Re: [gentoo-user] New MySQL doc (update 3)

2005-07-13 Thread Kevin Hanson
Chris White wrote:

Added a bazillion spell fixes, also a list of places to find GUI frontends for 
MySQL:

Thanks goes to my mom, my dad, my family for all their support
I'd also like to thank the academy for their hard effort
Philip Webb for tolerating my odd grammar/spelling/logic
Bruce Wolk for the same
And most importantly, I'd like to thank the fine folks at Speedy's dinner!

http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

Chris White
  

I know you've seen this twice from other replies, but you still haven't
changed it.  It's not Standard Query Language, it's Structured Query
Language.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread David Morgan
On 10:50 Wed 13 Jul , Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 uclibc profile
 /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86/
 

That's probably the problem then

 How can I check?

Profiles have use.mask files.

uclibc/x86 doesn't have one, but it's parent is uclibc whose parent is
base, and win32codecs is in /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask, which
is the reason why you can't use win32codecs.

You could remove win32codecs from base/use.mask, try and use it and see
if it works since it shouldn't break anything. But each time you did
emerge sync it'd get written over.

Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle and mplayer

2005-07-13 Thread David Morgan
On 22:19 Tue 12 Jul , Canek Pel??ez wrote:
 Isn't ogle unsupported? I suppose it has to do with Xv, but I don't know 
 really.
 
 Anyway, I'm pretty sure ogle is unsupported.
 

What makes you say that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Holly Bostick
David Morgan schreef:

 You could remove win32codecs from base/use.mask, try and use it and see
 if it works since it shouldn't break anything. But each time you did
 emerge sync it'd get written over.

Which is why the proper way to unmask a hard-masked package is to enter
it into /etc/portage/package.unmask (and often thereafter also into
/etc/portage/package.keywords, as many hard-masked packages are also
keyword-masked).

HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] gentoo web development tool

2005-07-13 Thread simply change
AybOwan!

dear friends,

what is the gentoo official web site WEB DEVELOPMENT TOOL? (like screem, nvu or what?)-- ...The future lies ahead. ___ Have you mooed today?  ---
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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Holly Bostick
David Morgan schreef:
 On 12:06 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote:
 
Which is why the proper way to unmask a hard-masked package is to enter
it into /etc/portage/package.unmask (and often thereafter also into
/etc/portage/package.keywords, as many hard-masked packages are also
keyword-masked).

 
 
 Great, but what does that have to do with USE flags that are masked on a
 particular profile?

What does which profile it is have to do with the mask?
/etc/portage/package.unmask unmasks hard-masked applications on the
profile you are using-- the profile supercedes all later adjustment
files, insofar as all later adjustment files (/etc/make.conf,
/etc/portage/whatever) all refer to the profile defaults to know what to
adjust.

Obviously -- or at least it seems obvious to me, but that doesn't say
much-- that if the package is hard-masked, the USE flag that is
associated with it will be disabled (because the package the USE flag
would call is unavailable).

So if the package became available (was unmasked), then I would assume
that the USE flag would be enabled, and one could just USE it normally
(via /etc/portage/package.use, or /etc/make.conf).

 
 There's probably an equivalent for them (/etc/portage/profile/use.unmask
 at a guess). I suspect that it's masked for a reason though..

Yes, hard masking is always for a reason-- and the fact that you have to
go through several steps to install a hard-masked package is, I suspect,
for a reason as well.

Hard masking means that there are serious problems with the package
(under certain conditions, if the package is only hard-masked under
certain arches or profiles), and unmasking it via several steps should
drive home that you're doing something that you should consider
carefully before proceeding with. Hard masking also suggests that
testers are needed to nail down the problem, so that the packages can be
unmasked-- so by unmasking it, you are tacitly agreeing to be such a
tester, and to contribute to b.g.o on the subject after all, if the
package has serious problems, you're going to have to deal with them
anyway, so you might as well report what you find.

If you don't want to have anything to do with such a difficult package,
then you shouldn't expend the effort to unmask it... that's why it's
masked, so that those who don't want problems never see it at all.

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[gentoo-user] Finally got mplayer updated

2005-07-13 Thread Jim Hatfield
I posted ages ago about failing to update mplayer due
to compile errors which seemed to be caused by it using header
files under /usr/src/linux.

So after a while of headscratching I did the obvious: renamed
/usr/src/linux to /usr/src/linux.NIU and re-emerged. No problem.

Still don't know why mplayer wants to use the header files under
/usr/src/linux rather than /usr/include, but at least it's fixed.



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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle and mplayer

2005-07-13 Thread luis jure
el Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:19:06 -0500
Canek Peláez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Anyway, I'm pretty sure ogle is unsupported.

is it? i emerged it normally, it wasn't masked or anything. it also used to
work on my previous linux installation.

anyway, i'm using xine now, it's the only dvd player i tried so far that
works well.

best,

lj


¿cómo anda el méxico querido?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread David Morgan
(top posting because I can't be bothered to sort all the irrelevant
 stuff you posted)

The person in question is using /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86 

If you look in /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86/parent you'll see that
t's parent profile is /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/. If you look in
/usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/parent you'll see that it's profile is
/usr/portage/profiles/base.

Now, look in /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask

That's the reason the win32codecs useflag is masked on this profile, as
I explained in an earlier email.

Dave


On 13:28 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote:
 David Morgan schreef:
  On 12:39 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote:
 Obviously -- or at least it seems obvious to me, but that doesn't say
 much-- that if the package is hard-masked, the USE flag that is
 associated with it will be disabled (because the package the USE flag
 would call is unavailable).
  
  
  Maybe, but that's not the way portage works these things out
  
 Well, it looks like you're at least partially right-- I went back to the
 source:
 
  # Copyright 2004 Gentoo Foundation.
  # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
  # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/use.mask,v 1.14 
  2005/05/20 11:52:10 lu_zero Exp $
  
  # This file masks out USE flags that are simply NOT allowed in the default
  # profile for any architecture.  This works, for example, if a non-default
  # profile (such as the selinux profiles) have a USE flag associated with
  # them.
  
  uclibc
  
  # aqua USE flag is only valid on Mac OS X
  aqua
  
  # amd64 only:
  emul-linux-x86
  
  # sparc only:
  ultra1
  
  # x86 only
  divx4linux
  win32codecs
  kqemu
 
 
  # Copyright 2004 Gentoo Foundation.
  # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License, v2
  # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/default-linux/x86/use.mask,v 
  1.8 2005/05/21 01:13:41 lu_zero Exp $
  
  # This file masks out USE flags that are simply NOT allowed in the default
  # x86 profile.  This works, for example, if another architecture's
  # profile have a USE flag associated with (such as altivec, mmx, etc).
  
  # Unmask x86 instruction sets
  -mmx
  -mmx2
  -mmxext
  -sse
  -sse2
  -3dnow
  -3dnowext
  -win32codecs
 
 Plus, these files are where the masks are, the use.mask for the uclibc
 profile only contains
 
  pam
  nls
  nptl
  nis
  # aqua USE flag is only valid on Mac OS X
  aqua
  
  # this seems to pull in pre compiled glibc libs.
  divx4linux
  
  emul-linux-x86
  
  
  
 
 and nothing else (and the other folders in the profile folder don't
 contain a use.mask).
 
 Oh, wait a minute, I think I found it:
 
  # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
  # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
  # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/selinux/use.mask,v 1.1 
  2005/05/08 23:37:08 pebenito Exp $
  
  -selinux
  
  # disallow posix acl since this is SELinux
  acl
  
  # aqua USE flag is only valid on Mac OS X
  aqua
  
  # must use a specific SELinux profile that unmasks this
  uclibc
  
  
  
  # Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
  # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
  # $Header: 
  /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/profiles/selinux/2005.1/x86-uclibc/use.mask,v 1.3 
  2005/05/14 20:53:38 pebenito Exp $
  
  -uclibc
  
  -win32codecs
  
  # PPC instructions
  altivec
  
  nls
  
 
 But from this, it looks like there is no way to unmask the USE flags in
 question-- simply NOT allowed seems pretty definitive, although a
 careful reading of man portage might reveal a loophole. But I doubt it..
 and in fact, it does not seem to have any such, from the files list in
 man portage:
 
 
  SYNOPSIS
 /etc/
make.globals
make.conf(5)
  
 /etc/make.profile/
deprecated
make.defaults
packages
packages.build
package.provided
parent
use.defaults
use.mask
virtuals
  
 /etc/portage/
bashrc
package.mask
package.unmask
package.keywords
package.use
mirrors
categories
  
 /etc/portage/profile/
site-specific overrides of /etc/make.profile/
  
 /usr/portage/profiles/
arch.list
categories
info_pkgs
info_vars
package.mask
profiles.desc
thirdpartymirrors
use.desc
use.local.desc
use.mask
  
 /var/lib/portage/
world
  
 
 Don't see anything like a use.unmask file.
 
