Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Need link Dave On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 1:52 AM Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 18/12/2022 22:11, Dale wrote: > >> Wol wrote: > >>> On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: > Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups. I did have to > change the options a bit. It seems

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dave On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 2:54 PM Wol wrote: > On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: > > Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups. I did have to > > change the options a bit. It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the > > permissions or something. > > Are you running the rsync daemon

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 21/12/2022 20:40, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Yes? In a mirror setup, all member drives of a mirror have the same content (at least in ZFS). Raid 10 distributes its content across several mirrors. This is the cause for its increased performance. So when one of the mirrors (not single drive,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 08:03:36PM + schrieb Wol: > On 21/12/2022 06:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 05:53:03AM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > > > On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: > > > > I think if I can hold out a little while, something really nice is going > > >

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On 21/12/2022 06:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 05:53:03AM + schrieb Wols Lists: On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: I think if I can hold out a little while, something really nice is going to come along.  It seems there is a good bit of interest in having a Raspberry

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 11:52 PM Dale wrote: > This is why at some point, I'd like to have two sets of backups. RAID > or not. Amazon Snowball? :-) ;-) MArk

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On 21/12/22 14:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 05:53:03AM + schrieb Wols Lists: On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: ... In layman’s term, a stripe of mirrors. Raid-1 is the mirror, Raid-0 a (JBOD) pool. So mirror + pool = mirrorpool, hence the 1+0 → 10. ... I tend

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Wols Lists wrote: > On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: >> I think if I can hold out a little while, something really nice is going >> to come along.  It seems there is a good bit of interest in having a >> Raspberry Pi NAS that gives really good performance.  I'm talking a NAS >> that is about the

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 05:53:03AM + schrieb Wols Lists: > On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: > > I think if I can hold out a little while, something really nice is going > > to come along.  It seems there is a good bit of interest in having a > > Raspberry Pi NAS that gives really good

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 21/12/2022 02:47, Dale wrote: I think if I can hold out a little while, something really nice is going to come along.  It seems there is a good bit of interest in having a Raspberry Pi NAS that gives really good performance.  I'm talking a NAS that is about the same speed as a internal drive. 

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Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:08:02PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > I just read a news story about a new NAS model from Terramaster. > (Interestingly, they have their OS on an internal USB stick, so it’s easy to > swap it out for a standard Linux. And it uses a nice Celeron

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Am Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:08:02PM -0600 schrieb Dale: I just read a news story about a new NAS model from Terramaster. (Interestingly, they have their OS on an internal USB stick, so it’s easy to swap it out for a standard Linux. And it uses a nice Celeron N5100 x86 processor.) > Eventually, I

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Wols Lists wrote: > On 18/12/2022 22:11, Dale wrote: >> Wol wrote: >>> On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups.  I did have to change the options a bit.  It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the permissions or something. >>> >>> Are

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 12/18/22 23:08, Dale wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Dale wrote: > root@truenas[~]# iperf -s > > Server listening on TCP port 5001 > TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default) >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 18/12/2022 22:11, Dale wrote: Wol wrote: On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups.  I did have to change the options a bit.  It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the permissions or something. Are you running the rsync daemon on the NAS? I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Wol wrote: > On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: >> Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups.  I did have to >> change the options a bit.  It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the >> permissions or something. > > Are you running the rsync daemon on the NAS? I'm probably teaching >

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Dale > wrote: > > > root@truenas[~]# iperf -s > > > > Server listening on TCP port 5001 > > TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default) > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 18/12/2022 18:59, Dale wrote: Since this is local, I just use rsync to do my backups.  I did have to change the options a bit.  It seems TrueNAS doesn't like some of the permissions or something. Are you running the rsync daemon on the NAS? I'm probably teaching grandma to suck eggs, but

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Dale wrote: > root@truenas[~]# iperf -s > > Server listening on TCP port 5001 > TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default) > > > > And nothing.

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > > > > I suspect it has something to do with this being a older system.  I > > wouldn't be surprised if the SATA was a older and slower version.  I > > guess I could google it. > > > You

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 09:12:37AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale >> > wrote: >>> My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to >>> manage it.   >>> >>> […] >>> Wipe the machine.

