[gentoo-user] trusting perl-cleaner

2017-04-16 Thread allan gottlieb
Am I correct in believing that when perl-cleaner --all, at the end of a run, asserts * It seems like perl-cleaner had to rebuild some packages. * * The following files remain. These were either installed by hand * or edited. * /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.22.2/XML/SAX/ParserD

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: some capital B blockers in world update

2017-03-16 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Mar 15 2017, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Tue, 14 Mar 2017 13:00:17 -0400 > schrieb allan gottlieb : > >> On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > On 14/03/2017 16:43, allan gottlieb wrote: >> >> I update roughly twice a week. On one ma

Re: [gentoo-user] some capital B blockers in world update

2017-03-14 Thread allan gottlieb
On Tue, Mar 14 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/03/2017 16:43, allan gottlieb wrote: >> I update roughly twice a week. On one machine (full output below) I was >> told that libinput and evdev are blocking xorg-drivers >> >> [blocks B ] > ("> x1

[gentoo-user] some capital B blockers in world update

2017-03-14 Thread allan gottlieb
I update roughly twice a week. On one machine (full output below) I was told that libinput and evdev are blocking xorg-drivers [blocks B ]

Re: [gentoo-user] new wireless router

2017-02-09 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 08 2017, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 02/08/2017 07:42 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 08 2017, allan gottlieb wrote: >> >>> Our old Linksys wireless router is starting to hang more frequently. It >>> always comes back by cycling the

Re: [gentoo-user] new wireless router

2017-02-08 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 08 2017, allan gottlieb wrote: > Our old Linksys wireless router is starting to hang more frequently. It > always comes back by cycling the power, but it is probably time to > upgrade. > > I am looking at the Linksys EA6900 AC1900 Samar Wi-Fi dual-band router. > It

[gentoo-user] new wireless router

2017-02-08 Thread allan gottlieb
Our old Linksys wireless router is starting to hang more frequently. It always comes back by cycling the power, but it is probably time to upgrade. I am looking at the Linksys EA6900 AC1900 Samar Wi-Fi dual-band router. It is wireless-AC so will be big speed improvement over our wireless G. We h

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Dec 07 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:30 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 07 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:54:59 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> >>>> >>emerge: t

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Dec 07 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:54:59 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > >> >>emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-lang/python:3.3". >> >>(dependency required by "@preserved-rebuild" [argument])

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Dec 07 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0500, allan gottlieb wrote: > >>emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-lang/python:3.3". >>(dependency required by "@preserved-rebuild" [argument]) > > Does "

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Dec 07 2016, Dale wrote: > allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 06 2016, Adam Carter wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:37 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> >>>> I can't complete an emerge @preserved-rebuild due to the lack of >>

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Tue, Dec 06 2016, Adam Carter wrote: > Also, what's your $PYTHON_TARGETS ? emerge --info includes PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4" which looks right to me. thanks, allan

Re: [gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-07 Thread allan gottlieb
On Tue, Dec 06 2016, Adam Carter wrote: > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:37 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: > >> I can't complete an emerge @preserved-rebuild due to the lack of >> python3.3. >> >> However, I read the news article and have set the python3 interpr

[gentoo-user] preserved rebuild failure with python

2016-12-06 Thread allan gottlieb
I can't complete an emerge @preserved-rebuild due to the lack of python3.3. However, I read the news article and have set the python3 interpreter to python3.4 allan ~ # eselect python list --python3 Available Python 3 interpreters: [1] python3.3 [2] python3.4 * allan ~ # es

[gentoo-user] trouble starting gnome-terminal (SOLVED)

2016-10-02 Thread allan gottlieb
On Thu, Sep 29 2016, allan gottlieb wrote: > I run systemd if that is relevant. All commands below were run > as ordinary user "gottlieb" (I know the sudo runs the stated command as > root) > > On one machine (named E6430) running gnome-terminal is problematic. &

