Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-05 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/4/2015 3:06 AM, Mick wrote: You can increase its verbosity in /etc/init.d/dhcpcd, so that the logs show more of what is happening to cause the crash. Also, here at least, I have /run/dhcpcd/ with its subdirectories as well as /run/dhcpcd-enp11s0.pid both owned by root:root, but this is a

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/3/2015 8:59 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Thursday, September 03, 2015 8:09:02 PM Mike Edenfield wrote: What makes rc-status think something is crashed, and how can I fix this? basement log # rc-status -v | grep crashed dhcpd [ crashed ] basement log # ps aux | grep dhcpd root

[gentoo-user] dhcpd always shows "crashed" even though it's running

2015-09-03 Thread Mike Edenfield
For some reason, whenever I check the status of my startup scripts, dhcpd registers as "crashed". However, dhcpd is up and running and working fine. Normally I don't worry about it, but on those occasions where dhcpd does stop working, it's hard to tell if it's "fixed" or not. What makes rc-st

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot up error messages. Init thingy needed now??

2015-02-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/8/2015 10:35 AM, Dale wrote: would build correctly, both compile and create the init thingy. So, I now have a couple kernels that have a init thingy, testing with that, Has anyone ever pointed out that "init thingy" actually takes more effort to type than "initramfs" or "initrd"?

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

2014-12-16 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:46 PM > On 16/12/2014 20:05, walt wrote: > > On 12/15/2014 11:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> /tmp is still very much in use and very much needed, it isn't going > >> anywhere soon. The FHS has something inte

RE: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:59 AM > > Am 22.08.2014 um 02:05 schrieb Mike Edenfield: > > > From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:41 PM

RE: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:41 PM > you said you used 6 different kernel versions - which one? Did you use > vanilla or gentoo sources? And... maybe config? I've used all gentoo-sources so far, but I can give vanilla a try. Acc

RE: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-20 Thread Mike Edenfield
(BTW: I'm terribly sorry for the horrid formatting and duplicate mails; I'm stuck using Outlook until I get this resolved) > From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:55 PM > > Am 20.08.2014 um 02:28 schrieb Mik

RE: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-19 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 8:01 PM > > Am 17.08.2014 um 12:33 schrieb Mick: > > On Sunday 17 Aug 2014 02:56:58 Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > >> When I `modprobe -r ochi_pci` while the system is o

RE: [gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-16 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Volker Armin Hemmann [mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 7:53 PM > Am 14.08.2014 um 03:52 schrieb Mike Edenfield: > > I've recently taken an old Windows XP system and rebuilt it to run Gentoo. Since > > then, I've been having iss

[gentoo-user] Intermittent USB device failures

2014-08-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
I've recently taken an old Windows XP system and rebuilt it to run Gentoo. Since then, I've been having issues using any type of USB input device (which is particularly bad, since it has no PS/2 input ports). After some indeterminate period of time, the input device simply stops responding. Typica

RE: [gentoo-user] openpty() failing with UNIX98 ptys

2013-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Humphrey [mailto:pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org] > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:51 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] openpty() failing with UNIX98 ptys > > On Sunday 27 January 2013 04:46:22 Mike Ed

RE: [gentoo-user] openpty() failing with UNIX98 ptys

2013-01-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:49 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] openpty() failing with UNIX98 ptys > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:46:22 -0500 > "Mike Edenfield" wrote

[gentoo-user] openpty() failing with UNIX98 ptys

2013-01-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
At some point recently, one of my systems has begun having problems allocating pseudo-terminals via the UNIX98 pty scheme. I am using the same kernel configuration I've had for years, and running the latest ~amd64 version of all the relevant packages. The problem manifests itself on any program tha

RE: [gentoo-user] Ekopath compiler failing to build - something about glibc development files

