Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread Jim web
In article <113575b3-3dac-ba08-eb2b-b0c099b63...@zoho.com>, RS
 wrote:


> On 04/12/2019 15:42, Jim web wrote:
> > In article <581d19c687...@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim web

> > Alas, this just gives me the same 96k. Even when the info contains the
> > following as per an example. It lists 'high' modes, etc, but when I
> > specify them, I still get 96k. The puzzle is that it lists the highest
> > modes for podcasts, but doesn't supply them as it used to until
> > recently. And trying the podcast's direct pid fails entirely.
> > 

> Try get_iplayer --pid w3csy6cs --radiomode dafhigh --version=podcast

> I suspect you have let it default to --version=original, but version
> original only has med and low modes.  If you want the higher bit rate
> modes for the podcast version you will have to specify it.

Yes! That got me 320k for that WS programme and another I tried. Excellent.
:-)

Alas, the details for recent WS programmes seem to vary all over the place,
so neither the above nor anything else I've yet tried has got me better
than 96k  for the recent 'short form' "More or Less" examples. The don't
declare any podcast modes in the returned info.

This all becomes a bit 'hunt and peck' at the moment because the situation
varies from programme to programme. But I'll keep my fingers crossed that I
get useful feedback from someone I've asked about the inconsistencies...

Thanks, 

Jim

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread RS




On 04/12/2019 15:42, Jim web wrote:

In article <581d19c687...@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim web

wrote:

In article <603b6aab-a35b-ecc6-e34b-ed0e72b51...@zoho.com>, RS
 wrote:



You can use a list of modes in order of preference.
--radiomode=dafhigh,dafstd,dafmed


Alas, this just gives me the same 96k. Even when the info contains the
following as per an example. It lists 'high' modes, etc, but when I specify
them, I still get 96k. The puzzle is that it lists the highest modes for
podcasts, but doesn't supply them as it used to until recently. And trying
the podcast's direct pid fails entirely.



Try
get_iplayer --pid w3csy6cs --radiomode dafhigh --version=podcast

I suspect you have let it default to --version=original, but version 
original only has med and low modes.  If you want the higher bit rate 
modes for the podcast version you will have to specify it.



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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread Jim web
In article <581d19c687...@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim web

wrote:
> In article <603b6aab-a35b-ecc6-e34b-ed0e72b51...@zoho.com>, RS
>  wrote:

> > You can use a list of modes in order of preference.
> > --radiomode=dafhigh,dafstd,dafmed

Alas, this just gives me the same 96k. Even when the info contains the
following as per an example. It lists 'high' modes, etc, but when I specify
them, I still get 96k. The puzzle is that it lists the highest modes for
podcasts, but doesn't supply them as it used to until recently. And trying
the podcast's direct pid fails entirely.

I've emailed someone at the BBC about this as I don't know if this is now
policy or an "Oops!". But why list high modes if they can't be accessed any
more. I've been experimenting with various modes, none I've found thus far
get more than 96k.


Example.
===

Episodes:
Discovery - Galileo's lost letter, BBC World Service, w3csy6cs
INFO: 1 total programmes

firstbcast:  2019-12-02T20:32:30Z

longname:Discovery
modes:   original:
hlamed1,dafmed1,dafmed2,haflow1,haflow2,haflow3,haflow4,hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2
modes:   podcast:
dafhigh1,dafhigh2,dafhigh3,dafhigh4,hafstd1,hafstd2,hlastd1,dafstd1,dafstd2,dafstd3,dafstd4,dafmed1,dafmed2,dafmed3,dafmed4,haflow1,haflow2,hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2,daflow3,daflow4
modesizes:   original:
hlamed1=19MB,dafmed1=19MB,dafmed2=19MB,haflow1=10MB,haflow2=10MB,haflow3=10MB,haflow4=10MB,hlalow1=9MB,daflow1=10MB,daflow2=10MB
[estimated sizes only]
modesizes:   podcast:
dafhigh1=64MB,dafhigh2=64MB,dafhigh3=64MB,dafhigh4=64MB,hafstd1=27MB,hafstd2=27MB,hlastd1=25MB,dafstd1=25MB,dafstd2=25MB,dafstd3=25MB,dafstd4=25MB,dafmed1=19MB,dafmed2=19MB,dafmed3=19MB,dafmed4=19MB,haflow1=10MB,haflow2=10MB,hlalow1=10MB,daflow1=10MB,daflow2=10MB,daflow3=10MB,daflow4=10MB
 [estimated sizes only]
name:Discovery
nameshort:   Discovery
pid: w3csy6cs
player:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy6cs
runtime: 26

