Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Evgeny Bushkov
On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.

 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
 worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
 parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
 code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp

Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
array. For example:

mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
  20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
 
md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
  20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] [UU_]
  []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608)
finish=1.4min speed=69615K/sec

That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

Best regards,
Bushkov E.





Re: [gentoo-user] Apache is running but its log is not

2011-05-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:48:48 Adam Carter wrote:
  Well, 2.2.17 is indeed my server, but I decided to stop it and start it
  again.  Current log files showed up.
  Problem solved, by brute force again, and without any epiphanies of
  understanding.
 
 Last guess - logrotate is managing the log files but not reloading apache
 afterwards. Check that the entries in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 have a line
 in there that runs /etc/init.d/apache2 reload.

Adam,

I think you got a really good guess. :)
Especially as the log-files listed by lsof have status deleted:
**
apache25288   root9w  REG   8,44  57327591 204998
/var/log/apache2/access_log-20110204 (deleted)
**

Interesting things happen when a file is deleted while a process still has 
access.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] No system list

2011-05-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 04 May 2011 08:43:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:

 I have a few older systems (~6-10 years in use) that have no system
 list.  Over the years there have been various disasters and methods of
 managing the software with the result that I have had to run regenworld
 amongst other things.

@system is defined in the profile. Have you updated the profile on these
machines? If not, it is possible that the profile they are set to useno
longer exists. What does eselect profile list show?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

It's no use crying over spilt milk -- it only makes it salty for the cat.


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature


Re: [gentoo-user] No system list

2011-05-04 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 08:33 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 04 May 2011 08:43:17 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
 
  I have a few older systems (~6-10 years in use) that have no system
  list.  Over the years there have been various disasters and methods of
  managing the software with the result that I have had to run regenworld
  amongst other things.
 
 @system is defined in the profile. Have you updated the profile on these
 machines? If not, it is possible that the profile they are set to useno
 longer exists. What does eselect profile list show?
 
 

No, they are really blank.  I tried changing it to gnome instead of just
the 10.0 profile as well.

myth1 ~ # eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/x86/10.0 *
  [2]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop
  [3]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [4]   default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde
  [5]   default/linux/x86/10.0/developer
  [6]   default/linux/x86/10.0/server
  [7]   hardened/linux/x86
  [8]   selinux/2007.0/x86
  [9]   selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened
  [10]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86
  [11]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop
  [12]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer
  [13]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened
  [14]  selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server
myth1 ~ # eselect profile set 3
myth1 ~ # emerge system -ep
emerge: 'system' is an empty set
emerge: no targets left after set expansion
myth1 ~ # eselect profile set 1
myth1 ~ # emerge system -ep
emerge: 'system' is an empty set
emerge: no targets left after set expansion
myth1 ~ #




Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
  Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
  Hi.
  How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
  couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
  dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
  that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
  slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.
  
  Best regards,
  Bushkov E.
  
  You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
  it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
  for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
  worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.
  
  From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
  parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
  code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.
  
  Regards,
  Florian Philipp
 
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:
 
 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2
 
 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
 
 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] [UU_]
 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608) finish=1.4min
 speed=69615K/sec
 
 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.
 
 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.

I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the data), 
RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I would like to 
keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

What do you see in the dmesg after the mdadm commands?
It might actually mention which is the parity disk in there.

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Evgeny Bushkov
On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
 worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
 parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
 code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:

 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks

 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] [UU_]
 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608) finish=1.4min
 speed=69615K/sec

 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the data), 
 RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I would like to 
 keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

 What do you see in the dmesg after the mdadm commands?
 It might actually mention which is the parity disk in there.

 --
 Joost

There's nothing special in dmesg:

md: bindmd2
RAID conf printout:
 --- level:4 rd:3 wd:2
 disk 0, o:1, dev:sdb1
 disk 1, o:1, dev:sdc1
 disk 2, o:1, dev:md2
md: recovery of RAID array md1

I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.

Best regards,
Bushkov E.





Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:08:34 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
  On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
  On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
  Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
  Hi.
  How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft
  array? I
  couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4
  features a
  dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array,
  so
  that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a
  few
  slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.
  
  Best regards,
  Bushkov E.
  
  You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason
  why
  it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first
  guess
  for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with
  the worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.
  
  From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified
  disk is parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only
  inspected the code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.
  
  Regards,
  Florian Philipp
  
  Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
  sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
  the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
  drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't
  bother
  me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
  array. For example:
  
  mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
  missing mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1
  /dev/sdd1 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2
  
  livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
  Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
  md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
  
20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks
  
  md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
  
20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0
[3/2] [UU_]
  
  []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608)
  finish=1.4min speed=69615K/sec
  
  That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
  disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
  worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.
  