2013-01-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
> On 13 January 2013, at 06:53, Andrew Lowe wrote: > ... > From all of the above, I think the important part is that I need to > install some "glibc developement files". A google search doesn't point me in > the direction of what these might be. According to "eix glibc", I have debug > turned

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2013-01-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:08 PM > > On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:56:52 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > In case you haven't noticed, since Windows 7 (or Vista, forget which) > > Microsoft has even went the distance of splitting betwee

[gentoo-user] courier-imap cannot find courier-authlib

2012-11-02 Thread Mike Edenfield
I recently upgraded my courier setup (imap and authlib): basement lib64 # eix -Ic courier [I] net-libs/courier-authlib (0.65.0-r1@11/01/2012): Courier authentication library. [I] net-mail/courier-imap (4.8.0@11/01/2012): An IMAP daemon designed specifically for maildirs. After I was finished, the

RE: [gentoo-user] Python TK

2012-07-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Silvio Siefke [mailto:siefke_lis...@web.de] >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:36:37 -0400 >> Michael Mol wrote: >> >> > Just don't use "-march=native" when cross-compiling. :) > Now i use native. Is there a problem, i know from FreeBSD, there on ML have > say me i should use. Using "-march=na

Re: [gentoo-user] convert wmv to mp4?

2012-05-04 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/1/2012 6:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of painful to start maintaining a 32-bit chroot just to handle this sort of thing. I suspect there's some freeware for the Windows world that might allow me to do the conversion in a VM. I'll start looking for that. The web site that advertised conver

RE: [gentoo-user] Just a heads-up, I think =sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r3 is a stinker.

2012-04-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Michael Mol [mailto:mike...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:54 PM > I can no longer ssh into either inara or kaylee. Clearly they are busy fsck'ing /malcom and /simon

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-04-03 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/2/2012 11:12 PM, Dale wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Actually, the initramfs finished without a single error: between [1.962007] dracut: + source_conf /etc/conf.d and [2.395576] dracut: Switching root there is not a single error. The initramfs did what it needed to do; the u

RE: [gentoo-user] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Jason Weisberger [mailto:jbdu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 2:11 PM > It would figure that some in the Linux community would > consider a sub 1.0 release as the birthday of a project :). You were sub-1.0 when you were born, why not Gentoo? Besides, the 1999 "birthday" ref

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:04 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting > software to /sbin rather than initramfs? > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:35:36 -0400, Michael Mol

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > OK, semantics. Let me re-phrase: > > Why is a third party script, running in the context of the udev universe, > indiscriminately allowed to launch daemons at early boot time? > > I don't think I agree with Neil in that this is a udev desi

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch. It works in > Console but nothing root works in KDE. I get the same error. > Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password. > Krusader asks for password and says th

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Hi, Mike. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:24:14AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > > > Hi, Alan. > > > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKi

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:50:04 -0500, Dale wrote: > > > So throw out my plans and just do it their way? In that case, I may > > as well use Fedora since it sort of started there. Maybe that is what > > they wanted and planned. > > According to

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I don't > know if it's true or not. dracut wants you to have loadable module /support/ in your kernel so it can scan for modules needed by the rootfs. The kernel-module support in d

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] > On Mar 28, 2012 11:27 AM, "Mike Edenfield" wrote: >> Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered "ugly" >> except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague, unarticulated >> gro

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Canek Peláez Valdés [mailto:can...@gmail.com] > I agree with most of what you say; however, I believe you are mistaken > about the static nature of the binaries in the initramfs created by dracut. I > use dracut with the whole bang (plymouth, systemd, udev, you name it), and > I don't hav

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > Hi, Alan. > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 + > > Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > > That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to > > > copy (not move) booting

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Thing is, I can't get dracut to boot a system as I use it. See my other post. > Right now, my plan is to mask udev at what it is and either switch to another > distro, hope someone figures out why dracut isn't working or just move > everything to / an

