Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Dale, could yo please add again rd.debug to your kernel command line,
boot with the initramfs, and post the output from dmesg (without you
manually mounting your LVM volume)?
Regards.
It's attached. I see what it is doing but no idea how to fix
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:05:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's a bug. Roach report here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
Going back a version and then reboot.
No need for that, just change locking_dir in lvm.conf to somewhere
writeable, as mentioned in the bug report - comment 6.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:05:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's a bug. Roach report here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
Going back a version and then reboot.
No need for that, just change locking_dir in lvm.conf to somewhere
writeable, as mentioned in the
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:54:05 -0500, Dale wrote:
No need for that, just change locking_dir in lvm.conf to somewhere
writeable, as mentioned in the bug report - comment 6.
Well, I didn't want to mess with the config much since I may make it
worse. So, I built a new kernel 3.3.0 and built a
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:05:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's a bug. Roach report here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
Going back a version and then reboot.
No need for that, just change
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:23:01 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
It seems the problem it's in LVM, or (more appropriately) in the
failure to create the /run tmpfs:
# mount | grep /run
tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
tmpfs on /var/run type tmpfs
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:54:05 -0500, Dale wrote:
No need for that, just change locking_dir in lvm.conf to somewhere
writeable, as mentioned in the bug report - comment 6.
Well, I didn't want to mess with the config much since I may make it
worse. So, I built a new
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:05:27 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's a bug. Roach report here:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409921
Going back a version and then reboot.
No need
On 4/2/2012 11:12 PM, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Actually, the initramfs finished without a single error: between
[1.962007] dracut: + source_conf /etc/conf.d
and
[2.395576] dracut: Switching root
there is not a single error. The initramfs did what it needed to do;
the
Mike Edenfield wrote:
It was the debug stuff; every line that look like
dracut: + stuff here
was debugging information; AFAICT dracut mounted /dev/sda3 as root then
it mounted the two other partitions it found.
But this could be a problem (from your other email):
root@fireball / #
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike Edenfield wrote:
It was the debug stuff; every line that look like
dracut: + stuff here
was debugging information; AFAICT dracut mounted /dev/sda3 as root then
it mounted the two other partitions it found.
But this
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn't had neither USE=device-mapper, nor
DRACUT_MODULES=lvm, so I add them. Then I tried to create my initramfs
with LVM, and like in your case, it failed. Using the --debug option
for dracut, it *seems* (it's really verbose and I
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn't had neither USE=device-mapper, nor
DRACUT_MODULES=lvm, so I add them. Then I tried to create my initramfs
with LVM, and like in your case, it failed. Using the --debug option
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn't had neither USE=device-mapper, nor
DRACUT_MODULES=lvm, so I add them. Then I tried to create my initramfs
with LVM, and like in your case, it failed. Using
Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn't had neither USE=device-mapper, nor
DRACUT_MODULES=lvm, so I add them. Then I tried to create my initramfs
with LVM, and like in your case, it
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Dale wrote:
William Kenworthy wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I do. I don't use LVM, so i didn't had neither USE=device-mapper, nor
DRACUT_MODULES=lvm, so I add them. Then I
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
SNIP
I'm a little confused: you log in KDE as a regular user, open a
Konsole, type su -, and what happens?
What do you mean with Konsole won't even try to come up?
In the shell that Krusader provides (which I assume you run as a
regular user), what it's the
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
SNIP
I'm a little confused: you log in KDE as a regular user, open a
Konsole, type su -, and what happens?
What do you mean with Konsole won't even try to come up?
In the shell that Krusader
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Actually, I log into KDE as a user and when Konsole opens, it asks for
the root password. I have the KDE session saved so it opens all this on
its own. Anyway, since I have it set that way,
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP
Actually, I log into KDE as a user and when Konsole opens, it asks for
the root password. I have the KDE session saved so it
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
SNIP
Well damn. Why you do not have devtmpfs? In all the machines I have
access to (with or without initramfs, with either systemd or OpenRC),
they have devtmps:
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs
(rw,nosuid,relatime,size=2023140k,nr_inodes=505785,mode=755)
devtmpfs
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
SNIP
Well damn. Why you do not have devtmpfs? In all the machines I have
access to (with or without initramfs, with either systemd or OpenRC),
they have devtmps:
devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 02:41:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
switch_root: failed to mount moving /dev to /sysroot/dev: Invaild
argument
Do you have DEVTMPFS support in your kernel? What do you get from
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
--
Neil Bothwick
After all is said and done let there not be more said
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you go:
root@fireball / # zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set
root@fireball / #
Looks like a nope to me. ;-)
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you go:
root@fireball / # zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set
root@fireball / #
Looks like a nope to
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is my grub lines:
title=Initramfs-new_kernel
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/bzImage-3.2.11-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init rd.debug
rd.udev.debug
initrd /initramfs-3.2.11.img
title Gentoo
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you go:
root@fireball / # zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not set
On Apr 3, 2012 7:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you go:
root@fireball / # zgrep
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you go:
root@fireball / # zgrep
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Apr 3, 2012 7:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP /proc/config.gz
Ooops, it sort of snipped a bit much. lol Here you
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Apr 3, 2012 7:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
zgrep DEVTMP
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Dale wrote:
I think I got it all sorted and am building a new kernel. It will have
a -2 on the end instead of a -1. I'll test it in a bit. I got some
things to prepare for tomorrow plus we have storms coming in tonight.
