Re: [gentoo-user] WHAT IS Gentoo architecture for Pentium4 Prescott-2M

2006-12-18 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Statux, Thanks! === On Monday 18 December 2006 02:44, Statux wrote: === ... If you want to use EM64T, it's amd64 and -march=nocona in the CFLAGS. But If I don't want to use EMT64 but have CPU with EM64T (say, it is Pentium D) - am I forced to use 'amd64' artch? Or - can I use 'x86' with

Re: [gentoo-user] WHAT IS Gentoo architecture for Pentium4 Prescott-2M

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 09:58, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Statux, Thanks! === On Monday 18 December 2006 02:44, Statux wrote: === ... If you want to use EM64T, it's amd64 and -march=nocona in the CFLAGS. But If I don't want to use EMT64 but have CPU with EM64T (say, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server problem

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:48:37 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: Since .config contains # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set I do believe I know the cause of _this_ problem. Just to be sure, my next (newbie) question is Is bridged networking the the right option to choose? I'm not sure...I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, flash player, and youTube

2006-12-18 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:57:05 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I'm up-to-date on stable ebuilds. I've tried to view a cute youTube Code Monkey video, but get the complaint my flash Player plugin is obsolete (or I'm blocking Javascript, which is false). It's at

Re: [gentoo-user] ATI 1900 ati drivers

2006-12-18 Thread Roman Zilka
Hi, for starters: what do your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like? What version of ati-drivers do you use? Have you tried another version? -Roman Hello, I first set the card up using the radeon open source drivers. The sceen clarity was not very good. The AMD64 system

Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server problem

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 06:34, David Relson wrote: Running insmod for vmmon and vmnet gets them installed and output from /etc/init.d/vmware start indicated success.  However running .../vmware status immediately afterwards says vmware has stopped.  Looking at dmesg I suspect the following

[gentoo-user] Re: CUPS finds printer disconnected.

2006-12-18 Thread Carl Adams
Neil Bothwick wrote What does ls -l /dev/usb/lp0 show? Answer: ls: /dev/usb/lp0: No such file or directory Hmm! Well done, Neil. Checked in the /dev/ directory and sure enough, there is no /dev/usb but there is /dev/bus/usb/ Tried ls /dev/bus/usb/lp0 and /dev/bus/usb/004/lp0 all with the

[gentoo-user] using stage4 conveniently

2006-12-18 Thread Ralf Stephan
Hello, I'm using Reto Glauser's mkstage4 script for backup. Reading in the 'Small Footprint Gentoo USB HOWTO' about a stage4 made me ask myself: Is it possible to quickly/comfortably put the backup stage4 on a USB Stick, such that it behaves just like the same system just backed up while the

[gentoo-user] Squirrelmail in a new slot?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I have squirrelmail-1.4.8 installed and working on my server, and portage wants to install 1.4.9a in a new slot. How will the slots work in this context? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Squirrelmail in a new slot?

2006-12-18 Thread Rumen Yotov
Grant wrote: I have squirrelmail-1.4.8 installed and working on my server, and portage wants to install 1.4.9a in a new slot. How will the slots work in this context? - Grant Hi, Just checked and don't see any SLOTS in squirrelmail, even a SLOT var. HTH.Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [gentoo-user] Squirrelmail in a new slot?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:44:45 -0800, Grant wrote: I have squirrelmail-1.4.8 installed and working on my server, and portage wants to install 1.4.9a in a new slot. How will the slots work in this context? Do you have the vhosts USE flag set? If so, after emerging the new version you'll have to

[gentoo-user] Re: ATI 1900 ati drivers

2006-12-18 Thread James
Roman Zilka rzilka at gvid.cz writes: for starters: what do your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like? What version of ati-drivers do you use? Have you tried another version? Hello Roman, The last few lines of the log file: (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) fglrx(0): ===

Re: [gentoo-user] Squirrelmail in a new slot?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
On 12/18/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:44:45 -0800, Grant wrote: I have squirrelmail-1.4.8 installed and working on my server, and portage wants to install 1.4.9a in a new slot. How will the slots work in this context? Do you have the vhosts USE flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Monday 18 December 2006 20:17, Grant wrote: I personally still love Gentoo. What's the problem then? :) -- Mrugesh Karnik GPG Key 0xBA6F1DA8 Public key on http://wwwkeys.pgp.net pgpmSykqzP83h.pgp

