[gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Coert Waagmeester
Hello all, Usually on gentoo when gentoo-sources gets updated, updating the kernel went as follows: eselect kernel set {new kernel} cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig and then there was a totally clean config which I would then customize for the specific setup. On one box I am currently

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Mick
On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 08:10:56 Coert Waagmeester wrote: Hello all, Usually on gentoo when gentoo-sources gets updated, updating the kernel went as follows: eselect kernel set {new kernel} cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig and then there was a totally clean config which I would then

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012 07:11:15 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 22 Feb 2012 00:22:27 Philip Webb wrote: 120222 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 22/02/12 00:34, Alex Schuster wrote: Mick writes: The latest stable x86 firefox fails to compile: [... big linking being done ...] collect2:

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Coert Waagmeester
On 02/23/2012 10:25 AM, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 08:10:56 Coert Waagmeester wrote: Hello all, Usually on gentoo when gentoo-sources gets updated, updating the kernel went as follows: eselect kernel set {new kernel} cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig and then there was a totally

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the kernel config files in /boot? I'd say it's more likely to be getting it from /proc/config.gz. But why start with a clean config each time? That means you have plenty of

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread William Kenworthy
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 10:10 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: Hello all, Usually on gentoo when gentoo-sources gets updated, updating the kernel went as follows: eselect kernel set {new kernel} cd /usr/src/linux make mrproper make menuconfig ... BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:04:36PM +, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick squawked: 2) Mask everything in an overlay except exactly what I actually want installed. The way I do this is to layman -a the overlay but not put it in make.conf. Then I symlink only the ebuilds I want to my local

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems : it needed 3,61 GB disk space for the link stage most/all of my 2 GB memory. Argh. 3.6 diskspace and 2G memory? I guess it is finally getting to the point that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Mick
On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems : it needed 3,61 GB disk space for the link stage most/all of my 2 GB memory. Argh. 3.6 diskspace

Re: [gentoo-user] Overlays - mask everything except a specific package?

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:19:03 +0100, Willie WY Wong wrote: The way I do this is to layman -a the overlay but not put it in make.conf. Then I symlink only the ebuilds I want to my local overlay. By symlinking instead of copying, I automatically get updates to that package. Neat! I

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Coert Waagmeester
On 02/23/2012 11:17 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the kernel config files in /boot? I'd say it's more likely to be getting it from /proc/config.gz. But why start with a clean config each

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:48:35 +0200 Coert Waagmeester lgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote: On 02/23/2012 11:17 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the kernel config files in /boot? I'd say

[gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
Historically, when an update to portage came available, portage would put it at the head of the list, build it first, then re-run emerge world command. I've seen lately that this no longer happens, portage updates are any old place in the list just like all other packages. I'm wondering why

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Coert Waagmeester
On 02/23/2012 01:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:48:35 +0200 Coert Waagmeesterlgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote: On 02/23/2012 11:17 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:51:43 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: The only thing I can currently think of is maybe the

Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:16:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Historically, when an update to portage came available, portage would put it at the head of the list, build it first, then re-run emerge world command. I've seen lately that this no longer happens, portage updates are any old place

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:16:41 +0200 Coert Waagmeester lgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote: Not doing it this way means a very high likelyhood of the machine not booting with every single upgrade, plus the huge amount of work it takes to go through everything in menuconfig. indeed,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Philip Webb
120223 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems : it needed 3,61 GB disk space for the link stage most/all of my 2 GB memory. Argh. 3.6 diskspace and 2G memory? I guess it is

Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:24:17 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:16:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Historically, when an update to portage came available, portage would put it at the head of the list, build it first, then re-run emerge world command.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:44:36AM +, Mick wrote I've only got something like 625M RAM and around 4G disk space (for var/portage). I used 750M from that 4G for adding swap. Eventually FF compiled fine. The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building from

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, February 23, 2012 12:25 pm, Alan McKinnon wrote: Just don't do what I did earlier: sit in Joburg and configure the firewall on a Xen host in deepest darkest Africa where there's no tarred roads to get to it. How did you get the server there? Flown it in? I've seen the roads in Africa

[gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-02-23 Thread Robin Atwood
I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have changed substantially since, I think. Using 'hcitool inq' works fine,

Re: [gentoo-user] Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

2012-02-23 Thread James Broadhead
On 23 February 2012 12:39, Robin Atwood robin.atw...@attglobal.net wrote: I have just tried to send a file from my phone to my laptop running KDE 4.8.0 and it fails; the two devices never bind. When I set up the laptop it was running KDE 4.6.3 and bluetooth worked fine. The BlueZ libraries have

Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:48:59PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: I'm not worried about broken portage commits, I have FEATURES=buildsyspkg enabled so as long as I have a working tar I'm good to go with any fix. Wait... isn't portage itself no longer in the system set? W --

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Coert Waagmeester lgro...@waagmeester.co.za wrote: On 02/23/2012 01:08 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: SNIP Is there a way to import old config files with newer kernel sources? I tried it once by simply copying .config into the newer src dir, but I read somewhere

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: alternative to thunderbird?