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk] > Yes it is, I now I used to waste my time like that. Now I have a config file that > lists what needs to go into the initramfs and the kernel build automatically > pulls everything in for me. The only other thing I need is the init script. So I >

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: c...@chrekh.se [mailto:c...@chrekh.se] > > Neil Bothwick writes: > > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > >> > As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to > >> > realize that the idea of "tiny partition that contains just what I > >> >

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Mike Edenfield wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that a stable Dracut is a prerequisite for a stable > > udev-182+. Hopefully with more people taking interest in using an > > initramfs it will stabilize quickly. It's workin

RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:27 AM > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:02:02AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > > > > M

RE: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> > If this is all you need, I recommend you use dracut. The default > > installation (no use-flags or optional modules) will product an > > initramfs that loads whatever you current rootfs and /usr partitions are. > > > > I've been working on updating the wiki with more detailed > > instructions;

RE: [gentoo-user] After /usr conflation: why not copy booting software to /sbin rather than initramfs?

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 9:37 AM > My question: what, technically, prevents me from copying the booting > software instead to /sbin and booting the system that way? Nothing; in fact, this was the general solution to the problem of "something else

Re: [gentoo-user] InitRAMFS - boot expert sought

2012-03-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/27/2012 6:36 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, I've been looking for simple method to create a simple initramfs to just mount the /usr partition. I've found http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Basic_initramfs_used_to_check_and_mount_/usr If this is all you need, I recommend you use dracut. The def

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

2012-03-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Walter Dnes [mailto:waltd...@waltdnes.org] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 5:14 PM > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:35:55PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote > > > What we're talking about with systemd vs openrc, and things like ssh'd > > first-time initialization is all within the realm of responsib

RE: [gentoo-user] mdev for udev substitution instructions web page is up

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
> Walter Dnes wrote: > The instructions for replacing udev with mdev are now up at > http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ validator.w3.org complains about a couple > of extensions I used, but it appears to work OK in both Firefox and > Midori. Any comments from users of other browsers? The page will be

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > This has been one of my points too. I could go out and buy me a bluetooth > mouse/keyboard but I don't because it to complicates matters. I had a long reply to Walt that I (probably wisely) decided not to send, but the basic point of it is also releva

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:28 PM > This email [1] (and the correction email right afterwards) should give some > much-needed perspective on > why we're driving full-speed toward an overturned manure truck (which some of > us, e.g., Walter a

RE: [gentoo-user] mdev: Has anybody managed to get the keyboard and mouse to work under X?

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:21 AM > As I've said a few times in the current threads, the only thing preventing me > from moving fully onto mdev is not having a working keyboard and mouse > (evdev??) under X. > > Has anybody else tried this, an

RE: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:13 PM > BUT, in the same message, it is stated that Xorg *can* be compiled to *not* > try to communicate with udev. > I suspect a similar situation with Gnome. IIRC, GNOME only needs udev for auto-mount support. gv

RE: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-(

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:04 PM > Huh? What's that to do with udev? You're talking at far too high a level of > abstraction. The new hardware will "just work" if there are the correct > drivers built in. That's as true of udev as it is of mdev

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:14 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts. > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:54:58 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > > The idea of trying to

RE: [gentoo-user] Re: LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 7:23 PM > I like that quote. I may not be dev material but I know this /usr mess > is not right. The only reason it is happening is because of one or two > distros that push it to make it easier for themselves. If that's ho

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?

