[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
>> Von: "David G." > >> In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 >> crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. > >Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. > >On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... > >Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. > > >HTH, >Michael > Update: I checked again in the Nvidia site and there was a driver update shortly after I installed the most recent I could find there meaning that I downloaded the newest drivers at about the first week of August and when I checked after this last post I saw that Nvidia had posted new drivers on the 20th of August so I downloaded and installed those and the bug seems to be gone, I have not noticed the screen flashing anymore when I activate the selection markee and the problem happened happened fairly quickly after doing that and the GPU has not reported that it has crashed and recovered again so I think that it was definitely a driver problem, great! I can use my Gimp again!! -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
Yes I know, but those are beta releases and many people say that using the text tool crashes their Gimp 2.7 a lot. As a general rule I avoid beta software, not always but most of the time because I usually rather wait for the stable release. I don't mind waiting a bit longer for the new single entry in the task bar feature, right now I'm more concern with the graphic card issue with the selection markee, I will report that to Nvidia just in case. If it turns out to be a bug with the graphic driver instead of Gimp the more users with this problem that report it to Nvidia the merrier. >On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, David G. wrote: >> To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so >> far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a > >Behold: > >http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/gimp-2-7-beta,-last-stable-is-2-6-7-also-for-windows-t37771.html > >Yea, verily. > >David > -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
Well the last drivers I downloaded was about three weeks ago so I think that it may be too early too check, perhaps in a month or two and yes I did think too that it could be an Nvidia driver problem and if a lot of users using other graphic cards are not having the same problem that's more reason to suspect. >> Von: "David G." > >> In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 >> crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. > >Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. > >On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... > >Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. > > >HTH, >Michael > -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
> Von: "David G." > In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 > crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. HTH, Michael -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
On Monday, September 7, 2009, 2:56:40, David G. wrote: > In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 > crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. When > I activate a selection markee the graphics driver starts to have problems and > starts to flicker and shortly after that the Nvidia cards reports to me that > the graphics system has crashed and that it has been recovered. Are you using the latest drivers from www.nvidia.com? Anyway, even if you are, this is not GIMP's fault, but a problem in the driver itself. BTW, there is a GIMP 2.7.0 installer for Windows on SourceForge. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > It is better to have a horrible ending than to have horrors without end. -- Matsch's Law ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
yep - we have here 2 separated points Vista GIMP Vista - it's a problem for Microsoft too not only for users - maybe for a simple user (mails, internet, office programs) Vista is just perfect, but when you have to use Vista for more serious tasks, many peoples feels like you -> Vista = problems where XP was OK. Especially with graphic drivers Vista count a lot of holes - ask gamers... So is not a GIMP problem. GIMP use GTK (for windows) which should work OK with Vista. Anyway this is not a GIMP problem. I revert my second OS back to XP too (first is Ubuntu). About GIMP 2.7 - I put GIMP 2.7 for windows on a web space - you can download and try it from here : http://www.lady-anion.com/gimp-2.7.0-i686-setup.exe Because is a development release - in Windows, the text tool (yep there are a direct text tool as in Photoshop) can crash your GIMP so be aware. 2009/9/7 David G. : > To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so > far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a > single entry in the taskbar and all the Windows minimize when you minimize one > that's great for me, the multiple windows thing and being able to put them > anywhere you want doesn't bother me, like I said it's just that I think that a > single entry in the task bar becomes much easier to manage in a multi > application workflow. Again if Gimp 2.7 fixes this that will be great. > > In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 > crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. When > I activate a selection markee the graphics driver starts to have problems and > starts to flicker and shortly after that the Nvidia cards reports to me that > the graphics system has crashed and that it has been recovered. Luckily this > recovery system seems to be pretty solid in my graphics card system otherwise > I would have a lot of Vista crashes because of this. I Have Windows Vista > Ultimate 64 Bit running in a Intel core i7 CPU and two Evga 260 GTX graphic > cards running in SLI mode with 12 gigas of DDR3 memory, when I first installed > Gimp in this machine it crashed a lot when I tried to use color correction > tools like Brighness and Contrast adjustments, as soon as I tried to use one > of those Gimp crashed but when it was updated to version 2.6.7 that was > totally fixed (that bug was giving a lot of people problems cause I found out > online) but I still have the selection markee issue that makes the graphic > system unstable quickly, any ideas about what could be causing this? In my XP > machines it works just fine. > >>"I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always > shows >>as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just >>easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications > workflow." >> >> >>But GIMP 2.7 solve that. Maybe you don't use 2.7. A single entry in >>taskbar and when the canvas window is minimized all other utility >>windows are minimized too. >> >> >>2009/9/6 Ramon Miranda : >>> David G said always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this perfectly and still was a single window program. >>> >>> i would like to have also the ability so save my workspace and change >>> "inside" the gimp from. for example. paint workspace to a "photoretouch" >>> space . instead having different sessionrc and quiting gimp to change the >>> workspace. i hope you will understand me. >>> >>> 2009/9/6 David G. >I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So > this >way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a single >window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a > lot..." >Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to > see > a >lot of panels flying through my desktop" > >Lets give it a try to a single window mode > >2009/9/5 Martin Nordholts > >> On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: >> >> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release >> > is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? >> >> That is not really relevant to this thread. >> (But yes of course it will be possible.) >> >> / Martin >> >> -- >> >> My GIMP Blog: >> http://www.chromecode.com/ >> >> ___ >> Gimp-developer mailing list >> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >> > > I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single window Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second > monitor because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single >>>
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a single entry in the taskbar and all the Windows minimize when you minimize one that's great for me, the multiple windows thing and being able to put them anywhere you want doesn't bother me, like I said it's just that I think that a single entry in the task bar becomes much easier to manage in a multi application workflow. Again if Gimp 2.7 fixes this that will be great. In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. When I activate a selection markee the graphics driver starts to have problems and starts to flicker and shortly after that the Nvidia cards reports to me that the graphics system has crashed and that it has been recovered. Luckily this recovery system seems to be pretty solid in my graphics card system otherwise I would have a lot of Vista crashes because of this. I Have Windows Vista Ultimate 64 Bit running in a Intel core i7 CPU and two Evga 260 GTX graphic cards running in SLI mode with 12 gigas of DDR3 memory, when I first installed Gimp in this machine it crashed a lot when I tried to use color correction tools like Brighness and Contrast adjustments, as soon as I tried to use one of those Gimp crashed but when it was updated to version 2.6.7 that was totally fixed (that bug was giving a lot of people problems cause I found out online) but I still have the selection markee issue that makes the graphic system unstable quickly, any ideas about what could be causing this? In my XP machines it works just fine. >"I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always shows >as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just >easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications workflow." > > >But GIMP 2.7 solve that. Maybe you don't use 2.7. A single entry in >taskbar and when the canvas window is minimized all other utility >windows are minimized too. > > >2009/9/6 Ramon Miranda : >> David G said >>>always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's >>> layout too. Photoshop allowed this >>>perfectly and still was a single window program. >> >> i would like to have also the ability so save my workspace and change >> "inside" the gimp from. for example. paint workspace to a "photoretouch" >> space . instead having different sessionrc and quiting gimp to change the >> workspace. i hope you will understand me. >> >> 2009/9/6 David G. >>> >>> >I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So >>> > this >>> >way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a >>> single >>> >window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a lot..." >>> >Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to see >>> > a >>> >lot of panels flying through my desktop" >>> > >>> >Lets give it a try to a single window mode >>> > >>> >2009/9/5 Martin Nordholts >>> > >>> >> On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: >>> >> >> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release >>> >> > is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? >>> >> >>> >> That is not really relevant to this thread. >>> >> (But yes of course it will be possible.) >>> >> >>> >> / Martin >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> My GIMP Blog: >>> >> http://www.chromecode.com/ >>> >> >>> >> ___ >>> >> Gimp-developer mailing list >>> >> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >>> >> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single >>> window >>> Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second monitor >>> because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single >>> window >>> program it allows you to put the toolbox and the parameter windows (or at >>> least it did in some older versions) in a separate monitor and leave the >>> main >>> program window all for editing pictures if that's what people wanted. You >>> coul >>> also save the workspace layout so Photoshop always opened like this and >>> Gimp >>> already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this >>> perfectly and still was a single window program. >>> >>> If that's the concern of people then perhaps Gimp should become a single >>> windows program that allows this, that allows you to put the toolbox and >>> the >>> right utilities window in a separate monitor while still preserving a >>> single >>> box or entry in the taskbar. In my opinion having a single entry in the >>> taskbar is much better because it's far less messy, the biggest problem >>> with >>> the multiple entries interface is that some people seem to think that >>> everybody opens Gimp only here and there and