  Best regards,
  Bushkov E.
  
  I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the
  data), RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I
  would like to keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.
  
  What do you see in the dmesg after the mdadm commands?
  It might actually mention which is the parity disk in there.
  
  --
  Joost
 
 There's nothing special in dmesg:
 
 md: bindmd2
 RAID conf printout:
  --- level:4 rd:3 wd:2
  disk 0, o:1, dev:sdb1
  disk 1, o:1, dev:sdc1
  disk 2, o:1, dev:md2
 md: recovery of RAID array md1
 
 I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
 raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
 almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.
 
 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.

What's the result of:
mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md1
?

Not sure what info this command will provide with a RAID-4...

--
Joost



Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Evgeny Bushkov
On 04.05.2011 13:38, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:08:34 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft
 array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4
 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array,
 so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a
 few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason
 why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first
 guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with
 the worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified
 disk is parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only
 inspected the code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't
 bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:

 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
 missing mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1
 /dev/sdd1 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]

   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks

 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]

   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0
   [3/2] [UU_]

 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608)
 finish=1.4min speed=69615K/sec

 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the
 data), RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I
 would like to keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

 What do you see in the dmesg after the mdadm commands?
 It might actually mention which is the parity disk in there.

 --
 Joost
 There's nothing special in dmesg:

 md: bindmd2
 RAID conf printout:
  --- level:4 rd:3 wd:2
  disk 0, o:1, dev:sdb1
  disk 1, o:1, dev:sdc1
  disk 2, o:1, dev:md2
 md: recovery of RAID array md1

 I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
 raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
 almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 What's the result of:
 mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md1
 ?

 Not sure what info this command will provide with a RAID-4...

 --
 Joostlivecd ~ # mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md1
livecd ~ # mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md1
/dev/md1:
Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Wed May  4 13:54:33 2011
 Raid Level : raid4
 Array Size : 122624 (119.77 MiB 125.57 MB)
  Used Dev Size : 61312 (59.89 MiB 62.78 MB)
   Raid Devices : 3
  Total Devices : 3
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Wed May  4 13:55:14 2011
  State : clean
 Active Devices : 3
Working Devices : 3
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 0

 Chunk Size : 128K

   Name : livecd:1  (local to host livecd)
   UUID : 654218f0:9f0b88d5:d82f39bc:ae08aa1e
 Events : 19

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   170  active sync   /dev/sdb1
   1   8   331  active sync   /dev/sdc1
   3   922  active sync   /dev/md2

Best regards,
Bushkov E.





Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Tether a Google Nexus One?

2011-05-04 Thread Indi
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:00:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 23:19 on Tuesday 03 May 2011, Neil Bothwick 
 did opine thusly:
 
  On Tue, 3 May 2011 13:21:06 -0700, Grant wrote:
   There is a tethering option in the Nexus One settings but I can't
   figure out how to get my Gentoo laptop to use the tethered cell
   phone's internet connection.
  
  I never tried tethering mine over USB, because the WiFi tethering is so
  simple to use. You just turn it on and the phone appears as an
  access point in Wicd (or any inferior network manager you may
  masochistically prefer).
 
 Hello Neil,
 
 Had some bad experiences with NetworkManager then?
 

The CLI and wpa_supplicant have yet to let me down.
Network manager and wicd were both incredibly frustrating 
and buggy, last I tried them (~ a year ago).

-- 
caveat utilitor




Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 04.05.2011 11:08, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
 worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
 parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
 code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:

 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks

 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] [UU_]
 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608) finish=1.4min
 speed=69615K/sec

 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the data), 
 RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I would like to 
 keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

[...]
 
 I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
 raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
 almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.
 
 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 
 
 

When you have an array with uneven disk speeds, you might consider using
the --write-mostly option of mdadm:
-W, --write-mostly
subsequent devices lists in a --build, --create, or --add command
will be flagged as 'write-mostly'. This is valid for RAID1 only and
means that the 'md' driver will avoid reading from these devices if at
all possible. This can be useful if mirroring over a slow link.

This should help in concurrent read and write operations because the
kernel will not dispatch read requests to a disk that is already having
trouble managing the write operations.

On another point: Are you sure your disks have different speeds? SATA150
and 300 are no reliable indicator because most HDDs cannot saturate the
SATA port anyway. dd is still the most reliable way to measure
sequential throughput.