2012-02-23 Thread Juan Diego Tascón
+1 for sup On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Wednesday 22 February 2012 20:14:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: You'd have to read The Mythical ManMonth to truly do it justice (it's a really good book for developers btw). That book used to be

Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:07:46 +0100 Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 01:48:59PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: I'm not worried about broken portage commits, I have FEATURES=buildsyspkg enabled so as long as I have a working tar I'm good to

[gentoo-user] acpi_fakekey in portage or alternatives

2012-02-23 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Hello everybody, Does anybody know how to get acpi_fakekey on gentoo? Maybe there are ways to mimic the functionality via other methods? I wanted to make some more acpi keys working, but I do not know any other methods than acpi_fakekey. Thanks, Ignas

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
[snip] I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I have

[gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything. Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester? Any other tests to run? Nothing in dmesg. - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?  

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Heorhi Valakhanovich
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:17:54 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything. Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?  

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems : it needed 3,61 GB disk space for the link stage most/all of my 2 GB

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:17:54 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything. Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?  Any other tests to run?  Nothing in dmesg. Not definitively

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?  Any other tests to run?  Nothing in dmesg. - Grant Nah, most

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-23 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:10:45 -0800 schrieb Grant emailgr...@gmail.com: [snip] I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 21:42, Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building from source are constrained in resources to achieve this and have to resort to

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for a fee?

2012-02-23 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 02/17/2012 04:09 AM, Grant wrote: I'd like to pay to have an ebuild built. Can anyone recommend a way to get in touch with a good person for the job? ebuild doesn't equal ebuild: packaging java is different to packaging python software etc. find an existing ebuild similar to what you need

[gentoo-user] Setting Java VM for just one program

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
Hi list, Is there a way to set the Java VM based on program? For the most part I would like to keep icedtea-bin-7 as my system VM, but there is one program (jabref-2.6) which doesn't run well with java-7, but works fine with icedtea-bin-6. Is there a Gentoo way of setting this? Thanks,

Re: [gentoo-user] Genkernel 3.4.24 broken?

2012-02-23 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 02/06/2012 02:20 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I was just compiling my kernel using genkernel, and it seems genkernel 3.4.24 is broken. I have specified INSTALL=YES in /etc/genkernel.conf; the installtion does not happen, instead awk throws an error saying failed to read

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:22:27PM -0500, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: I compiled FF 10.0.1 on amd64 without any problems : it needed 3,61 GB disk space for the link stage

Re: [gentoo-user] screen locker

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
[snip] I've been using xautolock for years and years. What's good about it is you can have any 'locker' you want. For now, I'm using feh in slideshow mode. For another, you can specify another program as a 'killer' such as a suspend or hibernate script. However, for a traditional ss, I

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel and busybox

2012-02-23 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/24/2012 10:37 AM, András Csányi wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask what should I do in this case? I would like to make a new kernel using genkernel but there is no 1.8.1 version of busybox and it's not available in portage. To be honest I don't want to do a new kernel by hand

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:55:07PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras squawked: The PGO optimized build that Mozilla is shipping. You can also build with PGO from source, but that means building FF *twice* in a row (by enabling the pgo USE flag). I doubt that with the old laptop anyone

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 22:11, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building from source are constrained in resources to achieve this and have to resort to

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting Java VM for just one program

2012-02-23 Thread András Csányi
On 23 February 2012 21:13, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: Hi list, Is there a way to set the Java VM based on program? For the most part I would like to keep icedtea-bin-7 as my system VM, but there is one program (jabref-2.6) which doesn't run well with java-7, but works fine

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel and busybox

2012-02-23 Thread András Csányi
On 23 February 2012 21:16, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/24/2012 10:37 AM, András Csányi wrote: Dear All, I would like to ask what should I do in this case? I would like to make a new kernel using genkernel but there is no 1.8.1 version of busybox and it's not available in

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:47:03 -0800, Grant wrote: Parallel builds are not deterministic so if the Makefile allows a race condition to develop it's pot luck whether you'll be hit with it or not I got sick of stuff like that so I run MAKEOPTS=-j1 on all of my systems. If it were a

[gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! I've finally been pushed over the edge. I simply can't stand it any longer. The it in this case is viewing a file or process output and either: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the interesting part scroll away. To solve this

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 22:24, Willie WY Wong wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:55:07PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras squawked: The PGO optimized build that Mozilla is shipping. You can also build with PGO from source, but that means building FF *twice* in a row (by enabling the pgo USE flag).