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Am Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:38:45PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > I suspect it has something to do with this being a older system. Very likely. :) > I wouldn't be surprised if the SATA was a older and slower version. I hate to repeat myself, but no. Here are the speeds of SATA: Generation Year

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dale wrote: > > > I suspect it has something to do with this being a older system. I > wouldn't be surprised if the SATA was a older and slower version. I > guess I could google it. > You need to study your specs. Even the first version of SATA, SATA 1, was

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 18 December 2022 15:12:37 GMT Dale wrote: >> Mark Knecht wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale >> > wrote: >>> >>> My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to >>> manage it. >>> >>> >>> Take the

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> I can't figure out why it is so slow tho. The NAS rig is a 4 core CPU and 8GBs of memory. It should have enough horsepower under the hood. Maybe it is something I'm not aware of. It is a older rig so maybe it isn't SATA's fastest version, maybe even the original or something. I can't find

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 18/12/2022 15:12, Dale wrote: I can't figure out why it is so slow tho.  The NAS rig is a 4 core CPU and 8GBs of memory.  It should have enough horsepower under the hood. Maybe it is something I'm not aware of.  It is a older rig so maybe it isn't SATA's fastest version, maybe even the

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:29 AM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:13 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Well, I finally got it so I could do a backup. I didn't need a hammer but the thought crossed my mind. lol Even tho I now have a 1GB network card, it's still really slow. It shows

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:13 AM Dale wrote: > > Well, I finally got it so I could do a backup. I didn't need a hammer but the thought crossed my mind. lol Even tho I now have a 1GB network card, it's still really slow. It shows up as a 1GB connection on both my Gentoo machine and the NAS

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 09:12:37AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale > > wrote: > > > > > > > > My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to > > manage it.   > > > > […] > > Wipe the machine. You'll be happier. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sunday, 18 December 2022 15:12:37 GMT Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale > > wrote: > > > > > > > My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to > > > > manage it. > > > > > > Take the machine, wipe it

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Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to > manage it.   > > > Take the machine, wipe it and build a NAS from scratch with Gentoo. If > all you want is an NFS

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Dale wrote: > > My reasoning is simple, I'm already familiar with LVM and how to manage it. Take the machine, wipe it and build a NAS from scratch with Gentoo. If all you want is an NFS mount that won't be difficult. Add an NFS server, export your mount and

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dave On Sat, Dec 17, 2022, 11:42 AM Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale wrote: > > > > > I > > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that? That would

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 17/12/2022 20:03, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm just asking what's the purpose of doing LVM, or your suggested layering, specifically on a storage pool for a home user like Dale? That's the part I don't understand, especially for a new NAS user like Dale? From my POV, snapshots, in-place

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:10 PM Wol > wrote: > > > Do you want the system layered, with each layer doing one job? Use > > dm-integrity to protect against corruption, raid to join the disks, lvm > > to partition them, and ext to manage

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 09:09:48AM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale wrote: > > > I > > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that? That would be > > > interesting. I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM > > > instead. Interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:10 PM Wol wrote: > Do you want the system layered, with each layer doing one job? Use > dm-integrity to protect against corruption, raid to join the disks, lvm > to partition them, and ext to manage the directories and files. > > I do the latter ... No argument there,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 17/12/2022 16:09, Mark Knecht wrote: Hummm...I don't know Dale, I don't know... ZFS is a file system. LVM is an abstraction on top (or underneath?) of a file system. My understanding of LVM is that it frees you from hard decisions on partition sizes, not that it replaces ZFS or ext3/4/5. Do

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:42 AM Dale wrote: > > > That is true. Thing is, I've learned how to manage LVM even with encrypted data. I've also learned how to expand storage without losing data or getting confused about what I'm doing. To me, using LVM is pretty easy given the notes I have for

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > I > > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that?  That

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:52 AM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale wrote: > > > I > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that? That would be > > interesting. I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM > > instead. Interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale > wrote: > > > I > > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that?  That would be > > interesting.  I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM > > instead.  Interesting thought.  I just may