[gentoo-user] trouble starting gnome-terminal

2016-09-29 Thread allan gottlieb
I run systemd if that is relevant. All commands below were run as ordinary user "gottlieb" (I know the sudo runs the stated command as root) On one machine (named E6430) running gnome-terminal is problematic. If I log via the gnome graphical login screen I cannot start a gnome termi

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (now works)

2016-07-20 Thread allan gottlieb
I cannot explain the following. I was about the try the last suggestions (use kill -9; load more sound modules) when I, just for fun, retried alsamixer. I did the usual unmute everything and it somehow just worked. I did nothing new and would not be surprised if, during the next flight, the head

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

2016-07-17 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 16 2016, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 04:17:04PM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote: >> >> To answer Alec's questions this is a 3.5mm jack. Nothing new in dmesg. >> sudo lspci | grep -i audio shows >> 00:03.0 Audio device: Int

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

2016-07-16 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 16 2016, Ian Bloss wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:25 AM allan gottlieb wrote: > >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop >> >> Gentoo essentially all stable >> Gnome / Systemd >> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no he

[gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

2016-07-16 Thread allan gottlieb
Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop Gentoo essentially all stable Gnome / Systemd When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are plugged it. No sound at all with headphones. I tried a few, one with a microphone several without. The gnome sound settings gui recognizes that

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

2016-07-13 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote: > allan gottlieb wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote: >> >> > allan gottlieb wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Jul

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

2016-07-13 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote: > allan gottlieb wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb >> > wrote: >> >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop >> >&g

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

2016-07-13 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop >> >> Gentoo essentially all stable >> Gnome / Systemd >> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds

[gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

2016-07-13 Thread allan gottlieb
Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop Gentoo essentially all stable Gnome / Systemd When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are plugged it. No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones). The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in. The sound

Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Fri, Jun 24 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 24/06/2016 16:06, allan gottlieb wrote: >> Having read the latest news article and rereading parts of the >> localization guide, it is not clear to me what action, if any, I need to >> take. >> >> My systems are US

[gentoo-user] LINGUAS, L10N, and local-gen

2016-06-24 Thread allan gottlieb
Having read the latest news article and rereading parts of the localization guide, it is not clear to me what action, if any, I need to take. My systems are US English only /etc/portage/make.conf has LINGUAS="en" /etc/local.gen has just comments plus en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

Re: [gentoo-user] dealing with distfiles bloat?

2016-03-06 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sun, Mar 06 2016, Alan Grimes wrote: > I can't really read the stupid unformatted du output but it looks like I > have 30 gb of bloat in some 3,600 files in my distfiles directory. is > there any sane way to prune out some of the older versions, I am in no > mood to spend all day hand-pruning t

Re: [gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-25 Thread allan gottlieb
Both david and alan suggested global icu use flag. Specifically On Thu, Feb 25 2016, David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, 24 Feb 2016, allan gottlieb wrote: > [..] >>dev-libs/libxml2:2 >> >> (dev-libs/libxml2-2.9.2-r4:2/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

Re: [gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Alan McKinnon wrote: > A finite subset of this package.use file will let skype install, > followed of course by > emerge skype. > > I arrived at this list the long hard way, repeatedly running emerge and > adding stuffs still portage stopped it's whinging. The worst part is Qt

Re: [gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-24 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Ralf wrote: > Hi, > > I hate those tons of abi_x86_32 packages as well. > > This is also not solving your slot conflict, but why not: > - Use a Windows VM for Skype > - Use a small Linux VM for Skype (e.g. Debian) > and just redirect your webcam. > > In this way, you don't

[gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-24 Thread allan gottlieb
full output. Help would be much appreciated. thanks, allan E7450-wired gottlieb # emerge --pretend skype These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N~] net-im/skype

Re: [gentoo-user] chromium-browser will not start

2016-01-28 Thread allan gottlieb
On Thu, Jan 28 2016, allan gottlieb wrote: > Just now chromium will not start > > gottlieb@E7450 /local/allan/gottlieb $ chromium-browser > [1318:1338:0128/133753:ERROR:nss_util.cc(839)] After loading Root > Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 > > I am

