Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-09-01 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:09:46 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:41:19 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Really, I like to read people's opinion about genkernel, but no one has

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-09-01 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 15:47:01 +0200 Arnau Bria wrote: The Panic: Mounting /proc filesystem Creating block devices failed to create /dev/hde failed to create /dev/hde1 failed to create /dev/hde2 failed to create /dev/hde3 failed to create /dev/hde4 failed to create /dev/hde5 failed to create

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:14:29 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:51:44 +0200 [...] from make help: [...] Other generic targets: all - Build all targets marked with [*] * vmlinux - Build the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My original question was: what a the differences between my manual compilation and genkernel's one? No differences if you use the same config. Perhaps there're two or three things in the initrd you wouldn't find if you do a manual mkinitrd, but the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I like to read people's opinion about genkernel, but no one has tried to answer my question yet. In my first reply, I suggested looking at a diff between your config and genkernel's config. How did that turn out? -- Ryan W Sims --

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: I have seen horrible, horrible kernels created by it. Did they work? no. they did not even boot. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Volker Armin Hemmann skrev: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past, the change is great that it sucks again in the future. Plus it doesn't really make things easier, does it?

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/31/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann skrev: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past, the change is great that it sucks again in the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann skrev: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past, the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Arnau Bria
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:41:19 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Really, I like to read people's opinion about genkernel, but no one has tried to answer my question yet. In my first reply, I suggested looking at a diff between your config and

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:41:19 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Really, I like to read people's opinion about genkernel, but no one has tried to answer my question yet. In my first reply, I

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Ryan Sims skrev: I think Volker's point about genkernel not making things easier is just that it seems to be a source of confusion and complexity in this Go read his post please, he is making things up and blaming the tool for an idiot using it wrong. He somehow thinks that genkernel is

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 8/31/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the rest of his hate drivel is based on this kind of made up FUD against it and he is not alone, you see this hate FUD being spread all over about a decent tool, the author(s) deserve better treatment than this. Completely agreed.

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:41:19 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/31/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Really, I like to read people's opinion about genkernel, but no one has tried to answer my question yet. In my first reply, I

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote: And to the lies: Lie: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the past, the change is great that it sucks again in the future. Plus

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/31/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an idiot using it wrong. so viciously done in this thread is nothing but FUD. change is great that it sucks again in the future. Plus it doesn't really make things easier, does it? All the rest of his hate drivel ... made up FUD you

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 8/31/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote: And to the lies: Lie: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel. I won't touch it ever again. If something sucked in the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Steen Eugen Poulsen
Ryan Sims skrev: Please stop using inflammatory language. Everyone. If you must have an argument, start a new thread or take it off list. It's perfectly fine for someone to criticize genkernel, or portage, or a hammer, or a car, or any other tool. It's also fine if you disagree with their

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/31/07, Steen Eugen Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Sims skrev: Please stop using inflammatory language. Everyone. If you must have an argument, start a new thread or take it off list. It's perfectly fine for someone to criticize genkernel, or portage, or a hammer, or a car,

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Александър Л . Димитров
On 01:09 Fri 31 Aug, Arnau Bria wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:52:54 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/30/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 20:16:02 schrieb Ryan Sims: On 8/30/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genekrnel used one, so I assume my

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-31 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 8/31/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote: And to the lies: Lie: because I have seen more than one non-booting totally f* up kernel created by genkernel.

[gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make all make modules_install 4.-) mkinitrd initrm.2.6.21 2.6.21-gentoo-r4

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/30/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make all make

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 18:42:38 schrieb Arnau Bria: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link Just to make that point clear: Did

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 20:16:02 schrieb Ryan Sims: On 8/30/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/30/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 20:16:02 schrieb Ryan Sims: On 8/30/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link yeah, that won't work - gunzip it first.

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know - but I know that genkernel's config sucks. Why? I can make menuconfig and then: sudo genkernel --oldconfig --no-clean all This message was sent using IMP, the

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 8/30/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:05:47 -0300 Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know - but I know that genkernel's config sucks. Why? I can make menuconfig and then: sudo genkernel --oldconfig --no-clean all Well, I make it a point to not use genkernel, but do you think

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I make it a point to not use genkernel, but do you think it's slower? slower what? in what sense? This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:52:54 -0400 Ryan Sims wrote: On 8/30/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 20:16:02 schrieb Ryan Sims: On 8/30/07, Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! [...] You could diff the .config with the config that genkernel came up

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:32:53 +0200 Florian Philipp wrote: Am Donnerstag 30 August 2007 18:42:38 schrieb Arnau Bria: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link Just to make that point clear: Did you just mv /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config or did you cp

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Arnau Bria
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:51:44 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make all make modules_install make all modules_install install from make help: [...] Other generic targets: all - Build all

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread don
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 06:42:38PM +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by hand, so I did: 1.-) moved config.gz to .config in new /usr/src/linux link 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:51:44 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make all make modules_install make all modules_install install from make help: [...]

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know - but I know that genkernel's config sucks. Why? I can make menuconfig and then: sudo genkernel --oldconfig --no-clean all or I can just hit 'coursor up' and return. ... make

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On 8/30/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, I used genkernel for compiling kernel in my home server. Yesterday I wanted to compile a new kernel, but this time by

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Ryan Sims
On 8/30/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:51:44 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 30. August 2007, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, 2.-) make oldconfig 3.-) make all make

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and no problems - and one app less that does strange things - or needs to get installed. again... you seem to not know what an initrd is good for bye This message was sent using

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and no problems - and one app less that does strange things - or needs to get installed. again... you seem to not know what an initrd is good for besides people using raid? if you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Norberto Bensa
Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if you don't have a strange setup (like raid), an initrd is good for nothing. $ mount /dev/dm-8 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime) got it?? oh, and you don't even need genkernel to have an initrd (gasp!). true... but have you tried to setup

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Personally, I find genkernel really nice (and yes I've got a raided setup)... but even if I didn't I'd still use it. As for those folks that don't like it, well ... it's optional! I guess if I were building kernels for Gentoo and (say) Centos systems, then I might want to use a method that

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel vs kernel manual compilation

2007-08-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Norberto Bensa wrote: Quoting Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if you don't have a strange setup (like raid), an initrd is good for nothing. $ mount /dev/dm-8 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime) got it?? as I said, 'strange setup' - but even that is not