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On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:50 PM Dale wrote: > > I noticing that now. Once the install is done and you have the IP > address, heck, you don't need a monitor for much of anything it > appears. I even found a console so one can type in things to do. Exactly. My TrueNAS machines haven't had a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 12:49:01AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > While ZFS has the same pooling feature as LVM, meaning you can bunch several > > disks together to create a JBOD, it has one big disadvantage over LVM: you > > can grow a pool, but not shrink it. Actually, while reading up on stuff for >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:50:01PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> My point is: there is no need for a monitor. ;-) >>> >> I noticing that now.  Once the install is done and you have the IP >> address, heck, you don't need a monitor for much of anything it >> appears.  I even

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:50:01PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > My point is: there is no need for a monitor. ;-) > > > > I noticing that now.  Once the install is done and you have the IP > address, heck, you don't need a monitor for much of anything it > appears.  I even found a console so one can

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 04:43:25PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> 4) While I cannot tell you if the card you ordered has a Linux or FreeBSD >>> driver, I can point out that on the left hand side of your TrueNAS  >>> dashboard, accessible in your browser hopefully, there is a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 04:43:25PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > 4) While I cannot tell you if the card you ordered has a Linux or FreeBSD > > driver, I can point out that on the left hand side of your TrueNAS  > > dashboard, accessible in your browser hopefully, there is a pulldown > > called

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:08 PM Dale > wrote: > > > 2:  Hardware change.  The Dell comes with a 100MB network card.  I > > ordered a 1GB card.  I plan to put it in when it gets here.  Will it see > > the new card and work automatically or

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:08:02PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >> I have a couple questions.  I currently have the NAS thingy on a older >> Dell machine.  It has a 4 core CPU and 8GBs of ram so it is acceptable, >> for the time being at least.  Bad thing is, only two drive

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On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:08 PM Dale wrote: > 2: Hardware change. The Dell comes with a 100MB network card. I > ordered a 1GB card. I plan to put it in when it gets here. Will it see > the new card and work automatically or will it take some work to get the > network going? On my Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:08:02PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > I have a couple questions.  I currently have the NAS thingy on a older > Dell machine.  It has a 4 core CPU and 8GBs of ram so it is acceptable, > for the time being at least.  Bad thing is, only two drive bays.  :/  I > have a few

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > <<< SNIP >>> > > Thoughts?  Info to share?  Ideas on a best path forward?  Buy already > built or build? > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > I have a couple questions.  I currently have the NAS thingy on a older Dell machine.  It has a 4 core CPU and 8GBs of ram so it

RE: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

> -Original Message- > From: Peter Humphrey > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2022 3:35 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives > > On Friday, 9 December 2022 10:34:00 GMT I wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:55 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Dale wrote: > > > > > > Interesting info.  Since this is a duplicate copy already, I'm not to > > > worried about RAID stuff.  I'd rather have two separate backups > myself. > > > Store

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:55 PM Dale wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > > > Interesting info. Since this is a duplicate copy already, I'm not to > > worried about RAID stuff. I'd rather have two separate backups myself. > > Store them in different places for even more safety. Still, one of > > these

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dale wrote: > > Interesting info.  Since this is a duplicate copy already, I'm not to > worried about RAID stuff.  I'd rather have two separate backups myself.  > Store them in different places for even more safety.  Still, one of > these days.  ;-)  > > I'm still getting this error.  > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:44:42AM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > >> Also, I think there are ways for you to build complex pools like a RAID0 >> from your 6TB and 8TB drives, and then a RAID1 using the RAID0 and your >> 14TB drive but I've never tried it because mine

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 08:44:42AM -0700 schrieb Mark Knecht: > Also, I think there are ways for you to build complex pools like a RAID0 > from your 6TB and 8TB drives, and then a RAID1 using the RAID0 and your > 14TB drive but I've never tried it because mine don't have enough drive > slots for

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 8:01 AM Dale wrote: > I think I'm going to switch. I need to start over anyway. I set up a user account and a large pool but while I can mount it, I can't put anything in it yet. I get a permission error. I likely missed a step or something. Starting over will help

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 9:35 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I got a old rig I can use.  I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or > > > FreeNAS on a USB stick.  I can't recall which one I put on it tho.  I > > >

