Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-20 Thread John Crisp
On 16/09/16 18:13, michael norman wrote: > > > Oh dear, a can of worms. Yes a can of worms of your own making by engaging in 'Farage' like, sweeping, ill informed and abusive comments. As one poster said, the reason why many left the UK was to avoid people like yourself. Write in haste, repent at

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-17 Thread Mark Carroll
On 16 Sep 2016, Roger Bell West wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:30:39PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: >>(Why is this the only one out of hundreds of mailing lists I'm on where >>people care so much about topic drift?) > > You've asked this before. I can only assume you mostly favour lists >

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Alan Milewczyk
On 16/09/16 22:30, David Cantrell wrote: On 2016-09-16, 21:03, michael norman wrote: Are we not OT with this ? Hi, welcome to the internet. It's a place where people talk about things and there is topic drift. I'm afraid that if you don't learn to put up with it you're going to get very

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread RS
From: David Cantrell Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 20:44 Have you seen the quality of TV programming in Italian and German? THAT is why they want English content, and also why their own content is not worth protecting. Yes, although only FTA. I don't agree that it is all bad or even

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:30:39PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: >(Why is this the only one out of hundreds of mailing lists I'm on where >people care so much about topic drift?) You've asked this before. I can only assume you mostly favour lists that encourage general chat as well as the subject

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread David Cantrell
On 2016-09-16, 21:03, michael norman wrote: Are we not OT with this ? Hi, welcome to the internet. It's a place where people talk about things and there is topic drift. I'm afraid that if you don't learn to put up with it you're going to get very upset very quickly. (Why is this the only

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread michael norman
On 16/09/16 20:44, David Cantrell wrote: On 2016-09-16, 19:16, RS wrote: I am not convinced by the argument that European copyright licences would be much more expensive because 38% of the EU population speak English as an additional language. People want to watch television in their mother

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread David Cantrell
On 2016-09-16, 19:16, RS wrote: I am not convinced by the argument that European copyright licences would be much more expensive because 38% of the EU population speak English as an additional language. People want to watch television in their mother tongue. 13% of the EU population have

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread RS
From: Jim web Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 18:03 One hope of remaining in the EU is that the EU has been moving towards a 'no boarders' approach to broadcasting. Unfortunately the Television without Frontiers Directive does not go far enough. Even so, as a national broadcaster

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Jim web
In article <20160916160554.ga26...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > If a tiny number of geeks can circumvent the restrictions by using VPNs, > or hiring a server in the UK, or using VLC to watch a DVD, that really > doesn't matter. What matters is

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 04:39:53PM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote: > I realise that there is are rites issues and it is not just the BBC or tv, > they tried region coding dvds it doesn't work, with gobal movement of people > the whole rites thing needs a rethink. Actually it does work. It doesn't

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Paul Thornett
"I find your idea of all these expats who would pay for the BBC or anything else quite risible. These are the same people who have left UK to avoid paying irritating things like taxes and BBC licence fees." Actually, many of us married people from overseas; then it becomes a difficult decision as

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread michael norman
Rites ? What ? Rights surely. Strikes me all the BBC is trying to do is make sure, on trust, that those who access its content pay for it. The BBC pays for rights to its programming same as any other broadcaster does one way or another, that has to be paid for. Worldwide rights are not

RE: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Dave Widgery
I realise that there is are rites issues and it is not just the BBC or tv, they tried region coding dvds it doesn't work, with gobal movement of people the whole rites thing needs a rethink. But none the less I am sure some accommodation could be included in the rites to allow nationals of the

RE: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Dave Liquorice
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:51:00 +0200, Dave Widgery wrote: > Whatever blocks the bbc and other broadcasters put there will always be a > way past the system, so why not accept this and look at ways to increase > revenue from the millions of British people who would quite happily > contribute but

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Jim web
In article <975c5a4d-a8e2-46cc-83f2-d33f9024e...@gmail.com>, Dave Widgery wrote: > I just wish the bbc would stop wasting money trying to stop the > unstoppable They know full well that they can't ensure total compliance, and that real life is complex. Their aim is to

RE: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Dave Widgery
ists.infradead.org >> Subject: Re: So what does this really mean >> >> On 15/09/16 15:23, Simon Morgan wrote: >> > However it isn't a requirement to have a licence for on-demand >> > ITVPlayer programmes or other sources such as Netflix. >> >> M

RE: So what does this really mean

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Morgan
> -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of The Kernel > Sent: 16 September 2016 05:45 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: So what does this really mean > > On 15/09/16 15:23, Simon M

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread The Kernel
On 15/09/16 15:23, Simon Morgan wrote: However it isn't a requirement to have a licence for on-demand ITVPlayer programmes or other sources such as Netflix. My point exactly And that really the detail is unclear And quite frankly, enforcement will be near impossible in some cases

RE: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread Simon Morgan
> -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of RS > Sent: 15 September 2016 13:47 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: So what does this really mean > > > From: RS Sent: Thursda

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread RS
From: RS Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 12:31 What about programme web sites? Do I now need a television licence to watch www.bbc.co.uk/news? For example, is today's item on the centenary of the tank a programme the form and content of which are comparable to the form and content of

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread RS
From: Jonathan H Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 07:52 On the iPlayer site it says (my emphasis) "To watch or record live TV programmes on any channel, *or* to watch or download BBC programmes on iPlayer when you're in the UK, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man". Have you or anyone

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread Jim web
In article <976c65ba-82a3-d20a-fe66-c35f07f6d...@su2root.ukfsn.org>, The Kernel wrote: > Catchup is not either of those, at least not as I read it. And services > such as Ch4/5 don't have any info that I see about a TV Licence I assume they feel it isn't their job

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-15 Thread Jonathan H
On the iPlayer site it says (my emphasis) "To watch or record live TV programmes on any channel, *or* to watch or download BBC programmes on iPlayer when you're in the UK, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man". On 15 September 2016 at 05:14, The Kernel wrote: > On

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-14 Thread The Kernel
On 14/09/16 07:44, SquarePenguin wrote: On 14/09/2016 07:04, The Kernel wrote: Don’t forget, you still need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes on any channel as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service ? On any channel - really? Do they mean any BBC or ANY... They

Re: So what does this really mean

2016-09-14 Thread SquarePenguin
On 14/09/2016 07:04, The Kernel wrote: > Don’t forget, you still need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes > on any channel as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV > service > > ? On any channel - really? Do they mean any BBC or ANY... They mean any. That's been the law for

So what does this really mean

2016-09-14 Thread The Kernel
Don’t forget, you still need a TV Licence to watch or record programmes on any channel as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service ? On any channel - really? Do they mean any BBC or ANY... ___ get_iplayer mailing list