The
Dale wrote:
So the init thingy is going to print all that stuff each time? Or is
that the debug stuff you had me add to the grub line? Please say it is
so. It's one reason I checked my email. I was counting and realized
the debug stuff that was added may haver done all that. Taking a
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120329 17:39]:
[..]
I already tried making one from scratch and also making the one inside
the kernel. Both belly flopped and left me with nothing but errors. It
never even tried to leave the init thingy environment. I think I posted
them a good long while back
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:16:30 -0500, Dale wrote:
It's not a blackbox, unlike a kernel or any other binary, it is a
simple cpio archive that you can unpack and inspect. If you want
total control, build your own, it is not rocket science.
cough cough You sure about that? I have tried
Hi, Mike.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:24:14AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Why is nobody else on
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:56:28 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered
ugly except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague,
unarticulated grounds.
I'll articulate a few. (i) The initramfs involves having two copies of
lots
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:56:28 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered
ugly except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague,
unarticulated grounds.
I'll
Evening, Neil.
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 05:35:35PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:56:28 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
I think I have the elegant solution: that would be for the kernel to be
able to mount several partitions at system initialisation rather than
just the
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:29:11 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
It's already happened here. My kernel mounts / and /usr thanks to the
inbuilt initramfs
That's exactly what I didn't mean, and I think you might have been aware
of that.
Maybe, but it does fit your description.
What I did mean
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Hi, Mike.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:24:14AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 + Alan
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:13:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
wrote:
I'll articulate a few. (i) The initramfs involves having two copies
of lots of software around.
Lots? For most people busybox is enough! If you want
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:13:40 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
wrote:
I'll articulate a few. (i) The initramfs involves having two copies
of lots of
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Can you try doing
dracut -H /boot/initramfs-kernel version here
??
The man page from dracut says that -H is for the current host
instead of a generic host. Maybe the generic host configuration is
messing up something with su that your actual host
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Can you try doing
dracut -H /boot/initramfs-kernel version here
??
The man page from dracut says that -H is for the current host
instead of a generic host. Maybe the generic host configuration is
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120329 16:22]:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Can you try doing
dracut -H /boot/initramfs-kernel version here
??
The man page from dracut says that -H is for the current host
instead of a generic host. Maybe the generic host configuration is
messing
Todd Goodman wrote:
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120329 16:22]:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Can you try doing
dracut -H /boot/initramfs-kernel version here
??
The man page from dracut says that -H is for the current host
instead of a generic host. Maybe the generic host configuration is
From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
I had to reboot so I made a new init thingy with the -H switch. It works in
Console but nothing root works in KDE. I get the same error.
Heck, Konsole won't even try to come up much less ask for my password.
Krusader asks for password and says that
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:35:36 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
Don't forget boot-time X-based animation, too. That's an
extraordinarily common feature of mainstream desktop distributions.
And there will be other things, I'm sure.
I don't get involved with those, but I'd hope something
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:35:36 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
Fine. NFS clients. Samba clients. Crypto. SSHFS. NTFS-3g. Security
auditing. Virtualization tools. Perl, python or whatever is necessary
to handle some case which required scripting. X. Graphics loading
libraries. Cupsd, because some
From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:04 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: After /usr conflation: why not copy booting
software to /sbin rather than initramfs?
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:35:36 -0400, Michael Mol wrote
On Mar 30, 2012 9:14 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
8 snip
splashutils, which is the package dracut uses to generate a boot splash
image, has a lot of dependencies but requires they all be built
USE=static-libs. Plymouth, which does animated boot splash, is a bit
worse;
On Mar 28, 2012 11:27 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered ugly
except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague, unarticulated
grounds.
Check out the email from William Kenworth in this mailing list; he's having
On Mar 28, 2012 1:17 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:
On Mar 28, 2012 11:27 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered ugly
except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague, unarticulated
grounds.