Regards,
Florian Philipp



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 04.05.2011 14:39, schrieb Florian Philipp:
 Am 04.05.2011 11:08, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
 worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
 parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
 code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:

 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks

 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] 
 [UU_]
 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608) finish=1.4min
 speed=69615K/sec

 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the data), 
 RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I would like to 
 keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

 [...]

 I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
 raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
 almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.



 
 When you have an array with uneven disk speeds, you might consider using
 the --write-mostly option of mdadm:
 -W, --write-mostly
 subsequent devices lists in a --build, --create, or --add command
 will be flagged as 'write-mostly'. This is valid for RAID1 only and
 means that the 'md' driver will avoid reading from these devices if at
 all possible. This can be useful if mirroring over a slow link.
 
 This should help in concurrent read and write operations because the
 kernel will not dispatch read requests to a disk that is already having
 trouble managing the write operations.
 
 On another point: Are you sure your disks have different speeds? SATA150
 and 300 are no reliable indicator because most HDDs cannot saturate the
 SATA port anyway. dd is still the most reliable way to measure
 sequential throughput.
 
 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 

`man 4 md` also states that the the last of the active devices in the
array is the parity disk in a RAID4.

Regards,
Florian Philipp



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: [gentoo-user] mdadm and raid4

2011-05-04 Thread Evgeny Bushkov
On 04.05.2011 16:45, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 04.05.2011 14:39, schrieb Florian Philipp:
 Am 04.05.2011 11:08, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 On 04.05.2011 11:54, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 10:07:58 Evgeny Bushkov wrote:
 On 04.05.2011 01:49, Florian Philipp wrote:
 Am 03.05.2011 19:54, schrieb Evgeny Bushkov:
 Hi.
 How can I find out which is the parity disk in a RAID-4 soft array? I
 couldn't find that in the mdadm manual.  I know that RAID-4 features a
 dedicated parity disk that is usually the bottleneck of the array, so
 that disk must be as fast as possible. It seems useful to employ a few
 slow disks with a relatively fast disk in such a RAID-4 array.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 You are seriously considering a RAID4? You know, there is a reason why
 it was superseded by RAID5. Given the way RAID4 operates, a first guess
 for finding the parity disk in a running array would be the one with the
 worst SMART data. It is the parity disk that dies the soonest.

 From looking at the source code it seems like the last specified disk is
 parity. Disclaimer: I'm no kernel hacker and I have only inspected the
 code, not tried to understand the whole MD subsystem.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp
 Thank you for answering... The reason I consider RAID-4 is a few
 sata/150 drives  and a pair of sata II drives I've got. Let's look at
 the problem from the other side: I can create RAID-0(from sata II
 drives) and then add it to RAID-4 as the parity disk. It doesn't bother
 me if any disk from the RAID-0 fails, that wouldn't disrupt my RAID-4
 array. For example:

 mdadm --create /dev/md1 --level=4 -n 3 -c 128 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 missing
 mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=0 -n 2 -c 128 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdd1
 mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/md2

 livecd ~ # cat /proc/mdstat
 Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
 md2 : active raid0 sdd1[1] sda1[0]
   20969472 blocks super 1.2 128k chunks

 md1 : active raid4 md2[3] sdc1[1] sdb1[0]
   20969216 blocks super 1.2 level 4, 128k chunk, algorithm 0 [3/2] 
 [UU_]
 []  recovery = 43.7% (4590464/10484608) finish=1.4min
 speed=69615K/sec

 That configuration works well, but I'm not sure if md1 is the parity
 disk here, that's why I asked. May be I'm wrong and RAID-5 is the only
 worth array, I'm just trying to consider all pros and cons here.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.
 I only use RAID-0 (when I want performance and don't care about the data), 
 RAID-1 (for data I can't afford to loose) and RAID-5 (data I would like to 
 keep). I have never bothered with RAID-4.

 [...]
 I've run some tests with different chunk sizes, the fastest was
 raid-10(4 disks), raid-5(3 disks) was closely after. Raid-4(4 disks) was
 almost as fast as raid-5 so I don't see any sense to use it.

 Best regards,
 Bushkov E.



 When you have an array with uneven disk speeds, you might consider using
 the --write-mostly option of mdadm:
 -W, --write-mostly
 subsequent devices lists in a --build, --create, or --add command
 will be flagged as 'write-mostly'. This is valid for RAID1 only and
 means that the 'md' driver will avoid reading from these devices if at
 all possible. This can be useful if mirroring over a slow link.

 This should help in concurrent read and write operations because the
 kernel will not dispatch read requests to a disk that is already having
 trouble managing the write operations.

