Or maybe the build system is stable enough for general use. If someone
can share some experience with the source build, I'd like to hear about it.
The build system of the source build, of course.
Well, it works, and my impression is that it's a bit faster than
icedtea-6 (the build system, I
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 11, 2011 5:17 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
(i) What is icedtea-web?
If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s
output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point
right at the start of the page that icedtea-web is mostly Java Web
Anyone successful in using vimmanpager as MANPAGER?
I keep getting ANSI control char gobbledegook in man man if I use
the provided vimmanpager script (USE=vimpager emerge
app-editors/vim)
However, I tried Rafael Kitover's vimpager replacement from here:
https://github.com/rkitover/vimpager
...
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:00:51AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
Well, while Willie picks himself up after being slammed like this (Had
bad day, Alan?), I might add that the only reason why portage wants to
emerge icedtea and icedtea-bin is that apparently virtual/jre:1.7 has
been keyworded.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 17:26, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
Anyone successful in using vimmanpager as MANPAGER?
I keep getting ANSI control char gobbledegook in man man if I use
the provided vimmanpager script (USE=vimpager emerge
app-editors/vim)
However, I tried Rafael Kitover's
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
(i) What is icedtea-web?
If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s
output you posted, you would have seen in the very first
Dale wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux
on
my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I
don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with
a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a easy
On Tue, November 8, 2011 10:33 am, Dale wrote:
J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Mon, November 7, 2011 1:32 pm, Dale wrote:
All this from a raccoon knocking out power. Pesky critter.
Raccoons are doing some behaviour studies in your area, didn't you get
the
memo? :)
--
Joost
The only report that
J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Tue, November 8, 2011 10:33 am, Dale wrote:
The only report that raccoon will give is a bright flash of light.
Shorting out 250,000 volts sort of puts a period on the end of the
briefest report there has ever been. Those lines are the TVA lines that
come from a few
Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
So, what is a easy to install distro that has
KDE4, Seamonkey, gtkam, GIMP and such? I want something easy
Well, surely Kubuntu would be a nice choice, but can I suggest
OpenSuse? I installed it something like two years ago (I was curious)
and I liked it. It has a
get your disk out and mount it on a kernel which config support mac fs may
be work .
在 2011-11-11 凌晨3:25， fe...@crowfix.com写道：
I have a 5 year old Mac OS X laptop which died last night -- no lights,
nothing, as if the battery
and AC line were disconnected. There's nothing on it which is a
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Now to teach him how to update the thing.
Dale
:-) :-)
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it
was bad or didn't
Mark Knecht wrote:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Now to teach him how to update the thing.
Dale
:-) :-)
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
I have noticed the same points you found. I set up the user cutie during
the install. I logged in as cutie then did sudo su -. That got me to root
user. Yeppie ! Then I did passwd and typed in a root password. After
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it
was bad or didn't work, but that the management of it seemed so
different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't want to deal
with learning it.
Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It wasn't that it
was bad or didn't work, but that the management of it seemed so
different from any distro I'd run before that I didn't want to
Hi,
this is actually not problem but rather a matter of customs:
My new fresh installed system shows root-fs in df as
/dev/root, not actuall device (in my case /dev/md2).
I think I coud get used to it, but some software still needs
/dev/md2 (i.e. lilo), other does not find /dev/md2 anymore
and
A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the
data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a
push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup
server. Public SSH keys for the 3 machines are stored on the backup
server and restricted to the
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from
On Nov 12, 2011 12:58 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the
data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a
push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup
server. Public SSH keys for the
[snip]
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from the backup server to another machine, but if the backups
are
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from
A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the
data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a
push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup
server. Public SSH keys for the 3 machines are stored on the backup
server and restricted to
On Nov 12, 2011 1:39 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the
data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a
push-style layout where the 3 machines push their data to the backup
server. Public SSH keys for
Am 11.11.2011 11:16, schrieb Willie Wong:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:01:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
(i) What is icedtea-web?
If you had actually clicked on the homepage link in the emerge -s
output you posted, you would have seen in the very first bullet point
right at the start of the
Am 11.11.2011 19:56, schrieb Pandu Poluan:
On Nov 12, 2011 1:39 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com
mailto:emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
A little while ago I set up an automated backup system to back up the
data from 3 machines to a backup server. I decided to use a
push-style layout where
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:54 +0100
Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend
running Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could. It
wasn't that it was bad or didn't work, but that the management of
it seemed
On Friday 11 Nov 2011 07:37:56 J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Thu, November 10, 2011 8:03 pm, Dale wrote:
SNIPPED
Any tips or tricks on Kubuntu anyone? Sort of a basic 'this is how you
update/install something for idiots' type thing. lol
I think Sabayon would be a better option, but if you
Then you must be using a single-user machine. Like your own laptop or
desktop.
sudo is absolutely necessary on any multi-user machine unless you like
security holes.
