Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 08:35:23AM +0100, Andreas Waechter wrote:
 Hello,
 
 in Gimp, you can change the title of image windows (in File 
 - Preferences - Interface - Image Windows - Title  Status).
 
 But I could not find any help about the meaning of the 
 letters which are used in combination with %.
 I could only derive a few from the given examples:
 
 %% is a percent sign
 %z is the zoom percentag
 %t is the type (RGB/indexed/Grayscale)
 %f is the filename
 %m is the memory usage
 %d:%s is the zoom ratio
 %p and %i are some numbers, %i could be the number of the 
 view and %p the number of the image
 
 Is there a complete list to be found somewhere?

Look at the gimprc manpage.

-Yosh
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2 and Wacom Graphire3

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Marco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 firstly, I got really impressed by the way this stuff has been
 recognised... without editing ANYTHING the tablet could work... and
 I could even do some drawings...

 the problem is:

 there is none of the 512 (i think) pressure levels active. i don't
 know how this can be fixed, and I don't even know either if it is
 actually a GIMP problem or not [please don't kill me]...

If you didn't configure anything, then the tablet is working in mouse
mode only. You will have to explicitely enable it from the GIMP
preferences dialog.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andreas Waechter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 in Gimp, you can change the title of image windows (in File -
 Preferences - Interface - Image Windows - Title  Status).

 But I could not find any help about the meaning of the letters which
 are used in combination with %.

 Is there a complete list to be found somewhere?

Yes. It's in the gimprc manpage, also available online:
 
 http://gimp.org/man/gimprc.html


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

2005-01-15 Thread Alan Horkan

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Ryan Coyner wrote:

 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:45:13 -0500
 From: Ryan Coyner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit


 Hey guys. I'm having some problems with layers, and if any of you can
 help me find a solution, I'd appreciate it.

Something similar happened to me while using Indexed mode.
Only the XCF files allow multilayer Indexed colour files, PSD does not.

Generally speaking most file formats do not allow multiple layers at all.
Those that do include XCF and PSD (and possibly MNG if you have it
installed) but XCF is the only format you can be sure will save the
maximum amount of information possible.

- Alan H.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Install gimp2

2005-01-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 06:45:36PM +0100, Ron Eggler wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 06:32:43AM +0100, Ron Eggler wrote:
  i try to install gimp2.
  had to update glib(2.6.0), pkconfig (0.14.0) but still get this error:
  [cp]
  checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking for GLIB 
  - version = 2.4.5... no
   
 i am just guessing, it has been a long time since i have had pkg-config
 problems; perhaps you are searching only in /usr/local and not in /usr/.
 
 the first place i would check that your linking system searches both
 locations.
 
 
 Erm how do I check that?
 
i was going to suggest that you add the path to /etc/ld.so.conf but i
just checked mine and the path to /usr/lib (which is where my glib
lives) is not there.

i read the pkg-config manpage:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0
2.4.8

then i confirmed where i thought it should be:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib*
/usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/glib.pc

then i confirmed where it is not:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /usr/local/lib/glib*
ls: /usr/local/lib/glib*: No such file or directory

i dont know the reason it works for me and not for you.  perhaps at this
point it is good to ask what your distribution is and what version of it
you are running.

have you built other things?  you might need to install the -dev version
of glib also.  actually, it would be very good to know if you have
successfully built other software.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Generally speaking most file formats do not allow multiple layers at
 all.  Those that do include XCF and PSD (and possibly MNG if you
 have it installed) but XCF is the only format you can be sure will
 save the maximum amount of information possible.