 What I would now be interested in, if this concerned me, is why this
 particular USE flag is simply NOT allowed under this extremely
 specialized profile, but I have no idea where I 

Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Holly Bostick
David Morgan schreef:
 (top posting because I can't be bothered to sort all the irrelevant
  stuff you posted)
 
 The person in question is using /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86 
 
 If you look in /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/x86/parent you'll see that
 t's parent profile is /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/. If you look in
 /usr/portage/profiles/uclibc/parent you'll see that it's profile is
 /usr/portage/profiles/base.
 
 Now, look in /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask
 
 That's the reason the win32codecs useflag is masked on this profile, as
 I explained in an earlier email.

But the use.mask-- even the correct one-- still does not lead to an
explanation or documentation of what the mask of a USE flag actually
means or what it means in this particular case (why this specific USE
flag is masked under this specific profile), in such a way that one
would know if it was something one had to learn to live with
(definitively unresolveable), or was in some way unmaskable. That's
the original issue-- is there a way to compile mPlayer using this USE
flag under this profile, or is there not? Normally, *.mask files seem to
contain some explanation of the reason for the mask (even if only
minimal), which is why I was looking through them, but here that does
not seem to be the case. Does that mean that the OP is SOL?

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Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB....etc

2005-07-13 Thread louis brazeau
On 7/13/05, Jim Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can someone remind me what it means when you just
 get millions of GRUBs scrolling up the screen.
 
 Came back from a few days away and my box was locked up.
 Rebooting gets me the GRUB menu but which ever kernel
 I selected started to boot then scrolled up reams of very
 nasty looking messages. Sounded like a hardware fault.
 
 So I reseated the memory, CPU, all connectors, and pulled out
 the CMOS battery for a few minutes. Rebooted, let the BIOS
 memory test run for a while, went into the BIOS setup, reset
 to factory defaults, did a reset configuration data.
 
 Now on boot I just get the continuous scrolling GRUBs. I've
 seen it before but I can't remember what it means
 
 Jim
 
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I've seen that one before.

I solved it by setting the BIOS to LBA for that drive. But for some
people the following link is the solution :
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml?style=printable

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread David Morgan
On 14:49 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote:
 But the use.mask-- even the correct one-- still does not lead to an
 explanation or documentation of what the mask of a USE flag actually
 means or what it means in this particular case (why this specific USE
 flag is masked under this specific profile), in such a way that one
 would know if it was something one had to learn to live with
 (definitively unresolveable), or was in some way unmaskable. That's
 the original issue-- is there a way to compile mPlayer using this USE
 flag under this profile, or is there not? Normally, *.mask files seem to
 contain some explanation of the reason for the mask (even if only
 minimal), which is why I was looking through them, but here that does
 not seem to be the case. Does that mean that the OP is SOL?
 

My guess is that he's SOL. If I were in that situation I'd just edit
/usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask and see if win32codecs will work on
that profile, and if they did they I'd try and figure out how to do it
properly.

I think there's a good chance that win32codecs just won't work with
uclibc though. You might be able to find the reason that it's masked on
bugzilla, in the gentoo-embedded archives or on google.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New MySQL doc (update 3)

2005-07-13 Thread kashani

Chris White wrote:

Added a bazillion spell fixes, also a list of places to find GUI frontends for 
MySQL:

Thanks goes to my mom, my dad, my family for all their support
I'd also like to thank the academy for their hard effort
Philip Webb for tolerating my odd grammar/spelling/logic
Bruce Wolk for the same
And most importantly, I'd like to thank the fine folks at Speedy's dinner!

http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/mysql.html

Chris White


Default installations of MySQL are bound only to localhost by way of the 
line bind-address = 127.0.0.1 in my.cnf is a fact that really needs to 
be addressed in your doc.


http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-356728.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-349692.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-344032.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-303769.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-300745.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282209.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-225581.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-206368.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-150044.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting

2005-07-13 Thread Jarry

Richard Fish wrote:


In short, if you don't really know what initramfs is, you are probably
not using it! So I am not sure why you are having this problem.


Neither am I. I already installed a couple of servers with full raid1
using various distros (RedHat, Caldera, Debian), now I'm trying
Gentoo and I can not get past the first booting...   :-(


Could you double check that /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules contains:
# md block devices
KERNEL==md[0-9]*, NAME=md/%n, SYMLINK+=%k, GROUP=disk


Yes, I do have it there...


Also, do you have any custom rules files in /etc/udev/rules.d?


No custom rules. Did not have time to make them, you now, my system
is not booting at all...


In the maintenance mode, does /sys/block/md0/* exist?  What does cat
/proc/mdstat report?


mdstat does not report anything. No /dev/md* exist, so no /dev/md*
is running...

BTW, on gentoo-forum I got answer with link pointing to debian list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2005/02/msg00253.html

It seems (or at least it is discussed there) that this (udev does not
create /dev/md* at startup) is some kernel-bug! If some of our kernel
developers is watching this list, could he confirm or refuse it?
Can I somehow get rid of udev, when it is causing problems to me?

In the meantime I'm trying to update my system to 2.6.12-r4
(up to now I used 2.6.11-r3 from 2005.0 universal installation cd)...

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting

2005-07-13 Thread Mike Williams
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 15:09, Jarry wrote:
 It seems (or at least it is discussed there) that this (udev does not
 create /dev/md* at startup) is some kernel-bug! If some of our kernel
 developers is watching this list, could he confirm or refuse it?
 Can I somehow get rid of udev, when it is causing problems to me?

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/29788

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:13 +0100, David Morgan wrote:
 On 14:49 Wed 13 Jul , Holly Bostick wrote:
  But the use.mask-- even the correct one-- still does not lead to an
  explanation or documentation of what the mask of a USE flag actually
  means or what it means in this particular case (why this specific USE
  flag is masked under this specific profile), in such a way that one
  would know if it was something one had to learn to live with
  (definitively unresolveable), or was in some way unmaskable. That's
  the original issue-- is there a way to compile mPlayer using this USE
  flag under this profile, or is there not? Normally, *.mask files seem to
  contain some explanation of the reason for the mask (even if only
  minimal), which is why I was looking through them, but here that does
  not seem to be the case. Does that mean that the OP is SOL?
  
 
 My guess is that he's SOL.

What is SOL? Someone care to tell me? (I'm the OP)

  If I were in that situation I'd just edit
 /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask and see if win32codecs will work on
 that profile, and if they did they I'd try and figure out how to do it
 properly

Hmm.. I think I will try to comment it out and see what goes/gives.

 
 I think there's a good chance that win32codecs just won't work with
 uclibc though. You might be able to find the reason that it's masked on
 bugzilla, in the gentoo-embedded archives or on google.

I'll trawl and report what I find here (if I find anything :-)

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread David Morgan
On 22:21 Wed 13 Jul , Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 What is SOL? Someone care to tell me? (I'm the OP)

Sh*t out of luck

emerge wtf
wtf sol

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RE: [gentoo-user] Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
 What is SOL? Someone care to tell me? (I'm the OP)

Excrement out of luck, but use the standard slang curse word instead of
excrement.

;-)


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[gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread James
Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes:

 
  Thanks for the scripts and help!
 
 That's what we're here for 
 
  When I roll out a new TCP/IP based data-logger
  (hopefully this fall) it'll take sensor inputs and control a few outputs.
  No humans will use the devices for anything other than interfacing
  sensors and collecting data.
 
 As with most other embedded devices, wouldn't these remain fairly static at
 the OS level?  I mean, would you really want to try to debug why (all of a
 sudden) the remote devices stopped functioning because of an errant package
 emerge?

