Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it. Many of us actually like the modern features of the kernel, glibc, udev, dbus, systemd, pulseaudio,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote: Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm just thinking it would depending on what lv are on what drives. I dunno, just

Re: [gentoo-user] how to install from ISO without burning it

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 2:04 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been looking around for a way to install gentoo just by plopping an ISO into a known partition,. I'm not getting much from google on this search string: install gentoo directly from iso. Or I should say: I've found a

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote: Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that? I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluanpa...@poluan.info wrote: On Sep 19, 2011 11:12 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2011 12:34:54 Dale wrote: Does LVM make the heads move around more or anything like that?

[gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Datty
Hi all, I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot where my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the background because I can login blind and hear the login sound. To get it to work I have to continually switch between ttys until it decides

[gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 17/09/11, pk wrote: dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am thinking of installing something else due to it's becoming bloated just like gnome). And I have -dbus in my global make.conf. PS. I am quite astonished at the fact that I have a computer that is

Re: [gentoo-user] HPLIP plugin file

2011-09-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:13:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: What printer do you have. I use foo2zjs with a LaserJet 1022 and thought it was the only way, not that it causes me any problems. I have the LaserJer 1020, foo2zjs used to be the only way to print for me, too; by chance, I was

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Thanasis
on 09/19/2011 11:01 AM Dale wrote the following: What I was thinking about is this. You have two drives that is one lv. It has to be data stored on both drives at some point. Example, you have a data base that is 500Gbs. You have two drives that are 300Gbs each that are in the same lv.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:01:32 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added. Plus there's the possibility that the second PV has a different size. I might be

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Monday, September 19, 2011 03:01:32 AM Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluanpa...@poluan.info wrote: I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 2:29 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:51:03 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I'm not sure if LVM by itself implement striping. Most likely not because LVM usually starts with 1 HD then gets additional PVs added. Plus

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread walt
On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine and saw the portage warning that libpng14 has been replaced by

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Mick
On Monday 19 Sep 2011 09:05:21 Datty wrote: Hi all, I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot where my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the background because I can login blind and hear the login sound. To get it to work I have to

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:26:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.: [snip] LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. Use RAID for that instead and leave LVM

Re: [gentoo-user] how to install from ISO without burning it

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've been looking around for a way to install gentoo just by plopping an ISO into a known partition,. I'm not getting much from google on this search string:   install gentoo directly from iso.  Or I should say: I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, Sep 18 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I wonder when a routine update world tells you to run revdep-rebuild --library some-lib should you run it before or after the full revdep-rebuild that we normally run

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. Use RAID for that instead and leave LVM to do what it's good at - managing storage volumes

Re: [gentoo-user] HPLIP plugin file

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:38 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:13:32 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: What printer do you have. I use foo2zjs with a LaserJet 1022 and thought it was the only way, not that it causes me any problems. I have the LaserJer 1020,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just some things. ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known to have been updated, but a full revdep-rebuild after an update will catch those anyway.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. Use RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:55:19 +0200 Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: My personal preference would be option 1 as I agree with Alan that LVM should stick to managing LVs and leave striping and other options to RAID- devices/software. My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 17/09/11, pk wrote: dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am thinking of installing something else due to it's becoming bloated just like gnome). And I have -dbus in my global

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just some things. ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known to have been updated, but a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just some things. ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check just the libraries known to have been updated,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 17/09/11, pk wrote: dbus is installed in my system, but only because I run Xfce4 (I am thinking of installing something else due to it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just some things. ebuilds sometimes issue messages to check

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread walt
On 09/19/2011 07:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-09-19 at 01:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:58:14 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Sep 18 2011, walt wrote: I just did a

Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to GLSA?