Instead of bashing sudo, it's better to find out what problem it is
designed to solve, then determine if you have that
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 11 Nov 2011 07:37:56 J. Roeleveld wrote:
On Thu, November 10, 2011 8:03 pm, Dale wrote:
SNIPPED
Any tips or tricks on Kubuntu anyone? Sort of a basic 'this is how you
update/install something for idiots'
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:54 +0100
Lorenzo Bandierilorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't use sudo on my rig so it sort of annoys me. ;-) I guess
we have that in common. lol
The update tool is GUI. That's why I think he can do that himself.
A lot like winders in
Michael Mol wrote:
Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between
Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06.
Not sure.) While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary
distros to support new things, it's been suffering more and more (and
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for
no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails.
ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
* Bringing up interface eth0
* ERROR: interface eth0 does not exist
* Ensure that you have loaded the
Am 11.11.2011 21:28, schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for
no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails.
ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
* Bringing up interface eth0
* ERROR: interface eth0 does
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500
Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out,
for no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails.
ajglap gottlieb # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
* Bringing up interface eth0
*
Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale:
If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that
keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done
that on Linux a couple times with little problems. I'm just not sure
about winders to Linux.
I suggest using
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500
Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out,
for no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails.
ajglap
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
ine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said,
if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the
wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do
user things but
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100
Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote:
Then you must be using a single-user machine. Like your own laptop
or desktop.
sudo is absolutely necessary on any multi-user machine unless you
like security holes.
Instead of bashing sudo, it's
Here is a quick description of how Redmond
intends to taint the bios on new products:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy
So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new
HP laptop (DV7-6178US). It would not boot the DVD. How
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:14:57 -0500
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
Never used OpenSuse, but I've spent about ten years bouncing between
Ubuntu and Debian. (I started using Ubuntu around either 5.04 or 6.06.
Not sure.)
While Ubuntu is usually among the first of the binary distros to
On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Now to teach him how to update the thing.
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend running
Ubuntu and ended up running away as fast as I could.
On Friday 11 Nov 2011 21:12:29 Michael Mol wrote:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:28:26 -0500
Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out,
for no good
On Friday 11 Nov 2011 22:02:40 Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-11-11, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Now to teach him how to update the thing.
I'll be interested in hearing how that goes. I had one weekend
Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale:
If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that
keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done
that on Linux a couple times with little problems. I'm just not sure
about winders to Linux.
On 10 November 2011 19:25, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
I have a 5 year old Mac OS X laptop which died last night -- no lights,
nothing, as if the battery
and AC line were disconnected. There's nothing on it which is a disaster to
lose, but there are
some things I'd like to get off. Is it
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600
Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
ine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said,
if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the
wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to
Grant Edwards wrote:
The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost
tolerable.
cough cough Care to share how you did that little trick? I like to
see the stuff scrolling up myself.
Is there a
Am 12.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Dale:
Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale:
If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that
keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done
that on Linux a couple times with little problems. I'm
Am 12.11.2011 00:36, schrieb Dale:
[...]
Now to figure out why the windows in Kubuntu have no borders and no
little X to close the window. sighs I hate the little details.
Dale
:-) :-)
That is a typical symptom that the window manager is not running
(probably crashed while loading
Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 12.11.2011 00:28, schrieb Dale:
Florian Philipp wrote:
Am 11.11.2011 21:25, schrieb Dale:
If I copy the WHOLE .mozilla directory from winders to Linux, won't that
keep all their settings, passwords, bookmarks and email? I have done
that on Linux a couple times with
On Friday 11 Nov 2011 21:45:08 James wrote:
Here is a quick description of how Redmond
intends to taint the bios on new products:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-
strategy
This I believe is on the cards for MSWindows 8 onwards.
So, recently I
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote:
Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said,
if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the
wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do
user things but nothing else.
What
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
Yes, Alan, you're right, I'm on a single-user machine. I apologize, I
should have made it clear. Indeed, I can see that in a multi-users
machine sudo is useful. I just don't agree on the Ubuntu policy of
using sudo instead of root by
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote:
The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost
tolerable.
cough cough Care to share how you did that little trick? I like
to see the stuff
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
If my ftp server stats are anything to go by, Linux Mint is the one
power users are targeting right now. Number of downloads is a
significant % of number of Ubuntu downloads.
How much of that is a knee-jerk reaction to Unity, Mint being
Am 12.11.2011 01:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote:
Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said,
if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the
wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be
It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer
than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use
AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances.