Well, yes and no. Yes you do not update remote device as often, but, they
do need RTOS/executive/kernel/state-machine updates over time. It's
a huge problem for devices with a microprocessor/microcontroller.
We often design device to store 2 or more bootstrap programs. That way
a remote device can get new bootstrap firmware, and if it fails use the
old boot code. DISTRIBUTION aka over ppp or TCP/IP is very much needed.
Most embedded companies, particulary in the 8-16 bit micro space, do 
a pathetic job at longevity maintenance planning on their embedded devices.
Suppose your remote 8/16 bit micro supports a fat file system on an
8 bit dsp. It's a nightmare support all of the different vendors
flash based cards, so the driver(s) usually use a few select vendors. But
the company with those devices, cuts a deal with a new 'hong-kong'
vendor. Naturally, their flash card does not work. The driver code,
part of the RTOS/executive/kernel/StateMachine has to be updated. Also,
newer versions of processors end up in products, so you get your 
maintenace code now spread over several versions of a processor,
much like the AMD-Intel-Via.saga. 

There is a need for a robust binary and remote compilation solution
for remotely located embedded devices. Flexibility to mix and
match is the key. The applications that run on the
RTOS/kernel/executive/StateMachine need more freequent updates than
the raw OS engine code, but, both need to be maintained. This would also
lead to less disposal of microelectronic devices, world wide. The
garbage dumps of the world, need a little reprieve, in my opinion, too.


 As for learning gentoo at a deeper level, we encourage that.  I would
 suggest, only because it really made things clear for me, that you look at
 Linux from Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org.  It will make the entire
 process for how to custom build a linux box a lot clearer.

Yes this is on my 'todo' list. I consult and work 40-80 hours per week.
Soon I'll have a couple of months off.

 
  The experience I gain form helping kids/adults use Gentoo, will help me
  manage thousands of dataloggers across public and private networks.
  Besides if I screw it up, no big deal. They can always use a winblows
  box until I get it fixed. Strict user control semantics will be
  used to limit what they can screw up.
 
 From an administrative point of view, however, I think you'd be better
 served by having one system working, freeze it and then clone it to the
 other systems.  Skip updates as much as possible.
Sure but updates for microprocessors are the simili for eduction. Do 
you think we should minimize educcation? minimize education for adults?

Methinks your indescretions and prejudices against micros, is insensitive
to the future, sensate possibilitys of micros and the things they inhabit.
micros are entering the human body at an alarming rate. Don't you thing
we need mechanisms to keep their interal code robust and current?
Nanobots are real and the very near future of medicine.



 Basically you'd be taking the same route as other embedded linux products.
 My linksys routers, all linux based, have the ability to handle new firmware
 (linux distribution) but they do not auto-update themselves.

I'm thinking much bigger than router code. My wife if in the middle of
a phD in Biomedical. Her area of expertise is firmware. There is a HUGE
need to further the paradyme.


  I'm also using jffnms to update and manage all sorts of routers and
  industrial contols embedded devices. After some
  time, I'm sure I'll roll my own solution, but for now, managing Gentoo
  user systems and customizing JFFNMS for router and other snmp devices
  is enough of to keep me busy.

 Exactly my point - why introduce even more administrative headaches to have
 thousands of gentoo systems automatically emerging packages on their own?

Well let me remind you of a lawyer story (you know lawyers make much more
money than engineers and computer scientists?) 

There was a small town with with one lawyer. He was financially starving.
Another lawyer move to town, business boomed, and both retired wealthy.
Quit canabalizing computer science and electrical engineer so that we 
die of starvation. The more complex the systems, the more money we can
all make. Beside complex feature-rich systems are wonderful and employ
lots of people. Just look at the space-shuttle

(HUGH 

[gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread James
Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes:

  Thanks for the scripts and help!

 That's what we're here for 

BACKGROUND:
I did not use your scripts yet...today I'll implement them.

I recently set up an internal server for rsync and distfile distribution.
How do I check to ensure that this internal server actually was successful
at downloading the rsync files and the appropriate distfiles for the other
sytems?

I followed part 4 of this document:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml?style=printable

and these 3 documents:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Local_Rsync_Mirror.
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Http_proxy
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Download_Cache_for_LAN-Http-Replicator


PROBLEM?
I manually ran 'emerge -uDp world' today on both a client and the
sever. The client updated a few files, the server returned nothing to update.
I kept another p4 system using rsync and downloading the distfiles separate.

emerge -uDp world shows this file (among others) on the P4 system using the old
external update method:
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r5

The new internal-AMD rsync/distfile server, issueing
'emerge -s gentoo-sources' shows:
  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
  Latest version available: 2.6.12-r4
  Latest version installed: 2.6.12-r4

Is this evidence that the nightly updates, are not working on the
internal server?
Is there a simple test to determine if the updates are working
on the rsync and distfiles?

Did I miss something?
Ideas?



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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
 Methinks your indescretions and prejudices against micros, is insensitive
 to the future, sensate possibilitys of micros and the things they inhabit.
 micros are entering the human body at an alarming rate. Don't you thing
 we need mechanisms to keep their interal code robust and current?
 Nanobots are real and the very near future of medicine.

Yes but we get back to the point that I had been trying to make - the
embedded devices (even nanobots) would not need to build from source.  I
know if I had embedded nanobots I would want them focusing on the job they
were embedded for, not recompiling source from the latest software updates.

That's the distinction between a source based an binary based distribution.
Use the source based distro to optimize for hardware then that is the
template for the binary based distro to the embedded systems.



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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
 I recently set up an internal server for rsync and distfile distribution.
 How do I check to ensure that this internal server actually was successful
 at downloading the rsync files and the appropriate distfiles for the other
 sytems?

/usr/portage/metadata/timestamp contains the timestamp for when the sync was
completed.
 
 PROBLEM?
 I manually ran 'emerge -uDp world' today on both a client and the
 sever. The client updated a few files, the server returned nothing to
 update.
 I kept another p4 system using rsync and downloading the distfiles
 separate.

Since the server is the local rsync mirror it must do it's emerge --sync
first.  After it has completed (note: not during the run), the client(s) can
emerge --sync.
 
 emerge -uDp world shows this file (among others) on the P4 system using
 the old external update method:
 [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r5
 
 The new internal-AMD rsync/distfile server, issueing
 'emerge -s gentoo-sources' shows:
   sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
   Latest version available: 2.6.12-r4
   Latest version installed: 2.6.12-r4
 
 Is this evidence that the nightly updates, are not working on the
 internal server?

No, it is merely an indication that at some point between the server's sync
and the older sync that -r5 of gentoo sources was released.  My systems, as
of last night around midnight thought only -r4 was available.  Just now I
ran emerge --sync on the server and it now sees that -r5 is available.

It's strictly a timing issue.

 Is there a simple test to determine if the updates are working
 on the rsync and distfiles?

Sure.  New packages are released every day.  I can't remember a single day
in the last month where emerge -uDp reported no packages to update.

So if you run a few days and constantly see emerge -uDp reporting no
packages, there's probably a sync problem.




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[gentoo-user] heavy packet loss problem (ifconfig?)

2005-07-13 Thread José Pedro Saraiva
Hello,
I'm quite desperate and have tried just about anything.
I'll try to explain it...

I connect to the net through eth0 and have a masquerading through eth1
to my other computers, using shorewall.
My server never had any problems of this kind and all was fine until a
couple of days ago. I'm experiencing some heavy packet loss when
pinging different hosts.
I have isolated the problem (at least I think I did) and got to the
conclusion that issuing a simple 'ifconfig eth1 down' and leaving eth0
up, the packet loss vanishes.
Tests were made with all services down (shorewall, sshd, apache2,
mysqld, proftpd, sendmail, ...) and with the network cable unplugged
from eth1 (so no traffic is being generated through eth1 that could
cause packet loss)
Here are the statistics:

- eth1 up -
# ping -c 200 google.com

--- google.com ping statistics ---
200 packets transmitted, 104 received, 48% packet loss, time 208227ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 152.388/229.520/2016.847/279.805 ms, pipe 3

- eth1 down -
# ping -c 200 google.com

--- google.com ping statistics ---
200 packets transmitted, 200 received, 0% packet loss, time 199175ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 147.197/169.978/193.949/8.384 ms

Both network cards are using the same chipset (RLT8139) loaded as a
module in the kernel (2.6.11-hardened-r13).
I have tried to replace the network card (with one also using RLT8139)
and changing it from IRQ but with no effect.
Please help, I've runned out of ideas...

