Re: [gentoo-user] Errors in nonexistent partitions

2020-09-14 Thread antlists
On 14/09/2020 08:48, Peter Humphrey wrote: Just before this started, I booted Win-10 on /dev/sdb and ran its update process. I don't use it for anything at the moment, just keeping it up to date in case I ever do. I do this most weeks, but is it possible that Win-10 tampered in some way that it

Re: [gentoo-user] Errors in nonexistent partitions

2020-09-13 Thread antlists
On 13/09/2020 11:17, Peter Humphrey wrote: Morning all, My ~amd64 system uses partitions 1 to 18 on /dev/nvme0n1, and it has two SATA disks as well, for various purposes. Today, after I'd taken the system down for its weekly backup (I tar all the partitions to a USB disk) and started up again,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to switch from rust to rust-bin?

2020-09-09 Thread antlists
On 09/09/2020 00:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: That's the sort of thing I was thinking of. It could cause issues for those that run emerge without checking what it is going to do, but they are going to hit problems sometime anyway so they may as well learn their lesson sooner;-) Hmm, I hadn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync rules question

2020-10-14 Thread antlists
On 14/10/2020 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, for more instant updates, you could look at net-p2p/syncthing. Not sure what you use for it, but there are mirrored filesystems that run over a network. So the two systems will update in sync if they're both switched on, or will defer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tried desktop profile

2020-10-14 Thread antlists
On 14/10/2020 19:58, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-10-14, antlists wrote: Does your mobo support NVMe drives? Just be aware my mobo is crap in that it says it supports two graphics cards, NVMe, etc, but if you stick an NVMe in the second graphics card is disabled, or if you use both the NVMe

Re: [gentoo-user] tried desktop profile

2020-10-13 Thread antlists
On 13/10/2020 17:52, Jude DaShiell wrote: Let's see if this is a correct bottom post. I've never seen anything in this life. Eyes never developed enough for me to see. Perfect, great! Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tried desktop profile

2020-10-15 Thread antlists
On 15/10/2020 17:31, Jack wrote: On 2020.10.15 00:03, Wols Lists wrote: On 14/10/20 22:37, Jack wrote: Why do you need two graphics cards?  I've been driving two monitors off each of the last several graphics cards I've used - both nVidia and ATI, from simple PCI to PCIE needing the extra

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tried desktop profile

2020-10-15 Thread antlists
On 15/10/2020 21:07, Jack wrote: However, and I have no experience here, although some systems can boot in BIOS mode to a GPT partitioned disk, there may be extra hoops to jump through.  I'm sure others will chime in with additional information. I don't think my current system has EFI, and it

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID: new drive on aac raid

2020-10-06 Thread antlists
On 05/10/2020 17:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 05.10.20 um 17:19 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: So my issue seems to be: non-working arcconf doesn't let me "enable" that one drive. Some kind of progress. Searched for more and older releases of arcconf, found Version 1.2 that doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd versus fixed IP addresses

2020-10-04 Thread antlists
On 04/10/2020 22:17, Michael wrote: Random (guest) devices connected to the router will still be allocated dynamically some IP address by its dhcp server, typically starting from 2 and incremented from there. Since most of your devices IP addresses start from the top it's unlikely there'll be

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my emerge -u?

2020-10-11 Thread antlists
On 11/10/2020 21:55, n952162 wrote: I ran into this: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1108636-start-0.html but I really don't understand anything about these alternative instruction sets and would think my CPU is pretty vanilla. I mean, I hope to avoid trail-and-error approaches to

Re: [gentoo-user] Errors in nonexistent partitions - FIXED

2020-10-19 Thread antlists
On 19/10/2020 12:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: Mystery solved. It was a disk failure: a 256GB NVMe drive. It was 4.5 years old, which doesn't seem a long life to me. Doesn't sound old, but if it breaks in the fault-tolerance-management area, then you're stuffed. Bit like old MFM (pre-IDE) drives

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-10-09 Thread antlists
On 09/10/2020 20:19, Jude DaShiell wrote: available profiles eselect profile list returns three profiles I might use all in the 17.0 version number. stable, desktop, and desktop-gnome. I suspect stable would return a console environment, desktop-gnome would get a gnome desktop, but how is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] rsync rules question