2012-02-18 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 2/18/2012 5:26 AM, Dale wrote: Howdy, I ran across this and though it was a joke. Did a news search and sure enough, it is reported in lots of places. Random linky: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102856/Will-FBI-shut-Internet-March-8-virus-concerns.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Is ther

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:43 PM > > Mike Edenfield wrote: > >> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM > >> > >> Howdy, > >> > >

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM > Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that > required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They > said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM > > Howdy, > > I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went > out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't > have the restore discs. We ordered those fr

RE: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: James Broadhead [mailto:jamesbroadh...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:15 AM > On 30 January 2012 13:09, Michael Hampicke wrote: > >> Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it > >> actually work: > >> > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive

RE: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Michael Hampicke [mailto:gentoo-u...@hadt.biz] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:10 AM > > > Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it > > actually work: > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2009/04/02/9528175.aspx > > > Quote > > And you certainl

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/29/2012 1:14 PM, Michael Mol wrote: 2) On PC clones, floppies never had auto-insert detection. (Though maybe you'd get something like that if you used a superfloppy or LS-120 drive to read them) Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it actually work: http://bl

RE: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Frank Steinmetzger [mailto:war...@gmx.de] > Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:05 AM > This backs me up in using noscript and flashblock. Sometimes I doubt myself > when I get asked once more why I would use NoScript in times when most of > the web relies on JS. I then say that privacy an

RE: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Chris Walters [mailto:cjw20...@comcast.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:27 AM > > On 1/17/2012 08:39 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > On 1/17/2012 1:55 AM, Chris Walters wrote: > >> that have make files for MS Visual Studio. I have no interest in &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/17/2012 6:41 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Chris Walters wrote: I have a question about cross compiling in Gentoo - specifically cross compiling for W32/W64. I tried their preferred method and didn't like it, so I downloaded the appropriate Mingw64 build files, set up a cross compile accoun

Re: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo

2012-01-17 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 1/17/2012 1:55 AM, Chris Walters wrote: Hi, I have a question about cross compiling in Gentoo - specifically cross compiling for W32/W64. I tried their preferred method and didn't like it, so I downloaded the appropriate Mingw64 build files, set up a cross compile account, with the appropria

RE: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd

2012-01-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:31 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:09:40 -0500 > "Mike Edenfield" wrote: >

RE: [gentoo-user] Resetting the root passwd

2012-01-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:48 PM > On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:08:04 -0500 > Michael Mol wrote: > > > I'm seriously unconvinced that concatenating words significantly > > increases the difficulty of the problem. Just as a mentalist will

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-12-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 12/11/2011 1:10 PM, James Broadhead wrote: On 11 December 2011 10:41, Andrea Conti wrote: On 27/11/11 16.36, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. FYI, sys-apps/openrc-0.9.7 is out. Apparently, the solution to

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/27/2011 1:10 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 11/26/2011 07:32 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on ? Different packages include different levels of support for filtering their installed localization messages, typically one of "install everything"

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/25/2011 10:00 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 26 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 26.11.2011 01:28, schrieb Sebastian Pipping: It seems that /usr/share/locale is keeping files for many languages not of any use to me: around 200MB in total. Is there a way to configure this away that I am not aware of?

Re: [gentoo-user] Something weird and I'm confused. BIOS and SATA is empty

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/9/2011 8:55 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 08:47:07 -0500, Mike Edenfield wrote: Are you saying then that every time you download new source files you have to create or cp new localversion* files in /usr/src/linux/ for this auto-numbering to work? Yeah, though I wouldn&#

Re: [gentoo-user] Something weird and I'm confused. BIOS and SATA is empty

2011-11-09 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/9/2011 2:04 AM, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 09 Nov 2011 02:43:43 Mike Edenfield wrote: On 11/6/2011 8:54 PM, Dale wrote: Mine is like this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4547936 Aug 22 03:53 /boot/bzImage-3.0.3-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4548640 Sep 1 07:19 /boot/bzImage-3.0.4-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] Something weird and I'm confused. BIOS and SATA is empty

2011-11-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/6/2011 8:54 PM, Dale wrote: Mine is like this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4547936 Aug 22 03:53 /boot/bzImage-3.0.3-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4548640 Sep 1 07:19 /boot/bzImage-3.0.4-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5162752 Oct 12 21:49 /boot/bzImage-3.0.4-2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5167840 Oct 13 00:05

