Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-11 Thread ralfconn
Il 10/03/24 23:44, Walter Dnes ha scritto: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 08:43:46PM +0100, ralfconn wrote Given the warning message reported by Peter ("Enable USE=clang unless you have a very good reason not to.") That message comes from sys-libs/compiler-rt which is a dedicated runtime lib for

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 08:43:46PM +0100, ralfconn wrote > Given the warning message reported by Peter ("Enable USE=clang unless > you have a very good reason not to.") That message comes from sys-libs/compiler-rt which is a dedicated runtime lib for clang. It makes sense to use clang if

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread ralfconn
Il 10/03/24 15:08, Peter Humphrey ha scritto: On Sunday, 10 March 2024 07:17:27 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: So there are at least 2 people who've found out that Firefox can and *MUST* be built with USE="-clang". Ah. I'll change my USE flag straight away. Thanks Walter. This got me wondering,

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 10 March 2024 07:17:27 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > So there are at least 2 people who've found out that Firefox can and > *MUST* be built with USE="-clang". Ah. I'll change my USE flag straight away. Thanks Walter. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 09:16:37PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, > are you building that requires clang? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, are you > building that requires clang? Firefox. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > >>> Running pre-merge checks for sys-libs/compiler-rt-18.1.0 > * Building using a compiler other than clang may result in broken atomics > * library. Enable USE=clang unless you have a very good reason not to. According to

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 9 March 2024 12:49:33 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf and no problems resulting from it. > clang seems to be another "solution in search of a problem" along the > lines of rust and cups and systemd and hatbuzz, etc, which keep trying > to worm their way

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 08:04:06AM +, Wols Lists wrote > For anyone else who hits this sort of problem, I did an > > USE=-clang emerge --update @world > > (firefox and thunderbird were the only programs I thought this would > touch), and it worked. I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/2024 23:13, Carsten Hauck wrote: So I don't know what's going on, but basically Mozilla won't emerge, and I don't know why ... Cheers, Wol Did the other 19 package emerge OK?  Are the mozilla progs crashing when running, or when emerging?  If emerging, the log is just console

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/2024 16:20, ralfconn wrote: Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-04 Thread ralfconn
Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not being installed:  *  *  

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Carsten Hauck
On 03/03/24 at 04:18, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Jack
On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wol
On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Jack
On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ... Cheers, Wol

[gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being installed: * * >=dev-libs/icu-73.1:0/73.1= pulled in by: *

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2024 00:54:12 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > > they'll trip

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Adam Carter
> > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > they'll trip over each other. > > > > Could be a dev has hard-coded the "two

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:31:59 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a > >> hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back > >> and waits. > > > > And that's how

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back and waits. And that's how the very first installation goes, with single-host distcc. Then, when it gets

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 15:28:53 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the > exact same thing ... it's all down to parallelism. > > Make asks itself "how many separate tasks can I do at the same time, > which won't interfere with each

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/11/2023 12:06, Peter Humphreey wrote: The contribution of distcc isn't clear to me yet, as I said before. Sometimes it's the bee's knees; other times it might just as well not be there. I don't like mysteries...  As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:44:20 GMT Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. > > > As > > > a package or more

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. As > > a package or more finished emerging, libreoffice's turn comes up. Soon > > libreoffice

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Jack
On 2023.12.30 18:21, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 30 December 2023 21:10:10 GMT Jack wrote: > I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed. > "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c > wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 30 December 2023 21:10:10 GMT Jack wrote: > I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed. > "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c > wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming > > app-emulation/wine-vanilla-8.21 pulled in by: >

[gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Jack
I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed.  "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming app-emulation/wine-vanilla-8.21 pulled in by:    virtual/wine-0-r10 requires

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread Remco Rijnders
Michael responded to me off list, and wrote: On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:08:49AM -0500, Michael wrote in <675d0538-292f-40de-95c0-446641611...@gmail.com>: I assume you have a script in /etc/portage/env/sys-kernel to build the kernel during normal emerge, this is getting stuck because genkernel

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread ralfconn
Il 17/12/23 15:17, Remco Rijnders ha scritto: Hi all, I've tried googling and didn't get very far so am afraid this might not be a common thing... Since a number of months, emerge hangs when doing a upgrade as soon as it gets to the package gentoo-sources: Installing (23 of 27)

[gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread Remco Rijnders
Hi all, I've tried googling and didn't get very far so am afraid this might not be a common thing... Since a number of months, emerge hangs when doing a upgrade as soon as it gets to the package gentoo-sources: Installing (23 of 27) sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.1.67::gentoo * If you are