2020-10-14 Thread antlists
On 14/10/2020 14:58, Walter Dnes wrote: I'd like to keep my "hot backup" machine more up-to-date. The most important directory is my home directory. So far, I've been doing occasional tarballs of my home directory and pushing them over. I exclude some directories for "reasons". I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-user] tried desktop profile

2020-10-14 Thread antlists
On 14/10/2020 18:38, Jude DaShiell wrote: Let's see, yes that was a typo, those ssd disks are each 120GB and unfortunately the Alien ATX case used only has room for one of them. However external ssd drives are on the market. Does your mobo support NVMe drives? Just be aware my mobo is crap in

Re: [gentoo-user]

2020-08-17 Thread antlists
On 17/08/2020 13:11, Dale wrote: We put all the keywords in emails with white letters and a white background. And how do I do that when I use plain latin-1 (or unicode) emails ... ? Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-28 Thread antlists
On 26/08/2020 19:51, Grant Taylor wrote: Just because it's possible to force something to use HTTP(S) does not mean that it's a good idea to do so. The main reason other applications use "TCP over HTTP(S)" is because stupid network operators block everything else! Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-28 Thread antlists
On 26/08/2020 18:40, Grant Taylor wrote: On 8/21/20 10:15 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: just to double check i got you right.  due to flushing the buffer to disk, this would mean that mail's throughput is limited by disk i/o? Yes. This speed limitation is viewed as a necessary limitation

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-28 Thread antlists
On 26/08/2020 21:21, Grant Taylor wrote: so basically total expected number of protocols/layers used in the universe, per second, will be much less if we, on planet earth, use a mail system that uses HTTP* instead of RESXCH_*. I obviously disagree. Exactly. You now need a protocol/layer

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-28 Thread antlists
On 28/08/2020 20:34, J. Roeleveld wrote: Cheers, Wol I think you meant that Caveman doesn't understand what TCP (and UDP) actually is. Grant does seem to know what he is talking about. Sorry yes I did. I got rather confused ... not surprising really :-) Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?

2020-08-28 Thread antlists
On 28/08/2020 19:10, james wrote: A council member, from say England, could manage how 1/2 of what they raise is spent. It could even "english centric" but must comply with USA IRS standards. Our council could be expanded to many members, from other countries, with a centic goal of spending

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to switch back to AMD?

2020-08-19 Thread antlists
On 19/08/2020 04:44, Grant Edwards wrote: How are the AMD "Wraith Stealth" fans? I've been using the fan that came with the old Core-i3, and it gets a little annoying when it's time to compile chromium (or when flying planes/helicopters). If you're talking about what I think you are, I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-20 Thread antlists
On 19/08/2020 16:19, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:10 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: Per protocol specification, SMTP is EXTREMELY robust. It will retry delivery, nominally once an hour, for up to five (or seven) days. That's 120-168

Re: [gentoo-user] Getting past captchas with vision issues.

2020-09-29 Thread antlists
On 29/09/2020 09:02, Dale wrote: If Seamonkey dies, I have no idea what I'm going to do for emails.  I got emails going back to when I first started using the internet.  Heck, I may have the first email I ever sent.  o_O  Whatever I use, I hope I can import or just copy them over.  Otherwise,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there any Gentoo User webinar? or something like that?

2020-09-30 Thread antlists
On 30/09/2020 15:57, Grant Edwards wrote: If you wait many months between updates, things tend to get more difficult, and you may have to futz with things to get updated (e.g. remove a package or two, update, then reinstall the removed packages). It's sometimes not obvious how to proceed. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-27 Thread antlists
On 27/05/2020 01:44, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a few different pi's and similar Odroid arm systems running Gentoo on sdcards - the failure rate is a real and constant problem (and seems worse on pi's no matter what brand/type of sdcard so keep an up to date spare+backups) and I am thinking

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-26 Thread antlists
On 26/05/2020 19:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2020 19:14:18 +0100, antlists wrote: That's the Gentoo version that I'm using. But I'm looking for a way to make it bullet-proof to having the plug pulled. Don't use an SD card? Seriously, pulling the power on an SD card has been

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-26 Thread antlists
On 26/05/2020 19:27, Neil Bothwick wrote: This will mitigate the reduced life as you are hardly writing to the card. Booting from a read-only / has caused problems for me in the past, because of the inability to write to /etc. Well, if we can get a loopback into the boot sequence before you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo RPi boot to ram or read-only FS?