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:17:56 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:
Check out the email from William Kenworth in this mailing list; he's
having trouble with initramfs being a blackbox.
As a (mostly) server guy, I much prefer using a whitebox.
It's not a blackbox, unlike a kernel or any other binary, it
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:32:22 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
We're going to be stuck with some issues anyway, no matter how we cope
with things. At the moment, I've got my /usr on RAID1, which I think
doubles up the speed things load at.
Use 0.90 metadata and you can put / on RAID1 too.
(It's
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:55:20AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was
to copy (not move)
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:01:32 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Read my other mail and pay attention to the difference between
transient and persistent.
In my proposed solution, the executables in /sbin would only exist until
/usr had been mounted and the runtime PATH set up. After the
Hi, Neil.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:56:36PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:01:32 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Read my other mail and pay attention to the difference between
transient and persistent.
In my proposed solution, the executables in /sbin would only
From: Canek Peláez Valdés [mailto:can...@gmail.com]
I agree with most of what you say; however, I believe you are mistaken
about the static nature of the binaries in the initramfs created by dracut. I
use dracut with the whole bang (plymouth, systemd, udev, you name it), and
I don't have
From: Pandu Poluan [mailto:pa...@poluan.info]
On Mar 28, 2012 11:27 AM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
Well, for one, the initramfs solution is not generally considered ugly
except by a select vocal few who object to it on vague, unarticulated
grounds.
Check out the email from
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I
don't
know if it's true or not.
dracut wants you to have loadable module /support/ in your kernel so it can
scan for modules needed by the rootfs. The kernel-module support in
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:07:33 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
What happens to files that are installed to /bin, /sbin or /lib by
default?
Aren't they getting shoved into /usr? I thought that was the whole
point of the excercise.
That /may/ happen at some time, but not now, so we need a
On Wednesday 28 March 2012 22:47:09 Neil Bothwick wrote:
Since someone has already asked about this off-list, the method is
described on sysrescd.org and involves a GRUB menu entry like
echo Adding: System Rescue CD
menuentry System Rescue CD {
set
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:45:40 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
echo Adding: System Rescue CD
menuentry System Rescue CD {
set sysresiso=/systemrescuecd-x86-2.5.1.iso
loopback loop $sysresiso
linux (loop)/isolinux/rescue64 rootpass=whatever setkmap=uk
isoloop=$sysresiso initrd
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I
don't know if it's true or not.
Oh really? I don't use modules and I am the one having issues with not
being able to su to root from a user. I wonder if that is related
somehow. o_O
Dale
:-)
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I
don't know if it's true or not.
Oh really? I don't use modules and I am the one having issues with not
being able to su to root
Neil Bothwick wrote:
It's not a blackbox, unlike a kernel or any other binary, it is a simple
cpio archive that you can unpack and inspect. If you want total control,
build your own, it is not rocket science.
cough cough You sure about that? I have tried building one, then
building it
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I
don't know if it's true or not.
Oh really? I don't use modules and I am the one having issues with not
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Incidentally, dracut says it won't work on a kernel without modules. I
don't know if it's true or not.
Oh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:55:37 +0200
c...@chrekh.se wrote:
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start
to realize that the idea of tiny partition that contains just
From: c...@chrekh.se [mailto:c...@chrekh.se]
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start to
realize that the idea of tiny partition that contains just what I
Hi, Mike.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 03:56:01PM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote:
From: c...@chrekh.se [mailto:c...@chrekh.se]
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:26:46 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
As you move more and more software off of /usr into / you start
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to copy
(not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs - the exact
same programs, modulo noise - to have the SW in /sbin necessary to mount
/usr.
Your
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to
copy (not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs -
the exact same programs, modulo noise - to have the SW in /sbin
necessary to mount /usr.
Hello, Neil.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:41:53PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to copy
(not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs - the exact
same
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to
copy (not move) booting software to /sbin instead of an initramfs -
the exact
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:01:28 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Neil.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:41:53PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was
to copy (not
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:01:28 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Your package manager only knows about the copy in the original
location.
So? The same applies to a copy in the initramfs.
No it does not. the initramfs is built using the versions installed on
your system, and unloaded as soon
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:35:44 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
Why is nobody else on this thread willing to take up its main point, the
exact equivalence between the known, ugly, initramfs solution and the as
yet half-baked idea of putting the same binaries into /sbin?
Bewause everyone else
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:35:44 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was
to
Hello again, Alan.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:39:27AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:01:28 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hello, Neil.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:41:53PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the question was NOT about. The idea was to
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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote:
From: Alan Mackenzie [mailto:a...@muc.de]
Hi, Alan.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:48:19PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:24:22 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
That is precisely what the
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