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 14:12:39 GMT John Blinka wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM Peter Humphreey > wrote:l > > > What am I missing? > > I have much less powerful hardware than you but libreoffice (as a > stand-alone build) generates many more threads than 4 on my “cluster”.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread John Blinka
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM Peter Humphreey wrote:l > > What am I missing? I have much less powerful hardware than you but libreoffice (as a stand-alone build) generates many more threads than 4 on my “cluster”. I’m also using distcc. On the main box, I set MAKEOPTS=“-j17 -l6” On the

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Peter Humphreey
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. As a > package or more finished emerging, libreoffice's turn comes up. Soon > libreoffice starts to execute make jobs, but any of the following may > apply: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 27 November 2023 15:39:33 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > Hello list, > > I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging > libreoffice, and it's spending almost the whole time working with 4 CPU > threads. But: > > $ grep -e '\-j' -e distcc /etc/portage/make.conf >

[gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-27 Thread Peter Humphreey
Hello list, I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging libreoffice, and it's spending almost the whole time working with 4 CPU threads. But: $ grep -e '\-j' -e distcc /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=18 --load-average=30 --backtrack=200 -- autounmask=n

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 21 November 2023 08:24:31 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:24:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Default location for binary packages is /var/cache/binpkgs/ > > > > Oh? When did that change? > > It may not have on your system. To check the location, run > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:24:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Default location for binary packages is /var/cache/binpkgs/ > > Oh? When did that change? It may not have on your system. To check the location, run portageq pkgdir -- Neil Bothwick pgpvxJd2Rwpxc.pgp Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 20 November 2023 17:12:04 GMT Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is > > that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge

RE: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Wols Lists > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:46 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages > > On 20/11/2023 17:12, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/11/2023 17:12, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box is ignoring all

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, > having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box > is ignoring all those new packages. And yes, I have

[gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box is ignoring all those new packages. And yes, I have checked that they do exist, and in the right place: /var/cache/packages/ .

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 22:21:54 +0200, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. > > Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up > > the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a > > USE flag problem

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 17:22, Dale wrote: >> Jack wrote: >> > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: >> > >> >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> >> up the ^ bit and points to the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Jack
On 2023.06.04 17:22, Dale wrote: Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: > >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. > I suspect the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: > >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. > I suspect the ^ assumes a fixed width font. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up >> the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a USE

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Jack
On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I suspect the ^ assumes a fixed width font.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. > Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up > the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a USE > flag problem but I

[gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Howdy, Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing.  I'm thinking this is a USE flag problem but I can't tell for sure.  Anyone else recognize this and make

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Dan Johansson
On 15.05.23 16:41, Matt Connell wrote: On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 16:24 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote: RuntimeError: OpenPGP signature not found on Manifest It sounds like your sync is hitting a mirror that is currently broken. Are you using a defined mirror list or letting it auto-select? As far

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 16:24 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote: > RuntimeError: OpenPGP signature not found on Manifest It sounds like your sync is hitting a mirror that is currently broken. Are you using a defined mirror list or letting it auto-select?

[gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Dan Johansson
Since at least my "emerge --sync" fails with the following message: --8<-- Total bytes received: 55.60M sent 456.87K bytes received 55.60M bytes 4.48M bytes/sec total size is 188.36M speedup is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:18:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> When I say deeper, I mean it will find more packages that may not be > >> found otherwise. > > And -e finds even more - but more is not always better. -U was > > introduced because -N was causing too many packages to be rebuilt > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today, >>> it'll be left until it does. >>> >>> -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be >>> recompiled, whether it needs to be on your

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > > -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today, > > it'll be left until it does. > > > > -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be > > recompiled, whether it needs to be on your system or not. > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Neil, On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 08:19:10 +0100, you wrote: > ... > So now we kn ow, ChatGPT is case-insensitive, it gave you answers for -u > and -n. You aren't really flabbergasted, are you? After all Microsoft is known for having a particularly soft spot for case-insensitiveness :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> The info from the man page is correct. > Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't. > >> They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages >> but it also means that when a USE flag

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote: > The info from the man page is correct. Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't. > They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages > but it also means that when a USE flag change is made, it also changes any

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
jul...@jroy.ca wrote: > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:10 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I've asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: >> >> Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: >> >> emerge -U: This option upgrades the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:10:32 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > !'ve asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: > > Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: > > emerge -U: This option upgrades the specified package(s) to the latest > available version. It will