 On another point: Are you sure your disks have different speeds? SATA150
 and 300 are no reliable indicator because most HDDs cannot saturate the
 SATA port anyway. dd is still the most reliable way to measure
 sequential throughput.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp

 `man 4 md` also states that the the last of the active devices in the
 array is the parity disk in a RAID4.

 Regards,
 Florian Philipp

Thank you, that's what I was searching for. It seems I configured my
RAID-4 right. Nonetheless that array wasn't better than RAID-5. Finally
I created RAID-5 (two sataII drives and 1 sata/150) with lvm.
From a test time dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/gentoo/bigfile bs=1M
count=3000 I've got 163 MB/s. That in any way better than my 1-disk
system(46.7 MB/s from the same test) that I've been using.
As regard interfaces speeds I ran hdparm command and got:
livecd src # hdparm -i /dev/sd[abd]|grep UDMA 
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
So you are right, all the drives seem to utilize the same interface speed.

Best regards,
Bushkov E.





Re: [gentoo-user] Apache is running but its log is not

2011-05-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:

 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:48:48 Adam Carter wrote:
   Well, 2.2.17 is indeed my server, but I decided to stop it and start it
   again.  Current log files showed up.
   Problem solved, by brute force again, and without any epiphanies of
   understanding.
 
  Last guess - logrotate is managing the log files but not reloading apache
  afterwards. Check that the entries in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 have a
 line
  in there that runs /etc/init.d/apache2 reload.

 Adam,

 I think you got a really good guess. :)
 Especially as the log-files listed by lsof have status deleted:
 **
 apache25288   root9w  REG   8,44  57327591 204998
 /var/log/apache2/access_log-20110204 (deleted)
 **

 Interesting things happen when a file is deleted while a process still has
 access.

 --
 Joost

 Indeed they do.  I used to teach it to my students as a technique for
getting
a *really* temporary private file (combined with O_EXCL).

I'm about to try this, and I may change it a bit because when I restarted
apache,
reload didn't work.  I had to stop it and restart it.  Maybe I'll submit a
bug if I
can make sense out of what happens with 'reload' and it always happens.

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] emerge stopped working

2011-05-04 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Davide Carnovale 
francesco.davide.carnov...@gmail.com wrote:

 yes, the problem was that python 2.6 was unmerged and the new one wasn't
 selected yet. so eselecting the new python (2.7) and running python-updater
 restored my system. i used an usb version of the livedvd to help me in this,
 as wicd was among the broken things and i couldn't connect to the net to
 download the required packages to update python.
 so thanks everyone for the hints that led me to the solution and particular
 thanks to helmut, alan, kevin and stroller.
 i'll follow your suggestions and definitely pay more attention in the
 future while updating the system =)

 D


 2011/5/3 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de

 On 05/02/2011 06:05:08 PM, Davide Carnovale wrote:
  @alan, no error are printed, where and what should i look for in the
  logs?
 
  @helmut python just returns to the console, without error or effect
  of
  any
  sort, does it means python has get unmerged and that's why emerge
  doesn't
  work anymore?
 

 You have got many hints from others.
 To consider the problem from all sides you my try

 ldd /usr/bin/python2.6
 ldd /usr/bin/python2.7

 and see if all dynamic libraries could be loaded.

 And if that fails, here a hint from an earlier thread

 Recovering Gentoo from a broken python
  This may be a life saver. I noticed that I have two version of python
 installed on my Gentoo box. So I thought I'd try uninstalling the old
 one. This actually uninstalls the latest version libraries leaving me
 with a warning such as ImportError: no such module time. This is bad
 as you cannot use emerge at all not even to emerge python to fix
 things. To fix, as root:

 cd /root
 wget http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/Python-2.7.1.tar.bz2
 tar jxvf Python-2.7.1.tar.bz2
 cd Python-2.7.1
 ./configure
 make
 ./python emerge python
 cd /root
 rm -rf Python-2.7.1*
 You are now fixed.

 Or replace 2.7.1 by 2.6.6 if your system has been running under
 Python 2.6 before the problem arose.

 Helmut.



Thanks from me too.

Lots of good ideas in this thread.  I'm glad the thread was there already
when I ran into exactly the same thing.
I can't even take refuge in claiming to be a n00b -- I've run gentoo on my
main machine since somewhere
around 2002, when I finished grad school and bought it for myself as a
present. (two dual-core Xeons, 2GB DDR ECC,
built from parts as suggested as the machine of the year (or something like
that) by Linux Journal).