2020-05-26 Thread antlists
On 26/05/2020 18:28, Frank Tarczynski wrote: That's the Gentoo version that I'm using. But I'm looking for a way to make it bullet-proof to having the plug pulled. Don't use an SD card? Seriously, pulling the power on an SD card has been known to corrupt it beyond recovery. BUT. Is the big

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 16:43, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:32 AM Michael wrote: An interesting article mentioning WD Red NAS drives which may actually be SMRs and how latency increases when cached writes need to be transferred into SMR blocks. Yeah, there is a lot of background on

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 18:20, Rich Freeman wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM antlists wrote: What puzzles me (or rather, it doesn't, it's just cost cutting), is why you need a *dedicated* cache zone anyway. Stick a left-shift register between the LBA track and the hard drive, and by switching

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate ST8000NM0065 PMR or SMR plus NAS SAS SATA question

2020-05-22 Thread antlists
On 22/05/2020 19:23, Rich Freeman wrote: A big problem with drive-managed SMR is that it basically has to assume the OS is dumb, which means most writes are in-place with no trims, assuming the drive even supports trim. I think the problem with the current WD Reds is, in part, that the ATA-4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Your opinion on jpeg encoders, please

2021-01-11 Thread antlists
On 11/01/2021 19:26, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: I don’t really live the RAW way. They take up sooo much space and my camera’s OOC jpegs always look far nicer than anything I can produce with darktable/rawtherapee. Okay, dunno about your Olympus stuff, but my Nikon cameras, the Nikon software

Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland side-effect?

2020-12-27 Thread antlists
On 27/12/2020 18:51, Michael wrote: Restarting the desktop using Xorg does NOT fix this problem. Otherwise, both Plasma on Wayland and Xorg work fine - except the clipboard does not work on Wayland (middle click won't paste selected text on another window). This sounds to me like a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Your opinion on jpeg encoders, please

2021-01-07 Thread antlists
On 07/01/2021 02:22, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/01/2021 23:37, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: However I noticed that the latter procuces larger files for the same quality setting. So currently, I first save with a very high setting from Showfoto and then recompress the whole directory in a

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 15:17, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:55 AM Wols Lists wrote: On 25/11/20 13:31, Rich Freeman wrote: Now, one area I would use UUIDs is with mdadm if you're not putting lvm on top. I've seen mdadm arrays get renumbered and that is a mess if you're directly

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 15:13, Dale wrote: I can't think of a reason not to use labels, at the very least, in most situations.  The only one I can think of, a laptop that has only one hard drive.  Sort of hard to install two hard drives on a laptop.  A external one can be done but never seen one with two

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 22:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:37:48 -0600, Dale wrote: First I've heard of a laptop having space for two hard drives.  I need to make a note of that.  Now one has reason to use labels on laptops too.  o_O You already have. what if you boot with a flash drive

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub and multiple distros on LVM [was duplicate gentoo system ...]

2020-11-25 Thread antlists
On 25/11/2020 23:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 19:37:32 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: I'm not sure chainloading would work as that requires a drive definition from which to load the boot sector. I thought that's what LVM provided was a drive definition. It's more like a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread antlists
On 06/12/2020 07:55, Martin Vaeth wrote: Dale wrote: It sounds like a rather rare problem. Maybe even only during boot up. It is a non-existent problem on openrc if you clean /tmp and /var/tmp on boot (which you should do if you use opentmp): Which breaks a lot of STANDARDS-COMPLIANT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-06 Thread antlists
On 06/12/2020 12:54, Rich Freeman wrote: I think the idea of having something more cross-platform is a good one, though there is nothing really about systemd that isn't "open" - it is FOSS. It just prioritizes using linux syscalls where they are useful over implementing things in a way that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread antlists
On 07/12/2020 18:21, Jack wrote: I do an emerge -C --oneshot to uninstall those packages. That way, when emerge finally starts to update world, it pulls them all back (at least, the ones that are needed) itself without me needing to worry about it. I don't think the --oneshot is doing

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-03 Thread antlists
On 03/12/2020 20:33, n952162 wrote: I'm trying to update the gentoo system that I last updated 6 weeks ago, but it seems not to work.  Can somebody explain to me why? I've got a similar problem - an "emerge --sync" said "portage has been updated, you really should emerge it first before doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Determine what's keeping Python 3.7 around?