TYpe:radio
verpids: original: w4hqsp0q
verpids: podcast: p07wp706
version: original
versions:original,podcast
web: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy6cs

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread Jim web
In article <603b6aab-a35b-ecc6-e34b-ed0e72b51...@zoho.com>, RS
 wrote:

> You can use a list of modes in order of preference.
> --radiomode=dafhigh,dafstd,dafmed

Thanks.

That's probably the best approach from my POV as it means I can use the
same radio settings for R3/4 and WS and get the best available in each
case. Still seems a worry that the BBC seem to be 'phasing out' 320k aac
for WS, though. Maybe this is like the 320k mode for TV which they've not
noticed was being produced... until now. But removing it for *UK* listeners
whilst keeping it for R3/4 etc seems weird.

Jim

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread RS

On 04/12/2019 10:55, Jim web wrote:

Here are some examples of the info for some recent programmes on WS that
illustrate the odd variations. Question is what the best strategy might be
for mode settings to always get the best available quality?

As a personal choice I tend to prefer podcast version *if* the sound
quality is as high as the broadcast version and - as often - there is some
extra content that isn't just presenter preening or 'promos' for 'other
things you will like' (sic)!
... 




Despite the above having 'med' modes my fetch was 96k but I'll try again
with other mode settings.



med modes as in dafmed or hafmed are 96kbit/s (often with the dreaded 
HE-AAC).  To get 128kbit/s you need the std modes as in dafstd or 
hafstd, and these have been missing recently in some cases.


You can use a list of modes in order of preference.
--radiomode=dafhigh,dafstd,dafmed

Another option is to download the podcast (not to be confused with the 
podcast version available in get_iplayer).  Go to

bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz1tz
where w3csz1tz is the PID of the programme you want.  Click the Podcast 
tab.  Click the Download button for the episode you want.  You will be 
offered a choice of 128kbit/s or 64kbit/s.  The downloaded file will be MP3.


Best wishes
Richard



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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-04 Thread Jim web
Here are some examples of the info for some recent programmes on WS that
illustrate the odd variations. Question is what the best strategy might be
for mode settings to always get the best available quality?

As a personal choice I tend to prefer podcast version *if* the sound
quality is as high as the broadcast version and - as often - there is some
extra content that isn't just presenter preening or 'promos' for 'other
things you will like' (sic)!

Example 1


Episodes:
CrowdScience - Could humans hibernate during interstellar travel?, BBC
World Service, w3csz1tz
INFO: 1 total programmes

firstbcast:  2019-11-29T20:32:30Z

modes:   podcast:
dafhigh1,dafhigh2,dafhigh3,dafhigh4,hafstd1,hafstd2,hlastd1,dafstd1,dafstd2,dafstd3,dafstd4,dafmed1,dafmed2,dafmed3,dafmed4,haflow1,haflow2,hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2,daflow3,daflow4
modesizes:   podcast:
dafhigh1=86MB,dafhigh2=86MB,dafhigh3=86MB,dafhigh4=86MB,hafstd1=37MB,hafstd2=37MB,hlastd1=35MB,dafstd1=35MB,dafstd2=35MB,dafstd3=35MB,dafstd4=35MB,dafmed1=26MB,dafmed2=26MB,dafmed3=26MB,dafmed4=26MB,haflow1=14MB,haflow2=14MB,hlalow1=13MB,daflow1=13MB,daflow2=13MB,daflow3=13MB,daflow4=13MB
 [estimated sizes only]
name:CrowdScience
nameshort:   CrowdScience
pid: w3csz1tz
player:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz1tz
runtime: 36