I wound up with Gentoo because slower-release distros did not have kernels
that knew how to configure such a
machine -- I never figured out if it was the Xeon stuff or just SMP.
Anyway, an up-to-date kernel avoided it
triggering clock slowdowns.  Nothing like having a state-of-the-art machine
that persists in running at 10%.

I do try to get elogs by email, but its flakey for some reason. But some of
those other steps mentioned above I've never
heard of before.   Time for a little studying (sigh).

-- 
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD


Re: [gentoo-user] Apache is running but its log is not

2011-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:15 on Wednesday 04 May 2011, Joost 
Roeleveld did opine thusly:

 On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:48:48 Adam Carter wrote:
   Well, 2.2.17 is indeed my server, but I decided to stop it and start it
   again.  Current log files showed up.
   Problem solved, by brute force again, and without any epiphanies of
   understanding.
  
  Last guess - logrotate is managing the log files but not reloading apache
  afterwards. Check that the entries in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 have a
  line in there that runs /etc/init.d/apache2 reload.
 
 Adam,
 
 I think you got a really good guess. :)
 Especially as the log-files listed by lsof have status deleted:
 **
 apache25288   root9w  REG   8,44  57327591 204998
 /var/log/apache2/access_log-20110204 (deleted)
 **
 
 Interesting things happen when a file is deleted while a process still has
 access.

You mean like as in it's name goes away and absolutely nothing else changes 
whatsoever?

The only trouble you can run into is that new process that did not have the 
file open now cannot find it. 

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Tool to check PDF against PDF/X-3 ?

2011-05-04 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello!


I am looking for a Tool to check PDF files against the PDF/X-3:2002
standard that some printing vendors seem to request in case of providing
vector sources.

The tool needs to

 1) be free software as defined by the FSF [1], and

 2) work on Linux.


Has anyone seen such a thing?

Thanks in advance,



Sebastian


[1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html



Re: [gentoo-user] Apache is running but its log is not

2011-05-04 Thread kashani

On 5/4/2011 7:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

Apparently, though unproven, at 08:15 on Wednesday 04 May 2011, Joost
Roeleveld did opine thusly:


On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:48:48 Adam Carter wrote:

Well, 2.2.17 is indeed my server, but I decided to stop it and start it
again.  Current log files showed up.
Problem solved, by brute force again, and without any epiphanies of
understanding.


Last guess - logrotate is managing the log files but not reloading apache
afterwards. Check that the entries in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 have a
line in there that runs /etc/init.d/apache2 reload.


Adam,

I think you got a really good guess. :)
Especially as the log-files listed by lsof have status deleted:
**
apache25288   root9w  REG   8,44  57327591 204998
/var/log/apache2/access_log-20110204 (deleted)
**

Interesting things happen when a file is deleted while a process still has
access.


You mean like as in it's name goes away and absolutely nothing else changes
whatsoever?

The only trouble you can run into is that new process that did not have the
file open now cannot find it.



	If you're doing it poorly enough, you can fill the filesystem with 
deleted files. The other fun one is having a daemon grow larger and 
larger because it's not letting go of files that were deleted while it 
had them open.


kashani



Re: [gentoo-user] Tool to check PDF against PDF/X-3 ?

2011-05-04 Thread pk
On 2011-05-04 18:28, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
 Hello!
 
 
 I am looking for a Tool to check PDF files against the PDF/X-3:2002
 standard that some printing vendors seem to request in case of providing
 vector sources.
 
 The tool needs to
 
  1) be free software as defined by the FSF [1], and
 
  2) work on Linux.
 
 
 Has anyone seen such a thing?

Sorry, haven't seen such a thing but can't they (the printing vendors)
accept postscript as well? I know some (academic) publishers requires
you to use specially formatted TeX templates which, of course, is not
the same thing but I would be surprised if the printshop wouldn't accept
postscript since the resulting dvi files (from the *TeX output) are
usually translated to postscript (or maybe I'm behind the times...).
Postscript is a vector format (all text, figures and pictures [if the
picture source is in vector format] are made up of lines and bezier curves).

HTH

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] Apache is running but its log is not

2011-05-04 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 18:14:49 kashani wrote:
 On 5/4/2011 7:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Apparently, though unproven, at 08:15 on Wednesday 04 May 2011, Joost
  
  Roeleveld did opine thusly:
  On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:48:48 Adam Carter wrote:
  Well, 2.2.17 is indeed my server, but I decided to stop it and start
  it again.  Current log files showed up.
  Problem solved, by brute force again, and without any epiphanies of
  understanding.
  
  Last guess - logrotate is managing the log files but not reloading
  apache afterwards. Check that the entries in /etc/logrotate.d/apache2
  have a line in there that runs /etc/init.d/apache2 reload.
  