Thanks in advance!
José Pedro

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packet loss unknown issue

2005-07-13 Thread Robert Svoboda
* José Pedro Saraiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 23:30]:
 Hello,

Hi,

 I connect to the net through eth0 and have a masquerading
 through eth1 to my other computers, using shorewall.  

Uh, I'm not sure i understand you.

your localhost eth0 - shorewall - Inet
your localhost eth1 - shorewall - your other machines

Is above right?
What address ranges do you use?

 My server never had any problems of this kind and all was
 fine until a couple of days ago. I'm experiencing some heavy
 packet loss when pinging different hosts.  I have isolated
 the problem (at least I think I did) and got to the
 conclusion that issuing a simple 'ifconfig eth1 down' and
 leaving eth0 up, the packet loss vanishes.  Tests were made
 with all services down (shorewall, sshd, apache2, mysqld,
 proftpd, sendmail, ...)

What about routing? As root run:
$ route

or tracepath?
$ tracepath google.com

Robert
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[gentoo-user] Re: Does (-win32codecs) mean Slots?

2005-07-13 Thread Remy Blank
David Morgan wrote:
 emerge wtf
 wtf sol

Thanks for the tip!

Typically *nix: small program, does only one thing but does it well.
I like the man page.

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[gentoo-user] Backing up /sys...

2005-07-13 Thread Vincent A. Primavera

Hello,
   Is it possible to copy/backup the /sys directory while the system is
live with all filesystems mounted?  I have tried a few methods ie: cp,
cpio, and rsync, all as root.  I am getting various Permission denied and
Invalid argument errors.  Does anybody have any clear answers jump out at
them without me going into greater detail?
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RE: [gentoo-user] heavy packet loss problem (ifconfig?)

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
My immediate guess would be a routing issue.  What's the routing definition
for when eth1 is up vs down?  Issue the 'route' command as root and send us
the details.



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RE: [gentoo-user] Backing up /sys...

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
/sys is a completely virtual filesystem.  Why would you bother to back it
up?  You can't restore it so the backup does you no good at all.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Backing up /sys...

2005-07-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 13 July 2005 17:41, Vincent A. Primavera wrote:

backing up sys?
that is like backing up /proc... there is nopthing interessting, nothing that 
will or should survive a reboot, so why do you want to make a backup?
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting - SOLVED !

2005-07-13 Thread Jarry



In the meantime I'm trying to update my system to 2.6.12-r4
(up to now I used 2.6.11-r3 from 2005.0 universal installation cd)...


Actually, I did not updated the system, but installed once more.
This time as a network installation, with latest portage and
stage1 downloaded from some mirror-server (previously I installed
without network, portage and stage3 from gentoo-2005.0 universal CD).

And (to my surprise!) everything works without a problem. Halleluyah!
And I even used the same kernel-config from 2.6.11-r3 for 2.6.12-r4
(was too lazy to go through the whole make menuconfig again)...

Jarry

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[gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread James
Dave Nebinger dnebinger at joat.com writes:

 
  I recently set up an internal server for rsync and distfile distribution.
  How do I check to ensure that this internal server actually was successful
  at downloading the rsync files and the appropriate distfiles for the other
  sytems?
 
 /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp contains the timestamp for when the sync was
 completed.
 
Ahhh that's it:
# cat /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp
Tue Jul 12 13:06:52 UTC 2005
 # date
Wed Jul 13 12:05:26 UTC 2005

The clock (hw and OS) were off, by about25 minutes but that has 
been correct now. /etc/crontab was set for 1:30 
30 1 * * * root emerge sync

  PROBLEM?
  I manually ran 'emerge -uDp world' today on both a client and the
  sever. The client updated a few files, the server returned nothing to
  update.
  I kept another p4 system using rsync and downloading the distfiles
  separate.
 
 Since the server is the local rsync mirror it must do it's emerge --sync
 first.  After it has completed (note: not during the run), the client(s) can
 emerge --sync.
 
  emerge -uDp world shows this file (among others) on the P4 system using
  the old external update method:
  [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r5
  
  The new internal-AMD rsync/distfile server, issueing
  'emerge -s gentoo-sources' shows:
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
Latest version available: 2.6.12-r4
Latest version installed: 2.6.12-r4
  
  Is this evidence that the nightly updates, are not working on the
  internal server?
 
 No, it is merely an indication that at some point between the server's sync
 and the older sync that -r5 of gentoo sources was released.  My systems, as
 of last night around midnight thought only -r4 was available.  Just now I
 ran emerge --sync on the server and it now sees that -r5 is available.
 
 It's strictly a timing issue.

Well now I'm starting to 'get it'. Before when I ran rsync manually,
it did not update (rsync was launched last night (EST), so
I got some error message about not  being available or something
like that. Now I just ran 'emerge syncc' maually on the  server
machine and it did update the rsync files (portage cache).
On the internal server
emerge -uDp world now does not reveal any new files to update...

 
  Is there a simple test to determine if the updates are working
  on the rsync and distfiles?
 
 Sure.  New packages are released every day.  I can't remember a single day
 in the last month where emerge -uDp reported no packages to update.
 
 So if you run a few days and constantly see emerge -uDp reporting no
 packages, there's probably a sync problem.

Well 2 things.

I'm going to implement your scripts now. And I shall have patiences 
for a few days to see how the updates proceed on the internal server
and the clients using the internal server. Checking against the 
internal clients still using remote servers for rsync and distfile
updates

Thanks,

James






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RE: [gentoo-user] Packet loss unknown issue

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
  What about routing? As root run:
  $ route
 # route
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.0.0 *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00
 eth1
 loopback*   255.0.0.0   U 0  00 lo
 default 195-23-73-156.n 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0

What's the route when eth1 is down?



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Re: [gentoo-user] where is the functionality of etcat

2005-07-13 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:50, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:26:14 +0200

 I haven't seen anyone post this script as yet.  It's by ciaranm and is
 very useful when people ask on irc why a certain package version can't
 be installed on their arch.

 Sample output:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 0 0.67 $ eshowkw

 gnome Keywords for gnome-base/gnome:
 | a a a h i m m p p p p s s s x x x x
 | l m r p a 6 i p p p p 3 h p 8 8 8 8
 | p d m p 6 8 p c c c c 9   a 6 6 6 6
 | h 6   a 4 k s   6 - - 0   r   - - -
 | a 4 4 m o c   f o o
 |   a d b b d
 |   c   s s
 |   o   d d
 |   s

 +
 1.4-r3  |   -   + +
 2.8.2   | + +   + +   + +   + +
 2.8.3-r1| ~ +   + +   ~ +   + +
 2.10|   ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
 2.10-r1 | + +   + ~ + ~ + +
 2.10.1_pre0 |   ~   ~ ~ ~ ~

 Hope this is helpful to someone ;)

nice!
don't think it is really useful for me, I have two archs (amd64 and x86) but 
have good access to both machines. if you maintain more archs than this can 
be very usefull. Is this in some (dev-)package? maybe something for 
gentoolkit??

Rudmer
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo web development tool

2005-07-13 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, simply change wrote:

 what is the gentoo official web site WEB DEVELOPMENT TOOL? (like screem, nvu
 or what?)

I dont know if there is an official tool - speaking from experience many
designers use whatever they feel comfortable with.

There is a new design for the site currently in progress, designed by
Aaron Shi (aaronshi.com). Sven Vermeulen is working on building the new
design. You might want to talk to those guys and/or look at the re-design
roadmap site at http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/www-redesign/roadmap.html


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Re: [gentoo-user] fbsplash

2005-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez
Did you created /dev/tty1? From the ebuild:

 * It appears that the /dev/tty1 character device doesn't exist on
 * the root filesystem. This will prevent the silent mode from working
 * properly. You can fix the problem by doing:
 *   mount --bind / /lib/splash/tmp
 *   mknod /lib/splash/tmp/dev/tty1 c 4 1
 *   umount /lib/splash/tmp

That did the trick for me.

