Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Carol Spears
When I started using the Gimp, I was about as stupid as they come. I even learned linux (what little I know) from the Gimp up. I am not as stupid about the Gimp now, but that is about as far as I will go. I learned the word alpha from that bottom layer being what it is. It has become pesky t

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Garry R. Osgood
Carey Bunks wrote: > > I seem to remember that this is the way PhotoShop does it (I'm going > to check on this later tonight), and that would probably be a good > enough reason not to fiddle with this. Photoshop furnished Gimp with UI scaffold, but Wilbur is a big boy now and can have his own h

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Tue, May 16, 2000 at 05:42:54PM +0200, David Necas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NO, please. > > `Special' background layer maybe isn't very intuitive, but automatical > promoting has the same problem: it's based on a side-effect and it's not gimp automatically promotes layers on a variety of

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jens Lautenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes: > > I still haven't found a good reason to keep the background layer > > "special" when the image contains multiple layers. If the only > > reasons are historical or to copy the features

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Jens Lautenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes: > On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jens Lautenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I would say, simply make a layer by default have alpha always... I > > know I know it's more memory for that 0.001 % of cases where people > > start with one background layer an

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Alan
May I make a humble suggestion. Change File->New to allow users to select a Fill Type of either Background w/o alpha Background w/ alpha Then users can select what they want to begin with. Flatten and Add Alpha Channel can still exist as is in the Layers menu. No automatic behind-the-scenes sw

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Raphael Quinet
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Jens Lautenbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes: > > I would even go as far as removing the "Add Alpha Channel" option from > > the menus, and suggest that the prefered method to add transparency to > > an image that has only one layer

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Jon Winters
On Tue, 16 May 2000, David Necas wrote: > > Making the background layer "special" is not very intuitive. > > > > ... > > > > What do you think? > > NO, please. > The only good solution is probably to make `Add Alpha Channel' more > intuitive. The user should _see_ the background layer is spec

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread David Necas
> ... > > It should be easy add an alpha channel to the background layer as soon > as a second layer is added to the image. Is there a reason why this > should not be done automatically? > > I think that it would make things easier to understand for the user. > Making the background layer "speci

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Carey Bunks
> [about not making background special wrt alpha] > > What do you think? YES please. this is simply annoying. > I would even go as far as removing the "Add Alpha Channel" option from > the menus, and suggest that the prefered method to add transparency to > an image that ha

Re: Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Jens Lautenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Quinet) writes: > [about not making background special wrt alpha] > > What do you think? YES please. this is simply annoying. > I would even go as far as removing the "Add Alpha Channel" option from > the menus, and suggest that the prefered method to add transparenc

Is "Add alpha channel" really necessary?

2000-05-16 Thread Raphael Quinet
I just saw an article in comp.graphics.apps.gimp (in the thread with the subject "White balance tool?") that starts describing a method with these words: "use the color picker on the 'white' color, duplicate the background layer, delete the original, add a layer..." I had to read that twice to und