[gentoo-user] XEmacs build hangs loading update-elc.el

2011-10-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
I'm trying to build XEmacs on my laptop (Hardened ~amd64), and it appears to be stuck near the end trying to load and/or execute "update-elc.el" (it's been on this step for approaching 6 hours now). This happens every time I attempt to build xemacs (I've re-synched and restarted the build multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional

2011-10-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/15/2011 4:42 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Which one? That /var is not going into /? It's not disinformation, it is th true. If not, please be so kind of showin one single developer reference that says so. One. Single. One. Email, blog post, wiki, you choose it. But one single one. I d

Re: [gentoo-user] hardened-sources...what?

2011-09-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/22/2011 5:51 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) wrote: El 22/09/11 22:20, Michael Mol escribió: My question is...what kinds? Well mainly the PaX and the grsecurity patches. I also heard there is a WIP in bringing RSBAC back again too. Does gentoo-sources include the SELinux

Re: IDE for C/C++ (Was: Really OT now (Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr)

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/15/2011 8:22 PM, Michael Mol wrote: I don't show an ebuild for eclipse (I see dev-java/ant-eclipse-ecj, dev-java/eclipse-ecj and dev-util/eclipse-sdk). Last time I poked eclipse, it was a royal pain using any *DT unless one downloaded it as a packaged deal. Version dependencies were a pain.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:16:03 PM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 04:42:23 PM Mike Edenfield wrote: > > I would estimate that the vast, vast, vast majority of users are those > > such as myslelf, who have no opinion whatsoever, and eit

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 01:36:56 PM Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > But that's the thing: we (you and me) don't see the situation the same > > way. To me, the proposed changes are for the better. > > You are one of very few that feel this way. You are probably correct that

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/13/2011 8:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:38:30 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: Well, I'm a hacker. udev is free source, therefore fair game. I don't intend to put up with this nonsense without a fight. As far as I can make out, this is just one guy, Kay Siev

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/13/2011 10:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 07:50:13PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: it works for you, because your udev-rules need nothing from /usr/* It's *not* udev requiring /usr, it's the scripts triggered by the rules. Ah. OK. Maybe I've misunderstood

Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/12/2011 1:17 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Well, I'm a hacker. udev is free source, therefore fair game. I don't intend to put up with this nonsense without a fight. As far as I can make out, this is just one guy, Kay Sievers, who's on a power trip. Are there any indications at all that he

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/12/2011 3:12 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Saturday, September 10, 2011 02:54:58 AM Dale wrote: If we are so skilled, why is the Fedora dev not listening you reckon? Is the Fedora dev aware of non-Fedora installations? He is, because a Gentoo user/dev explicitly pointed out the problem

Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] - can /var be placed in a separate partition?

2011-09-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/11/2011 8:28 PM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: On Sunday, September 11 at 18:54 (-0500), Dale said: I think I saw it mentioned on -dev that some time shortly /usr and /var will be needed on / or you will need the init* thingy to boot. Hmm, that doesn't smell right to me. What I think you

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 9/10/2011 5:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:19:10 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/23/2011 12:49 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo, only to learn that the wireless card was faulty. And since I could no

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/23/2011 7:47 AM, Mick wrote: On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 07:25:42 Mike Edenfield wrote: I seem to recall a case where a user wiped their drive clean and installed Ubuntu or some such. The laptop went faulty and the person asked for it to be repaired/replaced under warranty, only to be told

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused

2011-07-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/22/2011 9:53 PM, CJoeB wrote: Because this will be a new computer and I may essentially void the warranty if I alter the pre-configuration, I seriously thought about leaving the status quo and putting up with Windows 7. However, I would lose practically as much as losing my first born! I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thunderbugs

2011-07-10 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 7/10/2011 5:20 AM, john wrote: Had a pesky invasion of little insects behind my screen. Of which a lot have seemed to stop moving. Think I'll a get sealed tft next time. I'll try sucking them out with a hoover. Damn things, tft was 350 pounds, you think it should have anti critters device.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/26/2011 4:01 PM, Dale wrote: Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 10:28:47 schrieb Dale: Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Try euse -I fortran. If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one. That doesn't appear to work like it should then. I get this: root@fir

[gentoo-user] KDE4 & NetworkManager applet?