[gentoo-user] chromium-browser will not start

2016-01-28 Thread allan gottlieb
Just now chromium will not start gottlieb@E7450 /local/allan/gottlieb $ chromium-browser [1318:1338:0128/133753:ERROR:nss_util.cc(839)] After loading Root Certs, loaded==false: NSS error code: -8018 I am running stable gentoo, gnome, systemd thanks in advance for any tips. allan

Re: [gentoo-user] combining pdf files, different size

2015-11-20 Thread allan gottlieb
On Fri, Nov 20 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > I use pdf2ps, cat ps1 ps2 ps3 > final.ps, ps2pdf > I think these come in some postscript package (at least they did in debian). Gentoo has it as well E6430-wireless ~ # equery b /usr/bin/pdf2ps * Searching for /usr/bin/pdf2ps ... app-text/ghostscrip

Re: [gentoo-user] reading data cd/dvd

2015-11-11 Thread allan gottlieb
t the requires. Hm. Maybe a missing chipset-driver like > pata_atiixp as I use? > > Or systemd-udev etc. is hiccupping, so the kernel (sr_mod) provides > the dev "per se" but there's no /dev/sr* device-node created, so let's > start at the "bottom" and

Re: [gentoo-user] reading data cd/dvd

2015-11-11 Thread allan gottlieb
On Wed, Nov 11 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:01:10 +0100, David Haller wrote: > >> Add the device(s) to fstab like so: >> >> /dev/cdrom /cdrom autonoauto,ro,user,users >> 0 0 /dev/dvd/dvdauto >> noauto,ro,user,users0 0 >> >>

[gentoo-user] reading data cd/dvd

2015-11-10 Thread allan gottlieb
subdirectory gottlieb. The data cd is mounted there. Looking at df gives /dev/sr0286490 286490 0 100% /run/media/gottlieb/COD3E The new machine does not even have /dev/sr0. Am I missing a kernel option I have the following in scsi device support. < > RAID Transport

Re: [gentoo-user] update problems

2015-10-03 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Oct 03 2015, l...@yagibdah.de wrote: > What is b.g.o.? http://bugs.gentoo.org allan

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-23 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sun, Aug 23 2015, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:38:23 -0400 > schrieb allan gottlieb : > >> Thank you marc and fernando (fernando, I think your replies go only to >> marc and not to the group). >> >> So it seems the conclusion is timers can

[gentoo-user] python problem trying to emerge systemd-cron

2015-08-23 Thread allan gottlieb
Trying to emerge systemd-cron results in the following error !!! Problem resolving dependencies for sys-process/systemd-cron ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "systemd-cron" has unmet requirements. - sys-process/systemd-cron-1.5.3::gentoo USE="-cron-boot -etc-crontab-systemd -minutel

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-23 Thread allan gottlieb
Thank you marc and fernando (fernando, I think your replies go only to marc and not to the group). So it seems the conclusion is timers can't achieve both 1. Run only once a day even if you boot often. 2. Not starting for at least 10 minutes after boot I realize that you can achieve 2 outside the

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Marc Joliet wrote: > Am Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:15:38 -0400 > schrieb Fernando Rodriguez : > >> On Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:52:47 PM allan gottlieb wrote: >> > I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The >> syste

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> I can tell you that equality comparisons on floats are problematic, and >> always will be due to how they are stored (double-precision floats, >> inhernetly inexact). This is not a "problem" per

[gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The system is a laptop that is normally turned off each evening. As I read the manuals one can have either a monotone or a realtime timer. But I seem to need features of each. Specifically, I would like the daily timer to trig

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/22/2015 09:42 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon >> >> Either add a tolerance (a - b <= t) or compare them as strings as >> you've been doing. >> > > You probably

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-03 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 03 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > In latptops/workstations NetworkManager takes care of > everything. However, I still enable systemd-networkd and > systemd-resolved in my laptop and workstations. If enabled without any > configuration, it just monitors the network interfaces and k

