Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Monty Montgomery
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:53 AM, Laxminarayan Kamath wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Call it the Gnu IMP. >> >> This has to be facetiousness, doesn't it? > > What about "FreeMI" ? standing for "Freedom to Manipulate Images"? > *if* the GTK

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
Incidentally, I like Stephen's 'Wilber/ Wilber Image Editor' suggestion (in another related thread). I'm envisioning someone using the latest GIT version because they *have* to be up-to-date with the newest stuff, the program crashing and destroying their work, and they cry 'No! WIEEE?'

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Laxminarayan Kamath
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Call it the Gnu IMP. > > This has to be facetiousness, doesn't it? What about "FreeMI" ? standing for "Freedom to Manipulate Images"? *if* the GTK people want to rename accordingly, even that would sound nice "FreeTK"

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Brendan wrote: >> All the above comprise a significant factor in why forks are regarded, >> at best, as a necessary evil. All forks dilute branding, which >> introduces user confusion and repels potential users. > > I think it's incorrect to say it repels potential

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Christopher Howard wrote: > Stephen Griffiths wrote: > When I mentioned "forking the project" I wasn't thinking of having a > version of GIMP out there that was actually following a fully separate > development path with a bunch of disgrunted GIMP developers. Rath

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Howard
Stephen Griffiths wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:48 +1030, David Gowers wrote: >> It doesn't really matter that much to the developers *what* it is >> called, as far as I know. >> The point is really the branding... changing name will definitively >> LOSE a lot of users, no matter what the curre

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Stephen Griffiths
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:48 +1030, David Gowers wrote: > It doesn't really matter that much to the developers *what* it is > called, as far as I know. > The point is really the branding... changing name will definitively > LOSE a lot of users, no matter what the current name is or the > intended na

Re: [Gimp-developer] Reminder please: glib-related environment variables

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Howard
Owen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:37:52 -0800 > Christopher Howard wrote: > >> Hi. I've got glib 2.20.5 installed on my system through the package >> manager, but apparently that is not good enough to build the latest >> GIMP. I built the latest glib code from the git repo and installed it, >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Andrew A. Gill
Well, if we're going to do this discussion, I think I'll just unsubscribe for a while. Let me know when you guys decide to keep the name GIMP. Or better yet, don't. -- | Andrew A. Gill To ensure continued quality of service, | |this e-mail is being monitored by the N

Re: [Gimp-developer] Reminder please: glib-related environment variables

2009-10-28 Thread Owen
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:37:52 -0800 Christopher Howard wrote: > Hi. I've got glib 2.20.5 installed on my system through the package > manager, but apparently that is not good enough to build the latest > GIMP. I built the latest glib code from the git repo and installed it, > but when I try to bui

Re: [Gimp-developer] Definition #5 is bad, but what about #1-4???

2009-10-28 Thread Stephen Griffiths
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 19:41 -0400, Sparr wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:35 PM, vabijou2 wrote: > > Lame, crippled, inept, deficient, or sexual deviant . > > > > I get that it's an acronym, but that doesn't mean it isn't incredibly > > strange to want to associate a project that the develop

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:41 AM, vabijou2 wrote: > So just because some old farts in Scotland may have good associations with > the word, you think that renders the rest of the English-speaking world's > interpretation silly?  %-| Personally, I think the question you just asks renders you silly (

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Christopher Howard wrote: > John B wrote: >> Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up >> before this becomes a big argument. >> ___ >> Gimp-developer mailing list >> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berke

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread vabijou2
Patrick Horgan wrote: > > The same site you cited has the following: > Adjective > gimp ( comparative more gimp, superlative most gimp) > > > > > > Positive > gimp > > > > > Comparative > more gimp > > >

Re: [Gimp-developer] Definition #5 is bad, but what about #1-4???

2009-10-28 Thread Sparr
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 7:35 PM, vabijou2 wrote: > Lame, crippled, inept, deficient, or sexual deviant . > > I get that it's an acronym, but that doesn't mean it isn't incredibly > strange to want to associate a project that the developers are proud of with > any of these interpretations! You

[Gimp-developer] Definition #5 is bad, but what about #1-4???

2009-10-28 Thread vabijou2
Lame, crippled, inept, deficient, or sexual deviant . I get that it's an acronym, but that doesn't mean it isn't incredibly strange to want to associate a project that the developers are proud of with any of these interpretations! . Mark John B-12 wrote: > > I use Gimp frequentl

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Howard
John B wrote: > Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up > before this becomes a big argument. > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-deve

[Gimp-developer] Reminder please: glib-related environment variables

2009-10-28 Thread Christopher Howard
Hi. I've got glib 2.20.5 installed on my system through the package manager, but apparently that is not good enough to build the latest GIMP. I built the latest glib code from the git repo and installed it, but when I try to build GIMP the configure script keeps seeing the old gimp instead of the n

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread David Gowers
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp" >> in multiple occasions on the website. > > You got it wrong. Mascot's name is Wilber and he thinks you should apologize. No, John is correct: GIMP's mascot Wilber

[Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread John B
Well, if it's out of the question, then I guess I'll just shut up before this becomes a big argument. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Patrick Horgan
John B wrote: I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2 There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5. Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp" in multiple occasions on the website. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 10/28/09, John B wrote: > I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning. > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2 > > There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5. Fine with me. Don't wear it. > Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "

Re: [Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:35 PM, John B wrote: > IMO this would be a valid reason for a name change. Has that ever been > considered? Search the archives - this has been discussed to death... and there will be no name change. Chris ___ Gimp-developer

[Gimp-developer] The name "Gimp"

2009-10-28 Thread John B
I use Gimp frequently, and I find this pretty concerning. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gimp#Noun_2 There is no way I'm wearing a Gimp T-Shirt after reading item #5. Worse, I seem to recall the Gimp mascot being referred to as "a gimp" in multiple occasions on the website. IMO this would be a va