2011-09-19 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 17.09.2011 15:13, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:17:56 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Hi list! Since GLSAs are in their current state of disregard, I'm searching for another way to be informed about security fixes. What do you think is the best

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:58:52 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Datty
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 19 Sep 2011 09:05:21 Datty wrote: Hi all, I've been having a few problems with my gentoo install mainly on boot where my screen will be blank when starting X. X is definitely working in the background

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:58:52 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: First one emerges *broken* packages. Second one emerge packages *using* png14 (not necessarily broken) OK. But the claim was that: if revdep-rebuild with no argument found nothing to build, then

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen not turning on at startx. Nvidia Gfx

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:23:23 +0100 Datty datty@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the reply, I have looked at the document but unfortunately I can't use Nouveau because I need 3d so I went for what I could use. I've dropped uvesafb totally as it was pretty much useless anyway. It has sort of

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 10:05 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:54:52 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: LVM does do striping according to the man page. I've never tried it, mostly because LVM is the wrong place to do that IMHO. Use RAID for

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 19, 2011 10:07 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: My preference is to get rid of this whole artifical disk/block-device/partition/pv/vg/lv nonsense and have one layer that does it all. I really don't see the point in persisting with keeping knowledge of distinct disks all

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 17:28:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:58:52 -0400 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: First one emerges *broken* packages. Second one emerge packages *using* png14 (not necessarily broken) OK. But the claim was that: if

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: OK.  But the claim was that: if   revdep-rebuild with no argument found nothing to build, then   revdep-rebuild --library some-library will find nothing. I think what everyone (except Michael S) seems to be confused

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:10:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:06:30 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I don't skip the --library step any more. That's odd behaviour, I wonder what caused the

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Chromium

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All! I think Google Chrome/Chromium is an excellent browser and I have been using it for a year or more. But there is one issue which is disturbing me and I would like to know what is your experience. Maybe a

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Chromium

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All! I think Google Chrome/Chromium is an excellent browser and I have been using it for a year or more. But there is one issue

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread pk
On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote: The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy. You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to, e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel) I've never used genkernel and always compile my own kernels...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread covici
Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Monday, 19. September 2011 10:20:25 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: revdep-rebuild checks everything, revdep-rebuild --library checks just some things.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-09-18 21:52, Michael Mol wrote: The kernel configuration process is actually very nice and very easy. You an remove any features you don't want or need. (I'm referring to, e.g. menuconfig. I haven't really used genkernel)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 18:55:01 schrieb pk: On 2011-09-18 14:56, Alan McKinnon wrote: And he's using Audacious - a fork of a gigantic bug nest (mms) . According to his earlier post, it forces dbus to run. Xmms, I believe it's called. And it's been working fine for quite a while

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk: again, if it you say 'it must be bad because there is a bug in it' you can disregard all

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:52:16 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: I think you need to take a closer look; it does support a lot of modern parts of the stack (as you call it); it's just focused on the things that matters (for an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The 17/09/11, pk wrote: dbus is installed in my system, but only because I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:21:08 schrieb Paul Colquhoun: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 09:31:56 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Just don't expect everybody to run our systems without the modern parts of the stack just because a Commodore 64 cannot run it. Many of us actually like the modern

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 09:58:10 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag 18 September 2011, 15:19:29 schrieb pk:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:30:41 +0200 Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote: The

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't think I ever got around to setting it up; you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do hardware mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 16:22:31 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: OK.  But the claim was that: if   revdep-rebuild with no argument found nothing to build, then   revdep-rebuild --library some-library will find nothing. I think what everyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 19:43:50 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't think I ever got around to setting it up; you don't set it up. It just works.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: When revdep-rebuild --library is suggested should we run it before or after the ordinary revdep-rebuild that we typically run after each update world? I think you should run it with --library first. There exists the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread pk
On 2011-09-19 16:22, Alan McKinnon wrote: Try run a browser on that Amiga. I doubt it would even manage to display the Gentoo logo at http://www.gentoo.org. Actually, I used Mosaic to surf the web and then moved on to a browser called IBrowse (then Voyager...). Worked like a charm (esp.

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all that would be possible. Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like NetApp or HDS :-) I have those options too. But the team that runs the SAN

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: But it is a web-browser, that runs on classic amiga os and I really think, that it can display http://www.gentoo.org just fine. so can lynx. Does it make it usefull with todays internet? There are

[gentoo-user] Problem with php_value in apache

2011-09-19 Thread Naira Kaieski
Hi, Since my last gentoo update, my directives php_value and php_admin_value in Apache configuration file don't work. I has www-servers/apache-2.2.20 [2.2.17] dev-lang/php-5.3.8 [5.3.6] In some of my virtual host i have a especific configuration for charset of php and charset of my