Example 2


Episodes:
More or Less - Testing tomatoes, BBC World Service, w3csz3ry

firstbcast:  2019-11-30T18:50:00Z

modes:   original:
hlamed1,dafmed1,dafmed2,haflow1,haflow2,haflow3,haflow4,hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2
modesizes:   original:
hlamed1=6MB,dafmed1=6MB,dafmed2=6MB,haflow1=3MB,haflow2=3MB,haflow3=3MB,haflow4=3MB,hlalow1=3MB,daflow1=3MB,daflow2=3MB
 [estimated
sizes only]
name:More or Less
nameshort:   More or Less
pid: w3csz3ry
player:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz3ry
runtime: 9

Example 3


Episodes:
People Fixing the World - Turning kids into entrepreneurs, BBC World
Service, w3csz1pf

firstbcast:  2019-12-03T03:06:00Z

modes:   original:
hlamed1,dafmed1,dafmed2,haflow1,haflow2,haflow3,haflow4,hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2
modesizes:   original:
hlamed1=17MB,dafmed1=17MB,dafmed2=17MB,haflow1=9MB,haflow2=9MB,haflow3=9MB,haflow4=9MB,hlalow1=8MB,daflow1=8MB,daflow2=8MB
 [estimated
sizes only]
name:People Fixing the World
nameshort:   People Fixing the World
pid: w3csz1pf
player:  https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csz1pf
runtime: 23

Despite the above having 'med' modes my fetch was 96k but I'll try again
with other mode settings.

Jim

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread tellyaddict
I've also noticed that there seem to be inconsistencies in the audio on the TV 
side of things since the recent changes. With regional programmes for example 
(like the London News) hvfxsd or dvfxsd was always the best quality that was 
available for those, and it seems that even with the bug which sometimes stops 
hvfxsd showing in the new version of GiP, the London ones often do have hvfsxd 
available anyway and a look at --info shows that both hvfxsd and dvfxsd have 
audio available at 128 kbps. I've noticed that a couple of the London News 
streams have been affected by the missing hvfxsd bug in GiP 3.23 and these 
showed as dvfxsd having 96 kbps but hvfhigh which is a lower resolution video 
has 128 kbps audio. That just doesn't make sense. I looked at the Scotland 
Regional News as another test and again there was no hvfxsd option but dvfxsd 
only came with 96 kbps audio.

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 at 6:08 PM
> From: "MacFH - C E Macfarlane" 
> To: RS , get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: world service 96k
>
> Please see below ...
> 
> On 03/12/2019 16:23, RS wrote:
> > However I then looked at what was available from get_iplayer v3.23 for 
> > the 28 November 2019 Science in Action (w3csym2r).  The only version 
> > is the podcast version, but with these modes.
> > modes:   podcast: 
> > dafhigh1,dafhigh2,dafhigh3,dafhigh4,hafstd1,hafstd2,hlastd1,dafstd1,
> > dafstd2,dafstd3,dafstd4,dafmed1,dafmed2,dafmed3,dafmed4,haflow1,haflow2,
> > hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2,daflow3,daflow4 
> 
> Yes, I've just checked that this was true, and so was able to download 
> it in std, my default for such programmes.  However, the last time I 
> downloaded it, it definitely seemed only to come only in med, hlamed1 to 
> be exact.
> 
> End Of Last Week:
> w3csym2r|Science In Action|New Malaria 
> Target|radio|1575132305|hlamed1|D:\Media\Downloads\Science In Action - 
> New Malaria Target.m4a|original|1590|Molecular research opens the way to 
> prevent antimalarial resistance|BBC World Service|Factual,Science & 
> Nature,Magazines & 
> Reviews|https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/192x108/p07wbzsp.jpg||https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csym2r|||
> 
> Today:
> w3csym2r|Science In Action|New Malaria 
> Target|radio|1575396236|dafstd1|D:\Media\Downloads\Science In Action - 
> New Malaria Target.m4a|podcast|1758|Molecular research opens the way to 
> prevent antimalarial resistance|BBC World Service|Factual,Science & 
> Nature,Magazines & 
> Reviews|https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/192x108/p07wbzsp.jpg||https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csym2r|||