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread jul...@jroy.ca
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:10 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: > > > I've asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: > > Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: > > emerge -U: This option upgrades the specified package(s) to the >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread thelma
On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. . I always do

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N > > I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U > might be better option but it takes longer. > Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. > > . > I always do both except I use the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread thelma
On 4/10/23 11:11, hitachi303 wrote: Am 10.04.23 um 18:44 schrieb the...@sys-concept.com: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread hitachi303
Am 10.04.23 um 18:44 schrieb the...@sys-concept.com: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. Just out of curiosity: Is

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 10:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N > > I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be > better option but it takes longer. > Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. > Since

[gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread thelma
Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-21 Thread Adam Carter
> > Could it be that some kind of Spectre mitigation is active? I just read > about > some massive performance problems in Kernel 5.19+ on Skylake CPUs. Stable > gentoo kernel was upgraded to 6.1 recently, which could also be affected > by > this problem. > See

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-20 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2023, 01:49:11 CET schrieb Adam Carter: > I have three systems (all ~arch) and the emerge times have blown out on all > of them across all packages. Worst example appears to be; > > Fri Dec 23 13:11:44 2022 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.38.3-r410 >merge time: 37

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-18 Thread Stefan Schmiedl
Samstag, 18. Februar 2023 01:49:   > I have three systems (all ~arch) and the emerge times have blown out on all > of them across all packages. Worst example appears to be; >     Fri Dec 23 13:11:44 2022 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.38.3-r410 >        merge time: 37 minutes and 8 seconds. >      

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-18 Thread Alan J. Wylie
Adam Carter writes: > My reason for asking is that i'm seeing this across multiple systems, 2 > AMD, 1 Intel, who's configuration hasn't really changed and while there is > some variance there has been a step change late December / early January. > Another example > > Sat Nov 26 14:34:50

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-17 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > > Does that info help?  > > > My reason for asking is that i'm seeing this across multiple systems, > 2 AMD, 1 Intel, who's configuration hasn't really changed and while > there is some variance there has been a step change late December / > early January. Another example

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-17 Thread Adam Carter
> > Does that info help? > > My reason for asking is that i'm seeing this across multiple systems, 2 AMD, 1 Intel, who's configuration hasn't really changed and while there is some variance there has been a step change late December / early January. Another example Sat Nov 26 14:34:50 2022

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-17 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: > I have three systems (all ~arch) and the emerge times have blown out > on all of them across all packages. Worst example appears to be; > >     Fri Dec 23 13:11:44 2022 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.38.3-r410 >        merge time: 37 minutes and 8 seconds. > >      Fri Dec 23

[gentoo-user] emerge times blown out

2023-02-17 Thread Adam Carter
I have three systems (all ~arch) and the emerge times have blown out on all of them across all packages. Worst example appears to be; Fri Dec 23 13:11:44 2022 >>> net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.38.3-r410 merge time: 37 minutes and 8 seconds. Fri Dec 23 13:43:08 2022 >>>

[gentoo-user] emerge 7-9% faster with python 3.11 beta 4

2022-07-12 Thread Adam Carter
FYI, i've found 'emerge -pvuUD world' is 7-9% faster on my machines when I compare 3.10 to 3.11b4. To achieve this i've added '*/* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_10 python3_11' to package.use on my ~arch systems, then run 'emerge -avuUD portage'. At the end of this python-exec.conf contains;

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread karl
tastytea: > On 2022-05-20 17:22+0200 k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > Neil Bothwick: > > > On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > > How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package > > > > another PATH is used ? > > > > > > PATH is just an

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread Dale
k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Neil Bothwick: >> On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: >>> How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package another >>> PATH is used ? >> PATH is just an environment variable, so >> >> PATH="/path1:/path2" emerge blah >> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread tastytea
On 2022-05-20 17:22+0200 k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Neil Bothwick: > > On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package > > > another PATH is used ? > > > > PATH is just an environment variable, so > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread karl
Neil Bothwick: > On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package another > > PATH is used ? > > PATH is just an environment variable, so > > PATH="/path1:/path2" emerge blah > > should do that. Doesn't seems

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 May 2022 15:55:22 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package another > PATH is used ? PATH is just an environment variable, so PATH="/path1:/path2" emerge blah should do that. Unless what you are really asking is how do you

[gentoo-user] emerge with another PATH

2022-05-20 Thread karl
How do I run emerge so that when buildin/emerging the package another PATH is used ? Regards, /Karl Hammar