  Adam,
  
  I think you got a really good guess. :)
  Especially as the log-files listed by lsof have status deleted:
  **
  apache25288   root9w  REG   8,44  57327591
  204998 /var/log/apache2/access_log-20110204 (deleted)
  **
  
  Interesting things happen when a file is deleted while a process still
  has access.
  
  You mean like as in it's name goes away and absolutely nothing else
  changes whatsoever?
  
  The only trouble you can run into is that new process that did not have
  the file open now cannot find it.
 
   If you're doing it poorly enough, you can fill the filesystem with
 deleted files. The other fun one is having a daemon grow larger and
 larger because it's not letting go of files that were deleted while it
 had them open.

Does your /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 script contain something like this:

/var/log/apache2/*log {
  missingok
  notifempty
  sharedscripts
  postrotate
  /etc/init.d/apache2 reload  /dev/null 21 || true
  endscript
}

-- 
Regards,
Mick


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


[gentoo-user] videos that won't go away.

2011-05-04 Thread Dale

Hi folks,

I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for to 
get a fix.  When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then close 
the tab or close the browser, the video is still there.  If the video 
contains text, it is really noticeable.  It's like a freeze frame of 
what ever was there when I closed the tab or browser.  It does this in 
both Seamonkey and Firefox.  The video affects my desktop wallpaper or 
background, Konsole, Kpatience, and any other program I have open.  It 
is weird.  Some programs like Konsole, which is running as root, just 
sort of distort in some weird way.  The only way to correct this 
weirdness is to log out of KDE and back in.  That returns everything 
back to normal.  Closing the app I was using to play the video does not 
work.


If I use Firefox and download helper to capture the video and save it, I 
can play the video with Smplayer with no ill effects.  It plays and 
closes just fine.  It's just when I use Seamonkey or Firefox that this 
happens.


I have upgraded the kernel and had upgrades to both Seamonkey and 
Firefox.  I have recompiled the nvidia drivers as well.  The nvidia 
drivers, kernel and other info is here:


root@fireball / # equery list seamonkey
[ Searching for package 'seamonkey' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] www-client/seamonkey-2.0.14 (0)
root@fireball / # equery list firefox
[ Searching for package 'firefox' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] www-client/firefox-3.6.17 (0)
root@fireball / # equery list nvidia
[ Searching for package 'nvidia' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] media-video/nvidia-settings-260.19.29 (0)
[I--] [ ~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-260.19.44 (0)
root@fireball / # equery list xorg
[ Searching for package 'xorg' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.9 (0)
[I--] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.5 (0)
root@fireball / # uname -r
2.6.38-gentoo-r3
root@fireball / #

I have not tried a emerge -e world yet.  I may do that when KDE 4.6.3 is 
released.


Does anyone have any clue as to what could cause this?  If you need more 
info, let me know.


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Cmdline image resizer understanding gamma ?

2011-05-04 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello!


I stumbled upon the article

  Gamma error in picture scaling
  http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/gamma.html#Use_a_correct_software

recently.  I was actually pointed to it be some tool applying the proper
algortihm.  I think it was command line.

Especially as I don't trust ImageMagick with files that matter I would
love to find (or re-find) a command line tool that properly handles
Gamma when resizing images.  Needs be free software.  Anyone?

Thanks,



Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Tether a Google Nexus One?

2011-05-04 Thread Grant
 I agree with Mark. Have you received the GB update? I know not all N1s have
 received it yet, so I apologize if my assumption is wrong and you're still
 running Froyo. But I have had the same experience as Mark (and I am running
 gentoo) where it is almost as plug-n-play as you can get. (Assuming you're
 running GB):
 1) Plug in usb to phone and computer
 2) Enable usb tethering in Wireless  network settings
 3) Tethering  portable hotspot
 4) USB tethering (check)
 As root:
 ---snip---
 ifconfig usb0 up
 dhcpcd usb0
 ---snip---
 I don't believe the tethering experience was much more difficult in Froyo,
 but I could be wrong about that.
 - Matt

Thanks guys, the wifi hotspot works great but I can't get USB
tethering to work.  I don't seem to have the usb0 device, even after
enabling USB tethering in the settings:

# ifconfig /dev/usb0 up
/dev/usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

Any ideas?  I'm on Android 2.3.3.

- Grant


 Does anyone know if a Google Nexus One cell phone can be USB tethered
 to a Gentoo system?  I use wvdial to accomplish this with other cell
 phones but I've read that the Nexus One doesn't work that way because
 it doesn't appear on the host system as a tty:

 http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?23,146509,147989

 There is a tethering option in the Nexus One settings but I can't
 figure out how to get my Gentoo laptop to use the tethered cell
 phone's internet connection.