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane

Please see below ...

On 03/12/2019 16:23, RS wrote:
However I then looked at what was available from get_iplayer v3.23 for 
the 28 November 2019 Science in Action (w3csym2r).  The only version 
is the podcast version, but with these modes.
modes:   podcast: 
dafhigh1,dafhigh2,dafhigh3,dafhigh4,hafstd1,hafstd2,hlastd1,dafstd1,

dafstd2,dafstd3,dafstd4,dafmed1,dafmed2,dafmed3,dafmed4,haflow1,haflow2,
hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2,daflow3,daflow4 


Yes, I've just checked that this was true, and so was able to download 
it in std, my default for such programmes.  However, the last time I 
downloaded it, it definitely seemed only to come only in med, hlamed1 to 
be exact.


End Of Last Week:
w3csym2r|Science In Action|New Malaria 
Target|radio|1575132305|hlamed1|D:\Media\Downloads\Science In Action - 
New Malaria Target.m4a|original|1590|Molecular research opens the way to 
prevent antimalarial resistance|BBC World Service|Factual,Science & 
Nature,Magazines & 
Reviews|https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/192x108/p07wbzsp.jpg||https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csym2r|||


Today:
w3csym2r|Science In Action|New Malaria 
Target|radio|1575396236|dafstd1|D:\Media\Downloads\Science In Action - 
New Malaria Target.m4a|podcast|1758|Molecular research opens the way to 
prevent antimalarial resistance|BBC World Service|Factual,Science & 
Nature,Magazines & 
Reviews|https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/192x108/p07wbzsp.jpg||https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csym2r|||



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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread RS

On 03/12/2019 14:22, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:

Please see below ...

On 03/12/2019 13:53, Paul Thornett wrote:

What about downloading subtitles and, if necessary, constructing a
Matroska file (.mkv) containing video, audio and subtitle? I can
provide more info on how to do this if you're interested.




Remultiplexing to .mkv seems overkill for handling subtitles.  What is 
wrong with using the get_iplayer --subtitles option to create a .srt 
file with the same name as the .mp4 file?  The player can then turn them 
on and off.




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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread RS

On 03/12/2019 13:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:

Please see below ...

On 03/12/2019 09:51, Jim Lesurf wrote:

I' ve now switched to using the new version of GIP and using the 'DASH'
approach for fetching. Many thanks for the new version. :-)

For TV this works fine. And for *most* radio it also works fine. But 
since

I'm writing this you'll have guessed there is a trailing, "...however..."
:-)

Using " --type=radio --mode=daf " I can get 320k aac from R4/3 fine. But
when I tried some World Service examples ('More or Less") they came as 
96k

aac. So far I can't find a sign or way of getting them as 320k.

I'm pretty sure I could get 320k from WS in the past. And the last time I
checked, Scotland was still within the UK. So am I doing something wrong,
or has something changed, or do I mis-remember... or is there a way 
now to

get 320k from WS?


Yes, I've noticed this too.  Fortunately for me, the only WS item I 
download is "Science In Action", which usually I delete after I've 
listened to it, so, as long as the quality is good enough to be 
listenable, I don't really mind.