I was thinking of something like an AMD 1100T 6 core CPU, the new
Bulldozers are expensive and
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:45:23 +0100, Florian Philipp wrote:
What happens when there is that one thing they need to do that needs
root privileges? Do you give them the root password and let them do
what they want, or do you make that one operation available to them?
SETUID bit like
On 11/11/2011 12:55 PM, Grant wrote:
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from the backup server to another machine,
2011/11/12 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com:
Here is a quick description of how Redmond
intends to taint the bios on new products:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy
So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new
HP laptop
I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta.
When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx,
it can't work, output messages are below:
xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time
I use startx) does not exist
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc : line2 :
On Nov 12, 2011 7:58 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or Ebuyer
than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but use
AMD before that, so I have no real allegiances.
I was thinking of something
2011/11/11 Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com:
I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta.
When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx,
it can't work, output messages are below:
xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time
I use startx) does
2011/11/11 Lavender lavender_mat...@163.com:
I have cost eight hours and forty minutes in installing KDE Meta.
When I wake up this morning it has done. But when I startx,
it can't work, output messages are below:
xauth: file /root/.serverauth. ( is changed each time
I use startx) does
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from the backup server to another machine, but if the backups
are deleted or
Install kdm, modify /etc/conf.d/xdm, test it using /etc/init.d.xdm
start and turn kdm on permanently with rc-update
good luck,
Mark
Ah,thank you ! It seems that what I worried about would not happen :-)
The problem is that X is not installed. to install X, edit
/etc/make.conf and add VIDEO_CARDS=your video card here and emerge
xorg-server or emerge xorg-x11 to get X
Thanks, I hope it is all right without errors .
On Fri, Nov 11 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
My dell laptop E6510 had its motherboard replaced (as it turned out, for
no good reason) and now the wired ethernet fails.
Thank you florian, alan, michael, and mick.
This list is one of gentoo's strongest advantages.
To summarize the responses and
On 11/11/2011 08:14 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Nov 11, 2011 11:02 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de
mailto:rea...@arcor.de wrote:
On 11/11/2011 04:16 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:51:04PM +0100, Jarry wrote
Hi,
during testing I compiled kernel with some
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:10:27 +0100, Lorenzo Bandieri wrote:
Yes, Alan, you're right, I'm on a single-user machine. I apologize, I
should have made it clear. Indeed, I can see that in a multi-users
machine sudo is useful. I just don't agree on the Ubuntu policy of
using
On 11/11/2011 07:37 PM, Jarry wrote:
Hi,
this is actually not problem but rather a matter of customs:
My new fresh installed system shows root-fs in df as
/dev/root, not actuall device (in my case /dev/md2).
I think I coud get used to it, but some software still needs
/dev/md2 (i.e. lilo),
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600, Dale wrote:
Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said,
if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the
wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do
user things but
On 11/11/2011 11:45 PM, James wrote:
Here is a quick description of how Redmond
intends to taint the bios on new products:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-heavyweights-develop-secure-boot-strategy
So, recently I took a live-dvd-11.2 into Costco to check out a new
HP laptop
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote:
The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost
tolerable.
cough cough Care to share how you did that little trick? I like
to
On Nov 12, 2011 9:29 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem with my current push-style layout is that if one of the 3
machines is compromised, the attacker can delete or alter the backup
of the compromised machine on the backup server. I can rsync the
backups from the backup
On Nov 12, 2011 2:17 AM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
Just an illustration: My employer will soon do a PoC/Live Demo of this
product:
http://www.atempo.com/products/liveBackup/features.asp
Only an 'agent' lives inside the employee's workstation. It pushes all
writes
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:40:26 -0600, Dale wrote:
The next thing you do is configure it to boot into text mode with all
the kernel messages visible. Then you've got something that's almost
tolerable.
On 11/11/2011 09:22 PM, Grant wrote:
So if I push, I don't really have backups because anyone who breaks
into the backed-up system can delete all of its backups like this:
rdiff-backup --remove-older-than 1s backup@12.34.56.78::/path/to/backup
And if I pull, none of my backed-up systems
On 11/11/2011 10:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
And if I pull, none of my backed-up systems are secure because anyone
who breaks into the backup server has root read privileges on every
backed-up system and will thereby gain full root privileges quickly.
IMO that depends on whether you also
On Nov 11, 2011 9:13 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Nov 12, 2011 7:58 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
It's time for a new desktop, I'd rather the the money to Amazon or
Ebuyer
than the Inland Revenue. I'm currently running a Core2Duo system, but
use
AMD before
On Nov 12, 2011 11:23 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 11/11/2011 10:20 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
And if I pull, none of my backed-up systems are secure because anyone
who breaks into the backup server has root read privileges on every
backed-up system and will thereby
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