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-224 Look out for new networking behavior

2015-08-03 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Aug 02 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 10:03 AM, walt wrote: >> >> I've been running systemd for a long time without needing to enable >> the dhcpcd service at boot time. Starting with systemd-224 that is no >> longer true. Today I had to enable dhcpcd.service

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-29 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 29 2015, Mick wrote: > I think (but not sure) that L1 is a legacy power management feature of > PCIe. LTR is a more dynamic, latency based, power management > standard, which auto- adjusts the power on the device depending on how > long it takes to wake up. L1 on its own would consum

[gentoo-user] Solved: trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-29 Thread gottlieb
I don't know what fixed it. I did add a trivial /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf # The below line not be changed otherwise we refuse to work ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant network={ key_mgmt=NONE priority=-999 } But it might have been th

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-29 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 28 2015, Meino Cramer wrote: > > Hi Allan, > > I just in the beginning of "doing wifi" (see previous thread...) but > may be this is of help: > > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92541 > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=301637 > http://askubuntu.com/questions/6

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-29 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 29 2015, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 29 Jul 2015 01:36:22 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> I am having trouble with wireless on a new install (gnome/systemd). >> >> lspci reports >> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) >> >> I looked this up and it requires

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-29 Thread gottlieb
Please see the addendum at the end. On Tue, Jul 28 2015, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > I am having trouble with wireless on a new install (gnome/systemd). > > lspci reports > 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) > > I looked this up and it requires the iwlwifi driver

[gentoo-user] trouble with wireless on new install

2015-07-28 Thread gottlieb
I am having trouble with wireless on a new install (gnome/systemd). lspci reports 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59) I looked this up and it requires the iwlwifi driver and iwlmvm, which I enabled in the kernel (as modules). lsmod reports Module

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon : >> >> Is that "Alan" as in me? >> > No, I should have written "Allan", I didn't notice the 'll' also as he > was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with > same name I omitted the last name. >

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Todd Goodman wrote: > In the times I've had to deal with support it's usually about doing what > they ask so they finally believe that it's a hardware problem and will > generate the needed RMA # to get replacements. Sometimes that's running > Dell Diagnostics and sometimes i

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote: >> 2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman : >> > I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.) >> > >> > But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other >> > OS' on bare metal

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to >> 50 takes work as there are "unmovable" files in the middle (the "" are >> there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I di

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to >> 50 takes work as there are "unmovable" files in the middle (the "" are >> there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I di

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: > I'm afraid you're right: > > "Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot > from GPT disks? > > Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only > supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems." > >

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote: > >> Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like >> parted to check. >> >> Dan > > MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot > manager can be chainl

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-26 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without >> uefi prevents dual booting windows. > > So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition > table

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-25 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: > On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: >> >> > On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, wrote: >> >> >> >> My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. >> >> However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. >> >> >> >> It finds

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jul 22 2015, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. > However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. > > It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I > get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with /dev/s

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> I really don't want to damage any "signature" on the extended partition >> that is needed to access the "sub-partitions" it contains. As I said >> my newly installed gentoo resides on thos

Re: [gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-23 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote: > On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, wrote: >> >> My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. >> However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. >> >> It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I >> get messages that both ext4-fs

[gentoo-user] gru2-mkconfig tries to read the extended partition ??