Canek

On 7/10/05, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 10 July 2005 21:07, Manuel McLure wrote:
  Uwe Thiem wrote:
   Still no joy. Same behaviour as before. :-(
  
   Actually, I wouldn't give a rat's ass for it but this is for a customer,
   and looks are important.
 
  Did you update the /usr/src/linux symlink to point to
  linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4? The splashutils ebuild uses that to figure out
  what kernel to build against.
 
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  ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
  no man may kill a cat.   -- H.P. Lovecraft
 
 Yes, of course I did.
 
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[gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey

I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual

genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all

produced unbootable system :(
Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's 
what I have in grub.conf:

title  Gentoo linux (updated)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 
real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount
 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n


I've tried to follow those:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ

But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too 
far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet?

Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't 
think it's exact output):

-install: applet not found
/init: 41: ln: not found
/init: 45: cat: not found
...
 Loading modules
/init: 172: touch: not found
/init: 172: cat: not found
/init: 172: sed: not found
...
 Activating udev
/init: 178: mkdir: not found
/sbin/udevstart: not found
-=*something about not being able to mount root partition*=-
(boot)::

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

 I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual

 genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all


Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using genkernel)?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, James wrote:

 Ahhh that's it:
 # cat /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp
 Tue Jul 12 13:06:52 UTC 2005
  # date
 Wed Jul 13 12:05:26 UTC 2005

On my machines, the master rsync server does a sync at 3am.
The rest of the machines sync with the master server at 4am.

This way there's no timing problems.

 The clock (hw and OS) were off, by about25 minutes but that has
 been correct now. /etc/crontab was set for 1:30

I run ntpd on ALL my machines (If you want to get fancy, you could setup
your rsync server to also be a local NTP master server and have the other
machines sync their clocks with this server too - makes even more sense
if you use NFS).


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Re: [gentoo-user] ogle and mplayer

2005-07-13 Thread Canek Peláez
On 7/13/05, luis jure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 el Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:19:06 -0500
 Canek Peláez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  Anyway, I'm pretty sure ogle is unsupported.
 
 is it? i emerged it normally, it wasn't masked or anything. it also used to
 work on my previous linux installation.

My bad; I was meaning unmantained. Go to the homepage; last version
is from November 2003.

 anyway, i'm using xine now, it's the only dvd player i tried so far that
 works well.

Xine is OK; Totem it's getting there.
 
 ¿cómo anda el méxico querido?

quitando al tarado que tenemos como presidente, sobreviviendo. ¿cómo va Uruguay?
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Zac Medico
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual
 
 genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all
 
 produced unbootable system :(
 Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's 
 what I have in grub.conf:
 
 title  Gentoo linux (updated)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 
 real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount
  initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n
 
 
 I've tried to follow those:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
 http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
 http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ
 
 But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too 
 far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet?
 
 Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't 
 think it's exact output):
 
 -install: applet not found
 /init: 41: ln: not found
 /init: 45: cat: not found
 ...
 
Loading modules
 
 /init: 172: touch: not found
 /init: 172: cat: not found
 /init: 172: sed: not found
 ...
 
Activating udev
 
 /init: 178: mkdir: not found
 /sbin/udevstart: not found
 -=*something about not being able to mount root partition*=-
 (boot)::
 

FOr the initrd/initramfs in  =genkernel-3.2 you need CONFIG_FEATURE_INSTALLER 
enabled in the busybox config.  You'll have to build a new busybox unless you 
want to use an older version of genkernel.

For most people the initrd isn't required anyways.  Are you just using it for 
splash?  I think you can bypass the initrd in that case:

root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n 
root=/dev/hda11 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Mike Williams wrote:

On Wednesday 13 July 2005 15:09, Jarry wrote:
  

It seems (or at least it is discussed there) that this (udev does not
create /dev/md* at startup) is some kernel-bug! If some of our kernel
developers is watching this list, could he confirm or refuse it?
Can I somehow get rid of udev, when it is causing problems to me?



http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/29788

  


Just to expand a bit on the linked thread:

Gentoo now has support for creating the device nodes at boot time, in
the stable baselayout, which should be 1.11.12-r4 at this point.

To enable it, you need:

1. A proper /etc/raidtab or /etc/mdadm.conf (mdadm.conf preferred)
2. The mdadm tools emerged.
3. Add md to RC_VOLUME_ORDER in /etc/conf.d/rc.

The above should trigger then execution of
/lib/rcscripts/addons/raid-start.sh during startup which will create the
device nodes for you.

I did not know any of this before I posted regarding the RAID device
nodes in the linked thread...

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Jarry wrote:

 In the maintenance mode, does /sys/block/md0/* exist?  What does cat
 /proc/mdstat report?



Actually, if the kernel autodetection runs at boot time, /proc/mdstat
should show the devices regardless of whether the device nodes exist or
notso something is a bit strange with your kernel configuration.

Either you are missing a RAID driver in the kernel, or a necessary disk
driver.  Take a careful look at what grep =m /usr/src/linux/.config
reports...something in there is almost certainly the problem!

You can also follow my notes about creating an mdadm.conf file in
another message (sorry for the multiple replies!).

 It seems (or at least it is discussed there) that this (udev does not
 create /dev/md* at startup) is some kernel-bug! If some of our kernel
 developers is watching this list, could he confirm or refuse it?


I don't know if I would call it a kernel bug.  It is mostly just
functionality that isn't clear where it belongs, and there is no obvious
right thing to do.  The autodetection feature of the MD driver came from
a different era of kernel development, and would almost certainly not be
accepted today.


 Can I somehow get rid of udev, when it is causing problems to me?


Well, you can always revert back to static device nodes.  See the
RC_DEVICES entry in /etc/conf.d/rc.  If you set this, you will need to
run a bunch of /sbin/MAKEDEV commands to get the static nodes created.

If you do decide to go this route, I encourage you to consider it a
temporary solution until you get the system up and running. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with raid1: error while booting - SOLVED !

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
And this will teach me to scan all messages in a thread before I start
replying!!!

Glad you got it working.  If the kernel config is truly the same, then I
suspect you got an updated version of baselayout or udev that fixed it.

-Richard

Jarry wrote:


 In the meantime I'm trying to update my system to 2.6.12-r4
 (up to now I used 2.6.11-r3 from 2005.0 universal installation cd)...


 Actually, I did not updated the system, but installed once more.
 This time as a network installation, with latest portage and
 stage1 downloaded from some mirror-server (previously I installed
 without network, portage and stage3 from gentoo-2005.0 universal CD).

 And (to my surprise!) everything works without a problem. Halleluyah!
 And I even used the same kernel-config from 2.6.11-r3 for 2.6.12-r4
 (was too lazy to go through the whole make menuconfig again)...

 Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Ian K wrote:

Heres the bad news.. I turned my laptop on today, and the fans didn't
come on like
they did before, and within five minutes and 1 compile, the laptop was off.

  


Ok, so you defintely have some kind of problem with your fans.  Did you
follow the cleaning instructions that others provided?  Maybe they are
just too gummed up to spin up reliably?

Also, does anyone else here have the same model laptop that can confirm
that the ACPI stuff looks right??  I mean, not even a thermal sensor??
That seems weird!

Some of the other things that I have read or can think of that might
effect the fans would be:

1. In dual boot system with Windows, warm or cold restarts from Windows
to Linux can affect whether the fans spin up.

2. Firmware (BIOS) updates.  (See Sager 9880 and 9860 and stuck fans!!)

3. Whether you are running on AC or battery.


I get:

CONFIG_ACPI=y
  


Looks sane to me


Jul 12 16:45:03 Avalon ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (off-line)
Jul 12 16:45:03 Avalon ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
  


Do you get better results if you start with the AC power connected? 
What if you do a truly cold restart? (remove the battery, unplug then
connect the AC, and then power up).

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
  I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual
 
  genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all

 Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using
 genkernel)?

Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel 
does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for 
devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).



