yep - we have here 2 separated points Vista GIMP Vista - it's a problem for Microsoft too not only for users - maybe for a simple user (mails, internet, office programs) Vista is just perfect, but when you have to use Vista for more serious tasks, many peoples feels like you -> Vista = problems where XP was OK. Especially with graphic drivers Vista count a lot of holes - ask gamers...
So is not a GIMP problem. GIMP use GTK (for windows) which should work OK with Vista. Anyway this is not a GIMP problem. I revert my second OS back to XP too (first is Ubuntu). About GIMP 2.7 - I put GIMP 2.7 for windows on a web space - you can download and try it from here : http://www.lady-anion.com/gimp-2.7.0-i686-setup.exe Because is a development release - in Windows, the text tool (yep there are a direct text tool as in Photoshop) can crash your GIMP so be aware. 2009/9/7 David G. <for...@gimpusers.com>: > To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so > far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a > single entry in the taskbar and all the Windows minimize when you minimize one > that's great for me, the multiple windows thing and being able to put them > anywhere you want doesn't bother me, like I said it's just that I think that a > single entry in the task bar becomes much easier to manage in a multi > application workflow. Again if Gimp 2.7 fixes this that will be great. > > In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 > crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. When > I activate a selection markee the graphics driver starts to have problems and > starts to flicker and shortly after that the Nvidia cards reports to me that > the graphics system has crashed and that it has been recovered. Luckily this > recovery system seems to be pretty solid in my graphics card system otherwise > I would have a lot of Vista crashes because of this. I Have Windows Vista > Ultimate 64 Bit running in a Intel core i7 CPU and two Evga 260 GTX graphic > cards running in SLI mode with 12 gigas of DDR3 memory, when I first installed > Gimp in this machine it crashed a lot when I tried to use color correction > tools like Brighness and Contrast adjustments, as soon as I tried to use one > of those Gimp crashed but when it was updated to version 2.6.7 that was > totally fixed (that bug was giving a lot of people problems cause I found out > online) but I still have the selection markee issue that makes the graphic > system unstable quickly, any ideas about what could be causing this? In my XP > machines it works just fine. > >>"I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always > shows >>as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just >>easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications > workflow." >> >> >>But GIMP 2.7 solve that. Maybe you don't use 2.7. A single entry in >>taskbar and when the canvas window is minimized all other utility >>windows are minimized too. >> >> >>2009/9/6 Ramon Miranda <mirandagrap...@gmail.com>: >>> David G said >>>>always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's >>>> layout too. Photoshop allowed this >>>>perfectly and still was a single window program. >>> >>> i would like to have also the ability so save my workspace and change >>> "inside" the gimp from. for example. paint workspace to a "photoretouch" >>> space . instead having different sessionrc and quiting gimp to change the >>> workspace. i hope you will understand me. >>> >>> 2009/9/6 David G. <for...@gimpusers.com> >>>> >>>> >I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So >>>> > this >>>> >way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a >>>> single >>>> >window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a > lot..." >>>> >Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to > see >>>> > a >>>> >lot of panels flying through my desktop" >>>> > >>>> >Lets give it a try to a single window mode >>>> > >>>> >2009/9/5 Martin Nordholts <ense...@gmail.com> >>>> > >>>> >> On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: >>>> >> >> A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release >>>> >> > is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? >>>> >> >>>> >> That is not really relevant to this thread. >>>> >> (But yes of course it will be possible.) >>>> >> >>>> >> / Martin >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> My GIMP Blog: >>>> >> http://www.chromecode.com/ >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Gimp-developer mailing list >>>> >> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >>>> >> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single >>>> window >>>> Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second > monitor >>>> because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single >>>> window >>>> program it allows you to put the toolbox and the parameter windows (or > at >>>> least it did in some older versions) in a separate monitor and leave the >>>> main >>>> program window all for editing pictures if that's what people wanted. > You >>>> coul >>>> also save the workspace layout so Photoshop always opened like this and >>>> Gimp >>>> already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this >>>> perfectly and still was a single window program. >>>> >>>> If that's the concern of people then perhaps Gimp should become a > single >>>> windows program that allows this, that allows you to put the toolbox and >>>> the >>>> right utilities window in a separate monitor while still preserving a >>>> single >>>> box or entry in the taskbar. In my opinion having a single entry in the >>>> taskbar is much better because it's far less messy, the biggest problem >>>> with >>>> the multiple entries interface is that some people seem to think that >>>> everybody opens Gimp only here and there and ocasioanlly and they are > not >>>> thinking of the profesional users that use Gimp seriously (and yes it is > a >>>> powerfull program already and it can be used seriously) and some people >>>> seem >>>> to be forgetting that some people like me for example many, many times >>>> have >>>> several windows and applications running simultaneously and when I mean >>>> several I mean a lot, I find myself many times with 10 or 12 aplications >>>> and/or utilities or more open at the same time (with todays memorys and >>>> CPU >>>> power this is very possible and more common than some people think) and >>>> switching among them and believe me this is not uncommon for > professional >>>> artists that are jumping from 3D to illustration to bitmap editor, video >>>> editing, Flash and/or a web page layout program or even more programs > back >>>> and >>>> fort like a carrousel. In todays workflow you can find many users that >>>> work >>>> just like that instead of the persons that just open a bitmap editor >>>> ocasionally and the issue is that when you have a lot of windows of >>>> different >>>> programs open at the same time a program like Gimp can become a mess in >>>> the >>>> task bar in MS Windows or even in other Operating Systems. Sometimes > when >>>> I'm >>>> working like that the taskbar is so full that it creates a second entry >>>> line >>>> and you have to switch between the first line of items or entries in the >>>> task >>>> bar and the secong and with Gimps it gets sort of confusing or anoying > in >>>> that >>>> situation and I use Blender too which creates a second window for the >>>> command >>>> window and many times a third windows for the rendering window and then >>>> you >>>> get a mess. Programs that have a single entry in the task bar are far >>>> better >>>> for this type of workflow, they are easier to manage. >>>> >>>> Maybe the Gimp team should make a survey to see how many people prefer > the >>>> single entry or single window program over the multiple ones. This issue >>>> of >>>> too many windows have been a source of complain of many, many Gimp users >>>> for >>>> long years and I think that it would be foolhardy to ignore and at the >>>> very >>>> least the Gimp team should consider making a survey to see how many > people >>>> prefer the single window interface but remember what I told you at first >>>> about >>>> being able to put the toolbox pane and the right pane in other monitors >>>> despite the program being single window or single entry program. >>>> >>>> I think that part of the confussion comes precisely from the fact that > the >>>> issue of being a single window program and a program that has a single >>>> entry >>>> in the task bar are really two separate things. >>>> >>>> I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always >>>> shows >>>> as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's > just >>>> easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications >>>> workflow. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gimp-developer mailing list >>>> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >>>> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________ >>> Ramon Miranda >>> http://ramonmirandavisualart.blogspot.com >>> http://code.google.com/p/gps-gimp-paint-studio/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gimp-developer mailing list >>> Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU >>> https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- > David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > -- Nemes Ioan Sorin _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