2020-12-07 Thread antlists
On 07/12/2020 14:30, Grant Edwards wrote: I ended up uninstalling packages mentioned in those 150 lines 2-3 at a time and until emerge was willing to update world. After that I guess I start trying to re-install what was removed. I do an emerge -C --oneshot to uninstall those packages. That

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-24 Thread antlists
On 24/11/2020 16:51, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-11-24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 16:38:59 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But actual partitions? Yes. Each with a separate Linux distro installed. Perhaps you can do that with a volume manager instead of partitions (using

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread antlists
On 23/11/2020 10:37, Michael wrote: Have you changed the UUIDs on the new partitions? Never used UUID in fstab. Do I just run: blkid|grep UUID and copy it to fstab. I warned you about UUIDs. The block device of /dev/sda* could be pointing at a partition either on the old, or the new disk.

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system - errors

2020-11-23 Thread antlists
On 23/11/2020 20:25, Mark Knecht wrote: > I agree on labels, they are far more readable. But I'm starting to think > that duplicating partitions like this is asking for trouble. I think it > would be better to create the partitions and filesystems you want on the > new disk, then mount both

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

2020-12-04 Thread antlists
On 04/12/2020 01:40, Dale wrote: Also, our local power company is about to start rolling out internet service.  It's done with fiber and the slowest package, 200MBs/sec, is over 100 times faster than my current DSL.  It only costs $4.00 a month more than what I'm paying now.  Their fastest

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-04 Thread antlists
On 04/12/2020 08:53, Arve Barsnes wrote: There seems to be some python3_6 and even python2_7 in your error output, maybe you have set some older python targets somewhere that you've forgotten about? Or maybe he hasn't set any and the defaults are wrong? I'm guessing that's the case with me.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sendmail configuration

2020-11-26 Thread antlists
On 26/11/2020 04:09, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2020-11-26, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Thank you for input. Maybe that is why it is so hard to find good explanation/howto how to configure it. The config file looks very simple, that is I decided to try it. Ah, that's another devine

Re: [gentoo-user] new install for a new mainboard?

2020-12-11 Thread antlists
On 10/12/2020 21:18, n952162 wrote: On 12/10/20 7:18 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:23 AM n952162 wrote: I need a new mainboard.  What will happen if I boot my existing system on it? Is the CPU going to be the same?  The responses already cover the mainboard itself well. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread antlists
On 21/12/2020 12:53, Dale wrote: Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is it true that I can hook a NAS to the router? I think my router has 4 yellow and 1 red port. The yellow ports are, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 17:32, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:02:23 -0600, Dale wrote: I have another question related to LVM.  Let's say a system crashes and dies.  Or I just move a drive, or drives, with LVM on it to another system.  Does the system just recognize the drives

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote: -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug almost like USB but full SATA feature set and speed (e.g. SMART). Buy add-in sata cards. The ones I've been looking

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 16:51, David Haller wrote: The power supply was replaced a few years ago.  I may buy a new one that is a little bit larger. It has a 300 watt now, a 400 watt would give some breathing room for start up power for the extra drives.  I haven't measured the wattage it pulls now.  May

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] How do I remove pam during/after an install.

2020-12-20 Thread antlists
On 20/12/2020 02:19, John Covici wrote: OK, pardon my ignorance, what is wrong with pam? Aside from the fact that when you change versions you have to reboot or restart just about everything. There's a lot of people out there (like me) who've never had the (mis?)fortune to deal with it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread antlists
On 20/12/2020 01:06, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Looking at 4 TB WD drives as an example, the cheapest SAS drive started at 145 €, but a WD RED NAS drive (intended for uninterrupted operation) at 93 €. BEWARE OF WD REDS !!! They *U*S*E*D* to have a good reputation. They are STILL marketed as

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommended location of the Gentoo ebuild repository

2020-12-16 Thread antlists
On 16/12/2020 14:58, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 7:46 AM gevisz > wrote: > Nevertheless, the explanation why /var/db/repos/gentoo is better than > /usr/portage is still welcomed. :) Community opinion mostly:

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware - memory problem

2020-12-16 Thread antlists
On 16/12/2020 22:34, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:29 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:22 PM > wrote: >> >> I run Memtest86 on my old box and it completed 1pass without any errors. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade an old system