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 9:35 PM Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > I got a old rig I can use. I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or > > FreeNAS on a USB stick. I can't recall which one I put on it tho. I > > downloaded all three. lol If you know that one is better than the >

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, 9 December 2022 10:34:00 GMT I wrote: > in the 1970s the national grid was monitored and analysed with a Ferranti > Argus 500 machine with 24KB RAM and a 2MB disk. It was common for > American visitors to believe that was just driving the control engineers' > displays, and where was

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Thanks Dave On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 11:19 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 09:20:17AM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > > > Depending on the PVR make/model I've seen 1080p resolution > recordings with > > > > .m2ts and .ts file extensions, while the codecs inside them are the

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Can I get sum help with privacy an control of my ph. David On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 9:49 PM David Rosenbaum wrote: > Tanks > > Dave > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 9:46 PM David Rosenbaum > wrote: > >> >> >> Dave >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 4:28 PM Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 10,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > I got a old rig I can use.  I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or > FreeNAS on a USB stick.  I can't recall which one I put on it tho.  I > downloaded all three.  lol  If you know that one is better than the > others, feel free to share.  Also, I'd like to keep using

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

> > I got a old rig I can use. I actually burned OpenNAS, TrueNAS or FreeNAS on a USB stick. I can't recall which one I put on it tho. I downloaded all three. lol If you know that one is better than the others, feel free to share. Also, I'd like to keep using LVM if I can. If nothing else,

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Tanks Dave On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 9:46 PM David Rosenbaum wrote: > > > Dave > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 4:28 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale wrote: >> >> > It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be >> > easily built by us nerdy

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dave On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 4:28 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale wrote: > > > It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be > > easily built by us nerdy types and not be huge. Things are a bit > > interesting right now for hardware and

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale > wrote: > > > It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be > > easily built by us nerdy types and not be huge.  Things are a bit > > interesting right now for hardware and such. 

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 1:42 PM Dale wrote: > It does appear that several people are making it so NAS boxes can be > easily built by us nerdy types and not be huge. Things are a bit > interesting right now for hardware and such. Some parts are expensive, > hard to find or just plain

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Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups.  I'm up to a 16TB hard > drive for one and even that won't last long.  Larger drives are much > more costly.  A must have NAS is quickly approaching.  I've been > searching around and find some things confusing.  I'm hoping

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Someone has hacked my ph.im 44 years old an pay for every thing.house car an wifi Dave On Sat, Dec 10, 2022, 12:28 PM Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 10 December 2022 16:30:03 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > > On 10/12/2022 16:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > Where do we confuse those two? We

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Saturday, 10 December 2022 16:30:03 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 10/12/2022 16:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Where do we confuse those two? We specifically talked of codecs and > > “contain”. > > "I didn't know .ts could contain h264". > > If .ts is the container, then surely the assumption

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 10/12/2022 16:19, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Where do we confuse those two? We specifically talked of codecs and “contain”. "I didn't know .ts could contain h264". If .ts is the container, then surely the assumption is it can contain any codec? If not, why not? (Yes I do get the

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Am Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 09:20:17AM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > Depending on the PVR make/model I've seen 1080p resolution recordings with > > > .m2ts and .ts file extensions, while the codecs inside them are the same. -^^^ > > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 09/12/2022 13:38, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Depending on the PVR make/model I've seen 1080p resolution recordings with .m2ts and .ts file extensions, while the codecs inside them are the same. I wasn’t aware that ts could contain h264. But then again—I never really bothered with live TV

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, 9 December 2022 14:38:14 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 02:27:07PM + schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > 1. Mind you, UK TV adverts are nowhere near as gross as the screeching > > horrors I was subjected to in Minneapolis 30 years ago. > > I can only imagine.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, December 9, 2022 12:58:38 A.M. AEDT Dale wrote: > I was thinking DAS was not a good option. It seems like a feature > removed and cheaper version of NAS. Maybe get the DAS, then connect it to the Rasberry Pi 4, to make a DIY NAS. That way you get a propper encolsure for your

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 01:13:50PM + schrieb Michael: > > > Good points. I am a big fan of having stuff locally as well, because I don’t > want to be dependent on a company’s servers and a working Internet connection. > But this mostly applies to my mobile device,

Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 02:27:07PM + schrieb Peter Humphrey: > On Friday, 9 December 2022 13:38:32 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > ...I never really bothered with live TV recordings in recent years. These > > days, if I find something interesting, I download the show form the TV > >

[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, 9 December 2022 13:38:32 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > ...I never really bothered with live TV recordings in recent years. These > days, if I find something interesting, I download the show form the TV > channel’s website (called Mediathek in Germany, a word play on Bibliothek, >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 8:13 AM Michael wrote: > > Actually this had me thinking what is the need to back up the ... Internet? I'm sure the NSA knows the answer to this. Based on discussions I've had with people who are into such things they basically have their own Wayback machine, except it

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > <<>> > > Path two, I've researched building a NAS using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB as > another option.  They come as parts, cases too, but the newer and faster > models of Raspberry Pi 4 with more ram seem to work pretty well.  The > old slower models with small amounts of ram

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 01:13:50PM + schrieb Michael: > > > I get the impression Dale isn't actually PLANNING his disk storage. It's > > > just a case of "help I'm downloading all this stuff where do I put it!!!" > > > > Haha, thanks for the laugh. > > Actually this had me thinking what is

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Thursday, 8 December 2022 20:44:56 GMT Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 06:36:14PM + schrieb Wols Lists: > > > > I've pretty much reached a limit on my backups. I'm up to a 16TB > > > > hard > > > > drive for one and even that won't last long. Larger drives are much

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, 9 December 2022 08:27:18 GMT Wol wrote: > On 09/12/2022 00:45, Dale wrote: > > I even remember when 512KBs of ram was a big deal. I also remember > > having expansion cards that would add a few MBs of ram. Jeez I'm > > getting old. o_O We talk about TBs like they are nothing. My

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Wol wrote: > On 09/12/2022 01:15, Dale wrote: >> Given the size of one of the directories I have, it takes two drives, or >> soon will, and the use of LVM or something similar.  I can't do that as >> it is now.  I've even wondered if I hooked two eSATA drives up and gave >> both plenty of time to

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 09/12/2022 00:45, Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back in 2003. I thought I had problems then. Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 09/12/2022 00:03, Dale wrote: I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back in 2003.  I thought I had problems then.  O_O The first drive I bought was - iirc - a 2GB 5.1/4" Bigfoot. For a Pentium system where the mobo took chips with a max capacity of 32MB. That

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 09/12/2022 01:15, Dale wrote: Given the size of one of the directories I have, it takes two drives, or soon will, and the use of LVM or something similar.  I can't do that as it is now.  I've even wondered if I hooked two eSATA drives up and gave both plenty of time to spin up if LVM would

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

* didn't send to the list the first time :( On 9/12/22 07:30, Dale wrote: I just wonder, could I use that board and just hook it to my USB port and a external power supply and skip the Raspberry Pi part?  I'd bet not tho.  ;-) Dale :-)  :-) Check this one:

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about >>> capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem >>> the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > >> I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back >> in 2003. I thought I had problems then. > Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my > first PC. No, not

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature >> removed and cheaper version of NAS. >> >> I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used >> they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Friday, 9 December 2022 00:03:29 GMT Dale wrote: > I think back sometimes, I started out with a 30GB hard drive wy back > in 2003. I thought I had problems then. Then you won't want to know that I paid extra in 1990 for an 85MB drive in my first PC. No, not GB: MB. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Am Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 05:30:18PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > I use USB3 hard drives on Pis for my bulk storage because I care about > > capacity far more than performance, and with a distributed filesystem > > the performance is still good enough for what I'm doing. If I needed > > block storage

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: >> One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I >> can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a >> prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a >> option.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 6:30 PM Dale wrote: > > One thing I like about the Raspberry option, I can upgrade it later. I > can simply take out the old, put in new, upgrade done. If I buy a > prebuilt NAS, they pretty much are what they are if upgrading isn't a > option. Some of the more expensive

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives

On 12/8/22 05:58, Dale wrote: I was thinking DAS was not a good option.  It seems like a feature removed and cheaper version of NAS. I think I've seen a couple Synology NAS boxes but I think even used they were a bit pricey.  Still, used could make that a option. Maybe.  It could fall

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