2015-07-22 Thread gottlieb
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine. However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd. It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with /dev/sda4, which is the extended partition. Perhaps the fact

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-22 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote: > But this conversation touches on a more general point: which profile > is best at each stage of an installation? I've had to rebuild my KDE > system a few times recently (at least I thought I did at the time, but > that's another story). I settled on a

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-21 14:23 GMT-06:00 : >> Probably the --unmerge would have worked. But I basically started over >> (untar of the stage3) and applied canek two-step recipe >>First switch to the systemd profile and emerge world >>Second switch to the gnome/sy

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jul 21 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:13:19 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> > Did you read this part? >> > >> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Optional:_Using_systemd >> >> Yes I did and had the systemd wiki page on a chromium tab wh

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-21 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Jul 20 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:02 PM, wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jul 18 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, wrote: >> >> >> >> I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, >> >> user. I also us

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-20 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 21:00:54 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, >> user. I also use lvm (I have / and /usr combined on a non-lvm >> partition). >> >> At the point where you choose a

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-20 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Jul 18 2015, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 8:00 PM, wrote: >> >> I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, >> user. I also use lvm (I have / and /usr combined on a non-lvm partition). >> >> At the point where you choose a profile >> (//

[gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

2015-07-18 Thread gottlieb
I am installing gentoo on a new laptop. I am a gnome, hence systemd, user. I also use lvm (I have / and /usr combined on a non-lvm partition). At the point where you choose a profile (//wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Full/Installation#Choosing_the_right_profile) I selected [5] default/lin

Re: [gentoo-user] booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-18 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:40 PM, wrote: >> I believe I correctly dd'ed a minimal cd onto a usb flash (aka thumb) >> drive. >> >> I set the boot order on my new system (dell 7450) to have the usb >> storage device first. Sure enough I get the isolinux

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 16 July 2015 at 23:48, wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >> >>> On 16 July 2015 at 23:39, wrote: On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 16 July 2015 at 23:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2015-07-16,

Re: [gentoo-user] booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-16 14:44 GMT-06:00 : > >> I have not had trouble with the minimal cd. I do the actual work on >> another (gentoo) machine. >> > > * Tries to boot an Image, 4+ hours later and after asking help to the > mailing list, still no success in booting, has

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 16 July 2015 at 23:39, wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >> >>> On 16 July 2015 at 23:28, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2015-07-16, Alan McKinnon wrote: > The Gentoo minimal CD does not work if you simply dd it to a t

Re: [gentoo-user] booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Jc García wrote: > 2015-07-16 14:17 GMT-06:00 : >> On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: The Gentoo minimal CD does not work if you simply dd it to a thumb drive (I rediscovered this anew on Mond

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > On 16 July 2015 at 23:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> On 2015-07-16, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > The Gentoo minimal CD does not work if you simply dd it to a thumb drive >> > (I rediscovered this anew on Monday). It works just fine if you use >> > unetb

Re: [gentoo-user] booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jul 16 2015, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> The Gentoo minimal CD does not work if you simply dd it to a thumb drive >> (I rediscovered this anew on Monday). It works just fine if you use >> unetbootin to do the magic though. > > I high

[gentoo-user] booting from a usb flash drive

2015-07-16 Thread gottlieb
I believe I correctly dd'ed a minimal cd onto a usb flash (aka thumb) drive. I set the boot order on my new system (dell 7450) to have the usb storage device first. Sure enough I get the isolinux prompt and the kernel is loaded. However after asking for the keymap (I just hit enter) it types "lo

Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation cd vs system rescue cd

2015-07-01 Thread gottlieb
Thank you Daniel, Mick, and Jc for the clarifications/suggestions. To respond to Jc, yes I used systemd so you suggestion is apt. thanks again to all, allan

[gentoo-user] minimal installation cd vs system rescue cd

2015-07-01 Thread gottlieb
My new laptop should arrive this month. It will presumably support UEFI, which I have never used before. I have two questions. 1. The gentoo handbook favors using the minimal installation CD. I downloaded the iso, verified it's integrity, and "burned" it to a USB stick with dd. However the wi

Google / Oracle / Java / etc (was: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?)

2015-06-30 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jun 30 2015, James wrote: > I think I just heard a news report that Google lost a long term > legal/financial battle with Oracle over java. It seems now that google > (android and any thing that uses java) is going to have to pay > Oracle some 'pal_a_monies' ? Or did I here that wrong? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is purchasing a usb blu ray a good idea?