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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual

genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all

produced unbootable system :(
Symptoms point most probably to udev being used by default etc. Here's 
what I have in grub.conf:

title  Gentoo linux (updated)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n root=/dev/ram0 
real_root=/dev/hda11 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
splash=verbose gentoo=nodevfs udev devfs=nomount
 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4n


I've tried to follow those:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Migrate_to_UDEV
http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ

But it doesn't look like it applies to my case or maybe I jumped too 
far ahead and udev is not fully supported yet?

  


Well, udev is most definitly supported, since as of 2.6.12 devfs has
been officially removed from the kernel.  Ok, technically only the
config option was removed, but you can expect that 2.6.13 will be
released without any devfs at all.

Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't 
think it's exact output):

-install: applet not found
/init: 41: ln: not found
/init: 45: cat: not found
  


It looks to me like your /initramfs is completely screwed.  Whatever
created that missed copying a bunch of necessary utilities (or more
likely, a dependant library) to the /initramfs.  The /init messages
you see are almost certainly from the /init script in the initramfs. 
Every line indicates it went to run a command, and either the command or
a library wasn't found.

I'm with Aj here...you need to skip genkernel and configure a kernel
from scratch.  Compile everything you need to boot (disk drivers, root
filesystem driver, etc) into the kernel statically (not as a module!). 
Then get rid of the initrd line in grub, lose the real_root=, init=,
splash=, gentoo=, and devfs= options on the kernel command line, and
change the root= option to root=/dev/hda11.

What a freakin' mess!

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Rumen Yotov
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

On July 13, 2005 11:43 am, A. Khattri wrote:
  

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:


I recently updated portage tree  kernel and using usual

genkernel --menuconfig --save-config all
  

Have you tried building a kernel manually (i.e. without using
genkernel)?



Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel 
does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for 
devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).

  

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Hi,
Have used both genkernel and manual-kernel-config, quite no problems
with both (except genkernel on hardened ;)
Think that you must manually give the options you want, ex.genkernel
--menuconfig --udev --install --bootsplash all
The manual one is easier, less options ;) see install guide, kernel
compilation part.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOfficeWriter: wee small fonts

2005-07-13 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi Ian,


 Maybe the update changed some things in X.org's
 configuration file?

the file is exact the same as before, I copied it manually.

But anyway, thanks a lot for the idea!


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Zac Medico
Richard Fish wrote:
 
Here's what I get booting (I'm writing it from memory mostly so don't 
think it's exact output):

-install: applet not found
/init: 41: ln: not found
/init: 45: cat: not found
 

 
 
 It looks to me like your /initramfs is completely screwed.  Whatever
 created that missed copying a bunch of necessary utilities (or more
 likely, a dependant library) to the /initramfs.  The /init messages
 you see are almost certainly from the /init script in the initramfs. 
 Every line indicates it went to run a command, and either the command or
 a library wasn't found.
 

It's not as bad as it looks.  I had the same problem.  You simply need to 
enable CONFIG_FEATURE_INSTALLER in the busybox config.  Then you can do 
busybox --install and it automatically creates hardlinks for all the enabled 
applets.

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RE: [gentoo-user] OpenOfficeWriter: wee small fonts

2005-07-13 Thread Dave Nebinger
Missed the original post but it sounds similar to what I had run into awhile
back.

Sorry I don't remember what I did exactly but the problem was basically with
the fonts, not OO in particular.

Now I don't remember exactly but re-emerging the font packages (freetype
specifically and possibly fontconfig) had something to do with it.  Possibly
the re-emerge needed to be followed by a re-emerge of OO.

Sorry I don't remember the details but I do remember that was the basic gist
of the issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:

 Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel
 does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for
 devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).

True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Zac Medico
A. Khattri wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 
 
Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel
does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for
devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).
 
 
 True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away
 when they did a manual kernel build instead.
 
 

In this case the problem is in the initrd so I can guarantee he won't have the 
same problem if he doesn't use root=/dev/ram0 with a broken initrd ;-).

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[gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration

2005-07-13 Thread James
A. Khattri ajai at bway.net writes:

 
 On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, James wrote:
 
  Ahhh that's it:
  # cat /usr/portage/metadata/timestamp
  Tue Jul 12 13:06:52 UTC 2005
   # date
  Wed Jul 13 12:05:26 UTC 2005
 
 On my machines, the master rsync server does a sync at 3am.
 The rest of the machines sync with the master server at 4am.
 
 This way there's no timing problems.
 
The timing problems have been eliminated. All dates and times
are  within a few second of each other now.
System/OS clocks have all been sync to cell phone time.
Bios/Hardware clocks are now sync'd to the System/OS clocks.

  The clock (hw and OS) were off, by about25 minutes but that has
  been correct now. /etc/crontab was set for 1:30

 I run ntpd on ALL my machines (If you want to get fancy, you could setup
 your rsync server to also be a local NTP master server and have the other
 machines sync their clocks with this server too - makes even more sense
 if you use NFS).

I don't want to run NTP right now, but later I will.
I do not use NFS, as each system has plenty of disk space.
I'm not a big fan of NFS YMMV.


Thanks for the ideas, although these are not the source of
my problems. I'm implementing Dave's scripts tonight. Then
I'll see what happens

I think the inherent entropy associated with patience, is my greatest
source of errors, presently... If I'm wrong, we'll adjust things
externally, and then continue the epic battle with entropy.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hanging out with fbsplash

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Zac Medico wrote:

Richard Fish wrote:
  

Greetings list,

I have spent most of my weekend trying to get fbsplash running on my
laptop.  I've managed to resolve most of the issues (getting the
initramfs to be recognized, starting up RAID, LVM, and encryption from
the initramfs, etc).  The problem I have now is that my system hangs in
the rc-scripts if I give a splash= option on the kernel command line. 
After adding a lot of 'echo' statements to the scripts, and a few
hundred reboots, I have narrowed it down the following command:



Hi Richard,

I tried but could not reproduce it.

  


Hi Zac,

I know this is a couple of weeks old, but I just wanted to thank you for
trying it.  The problem turned out to be a kernel bug.  In case you are
curious:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4857



I suggest that you rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_FB_SPLASH=n ;-).
  


So, for the record, I now have a beautiful splash screen appearing about
1 second after grub finishes loading my kernel image (which, BTW, is now
some 5MB in size!!).  I had to do a lot more work to get reliable
flipping to verbose mode to prompt for my password for my
root-on-loop-AES setup, followed by a flip back to silent mode, but it
really is beautiful to look at.

I need to write up some howto's in the next week or so, because using an
initramfs works much better than an initrd for encrypted root.

Thanks again,

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Richard Fish
Zac Medico wrote:

A. Khattri wrote:
  

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:




Nope... might try it as well but my understanding that all genkernel
does is automates compilation/installation and makes sure options for
devfs or udev are on (depending on --[no]udev --[no]devfs flags).
  

True, but a lot of people have had problems with genkernel that went away
when they did a manual kernel build instead.





In this case the problem is in the initrd so I can guarantee he won't have the 
same problem if he doesn't use root=/dev/ram0 with a broken initrd ;-).

  


Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line from
grub if you want to eliminate it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOfficeWriter: wee small fonts

2005-07-13 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi Dave,


 Sorry I don't remember the details but I do remember that
 was the basic gist of the issue.

thanks for the hint, will try it out on weekend (reemerging 
OOo will take a while, I guess ;-).


Thanks  best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote:
 Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
 initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line
 from grub if you want to eliminate it.

So if I understand correctly something like:

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11 
init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose

should produce desired results (i.e. bootable system)?
If yes - I've got quite a few error messages about missing symbols in 
kernel modules on boot :( But I've tries so many combinations already 
that it could've been attributed to other changes I've made. So I'll 
try it again and come back if problem persists (or if you'll tell me 
my assumptions are wrong).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hanging out with fbsplash

2005-07-13 Thread John J. Foster
On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 10:44:52PM +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 I need to write up some howto's in the next week or so, because using an
 initramfs works much better than an initrd for encrypted root.
 
Please, please do!

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[gentoo-user] Can't mount a fat32 partition

2005-07-13 Thread aabb
Hi,

Here's a strange one...