[gentoo-user] Working: Re: ATI 1900 ati drivers

2006-12-18 Thread james
Roman Zilka rzilka at gvid.cz writes: Hello Roman, I changed the default color depth from 16 to 24; xorg now works. Bzflag will not run, but, with all of the changes, I'm just going to recompile bzflag and see what that does. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I personally still love Gentoo. What's the problem then? :) bugs.gentoo.org :) Do you think Gentoo is waning? Is Debian the only similar distro out there? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
On Monday 18 December 2006 20:17, Grant wrote: I personally still love Gentoo. What's the problem then? :) Another question would be, how many of us have made healthy progress in our general knowledge of Linux all thanks to the gentoo user guides/howto(s) and the time spent installing

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? - possibly OT, but not really

2006-12-18 Thread McCaffrey, Ennis
I was wondering about that, how would you volunteer to assist with porting new software to the portage tree? I see that some software packages I would like to install (RT, dotProject) are masked. So I was wondering if anybody needed some assistance maintaining the ports, or if

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 18 December 2006 15:47, Grant wrote: I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when it becomes

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy? - possibly OT, but not really

2006-12-18 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
I was wondering about that, how would you volunteer to assist with porting new software to the portage tree? I see that some software packages I would like to install (RT, dotProject) are masked. So I was wondering if anybody needed some assistance maintaining the ports, or if

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 19:17, Danyelle Gragsone wrote: I just stepped back into gentoo after a long too long jump to ubuntu. I had no time to do all the tinkering of things that is required in gentoo sometimes.  My ability to do things deminished greatly!.  I am back in the gentoo seat to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 18 December 2006 15:47, Grant wrote: I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. Once again I'll refer to the blog [1] of kloeri, Lead of the Gentoo Developer Relations

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. Once again I'll refer to the blog [1] of kloeri, Lead of the Gentoo Developer Relations project (devrel) and a member of the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I just stepped back into gentoo after a long too long jump to ubuntu. I had no time to do all the tinkering of things that is required in gentoo sometimes. My ability to do things deminished greatly!. I am back in the gentoo seat to remember long lost skills. I totally did not like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when it becomes 'cool' and a sudden surge in users, some time of

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 00:24, Grant wrote: I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean more active developers, and more active developers must mean an increased rate of growth for the software. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 12/18/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when it becomes

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
+1 You have stealed my thoughts! All I can add, I'd want to Gentoo aim be a better Gentoo :-) === On Monday 18 December 2006 22:12, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: === ... I don't think the goal of Gentoo was to become a Desktop Distro for the people migrating from M$ land. I don't care about

[gentoo-user] OT - Need driver for...

2006-12-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
I had a new piece of hardware installed this morning, and I need to know what I need to modprobe/alter kernel config for to use the new hardware: 05:01.0 Communication controller: Motorola Wildcard X100P Subsystem: Motorola Unknown device Flags: bus master, medium devsel,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Grant
I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when it becomes 'cool' and a sudden surge in users,

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA problems after UDEV-103 upgrade [SOLVED]

2006-12-18 Thread Arend von der Lieth
Hi Mark, Mark Knecht wrote: That appears to be a testing version of udev. Do you always run testing? As for the mixer message please try removing /etc/asound.state and then restarting Alsa. You will probably need to set mixer levels using alsamixer or whatever mixer is appropriate for this

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Brandon Edens
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:58:26AM -0800, Grant wrote: Every user does add to the distro because they make it more popular, and, generally, a more popular distro will have more active developers than an unpopular distro. Active developers make the distro. For example, I submitted this bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Philip Webb
061219 Mrugesh Karnik wrote: On Tuesday 19 December 2006 00:24, Grant wrote: It seems like the best thing for Gentoo is a lot of users. More users must mean more active developers and an increased rate of growth for the software. Methinks, Gentoo should stay focused. I don't think the goal

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Roman Naumann
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 00:24, Grant wrote: It seems like the best thing for Gentoo is a lot of users. More users must mean more active developers and an increased rate of growth for the software. Methinks, Gentoo should stay focused. I don't think the goal of Gentoo was to

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA problems after UDEV-103 upgrade [SOLVED]