MNG supports layers but GIMP can't read MNG files, so that's not a
good advice.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

2005-01-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 10:45:13PM -0500, Ryan Coyner wrote:
 
 When I quit (after saving) the gimp while working a project with
 multiple layers, all the layers seem to merge into one called
 Background when I open it up again. Is there a way to preserve the
 multiple layers so tha when I come back to the project I can edit the
 individual layers? Thanks in advance.
 
can you provide additional information?

an example file is helpful whenever reporting a problem or asking for
help.

they make me explain the methods i used to create the file.

right now in this thread, everyone is just guessing -- people who would
be better working on actual gimp problems are even getting in on the
discussion.

the best way to share your file on this list is to put the file online
and provide a url.  to report the method you used to save the file, you
might mention whether or not you saw the Export Dialog.  the gimp does
not make changes to a file without telling you it is going to do this.
perhaps this warning seems cryptic, however, you probably agreed to the
layers merging.

also, confirmation that you are reading the help mentioned here is just
good procedure no matter who you are asking help from.

right now, i am guessing that gimp did exactly what you told it to and
you are not reading the help being offered via this list.  feel free to
correct this guess with a few facts.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Andreas Waechter
in Gimp, you can change the title of image windows (in File -
Preferences - Interface - Image Windows - Title  Status).
But I could not find any help about the meaning of the letters which
are used in combination with %.
Is there a complete list to be found somewhere?

Yes. It's in the gimprc manpage, also available online:
Thanks. Also to Yosh.
Not a very obvious place to look for it ...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 04:51:34PM +0100, Andreas Waechter wrote:
 in Gimp, you can change the title of image windows (in File -
 Preferences - Interface - Image Windows - Title  Status).
 But I could not find any help about the meaning of the letters which
 are used in combination with %.
 Is there a complete list to be found somewhere?
 
 Yes. It's in the gimprc manpage, also available online:
 
 Thanks. Also to Yosh.
 
 Not a very obvious place to look for it ...

can you share an example of an obvious place?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Andreas Waechter
Not a very obvious place to look for it ...
can you share an example of an obvious place?
THE obvious place for that information would be where that 
information is needed.
On the same page of the Preferences dialog.
As I answered on Alan Horkans question already (which went 
to him only because of that imho stupid list default for 
replies - this is the only list out of 20+ where a reply 
goes to the sender instead of to the list) the title with 
that big icon is superfluous as the current page of the 
preferences dialog is marked in the tree, also the two lists 
for preset choices of titles/statusbar entries could be much 
smaller (and scrollable if necessary).

One or two lines would be enough - just display the %f and 
so on and give the meaning in a tooltip.

Andreas
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread michael crane
Andreas Waechter wrote:
Carol Spears wrote:
 Yes. It's in the gimprc manpage, also available online:


 Thanks. Also to Yosh.

 Not a very obvious place to look for it ...



 can you share an example of an obvious place?
hello
It took me a little time to guess I should type
man gimp-2.0
not man gimp nor man gimp-2.0.1
great software . be lost without it.
thanks
mick
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread David Neary
Hi,

michael crane wrote:
 Andreas Waechter wrote:
  Not a very obvious place to look for it ...
 
  can you share an example of an obvious place?
 
 It took me a little time to guess I should type
 man gimp-2.0
 not man gimp nor man gimp-2.0.1

Clicking Help in the Preferences dialog where you set the title
brings you to the page of the manual which also describes the
format codes.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

michael crane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It took me a little time to guess I should type
 man gimp-2.0
 not man gimp nor man gimp-2.0.1

man gimp should work. During installation a symlink is created. No
idea why that didn't work for you.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Andreas Waechter
Clicking Help in the Preferences dialog where you set the title
brings you to the page of the manual which also describes the
format codes.
Appendix C. Eeek! a help is missing
is no description of the format codes ...
(I just downloaded and installed the help package again from 
Jernej's page to make sure I do not have an old version)

Andreas
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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 08:39:48PM +, michael crane wrote:
 Andreas Waechter wrote:
 
 Carol Spears wrote:
 
  Yes. It's in the gimprc manpage, also available online:
 
 
  Thanks. Also to Yosh.
 
  Not a very obvious place to look for it ...
 
 
 
  can you share an example of an obvious place?
 
 hello
 It took me a little time to guess I should type
 man gimp-2.0
 not man gimp nor man gimp-2.0.1
 
i admit, i did not understand this until i read it here.

thank you

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview? (SOLVED)

2005-01-15 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 15 January 2005 06:02 am, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 Eric Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since
  asking the original question.  It seems that SuSE has done
  something to their build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2
  that disables the preview pane in the file browser.  In looking at
  their src rpm, I find, what looks like a file added to disable
  that.