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: I recall reading about dmix in LinuxJournal years ago, but I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 23:06:18 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: FWIW, PulseAudio predates Windows Vista, Windows 7, even MacOS X. I ran it on a 200MHz machine back when it was called Enlightenment Sound Daemon. Pulseaudio was meant to be a drop in replacement

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with php_value in apache

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 16:16:53 -0300 Naira Kaieski na...@faccat.br wrote: Hi, Since my last gentoo update, my directives php_value and php_admin_value in Apache configuration file don't work. I has www-servers/apache-2.2.20 [2.2.17] dev-lang/php-5.3.8 [5.3.6] In some of my virtual

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another lib tool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, Sep 19 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: When revdep-rebuild --library is suggested should we run it before or after the ordinary revdep-rebuild that we typically run after each update world? I think you should run it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: SNIP ajglap gottlieb # revdep-rebuild; revdep-rebuild --library '/usr/lib64/libpng14.so.14' SNIP Is there no automated way to catch these? --library

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: SNIP ajglap gottlieb # revdep-rebuild; revdep-rebuild --library

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:20:30 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 12:37:16 schrieb Michael Mol: I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:12:57 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: But it is a web-browser, that runs on classic amiga os and I really think, that it can display http://www.gentoo.org just fine. so

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: SNIP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 September 2011 16:49:55 David W Noon wrote: I hope this has explained why we should take messages about running revdep-rebuild --library libXXX seriously. Well, you have me convinced. I had assumed that a bland revdep-rebuild would catch everything including the library

[gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/18/2011 11:10 PM, walt wrote: I just did a routine update on my ~amd64 machine and saw the portage warning that libpng14 has been replaced by libpng15, and I should run revdep-rebuild --library '/usr/lib/libpng14.so' and then delete the obsolete library. Oh crap. I somehow missed that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Monday, 19. September 2011 13:52:26 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:46:33 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 21:12:57 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: But it is a web-browser, that runs on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: On Monday, 19. September 2011 13:52:26 Mark Knecht wrote: SNIP /lib64/libncurses.so.5 /lib64/libncurses.so.6 could both exist on the system even if both version of the ncurses package don't. That's right. But keep

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:02:39 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: you don't set it up. It just works. If your sound card does not do hardware mixing (onboard sound doesn't) you are using dmix. Ah. As I said, I hadn't poked or researched dmix since I read about it in LinuxJournal. Pretty sure that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Updating libpng: another libtool cockup?

2011-09-19 Thread covici
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Monday 19 September 2011 16:49:55 David W Noon wrote: I hope this has explained why we should take messages about running revdep-rebuild --library libXXX seriously. Well, you have me convinced. I had assumed that a bland revdep-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] grub and what happens exactly when booting.

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 20, 2011 3:03 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:40:36 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I had high hopes that ZFS would take us to a new place where all that would be possible. Sounds like you need a SAN Storage solution like

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT rant] udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:48:10PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote alsaplayer. Can't even get more simplistic. You don't even have to run a daemon or server. Just playing music. Or mpg321 or mpg123, both of which are commandline programs. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev + /usr

2011-09-19 Thread Indi
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:43:50 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 19:25:28 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: On Monday, 19. September 2011 18:36:18 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Montag 19 September 2011, 16:41:08 schrieb Michael

[gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. What is another main server of the kernel sources and not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? Best regards, mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread Adam Carter
for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. What is another main server of the kernel sources and not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? kernel.org was h4xor'd - I assume they're bring ftp back when http comes back. IIRC Linus

Re: [gentoo-user] ftp.kernel.org is dead...long lives...what?

2011-09-19 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 20, 2011 9:51 AM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: for a longer time now ftp.kernel.org is not reachable and it seems it is not in the DNS anymore. What is another main server of the kernel sources and not a mirror of the now dead one ftp.kernel.org? kernel.org was

[gentoo-user] Confuzzled about bug severity

2011-09-19 Thread Michael Mol
I've filed two bug reports today[1][2]. Now, when filing bugs, the dropdown for 'severity' includes Critical: The software crashes, hangs, or causes you to lose data. One bug did cause data loss (a configuration wipe; I'm now amused I can use the bugtracker as a backup), and both bugs are