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On 12/18/06, Arend von der Lieth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Mark Knecht wrote: That appears to be a testing version of udev. Do you always run testing? As for the mixer message please try removing /etc/asound.state and then restarting Alsa. You will probably need to set mixer levels

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Monday 18 December 2006 19:54, Grant wrote: I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when it

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Walker
Roman Naumann wrote: I find Sabayon linux very useful, it offers a complete pre-installation, you can modify it afterwards. The perfect os with a rapid beginning. :-) Sabayon creates such a horribly broken system it takes hours for an experienced Gentoo user to sort out a simple emerge -uavD

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Layer burn program

2006-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 17 December 2006 14:28, Luigi Pinna wrote: gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 6: Couldn't resolve host 'subkeys.pgp.net' Hi! How can I burn a 8.5 GByte iso? I tried with k3b and I receive an error and growisofs failed at 99.9% with input/output error. I searched in portage but I didn't find

[gentoo-user] Hotel WiFi does not like my Gentoo

2006-12-18 Thread Mick
This is what I am getting: = # iwconfig eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. dummy0no wireless extensions. wmaster0 IEEE 802.11g Frequency:2.437 GHz RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CUPS finds printer disconnected.

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:49:56 +1000, Carl Adams wrote: What does ls -l /dev/usb/lp0 show? ls: /dev/usb/lp0: No such file or directory Run tail -f /var/log/messages and connect the printer. the output should tell you where the printer appears, then you can change the CUPS config

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:26:07 -0500, Brandon Edens wrote: As for your bug, I guess I would have liked to have typed, $ equery comments mod_perl and seen information about that bug you posted. emerge gentoo-bugger bugger --keyword mod_perl bugger --show 157239 -- Neil Bothwick With 5

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:54:06AM -0800, Grant wrote: I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I personally still love Gentoo. there are always several phases in the life of a distri. Beginning, when

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:07:54 +0100, Roman Naumann wrote: People who're new to Linux, especially naturally unexperienced teens will have a rough time if they try gentoo linux. Even if they learn fast.. especially the fact that you need a whole day to have a running installation kills

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:54:06 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean more active developers, and more active developers must mean an increased rate of growth for the software.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:58:26 -0800, Grant wrote: Every user does add to the distro because they make it more popular, and, generally, a more popular distro will have more active developers than an unpopular distro. It may, but you are confusing cause and effect. A distro with more developers

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, flash player, and youTube

2006-12-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 10:51 +0100, Arnau Bria wrote: On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:57:05 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I'm up-to-date on stable ebuilds. I've tried to view a cute youTube Code Monkey video, but get the complaint my flash Player plugin is obsolete (or I'm blocking Javascript,

[gentoo-user] Nvidia + glxgears slower than before

2006-12-18 Thread Jakob
Hi all, I have a strage problem, some month ago I bougth a new laptop (Core2duo 1,83 Ghz + Geforce 7600). The first thing I did was installing gentoo, and after X was finished I installed the nvidia-driver an run glxgears to see the difference between my old desktop and my new laptop. I got

Re: [gentoo-user] Hotel WiFi does not like my Gentoo

2006-12-18 Thread Norberto Bensa
Mick wrote: # iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:0C:20:03:3B:C5 ESSID:The Cairngorm Hotel Mode:Master Frequency:2.437 GHz Encryption key:off

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia + glxgears slower than before

2006-12-18 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Tuesday, 19 December 2006 9:42, Jakob wrote: Hi all, I have a strage problem, some month ago I bougth a new laptop (Core2duo 1,83 Ghz + Geforce 7600). The first thing I did was installing gentoo, and after X was finished I installed the nvidia-driver an run glxgears to see the difference

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:27 +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:54, Grant wrote: I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users. More users must mean more active developers, and more active

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/12/06, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:37:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:58:26 -0800, Grant wrote: It may, but you are confusing cause and effect. A distro with more developers should be a better distro, and should have more

[gentoo-user] OT - Need more asterisk help

2006-12-18 Thread Michael Sullivan
I think I have asterisk set up correctly, but it won't answer the phone. I have a Motorolola X100P card. ztcfg outputs the correct stuff: camille asterisk # ztcfg -vv Zaptel Configuration == Channel map: Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01) 1 channels

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Philip Webb
061218 Neil Bothwick wrote: Do we really need yet another easy to use distro? Gentoo is for those who want maximum control over their systems and are prepared to make the effort to achieve this. Ubuntu ilk are supermarkets, where crowds shop for branded groceries. Gentoo is a garden, where