 - Grant


 If your phone is anything like my phone (G2, Gingerbread) that has the
 same option, you should be able to do the following (I did this on an Arch
 system late last week, never tested on Gentoo but should work):
 ifconfig usb0 up
 dhcpcd usb0

 That should get you online.



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Tether a Google Nexus One?

2011-05-04 Thread David Abbott
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any ideas?  I'm on Android 2.3.3.

 - Grant

Works fine here, this should help;
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-843255.html



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Tether a Google Nexus One?

2011-05-04 Thread Mark Shields
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I agree with Mark. Have you received the GB update? I know not all N1s
 have
  received it yet, so I apologize if my assumption is wrong and you're
 still
  running Froyo. But I have had the same experience as Mark (and I am
 running
  gentoo) where it is almost as plug-n-play as you can get. (Assuming
 you're
  running GB):
  1) Plug in usb to phone and computer
  2) Enable usb tethering in Wireless  network settings
  3) Tethering  portable hotspot
  4) USB tethering (check)
  As root:
  ---snip---
  ifconfig usb0 up
  dhcpcd usb0
  ---snip---
  I don't believe the tethering experience was much more difficult in
 Froyo,
  but I could be wrong about that.
  - Matt

 Thanks guys, the wifi hotspot works great but I can't get USB
 tethering to work.  I don't seem to have the usb0 device, even after
 enabling USB tethering in the settings:

 # ifconfig /dev/usb0 up
 /dev/usb0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device

 Any ideas?  I'm on Android 2.3.3.

 - Grant


  Does anyone know if a Google Nexus One cell phone can be USB tethered
  to a Gentoo system?  I use wvdial to accomplish this with other cell
  phones but I've read that the Nexus One doesn't work that way because
  it doesn't appear on the host system as a tty:
 
  http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?23,146509,147989
 
  There is a tethering option in the Nexus One settings but I can't
  figure out how to get my Gentoo laptop to use the tethered cell
  phone's internet connection.
 
  - Grant
 
 
  If your phone is anything like my phone (G2, Gingerbread) that has the
  same option, you should be able to do the following (I did this on an
 Arch
  system late last week, never tested on Gentoo but should work):
  ifconfig usb0 up
  dhcpcd usb0
 
  That should get you online.


Drop the /dev/ part of your ifconfig command.  ifconfig refers to devices
by their name, not their full path+name.


[gentoo-user] QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths

2011-05-04 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Hello!

I just installed a Gentoo box and i am having a bizarre problem (bizarre for
me at least), i'd like to point that the only solution i have found so far
(attempt to modify some eclass) is way beyond the limit of complexness that
i am used to so if there is another way i would really appreciate if anyone
pointed it out for me

And in case it is not obvious, i am pretty much of a rookie regardind gentoo
and linux in general

anyway, thanks in advance!!!

The thing is that emerging mirrorselect has the following outcome:

* QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths
 * ERROR: dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428 failed:
 *   soiled libtool library files found
 *
 * Call stack:
 *   misc-functions.sh, line 979:  Called install_qa_check
 *   misc-functions.sh, line 540:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   [[ ${abort} == yes ]]  die soiled libtool library files found
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428'.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/temp/environment'.
 * S:
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/work/dialog-1.1-20100428'
!!! post install failed; exiting.

 Failed to emerge dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428, Log file:

  '/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/temp/build.log'

 * Messages for package dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428:

 * ERROR: dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428 failed:
 *   soiled libtool library files found
 *
 * Call stack:
 *   misc-functions.sh, line 979:  Called install_qa_check
 *   misc-functions.sh, line 540:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   [[ ${abort} == yes ]]  die soiled libtool library files found
 *
 * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428',
 * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428'.
 * The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/temp/environment'.
 * S:
'/var/tmp/portage/dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428/work/dialog-1.1-20100428'

Following portage's advice i post the emerge --info output (i do need
support after all)