Science in Action is an interesting example.  It has a podcast, which 
means you have a choice of 128kbit/s and 64kbit/s.  It is an .mp3 file. 
Some here may scoff at .mp3.  Although at 128kbit/s AAC is slightly 
better than MP3, I think it is almost certain that 128kbit/s MP3 is 
superior to 96kbit/s AAC.  That is the more so when the BBC is 
delivering 96kbit/s as HE-AAC v1 with the Spectral Band Replication 
(SBR) extension.  If a player does not support SBR, the bandwidth is 
effectively reduced to 48kbit/s.


I was going to say that if 96kbit/s HE-AAC v1 was the best that was 
available on the World Service, the podcast, if there was one, would be 
a better bet.  However I then looked at what was available from 
get_iplayer v3.23 for the 28 November 2019 Science in Action (w3csym2r). 
 The only version is the podcast version, but with these modes.
modes:   podcast: 
dafhigh1,dafhigh2,dafhigh3,dafhigh4,hafstd1,hafstd2,hlastd1,dafstd1,

dafstd2,dafstd3,dafstd4,dafmed1,dafmed2,dafmed3,dafmed4,haflow1,haflow2,
hlalow1,daflow1,daflow2,daflow3,daflow4

The answer to Jim's question about how to get 320kbit/s audio from the 
World Service, for some programmes at least, seems to be to use

--radiomode=dafhigh

In England too the best modes available for the Testing tomatoes episode 
of World Service More or Less are hlamed and dafmed.  The Radio 4 
Election Special has a wider range of modes including dafhigh.  I 
suspect the answer is that it was set up at a time when the World 
Service was restricted to 96kbit/s and has not been updated.  I was 
recently looking at sampling rates and found that Law in Action was 
using a sampling rate of 44.1kHz long after everyone else moved to 48kHz 
(and podcasts still use 44.1kHz).  More or Less does have a podcast, so 
you can at least get 128kbit/s MP3 from the World Service.


Best wishes
Richard




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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane

Please see below ...

On 03/12/2019 13:53, Paul Thornett wrote:

What about downloading subtitles and, if necessary, constructing a
Matroska file (.mkv) containing video, audio and subtitle? I can
provide more info on how to do this if you're interested.


I suppose it would depend on the program  -  last night I was watching 
an Horizon programme that I'd downloaded a few weeks back, 'The Honest 
Supermarket', and when Hannah Fry said that recently the sales of 
bottled water had, for the first time, exceeded the sales of cola, I 
couldn't distinguish the word 'cola' on first hearing. For Horizon, I 
suppose I wouldn't really mind subtitles, but for 'Seven Worlds One 
Planet' certainly I would *not* want subtitles all over the beautiful 
scenery!


I think I could probably work out how to use subtitles if it comes to 
that, but don't let that stop you posting something that might usefully 
benefit others, as well as perhaps myself.


Thanks and regards, Charles.

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Mostly OT, but from Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread Jim web
In article <33d41029-e8b7-f5e5-2424-3b4f2f7d2...@macfh.co.uk>, MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane  wrote:
> Please see below ...
[snip]

> However, like you, I'm beginning to get concerned at the moving 
> deck-chairs because it usually means that something good disappears and 
> what we're left with is not as good.  The loss of hi-def audio in hi-def 
> video is a classic case in point:  Why would *anyone* think that the 
> quality of the audio track is any less important than the quality of the 
> video track, *especially* where music is concerned, such as with the 
> Proms?  Given the above, I didn't bother to download the TV version of a 
> single prom this year.

I asked about this and the reason given was that the high res video with
320k sound borked too many user-devices which failed to correctly specify
what they could handle. As a result, there were complaints, and the BBC
decided it was simpler to end the 320k altogether. We got it for years
after this because they forgot to switch off generating it!

I agree this is crazy, but the BBC tend to be blamed when user devices
don't cope.

> The above also makes me wonder if this is the reason that increasingly I 
> find I have to turn the volume up when watching TV, because words get 
> lost in the 'mush'.  