2011-06-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
I've just switched my laptop over to KDE4 to see how it feels on the smaller screen, and I can't find the KDE equivalent of nm-applet. KDE 3's knetworkmanager doesn't compile for me, and when I run the GNOME nm-applet it adds and then immediately removes itself from the notification area. I u

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/25/2011 8:04 AM, Dale wrote: We restructured the dependency chain for fortran support, which includes a compile test now. The failure can be seen above. The Problem was in short, USE=fortran was enabled by default for linux arches, but people tend to disable it. Depending on gcc[fortran] d

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/24/2011 8:03 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Mike Edenfield [110623 18:34]: It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "if you aren't sure if you need it then you probably don't" category. So for most

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-24 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/23/2011 8:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:54:14 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: It's one package (cantor) that has one dependency (R) that is optional (USE=-R) that falls squarely into the "if you aren't sure if you need it then you probably don't&qu

Re: [gentoo-user] portage getting mixed up with USE?

2011-06-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/23/2011 6:31 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:06:00 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: b) it breaks the way portage displays his informations. Without autounmask the display of emerge shows what he is going to do. With autounmask it shows what needs to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/23/2011 6:22 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 16:50:10 Dale wrote: > >> If you use KDE like me, be prepared to put the thing back tho. Some KDE >> packages depend on things that seem to need it enabled. > > Looks like it's only packages that are pulled in by kdeedu-meta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/23/2011 1:04 AM, Dale wrote: > Mike Edenfield wrote: >> On 6/22/2011 2:35 PM, Dale wrote: >>> You have decided to build cantor with no backend. >>> To have this application functional, please do one of below: >>> # emerge -va1 '='k

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/22/2011 2:35 PM, Dale wrote: > When I did that, it complained that cantor was built with no backend. > Did you get the same thing? It said this here: > > WARN (postinst) > > You have decided to build cantor with no backend. > To have this application functional, please do one of below: >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/22/2011 11:35 AM, Dale wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >> I suppose you got the idea by now ;-) Do you need dev-lang/R? If >> not, then "emerge -pv --depclean dev-lang/R". Do you need the >> package(s) that this brings up? If not, continue --depclean those >> until you reach something

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/22/2011 9:33 AM, Dale wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 06/22/2011 02:18 PM, Dale wrote: >>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Uninstall sci-libs/blas-reference I guess. And probably whatever depends on it. Please do an "emerge -pv --depclean blas-reference" and post the output so

Re: [gentoo-user] chrome and everything

2011-06-02 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/2/2011 10:40 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:49 AM, András Csányi wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Something strange happen here. I have seen few things in Linux world >>> but this is very new for me! >>> >>> I have this f

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-06-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 6/1/2011 5:47 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 11:31 on Wednesday 01 June 2011, Indi did > opine thusly: > >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:00:01AM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Personally, I'd be livid if portage were to remove my carefully crafted >>> work from time

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken <--> egg (NFS & tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/14/2011 12:01 PM, Indi wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up building the gtk interface for absolute

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/14/2011 11:38 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Alan McKinnon /etc/make.profile is a symlink to something in $PORTDIR/profiles/ and that Odd. Not on my system, it's not. I bet it is: kutulu@basement ~ $ ls -l /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 8:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: In the pages preceding http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6 it seemed as though the process would be easy enough, having built up some experience working in chroot lately to fix fubar'd Fedora and Mandriva rpm database disa

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 9:27 PM, 刘勇泰 wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis mailto:thana...@asyr.hopto.org>> on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: >>> 个人经历,baselayout的

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