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox, flash player, and youTube

2006-12-18 Thread Korthrun
On 12/18/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 10:51 +0100, Arnau Bria wrote: On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:57:05 -0800 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I'm up-to-date on stable ebuilds. I've tried to view a cute youTube Code Monkey video, but get the complaint my flash Player

Re: [gentoo-user] [O.T] photomosaic

2006-12-18 Thread Francisco Ares
A friend of mine built this Python script, I'm sure he doesn't mind ;) #!/usr/bin/env python # by Andre Bocchini import sys import os import string import getopt import Image import ImageFilter import ImageStat def usage(): Displays information on how to use the program. print

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Daryl Mathison
All, This thread caused me to go back to the website and reread the social contract that Gentoo has posted. The contract lists a core set of values that the distribution keeps as a whole. I feel that Gentoo is healthy based on this regard. Of course, there are other things to factor

[gentoo-user] bzflag

2006-12-18 Thread James
Hello, I have bzflag working on several systems(yea, it's the new rage around the office and with the kids in the hood). But, for some reason it just dies on a amd64 with an ATI-1900 XT card. I just got the ati-drivers happy on this system. When I fire up bzflag, it takes control of the screen

[gentoo-user] nvidia-legacy-drivers problems/questions

2006-12-18 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'm doing updates to my dad's Gentoo machine 350 miles away. It pretty much hasn't been touched in about a year as per his request. However we agreed it was time to move forward so I've done the gcc-4.1.1 upgrade and rebuilt the machine completely. At the command line from here things look

Re: [gentoo-user] bzflag

2006-12-18 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 19 Tuesday 01:37:50 AM + +, James wrote: I have bzflag working on several systems(yea, it's the new rage around the office and with the kids in the hood). But, for some reason it just dies on a amd64 with an ATI-1900 XT card. I just got the ati-drivers happy on

[gentoo-user] Re: bzflag

2006-12-18 Thread James
Justin Findlay justin at jfindlay.us writes: But, for some reason it just dies on a amd64 with an ATI-1900 XT card. I just got the ati-drivers happy on this system. When I fire up bzflag, it takes control of the screen for a fraction of a second. Have you made sure you enabled/disabled

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-legacy-drivers problems/questions

2006-12-18 Thread Randy Barlow
On Monday 18 December 2006 21:52, Mark Knecht wrote: The commands are unclear to me in the sense that I may need to rebuild the kernel, or not, after running them. I cannot tell. Any idea? Well, before running make oldconfig, you should copy the .config file from the kernel you used just

Re: [gentoo-user] WHAT IS Gentoo architecture for Pentium4 Prescott-2M

2006-12-18 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 18 December 2006 21:44, Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] WHAT IS Gentoo architecture forPentium4 Prescott-2M': However, I had always been told to not use x86_64 (CHOST) unless it was an Itanium. (Can anyone else add to this?). You're just plain

Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS finds printer disconnected.

2006-12-18 Thread Dale
Arend von der Lieth wrote: Hi Carl, I do not know if that helps, but I had a similar problem with my parallel printer recently (after upgrading to udev-103). I could solve the problem by directly integrating the (important) corresponding parts of the kernel (according to:

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need driver for...

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 21:47, Michael Sullivan wrote: I had a new piece of hardware installed this morning, and I need to know what I need to modprobe/alter kernel config for to use the new hardware: 05:01.0 Communication controller: Motorola Wildcard X100P Subsystem: Motorola

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 20:35, Grant wrote: Thanks for everyone's input thus far.  I've been meaning to build and maintain an ebuild for interchange (icdevgroup.org) for a while now. I've never built an ebuild before, my programming skills are limited, and at least two other developers have

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 December 2006 00:23, Bryan Østergaard wrote: Gentoo started with the stated goal of providing a metadistribution. This basically means providing the best possible foundation for others to tinker with any way they like. Be it building embedded applications, making the next 'Ubuntu' or

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?

2006-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 18 December 2006 20:54, Grant wrote: I believe the great benefit of Gentoo is its flexibility, and flexibility is like a meta-benefit because it makes possible any other benefit.  What do you think makes Ubuntu the distro of the moment?  Is it ease-of-use?  If Gentoo focused more on