[gentoo-user] Re: Cdrtools installation without suid root

2013-04-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 26/04/13 23:20, Joerg Schilling wrote: The only problem I see is that you are able to remove important software on a Linux installation while the kernel still supports the feature by default. You are not able to remove it if something actually uses it. If you remove the automagic

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Saturday 27 April 2013 07:06:41 AM IST, Grant wrote: My wife and I recently visited Vanuatu (island of Santo) and fell in love with it. We got to know some locals pretty well and everybody is pining for laptops. Internet service is becoming widely available due to Digicel and TVL cell phone

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-27 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: 'evening, Mark. On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:41:01PM +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff yks-...@yandex.ru wrote: In the end, I humbly believe it's up to me to judge what effect

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:05:06 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I think the problem there is a Chromebook needs to be online in order to do much of anything, and the connection needs to be fast in order to make them very functional. Plus most people are paying by the MB in Vanuatu and a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:20:08 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: No it wouldn't - DST makes it darker in the morning. When I was about 11, the government experimented with using BST all year round. One of the reasons given for not doing it was that kids would have to go to school in the dark.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 27, 2013 4:02 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:05:06 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: I think the problem there is a Chromebook needs to be online in order to do much of anything, and the connection needs to be fast in order to make them very

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 03:36, Grant wrote: My wife and I recently visited Vanuatu (island of Santo) and fell in love with it. We got to know some locals pretty well and everybody is pining for laptops. Internet service is becoming widely available due to Digicel and TVL cell phone signals but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2013 23:28, Nick Khamis wrote: On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/04/2013 19:11, Nick Khamis wrote: Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much trouble/unstable to setup

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 03:20, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 26 April 2013 22:43:10 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow

Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 05:44, Andrew Lowe wrote: Get over it and enjoy the extra hour in the evening. But then again I'm in Australia where [snip here] OK, stop right there. I see where the disconnect comes in. You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a lot there. I am in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 00:11, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote: Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-) I

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-27 Thread Randy Barlow
I've been a little surprised at some of the posts in this thread. As some others have pointed out, I do not believe it is fair to state that anyone is forcing you to use any particular software (such as PulseAudio, or udev), as it is your choice to use Linux or not in the first place. Why do these

[gentoo-user] Router takes too long to assign IP address

2013-04-27 Thread Mick
Hi All, At the title says, I have a laptop that seems to take too long to get an IPv4 address from my home router. Other machines on the same LAN that have static IP addresses do not seem to suffer this way. I have tried to configure /etc/conf.d/net to use a specific IP address for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not fun. DST would have helped. But

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 18:24, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-04-26 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock.

Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: You are in Australia. The sun happens to shine in Australia. It shines a lot there. I am in South Africa. The sun happens to shine a lot in South Africa. It shines a lot here. Neil is in England. The sun never shines in England. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 12:24:53 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But what would make more sense (at least in my mind) would be to have official 'working hours' changes, and adjust those, rather than change the clocks - ie, in your example, instead of school starting at 9:00am, it switches to start at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2013 23:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wasn't born here in Africa and didn't spend primary school years here either. But I distinctly recall having to walk to school in the snow and in the dark to geet their before 9 o'clock. Not

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Grant
I think the problem there is a Chromebook needs to be online in order to do much of anything, and the connection needs to be fast in order to make them very functional. Plus most people are paying by the MB in Vanuatu and a Chromebook must use a fair amount of data even on a fast

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Grant
My wife and I recently visited Vanuatu (island of Santo) and fell in love with it. We got to know some locals pretty well and everybody is pining for laptops. Internet service is becoming widely available due to Digicel and TVL cell phone signals but I didn't meet anyone with a real

Re: [gentoo-user] can't mount ext4 fs as est3 or ext3

2013-04-27 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Apr 26 2013, Andrea Conti wrote: Hi, EXT3-fs (sda5): error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240) /dev/sda5/ ext4noatime,discard 0 1 When first mounting the root filesystem the kernel has no access to /etc/fstab and therefore by

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/04/2013 20:45, Grant wrote: *Someone* has all those netbooks that Westeners ditched in favour of iCraps, I recommend you look into who is now selling them 2nd hand. I should look to eBay, right? I reckon that's a good start. There are other companies around that sell refurbed

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-27 Thread Dale
Randy Barlow wrote: SNIP I will divulge that I happen to like Gnome and PulseAudio, and so consider me biased. I did find the /usr thing with udev to be kind of inconvenient since I did happen to have a separate /usr, but I dealt with it and am grateful to have a free udev that I can use.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Grant
*Someone* has all those netbooks that Westeners ditched in favour of iCraps, I recommend you look into who is now selling them 2nd hand. I should look to eBay, right? I reckon that's a good start. There are other companies around that sell refurbed machines, check those out too. I have no

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} laptops for a developing country (Vanuatu)

2013-04-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 Apr 2013 22:09:38 Grant wrote: *Someone* has all those netbooks that Westeners ditched in favour of iCraps, I recommend you look into who is now selling them 2nd hand. I should look to eBay, right? I reckon that's a good start. There are other companies around

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-27 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 15:13 -0500, Dale wrote: I dealt with udev too. I switched to something that doesn't force me to chose having /usr on / or having a init thingy. Since I switched, I can have /usr on its own partition and not have a init thingy. Having options worked very well. Not

[gentoo-user] why my system is keeping old kernel around?

2013-04-27 Thread Joseph
When I run depclean, it prints out: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources selected: 3.6.11 protected: none omitted: 2.6.31-r6 2.6.36-r5 3.7.10-r1 ll /usr/src/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Feb 26 12:35 linux - linux-3.6.11-gentoo The system is using kernel 3.6.11; so I'll keep it. But why it

Re: [gentoo-user] why my system is keeping old kernel around?

2013-04-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: When I run depclean, it prints out: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources selected: 3.6.11 protected: none omitted: 2.6.31-r6 2.6.36-r5 3.7.10-r1 ll /usr/src/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Feb 26 12:35 linux -