2020-12-14 Thread antlists
On 14/12/2020 22:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 15:18:19 -0700, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Moving forward like a snail. Unmerged portage to local directory and running: ./portage-portage-3.0.12/bin/emerge -1 portage gives me two blockers: [blocks B ] Probably not. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-14 Thread antlists
On 14/12/2020 12:55, n952162 wrote: On 12/14/20 11:17 AM, Wols Lists wrote: On 14/12/20 08:51, Dale wrote: If you are able, maybe you can compile the bigger packages on a faster system?  If it is a option, it may help. If I have multiple similar machines, I create a shared a shared local

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors

2020-12-14 Thread antlists
On 14/12/2020 18:55, Walter Dnes wrote: But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has VGA and DVI-D. I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep the "hot backup" machine up-to-date. What are my options? For the main machine I'll buy an HDMI cable. Are

Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why

2020-12-13 Thread antlists
On 13/12/2020 21:02, n952162 wrote: My problem is I can't find a diagnostic methodology.  The one I most often hear is, update more often, or trail and error solutions. Although I haven't yet had the grief of something like this python thing, I've always found that unmerging everything that

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread antlists
On 20/12/2020 13:20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: There is a saying in German tech culture: "Entweder sie geht oder sie geht nicht." (either it works or it doesn't). The pun is on the pronunciation of "sie geht" (it works), which sounds exactly like Seagate. → "Either Seagate or Seagate... not."

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is a USB-key-to-hard-drive-tap-dance-boot possible?

2020-12-26 Thread antlists
On 25/12/2020 18:24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 11:41:03 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: After 20 years on linux, I've been reduced to a newbie. BIOS boot, Lilo, and fdisk served me well for 2 decades. Now I'm going to have to learn UEFI, grub, and parted all at once. I'll start

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo handbook

2020-11-14 Thread antlists
On 14/11/2020 18:48, Jude DaShiell wrote: Probably the cause for me running into so much difficulty converting from openrc to systemd is there is no path for systems using systemd unless they're using uefi and going multi-user also, I tried doing the conversion during installation and not as a

Re: [gentoo-user] duplicate gentoo system

2020-11-18 Thread antlists
On 18/11/2020 11:22, Michael wrote: However, if you really want to have your /home directory on the same partition as / then a step by step approach could be: One big problem with /home on / is that a rogue luser can DoS your system by filling the disk. Same reason you should keep /var on a

Re: [gentoo-user] startx Cannot open virtual console 7

2020-10-30 Thread antlists
On 27/10/2020 20:09, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:05:28AM -0400, Jack wrote From one of your earlier posts, it looks like tty0-tty9 all exist. My guess is that getty was launched on all of them. Since that is owned by root (until someone logs in) you certainly don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Red jack and white jack on a pair of headphones

2020-10-21 Thread antlists
On 21/10/2020 16:43, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Thanks for the tip! It turns out the white plug is for the earphones, and the red one for the microphone. And yes, they were too cheap to use two styles of plugs. Actually, it's so that they can use multi-purpose sockets. I can't remember quite

Re: [gentoo-user] ncurses; I think I wrecked my fresh install

2020-12-30 Thread antlists
On 30/12/2020 16:35, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: I don't know if this has improved over the years, but my initial experience with unicode was rather negative. The fact that text files were twice as large wasn't a major problem in itself. The real showstopper was that importing text files into

Re: [gentoo-user] ncurses; I think I wrecked my fresh install

2020-12-30 Thread antlists
On 30/12/2020 17:30, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: That's true, though registrars are filtering for it now. Also, I just checked, e.g. firefox always builds with unicode support (it would have trouble with a lot of websites otherwise). (: ˙˙˙ǝpoɔᴉun sǝop oslɐ ʇuǝᴉlɔ lᴉɐɯ ɹnoʎ uǝɥʇ ¿sᴉɥʇ pɐǝɹ noʎ

Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird - Unable to save your message as a draft.