[gentoo-user] No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-23 Thread James
Adobe has announce no more Flash on Linux. What the the (gentoo) plan for those of us that want to still view websites that use FLASH from a gentoo workstation (besides using chrome)? What are the work arounds for web surfing without FLASH support?

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 22:42, Alan Mackenzie wrote: I've set the threshold between the two cases at 60 lines. If your screen is a different size, change the two obvious bits. You can use the $LINES env variable to get the height of the current terminal. Another way to get them is with the tput

Re: [gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:00 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: If the subject is true, why does your dog have no man page? I've finally been pushed over the edge. I simply can't stand it any longer. The it in this case is viewing a file or process output and either: (a) using less, and have it

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 23/02/12 22:49, James wrote: Adobe has announce no more Flash on Linux. What the the (gentoo) plan for those of us that want to still view websites that use FLASH from a gentoo workstation (besides using chrome)? What are the work arounds for web surfing without FLASH support?

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
Parallel builds are not deterministic so if the Makefile allows a race condition to develop it's pot luck whether you'll be hit with it or not I got sick of stuff like that so I run MAKEOPTS=-j1 on all of my systems. If it were a frequent occurrence, there may be some benefit in that.

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
The gcc update just failed to compile on one of my systems with a segfault, but then succeeded after trying again even though I didn't change anything.  Does that indicate a hardware problem for sure? Should I run memtester?  Any other tests to run?  Nothing in dmesg. Not definitively

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP mprime ran for about 1.5 hours until it found this: [Work thread Feb 23 13:04] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4 [Work thread Feb 23 13:04] Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file. [Work

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Alex Schuster
Grant writes: I have a 1200 watt Corsair power supply and my temps are very low even during the stress test so I'm thinking bad (Corsair) RAM. I should remove modules one at a time and re-test to narrow it down? This sounds just like the right thing to do. Well, if you have four RAM chips,

Re: [gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the interesting part scroll away. (c) use less -F and less will automatically exit if the entire file can fit on one screen. One can export

Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
[snip] Things I would try: Go into BIOS and make sure settings are still proper (sometimes it can get wiped out and set to bad values) Make sure BIOS can see the HDD manufacturer and model number etc. If not, power off, re-seat the HDD cables and try again If yes, boot from liveCD and

Re: [gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: I've finally been pushed over the edge.  I simply can't stand it any longer.  The it in this case is viewing a file or process output and either: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and

Re: [gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: I've finally been pushed over the edge.  I simply can't stand it any longer.  The it in this case is viewing a file or process output and

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:46:03 -0800 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I get build failures with the load-adaptive MAKEOPTS and EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, I check the build log to see if it's relatively obvious that something was depended upon before it was built. If so, I file a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 23/02/12 21:42, Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for a fee?

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: On 02/17/2012 04:09 AM, Grant wrote: I'd like to pay to have an ebuild built.  Can anyone recommend a way to get in touch with a good person for the job? ebuild doesn't equal ebuild: packaging java is different to

[gentoo-user] KDE Replace Kwin with something else

2012-02-23 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Hello, I was wondering if anybody knows what USE flag should I enable in order to have the option to change the default WM in KDE settings to something else. I want to run Awesome WM on top of KDE and currently I can not do it from the KDE System Settings. I'd be very grateful if someone could

Re: [gentoo-user] dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Paul. On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 03:37:34PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: I've finally been pushed over the edge.  I simply can't stand it any

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc fails and then succeeds - definitely a problem?

2012-02-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Parallel builds are not deterministic so if the Makefile allows a race condition to develop it's pot luck whether you'll be hit with it or not I got sick of stuff like that so I run MAKEOPTS=-j1 on all of my systems. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:43:47PM +0200, Penguin Lover Nikos Chantziaras squawked: If you think it's worth the hassle, why not. Personally, the only reason I would build from source on such a slow system is to get a 64-bit build, since the -bin package seems to be 32-bit. That means the

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting Java VM for just one program

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:26:56PM +0100, Penguin Lover András Csányi squawked: On 23 February 2012 21:13, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: Hi list, Is there a way to set the Java VM based on program? For the most part I would like to keep icedtea-bin-7 as my system VM,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: Actually, why is it that upstream does not provide 64bit binaries? (It always bothers me to see my wife's Windows 7 machines running a copy of firefox marked, in parenthesis, 32 bit.) They're working on it... They

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: (32-bit will work for everyone, 64-bit won't) And of course by everyone I'm talking about Windows or Ubuntu users who download binaries from mozilla.org in the first place, not sophisticated pure-64-bit Gentoo

[gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: Actually, why is it that upstream does not provide 64bit binaries? (It always bothers me to see my wife's Windows 7 machines running