Portage 2.1.9.42 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.4.5, libc-0-r0,
2.6.37-gentoo-r4 i686)
=
System Settings
=
System uname: Linux-2.6.37-gentoo-r4-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-with-gentoo-1.12.14
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 03 May 2011 17:00:01 +
app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9
dev-lang/python: 2.7.1-r1, 3.1.3-r1
sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.14-r1
sys-apps/sandbox:2.4
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.65-r1
sys-devel/automake:  1.11.1
sys-devel/binutils:  2.20.1-r1
sys-devel/gcc:   4.4.5
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1
sys-devel/libtool:   2.2.10
sys-devel/make:  3.81-r2
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.36.1
sys-libs/glibc:  2.11.3
virtual/os-headers:  0
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86
ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA
CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/gconf
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo
CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
FEATURES=assume-digests binpkg-logs distlocks fixlafiles fixpackages news
parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn
unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch
FFLAGS=
GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://distfiles.gentoo.org;
LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
USE=acl berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups cxx dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv
ipv6 modules mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd
python readline session ssl sysfs tcpd unicode x86 xorg zlib
ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1
emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m
maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file
hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null
plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic
authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm
authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex
cache cgi cgid dav 

Re: [gentoo-user] videos that won't go away.

2011-05-04 Thread Adam Carter
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for to get a
 fix.  When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then close the tab or
 close the browser, the video is still there.


I've had a lot of trouble with flash recently, especially with it killing
sound (using ~amd64 for the flash player due to the constant security
issues, most of the system is amd64).

Try killing flash so it restarts to see if that helps get things working.
Sometimes my system needs a full reboot - even restarting X doesnt help.


Re: [gentoo-user] videos that won't go away.

2011-05-04 Thread Dale

Adam Carter wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com 
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi folks,

I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for
to get a fix.  When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then
close the tab or close the browser, the video is still there.


I've had a lot of trouble with flash recently, especially with it 
killing sound (using ~amd64 for the flash player due to the constant 
security issues, most of the system is amd64).


Try killing flash so it restarts to see if that helps get things 
working. Sometimes my system needs a full reboot - even restarting X 
doesnt help.


The one thing I didn't think of to try.  How silly of me.  lol

One thing I just noticed, it doesn't always do this.  I went back to a 
link that did it just before I posted and it worked fine this time.  So, 
this appears to be a intermittent problem which opens a new can of 
worms.  We all know how hard it is to fix those.


I'll try killing flash next time it does it and see what that does.

Dale

:-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] videos that won't go away.

2011-05-04 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 23:04:09 Dale wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for to
 get a fix.  When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then close
 the tab or close the browser, the video is still there. 

Have you checked if xulrunner and the adobe flash plugin is still running 
*after* you shut down seamonkey/FF?

I noticed on a 32bit machine that the latest stable xulrunner/FF update (or 
was it the nss  nspr libs that caused this) has increased both CPU  memory 
consumption, but can't say for sure.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths

2011-05-04 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 May 2011 03:00:23 Rafael Barrera Oro wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I just installed a Gentoo box and i am having a bizarre problem (bizarre
 for me at least), i'd like to point that the only solution i have found so
 far (attempt to modify some eclass) is way beyond the limit of complexness
 that i am used to so if there is another way i would really appreciate if
 anyone pointed it out for me
 
 And in case it is not obvious, i am pretty much of a rookie regardind
 gentoo and linux in general
 
 anyway, thanks in advance!!!
 
 The thing is that emerging mirrorselect has the following outcome:
 
 * QA Notice: libdialog.la appears to contain PORTAGE_TMPDIR paths
  * ERROR: dev-util/dialog-1.1.20100428 failed:
  *   soiled libtool library files found

Hmm ... I don't know why this is caused, but I would run:

  emerge --oneshot -av libtool

and then 

  revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask
-- 
Regards,
Mick


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.


Re: [gentoo-user] videos that won't go away.

2011-05-04 Thread Dale

Mick wrote:

On Wednesday 04 May 2011 23:04:09 Dale wrote:
   

Hi folks,

I noticed something weird but I'm not sure what to even search for to
get a fix.  When I play a video with Seamonkey or Firefox, then close
the tab or close the browser, the video is still there.
 

Have you checked if xulrunner and the adobe flash plugin is still running
*after* you shut down seamonkey/FF?

I noticed on a 32bit machine that the latest stable xulrunner/FF update (or
was it the nss  nspr libs that caused this) has increased both CPU  memory
consumption, but can't say for sure.
   


That I have not tried.  I do think that it got worse after the upgrade 
of flash.  I can't recall which version was the last that did it tho.  I 
have upgraded flash stuff and browser stuff so I can't point to which is 
causing what.


I have noticed a larger use of memory tho.  I have 16Gbs here and it 
uses a good bit more than it used to.  Maybe another upgrade will reduce 
it back down.  Wonder why programs have to use so much now?  Maybe the 
new html5 will change that.  ;-)


I'm waiting on it to do it again.  It is random but I don't recall it 
ever doing it on youtube.  I spend a lot of time there.  lol


Dale

:-)  :-)