I don't have time to catch up on the whole thread yet, but
https://neo900.org/ should be interesting. The older n900 phone is
quite open as well. Both [will] run an operating system called Maemo.
The neo900 solves some of the issues in current phones like the modem
sharing memory space with the
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:28:18PM -0500, Dale wrote
What version of Firefox are you using? I've seen some changes made
to Firefox but nothing that drastic. I'm just curious if maybe I'm
still running a older not affected version.
My reason for asking. I'm volunteer on staff at a social
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
Linux is a desktop OS. I hope it remains that way.
Uh, Linux is a kernel, and even GNU is really a collection of
shell-oriented tools, which can be run from Android just fine.
So Android IS Linux, at least as much as
2015-06-29 14:14 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com:
I know what you mean. This is all more or less true, but what can we do in
this situation?
I will try to move toward whatever promotes openness, and please do not tell
me that ubuntu
is not more open that android. In android
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 07:46:59PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Jolla do a phone which is Linux based. No idea if this would suit your
needs but may be worth a look. It's GUI is good and it uses Wayland.
Not sure how open it is!
I second Jolla.
FWIW, I consider buying one myself if
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 09:42:58PM +0100, john wrote:
behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what
you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let
somebody else build/install android on a device and
On 30 June 2015 1:44:24 AM AEST, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS
-
or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the
bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary).
No, actually my problem
On 29/06/15 21:03, behrouz khosravi wrote:
I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix running on Android
as part of GSoC. I've yet to try it myself but you might find that
useful. I doubt it runs x11, but your typical x11 application isn't
really going to work well on
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:03 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
I love to get ride of android altogether!
I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my
bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory.
This is what I consider as
I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix running on Android
as part of GSoC. I've yet to try it myself but you might find that
useful. I doubt it runs x11, but your typical x11 application isn't
really going to work well on a smartphone anyway unless you get a
bluetooth
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:54 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
I am eagerly waiting for seeing the traditional linux ecosystem on phones
and tablet.
I hate Android and I think it is not what we deserve to have on our
hardware.
I believe there was an effort to get Gentoo Prefix
It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS -
or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the
bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary).
No, actually my problem is that why an operating system
can have decision on what types of apps can I have
* behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com [150629 11:45]:
It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS -
or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the
bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary).
No, actually my problem is that why an
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:44 AM, behrouz khosravi
bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS -
or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the
bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary).
No, actually my problem is
If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what
you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let
somebody else build/install android on a device and not give you root
access, then it is painful.
If you build/install Gentoo on a device, then it only
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 00:44:23 +0430
behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote:
If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what
you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let
somebody else build/install android on a device and not give you
root
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:33:08PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote
I love to get ride of android altogether!
I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my
bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory.
This is what I consider as the linux or
Walter Dnes wrote:
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:33:08PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote
I love to get ride of android altogether!
I would love to see a platform open enough that I am able to install my
bootloader on it easily and boot what I prefer using a usb flash memory.
This is what I
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