I use 2 partitions for Windows 98, hda1 and hda5. I set both up as type
c (fat32 LBA) during my gentoo installation, using fdisk. The entries
in /etc/fstab are almost identical:

/dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0
/dev/hda5/mnt/win_dvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0

Yet hda1 mounts with no problems, whereas hda5 doesn't. If I execute
mount /mnt/win_d I get the error:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
   or too many mounted file systems

I tried various combinations (such as mount -t vfat /dev/hda5
/mnt/win_d) and always get the same error. The only differences between
the 2 partitions that I can think of are:

(a) hda1 is primary whereas hda5 is logical
(b) hda5 is larger than hda1 (20 Gb and 15 Gb, respectively)
(c) hda1 is set as the boot partition in fdisk.

If I type the above error in Google I get many hits, but nothing helped.
Any ideas?

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount a fat32 partition

2005-07-13 Thread Colin

aabb wrote:


Hi,

Here's a strange one...

I use 2 partitions for Windows 98, hda1 and hda5. I set both up as type
c (fat32 LBA) during my gentoo installation, using fdisk. The entries
in /etc/fstab are almost identical:

/dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0
/dev/hda5/mnt/win_dvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0

Any of the mask entries correspond to octal permission;  therefore, they 
need to be three-digit numbers.  I recommend 022 (rwxr-xr-x), but I 
assume you want 000 (rwxrwxrwx).  Don't forget to set uid and gid or 
else only root will have access to the files!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Packet loss unknown issue

2005-07-13 Thread Petr Kocmid
On Wednesday 13 of July 2005 18:07, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:

 iface_eth1=192.168.0.254 netmask 255.255.0.0

Your modem/router which is 192.168.1.254 on eth0 fits the netmask of the eth1 
network. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount a fat32 partition

2005-07-13 Thread Wade Brown
That doesn't seem to address the issue as mounting by hand still spits
out errors relative to partition problems.  What's the output of
fdisk -l /dev/hda?

On 7/13/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 aabb wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Here's a strange one...
 
 I use 2 partitions for Windows 98, hda1 and hda5. I set both up as type
 c (fat32 LBA) during my gentoo installation, using fdisk. The entries
 in /etc/fstab are almost identical:
 
 /dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0
 /dev/hda5/mnt/win_dvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0
 
 Any of the mask entries correspond to octal permission;  therefore, they
 need to be three-digit numbers.  I recommend 022 (rwxr-xr-x), but I
 assume you want 000 (rwxrwxrwx).  Don't forget to set uid and gid or
 else only root will have access to the files!
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't mount a fat32 partition

2005-07-13 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:39:38 -0400 Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 aabb wrote:
 Here's a strange one...
 
 I use 2 partitions for Windows 98, hda1 and hda5. I set both up as
 type c (fat32 LBA) during my gentoo installation, using fdisk. The
 entries in /etc/fstab are almost identical:
 
 /dev/hda1/mnt/win_cvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0
 /dev/hda5/mnt/win_dvfatumask=0,noexec  0 0

What's the output of fdisk -l /dev/hda?
BTW, I use noauto,noexec,user,fmask=0133 as options in fstab for vfat
partitions.

 Any of the mask entries correspond to octal permission;  therefore,
 they  need to be three-digit numbers.  I recommend 022 (rwxr-xr-x),
 but I  assume you want 000 (rwxrwxrwx).  Don't forget to set uid and
 gid or  else only root will have access to the files!

I set file mask to fmask=0133 on vfat partitions, because files on
windows partitions don't need the executable bit. It only annoys me when
Midnight Commander tries to execute them after I press ENTER.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't login using KDM

2005-07-13 Thread Sean Higgins

Did you recently update your kernel?  There is a problem with 
gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4.  There is a bug in iptables that causes problems 
with KDE logins.  If you stop iptables, your login will work.

If you upgrade to gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r5, the problem will be solved.

  Sean

On Tuesday 12 July 2005 10:46 am, Yuval Scharf wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm using KDE 3.4.
 Since few days ago I can't login using KDM.
 The login process can't pass the initializing peripherals stage.
 I can see that there are two processes running kded (one of the is the
 father of the other) which I can't kill.
 After rebooting the machine I can login once and then the probelm returns.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Yuval Scharf

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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote:
  Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
  initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line
  from grub if you want to eliminate it.

 So if I understand correctly something like:

 title  Gentoo linux (update)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11
 init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose

finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination:

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 
video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose


But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after 
login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it 
happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms 
like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got 
so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going 
on I should be aware of?


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[gentoo-user] perl 5.8.6 install/update - @INC not working, solved?

2005-07-13 Thread michael higgins
Hello list.

I just decided to rebuild perl as I recently noticed that perl wasn't working 
for me anymore. When I just happened to need to use it, of course.

As an aside, if perhaps relevant, I had a couple of problems with failed 
compiles. As is usually is the fix for this machine, I opened the case, and the 
compile finished. New perl installed, no big deal. 

And then an emerge message indicated I should complete the update via 
perl-cleaner. Ran perl-cleaner.

However, still, trying to run even perl -V yields:

Can't locate Config.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/local/lib/site_perl 
.).
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.

. . .

I finally noticed that the @INC doesn't include the new perl folder for 5.8.6. 
Ah.

Looking into it, it would seem that 'which perl' gives /usr/local/bin/perl. 
This is, apparently, not a link. It is, however the perl that is broken... but 

ls -l /usr/bin/perl
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 9 Jul 13 16:46 /usr/bin/perl - perl5.8.6

and 

/usr/bin/perl -V

Does work... as expected. So, what happened? And, how do I fix it?

 # cd /usr/local/bin
 bin # mv perl perl5.8.5

Okay. That wasn't so good. I got a failed reference to /usr/local/bin/perl from 
bash, so I tried:

# cp /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/perl

And that seems to work. But, my question is, still, why was there another perl 
in /usr/local/bin... Could be it got promoted in my path somehow? 

And why would bash still look for /usr/local/bin/perl when I run a script, when 
/usr/bin has a perl that is working (and is the one that's #!referenced at the 
top of my script anyway)?

TIA for any enlightenment in this area. '-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: My laptop is freaking me out.

2005-07-13 Thread Ian K
Richard Fish wrote:

Ian K wrote:

  

Heres the bad news.. I turned my laptop on today, and the fans didn't
come on like
they did before, and within five minutes and 1 compile, the laptop was off.

 




Ok, so you defintely have some kind of problem with your fans.  Did you
follow the cleaning instructions that others provided?  Maybe they are
just too gummed up to spin up reliably?
  

The strange thing is though, they do work fine under Windows.
Im just Guessing that Linux cant activate them.

Also, does anyone else here have the same model laptop that can confirm
that the ACPI stuff looks right??  I mean, not even a thermal sensor??
That seems weird!

Some of the other things that I have read or can think of that might
effect the fans would be:

1. In dual boot system with Windows, warm or cold restarts from Windows
to Linux can affect whether the fans spin up.
  

What would you recommend along those lines?

2. Firmware (BIOS) updates.  (See Sager 9880 and 9860 and stuck fans!!)
  

I tried that, the BIOS came updated to the most recent version.
I should point out its a Phoenix BIOS too, so the toshiba-utils does
not work on my system.

3. Whether you are running on AC or battery.
  

Always AC, I never run off of a battery if I can help it.


  

I get:

CONFIG_ACPI=y
 




Looks sane to me


  

Jul 12 16:45:03 Avalon ACPI: AC Adapter [ACAD] (off-line)
Jul 12 16:45:03 Avalon ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present)
 




Do you get better results if you start with the AC power connected? 
  

The strange thing is, it was connected. That was a detection error
in th log.

What if you do a truly cold restart? (remove the battery, unplug then
connect the AC, and then power up).
  

I will try that.

On the topic of ACPI, I found this post on LinuxQuestions. I post as omega21
there. The thread is in the SuSe Forum, but I doubt it matters too much.
What do you make of it?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=threadid=288588

As well, someone else on LQ advised trying APM, instead of ACPI(?). Im not
sure if its a good idea or not.

Lastly, I found another project that packs Toshiba features into the kernel.
Im not sure if I should try it though.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/omke/

Cheers,
Ian

PS I hope we can solve this. I forgot how icky Windows XP is. ;)

-Richard

  


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Re: [gentoo-user] udev recent genkernel + gentoo-sources

2005-07-13 Thread Zac Medico
Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 On July 13, 2005 03:11 pm, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote:
 
On July 13, 2005 02:47 pm, Richard Fish wrote:

Not quite, its an initramfs.  Slightly different rules apply for
initramfs vs initrd, so you also have to remove the initrd line
from grub if you want to eliminate it.