2021-01-05 Thread antlists
On 04/01/2021 20:18, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: With Thunderbird-78.6.0 I'm getting an error message when composing messages: Unable to save your message as a draft. Sending of the message failed. What is the solution? I've run onto few of them but they are mostly for Windows users not

Re: [gentoo-user] resizing and moving home directory to new partition on save drive

2021-01-10 Thread antlists
On 10/01/2021 21:42, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I want to move /home directory to a new partition (save drive). I have 1-SSD drive: Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% /dev/sda4 916G 405G 464G 47% / Home directory is on it taking about 360GB I was planning doing it in stages.

Re: [gentoo-user] preventing some IP's from from being logged in apache

2021-01-12 Thread antlists
On 12/01/2021 17:11, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: I wish they design blocking by country easier. Unfortunately, IPv4 in particular, blocking by country is pretty much impossible because - due to demand pressure - addresses are scattered pretty much randomly. Especially with class A or B

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-25 Thread antlists
On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 Michael wrote: On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical login. When I set my old system

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sysrescue+new asus mobo+secure boot=0

2021-05-13 Thread antlists
On 13/05/2021 00:51, John Blinka wrote: And it appears your intuition is correct.  I left all the “secure boot” options in the bios at their defaults except one.  I changed “OS Type” from “Windows UEFI mode” to “Other OS”.  That was sufficient to boot from my Sysrescue usb. One other little

Re: [gentoo-user] one machine out of many has nothing to update

2021-05-06 Thread antlists
On 06/05/2021 01:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: For the sake of speed and bandwidth saving, I used to sync both tree and distfiles between my hosts. When I had two machines, the second just nfs-mounted the first's repository. So updating one updated the other at the same time :-) Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Dual booting with Windows 10

2021-05-25 Thread antlists
On 25/05/2021 16:23, Peter Humphrey wrote: 4. I have the existing ESP mounted on /boot. It belongs to Windows and cannot be enlarged beyond 100MB. I don't know how this works, but I installed Windows 10 and SUSE dual-boot. SUSE installed a second 500MB ESP, and it works. Somehow the system

Re: [gentoo-user] Qustions re Dell M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drives under Gentoo

2021-06-02 Thread antlists
On 28/05/2021 17:17, Walter Dnes wrote: Anything with spinning disk "is obsolete" they are trying to give it way because nobody is buying them (you can buy them for few dollars), don't expect it to last long. I've never had a hard drive fail on me. That includes a 2008 core2 duo that I

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-07-03 Thread antlists
On 03/07/2021 12:00, Tamer Higazi wrote: Hi Wol, If I am you, I would install "mate" desktop, which is basicly gnome2 and gnome transition to wayland is as much as I know completed. XFCE is a bit behind, that takes a time ... My make.conf contains "-gtk -gnome". I have ABSOLUTELY NO plans

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-25 Thread antlists
On 25/06/2021 09:46, Michael wrote: On Friday, 25 June 2021 08:50:32 BST antlists wrote: On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 Michael wrote: On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? I want

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using an odd number of drives in ZFS RaidZ

2021-07-01 Thread antlists
On 01/07/2021 14:47, Robert David wrote: Hi Frank, In any of my data arrays I have long time migrated off the RAIDZ to the MIRROR or RAID10. You will find finally that the RAIDZ is slow and not very flexible. Only think you gain is the extra space in constrained array spaces. For RAID10 it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using an odd number of drives in ZFS RaidZ

2021-07-01 Thread antlists
On 01/07/2021 00:31, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Antlist made a similar suggestion using external USB, and I gave a more detailed answer in reply to his mail. I've got this ... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072J52TR1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8=1 It's eSATA not USB. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] system.map file in /boot. How to manage?

2021-07-01 Thread antlists
On 01/07/2021 15:41, Dale wrote: I do copy mine manually.  It's how it was done when I first started using Gentoo and I just stuck with it, it works.  It's just one additional file. I copied my kernels manually to start with. Then I discovered "make install". (and "make modules_install").

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-26 Thread antlists
On 26/06/2021 10:28, Michael wrote: On Saturday, 26 June 2021 08:19:24 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 26/06/21 00:51, Michael wrote: Given your error, you appear to not have installed the requisite packages for the Plasma/KDE. It should have been installed as a dependency of plasma-workspace:

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-27 Thread antlists
On 27/06/2021 11:36, Michael wrote: On Sunday, 27 June 2021 10:05:59 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 21/06/21 16:17, Michael wrote: Have you tried using a Display Manager? Some of my systems won't work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get with them is a black screen.