I suspect that's more down to producers who want sound to be like it. Hence
all the complaints to Radio Times, etc, about mumbling actors...

I also focussed on DVB-T2 for Proms videos this year. Where, of course,
other deckchairs have been shuffled, with more to come, and also the threat
to the muxes which might axe BBC4 TV entirely! :-/

Our local muxs just got shuffled and the details were nothing like what was
pre-announced. Still, makes life interesting, dunnit! ;->

Jim

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane

Please see below ...

On 03/12/2019 09:51, Jim Lesurf wrote:

I' ve now switched to using the new version of GIP and using the 'DASH'
approach for fetching. Many thanks for the new version. :-)

For TV this works fine. And for *most* radio it also works fine. But since
I'm writing this you'll have guessed there is a trailing, "...however..."
:-)

Using " --type=radio --mode=daf " I can get 320k aac from R4/3 fine. But
when I tried some World Service examples ('More or Less") they came as 96k
aac. So far I can't find a sign or way of getting them as 320k.

I'm pretty sure I could get 320k from WS in the past. And the last time I
checked, Scotland was still within the UK. So am I doing something wrong,
or has something changed, or do I mis-remember... or is there a way now to
get 320k from WS?


Yes, I've noticed this too.  Fortunately for me, the only WS item I 
download is "Science In Action", which usually I delete after I've 
listened to it, so, as long as the quality is good enough to be 
listenable, I don't really mind.


However, like you, I'm beginning to get concerned at the moving 
deck-chairs because it usually means that something good disappears and 
what we're left with is not as good.  The loss of hi-def audio in hi-def 
video is a classic case in point:  Why would *anyone* think that the 
quality of the audio track is any less important than the quality of the 
video track, *especially* where music is concerned, such as with the 
Proms?  Given the above, I didn't bother to download the TV version of a 
single prom this year.


The above also makes me wonder if this is the reason that increasingly I 
find I have to turn the volume up when watching TV, because words get 
lost in the 'mush'.  Of course, I'm getter older too, but I've 
particularly noticed this on downloads from the beginning of this year, 
so I'm beginning to suspect that the problem is the poor quality of the 
audio tracks.  When watching on my bedside TV, I used to have the volume 
slider about a third of the way across, but now it's more like half, and 
yet *still* I find that words are swallowed up and I have to 'rewind', 
and listen to a sentence again with the volume turned up so loud that it 
would be uncomfortable to keep it so for any length of time.



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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread Jim web
In article
, CJB
 wrote:
> What is the default - all I use is --type=radio for all radio downloads.
> CJB

I've been looking at the fetchable 'info' for randomly chosen recent WS
items and some seem to not go above 'med' levels whilst others go to
'high'. So the quality offerred seems to vary, but I can't see a pattern as
to why. However in the past all the fetches I got were 320k rate. Now it
seems 'pot luck'.

I also just noticed that some WS items now have very long pids. 

Deckchairs seem to be moving...

Jim

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Re: world service 96k

2019-12-03 Thread CJB
What is the default - all I use is --type=radio for all radio downloads. CJB

On 03/12/2019, Jim Lesurf  wrote:
> I' ve now switched to using the new version of GIP and using the 'DASH'
> approach for fetching. Many thanks for the new version. :-)
>
> For TV this works fine. And for *most* radio it also works fine. But since
> I'm writing this you'll have guessed there is a trailing, "...however..."
> :-)
>
> Using " --type=radio --mode=daf " I can get 320k aac from R4/3 fine. But
> when I tried some World Service examples ('More or Less") they came as 96k
> aac. So far I can't find a sign or way of getting them as 320k.
>
> I'm pretty sure I could get 320k from WS in the past. And the last time I
> checked, Scotland was still within the UK. So am I doing something wrong,
> or has something changed, or do I mis-remember... or is there a way now to
> get 320k from WS?
>
> Jim
>
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> Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
> biography http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
> Audio Misc  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html
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