On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
I will admit that I have a big concern about an upcoming MySQL update
that is probably going to break my whole TV network here. Due to my
fear I haven't upgraded MySQL and will likely come back ranting myself
sometime in December when I'm probably
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:03:18 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Then I was able to tweak my USE flags and CFLAGS and
rebuild the system to the same as I'd have got from Stage 1
Neil,
Would you mind sharing what changes you made to your CFLAGS to get
the equivalent of a Stage 1 install?
When
On 11/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:50:00 -0500, Derek Tracy wrote:
The biggest reason for the reinstall was because in my contant playing
around with DE's and WM's trying to find one that I completely liked. I
had KDE, GNOME, E17, FVWM, OpenBOX (I
Derek Tracy wrote:
[...]
(I did not change any other config files) and low and behold after a
quick reboot everything was working again.
The magic of computers :)
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At Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:23:46 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:03:18 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Would you mind sharing what changes you made to your CFLAGS to get
the equivalent of a Stage 1 install?
When installing a stage 3 you are using packages
On 11:20 Wed 16 Nov , Derek Tracy wrote:
After restarting I noticed that ipw2200 did not load properly was posted
in my boot mesg WTF. I distinctly remembered during the install that I
waited until after I installed the kernel, then I went ahead and installed
the external
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:52:47 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
What about -march ? At one point that was something that you weren't
supposed to change unless using stage1. If one changes -march after
stage3, are we supposed to first run bootstrap.sh before emerge -e ?
There's no problem with
On 11/17/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:03:18 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
Then I was able to tweak my USE flags and CFLAGS and
rebuild the system to the same as I'd have got from Stage 1
Neil,
Would you mind sharing what changes you made to your
At Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:35:27 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:52:47 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
What about -march ? At one point that was something that you weren't
supposed to change unless using stage1. If one changes -march after
stage3, are we
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
(DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but
more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my
opinions/concerns.)
SNIP
Understood. I certainly didn't take it that way.
I have been an avid Gentoo
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the
jist of it skip to the end.
(DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but
more of a concern. So please do not flame me for stating my
SNIP
I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I have
ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I couldn't fix.
Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and removed a LOT of
options from the Gentoo build process. I LIKED being able to modify
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500
Derek Tracy wrote:
Part way through the online handbook I noticed that
they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers
thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot.
I read your message and was surprised
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:12 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500
Derek Tracy wrote:
Part way through the online handbook I
Nick Rout wrote:
I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the
handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1
handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an
instal on other architectures).
Now, like you, I read this in the Handbook:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500
Derek Tracy wrote:
Part way through the online handbook I noticed that
they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers
thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:12, Nick Rout wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500
Derek Tracy wrote:
Part way through the online handbook I noticed that
they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the
On 11/16/05, Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a lot longer than I originally intended it to be so if you want the jist of it skip to the end.
(DISCLAIMER: Let me start off by saying that this is truly not a flame but more of a
Nick Rout wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:20:36 -0500
Derek Tracy wrote:
Part way through the online handbook I noticed that
they standardized the Stage3 install. I figured that since the developers
thought it was best to use a Stage3 install then why not give it a shot.
I read your message
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot
say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install
most people end up rebuilding everything anyway within a few weeks.
Very soon my Stage 3 and your
I couldn't have said it better myself.On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install most people
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:30:28 -0600
kashani wrote:
Nick Rout wrote:
I read your message and was surprised at this. Last time I read the
handbooks the Handbook gave stage 1/2/3 options and the 2005.1
handbook stuck to stage 3. (Talking x86 here, I have never done an
instal on other
On 11/16/05, Benjamin Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 21:47, Mark Knecht wrote:
I'm not a developer and I've never done a Stage 1 install so I cannot
say for sure, but it's my understanding that after a Stage 3 install
most people end up rebuilding everything
I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that conflict with others.
Like I said before a Stable tree should be just
Mark Knecht wrote:
Good points. I agree it doesn't seem like the Gentoo way to remove
options, however, in response to Derek's original point about rising
or fallign numbers of Gentoo new users it might be wise to make the
default install Stage 3, thus making the newest users most likely more
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote:
That is what I was thinking when I switched to stable. From what I am
seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean
stable anymore.
But thats not what you said. I Quote:
In the past I have always
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:55 pm, Benjamin Martin wrote:
True that the installations become identical very soon. But what if I set
up server using stage 1 and an up-to-date portage tree. After the
installation is finished it'll sit around doing whatever it's supposed to
do and I don't
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should
work,
I'm not sure this is always possible. Much of your complaint comes
from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14. But the in-kernel
version is several versions
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install the
default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion portage needs
to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also of packages that
conflict with
On 11/16/05, Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 16 November 2005 02:50 pm, Derek Tracy wrote: That is what I was thinking when I switched to stable. From what I am seeing either my computer doesn't like stable code or stable does not mean
stable anymore.But thats not what you
On 11/16/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a branch is marked stable all of the packages in that branch should work,I'm not sure this is always possible.Much of your complaint comes
from the ipw2200 driver, which is new in 2.6.14.But
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I
have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I
couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and
removed a LOT of
Derek Tracy wrote:
I also want to reiterate that if they are going to make a Stage3 install
the default then make it a rock solid release. And in my opinion
portage needs to be pruned not only of un-maintained packages but also
of packages that conflict with others.
Like I said before a
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:44:49 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I use Gentoo to run all my boxen and I love it. That being said, I
| have ALWAYS done a stage1 install. Never had a single problem I
| couldn't fix. Then, suddenly, they switched everything to stage3 and
| removed a LOT of options
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What I am complaining about is that neither of the drivers will work.
What doesn't work? Does the module build? Does it load? What errors
do you get? Does it work if you run the same kernel version and
driver you used before?
If the
On 11/16/05, Derek Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have to disagree with you on this. I do not believe that it is a
config issue I beleive that many of the x86 packages still do not play well
with each other, that is what I am saying needs fixed.
Again, be specific please. Give us
On 11/16/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ Note: looks like I'm missing half this thread because certain
jackasses are posting HTML messages to the list. You'd think people
would've learned by now... ]
We've tried educating about the evils of HTML (and top-posting). It
always
On 11/16/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then I was able to tweak my USE flags and CFLAGS and
rebuild the system to the same as I'd have got from Stage 1
Neil,
Would you mind sharing what changes you made to your CFLAGS to get
the equivalent of a Stage 1 install?
Thanks,
Mark
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:50:00 -0500, Derek Tracy wrote:
The biggest reason for the reinstall was because in my contant playing
around with DE's and WM's trying to find one that I completely liked. I
had KDE, GNOME, E17, FVWM, OpenBOX (I think that is it) all on my
system. In all of my toying
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