[gentoo-user] emerge not fetching anything

2022-05-04 Thread dalmonimo
Hello, Starting last update emerge stopped downloading packages, but syncing works. For example: >>> Downloading 'http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/layout.conf' --2022-05-04 08:43:54-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/layout.conf Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... !!! Couldn't download

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync

2022-04-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
I was doing the emerge-webrsync step in the install instructions for gentoo and that was to install a gentoo snapshot. On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 19:58, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > Found no snapshots on rit.edu and went back from now to March 6, 2022. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync

2022-04-15 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 at 19:58, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Found no snapshots on rit.edu and went back from now to March 6, 2022. > I'm using openrc now. Has gentoo got a site where it shows latest > available snapshot information for its snapshots? > What kind of information are you after? I

[gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync

2022-04-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
Found no snapshots on rit.edu and went back from now to March 6, 2022. I'm using openrc now. Has gentoo got a site where it shows latest available snapshot information for its snapshots?

[gentoo-user] emerge is stumped

2022-04-09 Thread n952162
I can't emerge. I get these errors, like, 4 times: T/ask was destroyed but it is pending!// //task: wait_for=.() at /usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/_emerge/AsynchronousTask.py:49, ()]> cb=[SpawnProcess._main_exit()]>// / // I had to abort an emerge yesterday, could

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -DuN @system vs. emerge -DuN @world

2022-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:41:14 +0100, hitachi303 wrote: > >> as far as I understand updating @system first should be safer and > >> easier to perform than updating @world directly. It was mention that > >> especially after updating the software after a somewhat long period > >> this might solve

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -DuN @system vs. emerge -DuN @world

2022-03-21 Thread hitachi303
Am 21.03.22 um 13:34 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 10:43:30 +0100, hitachi303 wrote: as far as I understand updating @system first should be safer and easier to perform than updating @world directly. It was mention that especially after updating the software after a somewhat

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -DuN @system vs. emerge -DuN @world

2022-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 10:43:30 +0100, hitachi303 wrote: > as far as I understand updating @system first should be safer and > easier to perform than updating @world directly. It was mention that > especially after updating the software after a somewhat long period > this might solve conflicts. I

[gentoo-user] emerge -DuN @system vs. emerge -DuN @world

2022-03-21 Thread hitachi303
Hi, as far as I understand updating @system first should be safer and easier to perform than updating @world directly. It was mention that especially after updating the software after a somewhat long period this might solve conflicts. I often do experience different and wonder what the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failes due to no valid source for pythonexec-2.2 when I have pythonexec-2.4 installed???

2022-02-06 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 at 03:42, Steven Lembark wrote: > # emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world > > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy > ">=dev-lang/python-exec-2:2/2=[python_targets_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-)]". > (dependency required by

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failes due to no valid source for pythonexec-2.2 when I have pythonexec-2.4 installed???

2022-02-06 Thread John Covici
On Sun, 06 Feb 2022 15:52:12 -0500, Steven Lembark wrote: > > # emerge --info > > > I spend more time maintaining a language I don't actually use > lately... > > Emerge fails becuase python-exec-2.2 doesn't have its expected > Pytnon version. Catch is that it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failes due to no valid source for pythonexec-2.2 when I have pythonexec-2.4 installed???

2022-02-06 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 6 Feb 2022 at 21:52, Steven Lembark wrote: > emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy > ">=dev-lang/python-exec-2:2/2=[python_targets_python3_6]". > !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: > - dev-lang/python-exec-2.4.8::gentoo (Missing

[gentoo-user] emerge failes due to no valid source for pythonexec-2.2 when I have pythonexec-2.4 installed???

2022-02-06 Thread Steven Lembark
# emerge --info I spend more time maintaining a language I don't actually use lately... Emerge fails becuase python-exec-2.2 doesn't have its expected Pytnon version. Catch is that it appears that the current version is 2.4, which seems to be installed:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge asynchronous anomoly

2021-10-03 Thread Marco Rebhan
On Sunday, 3 October 2021 10:28:49 CEST n952162 wrote: > Is it so on top of things that it's downloading many packages early, > and the download is so aggressive, that nothing else can run? emerge downloads distfiles for all packages to install in the background while the compile jobs are

[gentoo-user] emerge asynchronous anomoly

2021-10-03 Thread n952162
Hallo, there's probably an explanation ... I'm emerging at this point: >>> Emerging (51 of 93) perl-core/Encode-3.120.0::gentoo and there's NO additional log output for a very long time. Looking at ps(1) shows this: root 22366 21993  0 07:46 pts/1 00:00:00  |   \_

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