2015-06-29 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Jun 29 2015, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2015-06-26, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> My new (dell E7450) laptop will be a slimline with no internal optical >> drive. So I want to purchase an external optical drive. My first >> thought was to get a drive that is both >>a blue ray READER and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is purchasing a usb blu ray a good idea?

2015-06-28 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 28 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:10:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I have a blu-ray reader, plugged into my Kodi machine. It's never had a >> BR disk in it, instead, it plays CDs! > > I have a Blu-Ray reader in my desktop, it's a nice fast DVD-RW drive :) Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is purchasing a usb blu ray a good idea?

2015-06-28 Thread gottlieb
thank you alan and walt. allan

[gentoo-user] is purchasing a usb blu ray a good idea?

2015-06-26 Thread gottlieb
My new (dell E7450) laptop will be a slimline with no internal optical drive. So I want to purchase an external optical drive. My first thought was to get a drive that is both a blue ray READER and a dvd writer I naively thought that USB is USB so any such drive would work. However googlin

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-25 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jun 25 2015, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 25 Jun 2015 16:06:31 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:36:36 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> > > The XPS 13 at least is available as a "Developer Edition" that comes >> > > with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS instead of Windows. >> > >> > I "dual bo

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-25 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jun 25 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:36:36 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> > The XPS 13 at least is available as a "Developer Edition" that comes >> > with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS instead of Windows. >> >> I "dual boot" windows and gentoo. The quotes are there since

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-25 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jun 25 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 25/06/2015 15:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:09:03 +0100, Mick wrote: >> >>> I would seek a refund for the MSWindows OS that it comes preinstalled >>> with. (This is a blatant case of software bundling with their products >>> and

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-25 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jun 25 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:09:03 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> I would seek a refund for the MSWindows OS that it comes preinstalled >> with. (This is a blatant case of software bundling with their products >> and the refusal to cough up a refund when requested re

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-24 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jun 24 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: > One more thing I can add: From observation, I can say that Dell has 2 or > more grades of kit they sell: > > 1. Cheap shit. You find these in supermarkets and Walmart. It's just as > crappy as all the other cheap shit around with the same bargain basemen

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-23 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 06/23/2015 10:50 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've >>> been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now.

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-23 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jun 23 2015, Christopher Jones wrote: > Sent from my iPhone > > Regarding the touch screens/tablets, Gentoo has drivers for them. I've > been using Gentoo on my tablet PC for years now. However there's no > swipe capability. I've read someone who did it but that was just one > person and c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-23 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 21 2015, James wrote: > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > >> Allan Gottlieb writes: >> >> > The hardest decision is size vs performance, but I know you can't help > > Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps I was unclear. I simply meant that clearly

Re: [gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-23 Thread gottlieb
On Sun, Jun 21 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 21/06/2015 21:16, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> I am seriously thinking of updating my dell 6430s laptop purchased 3 >> years ago. NYU has an arrangement with dell so that is the only maker >> I am considering. This machine will be essentially gentoo o

[gentoo-user] purchasing a dell laptop

2015-06-21 Thread gottlieb
I am seriously thinking of updating my dell 6430s laptop purchased 3 years ago. NYU has an arrangement with dell so that is the only maker I am considering. This machine will be essentially gentoo only (I configure my computers to dual boot some version of windows for ease in dealing with dell su

Re: [gentoo-user] [~and64] Headsup for google-chrome users

2015-05-22 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, May 22 2015, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 22/05/2015 10:38, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 22 May 2015 02:53:17 -0500, Dale wrote: >> So I'm the 3rd one in row to state that I haven't had any deleterious effects that I noticed. >> >> Make that 4. > > /raises hand: > 5 ++1 allan

Re: [gentoo-user] Tips for fresh install with GRUB2+RAID1+LVM2

2015-05-19 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, May 19 2015, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, wrote: >> On Tue, May 19 2015, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >>> On Tuesday 19 May 2015 10:53:26 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Peter Humphrey >>> wrote: > Incidentally, what's the received

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