somewhere? All you need to do is to run 'emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-06-27 Thread Zhang Le
On 13:18 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented somewhere? All you need to do is to run 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' when you are reminded to. If you want to know

[gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-06-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries There's no reference to this @preserved-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-06-26 Thread Zhang Le
On 11:12 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge @preserved-rebuild to rebuild packages using these libraries

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-06-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Zhang Le wrote: On 11:12 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: Lately emerge-2.2 has been issuing output like this: !!! existing preserved libs: package: dev-libs/eet- * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0 * - /usr/lib/libeet.so.0.9.99900 Use emerge