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-28 Thread antlists
On 26/06/2021 13:00, Michael wrote: On Saturday, 26 June 2021 11:50:01 BST antlists wrote: I just want a working systemd/wayland desktop system. So basically, a full-weight normal desktop. [snip ...] I've got this one selected, /desktop/plasma/systemd Select default/linux/amd64/17.1

Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-27 Thread antlists
On 27/06/2021 16:14, Jack wrote: I noticed that one post mentioned /dev/card1 and the other talked about /dev/dri/card0.  If the former was not a typo omitting /dri/ then that might be something to check out. The former was a what I remembered ... quite possibly wrong ... :-) Cheers, Wol

[gentoo-user] Multi-user login manager

2021-07-12 Thread antlists
Two problems - I would like to run without X, but it seems that the greeters need X to run ... Also I want to run a multi-user system. I know you can put multiple monitors on one graphics card, and that gives you a multi-head system, but I've got TWO graphics cards. I want to plug in two

Re: [gentoo-user] [FIXED] New install - Wayland and graphical login

2021-06-29 Thread antlists
On 29/06/2021 10:44, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:49:49 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 28/06/21 20:23, antlists wrote: On 26/06/2021 13:00, Michael wrote: X11 will ask for twm if there is no other Window Manager available, or a Display Environment not configured. Have you sorted

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Using an odd number of drives in ZFS RaidZ

2021-06-30 Thread antlists
On 29/06/2021 14:56, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Hello fellows This is not really a Gentoo question, but at least my NAS (which this mail is about) is running Gentoo. :) There are some people amongst this esteemed group that know their stuff about storage and servers and things, so I thought I

Re: [gentoo-user] Rusty problems

2021-04-28 Thread antlists
On 28/04/2021 13:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: There have been several tests posted over the years that show that using a tmpfs for TMPDIR doesn't give as much of a gain as you would expect. With NVMe drives, the difference is likely to be even smaller. But that's not the only reason for a tmpfs. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: File transfer via USB?

2021-04-22 Thread antlists
On 22/04/2021 17:29, Grant Edwards wrote: The easiest solution would be to connect both machines with an ethernet cable and run samba on Linux. The interfaces will be configured with a link-local address¹ automatically. That won't use IP? Doesn't have to. In the past it would have used

Re: [gentoo-user] xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open virtual console 1 (Permission denied)

2021-02-10 Thread antlists
On 09/02/2021 04:44, cal wrote: but it doesn't, when I log-in the XFCE4 is not starting automatically, I have to type manually: startxfce4 I see you have already solved your problem.  But it bears mentioning: .xinitrc is executed by runing `startx`, not by the login shell. Indeed, I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo + wifi

2021-03-22 Thread antlists
On 22/03/2021 13:17, Grant Edwards wrote: If you don't want to spend quite that much money, I'm a fan of Lenonovo Moto "G" series phones. You get a lot of phone for your money and very little "bloat". A few of the models used to be available as pure vanilla android, but I don't know if any of

Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt vs Fetchmail problem

2021-03-24 Thread antlists
On 24/03/2021 08:31, Philip Webb wrote: Fetchmail is run as a user cron job. It was last emerged in 2020. The cron jobs are running as before, but nothing is downloaded. .muttrc hasn't been changed since 2020. Fetchmail broke (or rather, MySql broke fetchmail) for me many moons ago, but I

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade from 5.4 to 5.10: oldconfig "Restart config..."

2021-04-05 Thread antlists
On 05/04/2021 15:06, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 13:27 +0200, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: "make olddefconfig"  rather than  "make oldconfig" For the uninitiated, the difference here is that olddefconfig will accept the default configuration value for any new/changed options,

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-05 Thread antlists
On 05/04/2021 18:12, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Bug reports and other comments are welcome, of course. If anybody would like the corresponding patch which works on 5.4.n, for n = 80, that is available, too. Why did it get removed from the kernel? If you want to get it back in, couldn't you ping

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 19:30, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 19:19 +0100, antlists wrote: Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP lets you access them. No problem. Disclaimer: I haven't used Gmail in a few years. Interjection: Gmail does*not* support

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 20:07, Sid Spry wrote: If you control everything you can use wireguard or OpenVPN. https://lwn.net/Articles/850098/ Salutory reading ... Cheers, Wol

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