So if I understand correctly something like:

title  Gentoo linux (update)
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda11
init=/linuxrc video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose
 
 
 finally I've got to optimum (in my opinion) combination:
 
 title  Gentoo linux (update)
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r4 real_root=/dev/hda11 
 video=vesafb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose
 
 
 But I've got new problem - for some reason KDE (3.4.1) now hangs after 
 login doing initialize peripherals or something like that... and it 
 happens only when I switch to 2.6.12, weird... anybody seen symptoms 
 like that? First time since I've switched to 2.6.x kernels I've got 
 so many issues with simple kernel upgrade, is there something going 
 on I should be aware of?
 
 

I heard there was a problem like that with gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r4 and 
iptables: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userm=112129686806476

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hanging out with fbsplash

2005-07-13 Thread Zac Medico
Richard Fish wrote:
 
 Hi Zac,
 
 I know this is a couple of weeks old, but I just wanted to thank you for
 trying it.  The problem turned out to be a kernel bug.  In case you are
 curious:
 
 http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4857
 
 

Yes, that's interesting.  Thanks

 
I suggest that you rebuild the kernel with CONFIG_FB_SPLASH=n ;-).
 

 
 
 So, for the record, I now have a beautiful splash screen appearing about
 1 second after grub finishes loading my kernel image (which, BTW, is now
 some 5MB in size!!).  I had to do a lot more work to get reliable
 flipping to verbose mode to prompt for my password for my
 root-on-loop-AES setup, followed by a flip back to silent mode, but it
 really is beautiful to look at.
 
 I need to write up some howto's in the next week or so, because using an
 initramfs works much better than an initrd for encrypted root.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 -Richard
 

That sounds nice.  Do you use busybox for the root-on-loop-AES setup?  What is 
better about initramfs?  Do you have to compile the cpio archive into the 
kernel or is it just as good when you load it like an initrd?  I'm looking 
forward to the howto ;-).

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[gentoo-user] Seeking recommdations for multi-card reader.

2005-07-13 Thread John J. Foster
Good evening all. My San Disk ImageMate dual reader said goodbye to our
family today. She should have left a few months ago.

So, what I'm searching for is a replacement reader. I saw some good
reviews for ImageMate® 8-in-1 Reader/Writer. I don't really need all
eight, but so what. What I'd really like, though, is the ability plug
and unplug cards while the reader remains attached via usb2 or firewire.
My old San Disk gave me problems for years. Sometimes no connection.
Sometimes inserted card could be any of sdb[1-15]. Udev helped with this
a little, but basically the reader was a POS (for you wtf users). I'm
looking for something that will react the same every time.

Any recommendations?

Boy - I just read this over, and the fact that I've been up close to 30
hours has severely affected my grammar. Apologies.

Thanks,
John
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Re: [gentoo-user] Seeking recommdations for multi-card reader.

2005-07-13 Thread Colin

John J. Foster wrote:


Good evening all. My San Disk ImageMate dual reader said goodbye to our
family today. She should have left a few months ago.

So, what I'm searching for is a replacement reader. I saw some good
reviews for ImageMate® 8-in-1 Reader/Writer. I don't really need all
eight, but so what. What I'd really like, though, is the ability plug
and unplug cards while the reader remains attached via usb2 or firewire.
My old San Disk gave me problems for years. Sometimes no connection.
Sometimes inserted card could be any of sdb[1-15]. Udev helped with this
a little, but basically the reader was a POS (for you wtf users). I'm
looking for something that will react the same every time.

Any recommendations?

I've got an AFT PRO-9.  It's a 9-in-1 connects via USB 2.0 
internally/externally and has Secure Digital, Multimedia Card, 
SmartMedia, xDigital, Memory Stick, Memory Stick Pro, CompactFlash, 
MicroDrive and a 4-pin FireWire 400 port (pass-through, you need a 
FireWire port somewhere on your computer).


I've only tested it with an SD card, and it seems to work perfectly.

To use this, you need to compile in SCSI support (the same you need for 
USB Mass Storage) and make sure you select the Probe all LUN's option.


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[gentoo-user] strange /init kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r5 boot problems

2005-07-13 Thread Iain Buchanan
I just compiled kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r5 almost exactly the same way I've
compiled every other kernel, but this one won't boot!

I used genkernel as so:
sudo genkernel --no-menuconfig --save-config --no-bootsplash --gensplash
--gensplash=emergence --install
--kernel-config=/home/iain/configs/2.6.12-gr5-2005-07-14 --makeopts=-j3
--mountboot --bootloader=grub all

which is the same as I used for 2.6.12-gentoo and 2.6.11-gentoo-r11
(etc) and they worked fine.

The only difference is I removed --udev from the genkernel options
because genkernel told me its specified by default.


The kernel and initrd files are named differently:
kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r5
initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.12-gentoo-r5

as opposed to
kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r11

Grub loads the initrd ok, but somewhere in the boot process, this
happens (with lots more /init lines where I've placed 'etc'):

...
ACPI wakeup devices:
 LID PBTN PCIO USB1 USB2 USB4 USB3 MODM PCIE
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S4bios S5)
Freeing unused kernel memory: 228k freed

all ok up to here, but then:

-install: applet not found
/init: 41: In: not found
/init: 45: cat: not found
/init: 150: sed: not found
 Loading modules
/init: 172: touch: not found
/init: 172: cat: not found
...
etc!
...
 Activating udev
/init: 178: mkdir: not found
/init: 178: /sbin/udevstart: not found
/init: 178: In: not found
...
etc!
...
[: /dev/md: unknown operand
/init: 187: mkdir: not found
 Determining root device...
!! The root block device is unspecified or not detected.
  Please specify a device to boot, or shell for a shell...
boot() :: 

(this is typed from a photo, so EOE !!)

At this stage, I can type shell, but I don't get any commands.  When I
try to use tab completion, I see some strange directory names (sorry
can't remember exactly).

I thought maybe for some reason I didn't have the right filesystem
modules compiled in, but they're certainly there:

CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y
and so on, but anyway, I haven't changed this from 2.6.11.

So, any ideas on what's going on? Something udev related?  google only
returned the usual init not found, MARC showed nothing and I can't
connect to gmane, anyone know whats going on there?

Many TIA!
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[gentoo-user] multiband audio equalizer ?

2005-07-13 Thread James
Hello,

I have basic audio working via alsa on several systems.
What do folks use as graphical band equlizer to
increase of decrease the frequency output to the 
speakers?

I found lots of apps using hte work mixer, but nothing
seems like what I want. Something graphical that 
is an 11 band or more audio equlizer with slide controls
for each band

surely it exists, and I've just missed it?


James

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[gentoo-user] Re: GPRS - Anyone aware of any packages which do this?

2005-07-13 Thread James
Michael Haan michael.haan at gmail.com writes:


 I guess what I'm trying to figure out is what exists either in
 gentoo-space specifically, or linux-space generally (in that order)
 for working with GPRS.

GSM-GPRS is virtually a TCP/IP highway. All you need is ppp or TCP/IP
on top of it. If you get service from T mobile (or whoever) and you
tell them you want to use it for Internet access, they'll sell you cables
that plug into your usb/serial/zigbee/bluetooth/pccard or irda port. I'm pretty
sure it's just ppp over a physical connection with GSM-GPRS. 

Not positive though...
If the vendor give you crap that only MS/Apple work, just sniff 
the connection.



emerge -s gsm reveals:

 app-mobilephone/gsmlib
  Latest version available: 1.11_pre030826
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 465 kB
  Homepage:http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/
  Description: Library and Applications to access GSM mobile phones
  License: LGPL-2

*  media-sound/gsm
  Latest version available: 1.0.10
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of downloaded files: 64 kB
  Homepage:http://kbs.cs.tu-berlin.de/~jutta/toast.html
  Description: Lossy speech compression library and tool.
  License: OSI-Approved


Googling for 'GPRS linux' produces a wealth of useful information.

http://www.developertutorials.com/tutorials/wireless-technology/
linux-wireless-networking-050504/page4.html

HTH

James





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