[gentoo-user] Re: This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 24/02/12 00:59, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Willie WY Wongwong...@member.ams.org wrote: Actually, why is it that upstream does not provide 64bit binaries? (It always bothers me to

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
Kevin Monceaux ke...@rawfeddogs.net writes: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the interesting part scroll away. (c) use less -F and less will automatically exit if the entire

Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: What is it about my systems wherein every one of these https links case my systems to barf with a This Connection is Untrusted message. If I remove the 's' then things work fine. https encompasses two basic functions:

Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 02:59:31PM -0800, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: They're working on it... They actually have started generating 64-bit nightly builds for Windows and Linux: https://nightly.mozilla.org/ What is it about my systems wherein every one of these https links case

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Willie WY Wong
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:24:29PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the interesting part scroll away. (c) use less -F and

[gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron

2012-02-23 Thread Harry Putnam
First my setup: Fairly basic (newish) install (noX) in a Virtual Box vm on windows7 host I'd like to hear some of the ways you all keep up with syncing and update world. Of course the basic call with cron is clear enough: eix-sync emerge -vuD world But what I mean is how you handle

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Kevin Monceaux ke...@rawfeddogs.net writes: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the interesting part scroll

Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron

2012-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: First my setup: Fairly basic (newish) install (noX) in a Virtual Box vm on windows7 host I'd like to hear some of the ways you all keep up with syncing and update world. I personally run it all manually and never

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Replace Kwin with something else

2012-02-23 Thread Mick
On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 21:54:07 Ignas Anikevicius wrote: Hello, I was wondering if anybody knows what USE flag should I enable in order to have the option to change the default WM in KDE settings to something else. I want to run Awesome WM on top of KDE and currently I can not do it from

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 22:11, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building from source are constrained in resources to achieve

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 24/02/12 02:34, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 22:11, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building from source are

Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: What is it about my systems wherein every one of these https links case my systems to barf with a This Connection is Untrusted message. If

Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates

2012-02-23 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 23 February 2012 11:48:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: I prefer to update portage first, just in case it co-coincides with some update to the tree pedantic old fart mode ON What does co-coincides mean? I know that various versions of English exist out there, but this one has me foxed. --

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Replace Kwin with something else

2012-02-23 Thread Alex Schuster
Ignas Anikevicius writes: I was wondering if anybody knows what USE flag should I enable in order to have the option to change the default WM in KDE settings to something else. I want to run Awesome WM on top of KDE and currently I can not do it from the KDE System Settings. This has nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] KDE Replace Kwin with something else

2012-02-23 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
On 24/02/12 02:01, Alex Schuster wrote: I find metacity.desktop and openbox.desktop in /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/windowmanagers/, so I guess you have to find awesome.desktop, and put it there. Or create such a file yourself like suggestend in the link above. Thank you very much. Copying to

[gentoo-user] Midori and Flash

2012-02-23 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! I am using all kinds of web browsers. Firefox for sites I always want to have open. Konqueror when I start a browser from scratch to look something up. Chromium is also running, Mainly because I had trouble with Firefox opening one window on another desktop. Now I'd also like to use

[gentoo-user] favorite smartctl test?

2012-02-23 Thread Grant
I'm trying to figure out how far gone an old Maxtor HD of mine is. It does have S.M.A.R.T. support. Is there a favorite smartctl command for making this determination? 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' says: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED and: ATA Error Count: 116 Is a

Re: [gentoo-user] This Connection is Untrusted: WAS: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Carter
In all of those cases above, if you allowed the connection it would still be SSL encrypted. You'd be protected against packet sniffers but not against man-in-the-middle attack. And the reason someone will man-in-the-middle you, is so they can sniff your traffic and get passwords or other

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-23 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:43:11 -0600 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org wrote: Actually, why is it that upstream does not provide 64bit binaries? (It always bothers me to see my wife's Windows 7 machines

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-23 Thread Philip Webb
120223 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 22:49, James wrote: Adobe has announce no more Flash on Linux. The real news is no more Flash on Linux in 5 years. Isn't HTML 5 due to replace Flash long before then ? -- ,,

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-23 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 24/02/12 05:22, Philip Webb wrote: 120223 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 23/02/12 22:49, James wrote: Adobe has announce no more Flash on Linux. The real news is no more Flash on Linux in 5 years. Isn't HTML 5 due to replace Flash long before then ? It's not compatible with Flash, so no;

Re: [gentoo-user] A few suggestions for emerge world via cron

2012-02-23 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Feb 24, 2012 7:18 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: First my setup: Fairly basic (newish) install (noX) in a Virtual Box vm on windows7 host I'd like to hear some of the ways you all keep up with syncing and update world. Of course the basic call with cron is clear enough:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-23 Thread pk
On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. It's only guaranteed if flash is

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