 Are you sure it is disabled in the build? Perhaps you just disabled
 thumbnails in the Preferences dialog? You should also note that GIMP
 2.0 doesn't create the thumbnails automatically. You need to click
 the preview area to make it generate the thumbnail for the selected
 file(s).


 Sven
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Ok, everyone, thanks for the thoughts and help, I have 2.2.2 compiled 
and working nicely on SuSE 9.2 now!  Seems my compile problem was a bad 
libgsf file/s, so took care of that and Gimp went nicely.  Nice new 
SuSE rpms built now and I'll happily provide them to anyone needing 
them, if that's ok with the developers?

From info I got in my quest to get this worked out, I was told there was 
a bug, of this nature, in the 2.0.4 Gimp files and was reported as 
such.  No matter though, 2.2.2 is always better to have!  Thanks to 
everyone and especially the Gimp contributors/developers for such great 
work!

Patrick

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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 08:47:24PM +0100, Andreas Waechter wrote:
 Not a very obvious place to look for it ...
 can you share an example of an obvious place?
 
 THE obvious place for that information would be where that 
 information is needed.
 On the same page of the Preferences dialog.
 As I answered on Alan Horkans question already (which went 
 to him only because of that imho stupid list default for 
 replies - this is the only list out of 20+ where a reply 
 goes to the sender instead of to the list) the title with 
 that big icon is superfluous as the current page of the 
 preferences dialog is marked in the tree, also the two lists 
 for preset choices of titles/statusbar entries could be much 
 smaller (and scrollable if necessary).
 
sorry about all of the frustration here.  the thing that must be
remembered is that you are using software which would not exist if not
for its linux origins and its linux ways, and for what i understand
about how that all works, it should be worth the cost of the application
if all you are asked is to respect its origins and traditions.

there is another side of this argument (i am not taking either side
right now) where people are concerned about the need to have all
configurations have a gui.  they already destroyed some of the nicest
parts of the file selection and file saving in the name of simplicity, i
prefer that they dont clutter the rest of the gui to make this sort of
personalization easier for the few who need it.  i have been following
this list for many years and this is the first time someone needed to
change the title on the image window, to the best of my memory.

i think there is a point where people with extreme and unusual
personalization needs might need to do a little not pretty digging.  the
fact that your question was answered here, both quickly and accurately
means it was not so difficult to find out and using the default titles
did not hamper your image making needs so much. (or did it?)


 One or two lines would be enough - just display the %f and 
 so on and give the meaning in a tooltip.
 
perhaps you could write a tutorial about how to make the changes you
need with the way the gimp currently does this?  sometimes my tutorials 
are written to show something i think is stupid and should be done better.  
none of my recent tutorials do this, but it is still an excellent way to
contribute, sound off and express your opinion all at the same time. and
occasionally, as i have written the tutorials, i could see the reason
things were done this way.

gimp tries to work with freedesktop.org so that it can continue to work
on all platforms, so please cite things there so that we can continue
the multi-platform work.

that way to handle the window titles is how the linux people have been
doing their windows since i started to use it.  if it is compliant with
the desktop standards, then user interface is the next priority (the way
i see it).  an online how-to is a good step in the right direction for
you to help others who might also want to change their window titles.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Window-Title - Meaning of %f

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Andreas Waechter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 THE obvious place for that information would be where that information
 is needed. On the same page of the Preferences dialog.

Needless to say that this has been suggested before. We agreed that
the user shouldn't have to deal with format strings at all. What we
need is a widget that allows to edit the title and statusbar strings
using a simple point-and-click interface. That would be a nice little
project for someone who wants to start hacking on GIMP.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

2005-01-15 Thread Alan Horkan

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 15:32:43 +0100
 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

 Hi,

 Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Generally speaking most file formats do not allow multiple layers at
  all.  Those that do include XCF and PSD (and possibly MNG if you
  have it installed) but XCF is the only format you can be sure will
  save the maximum amount of information possible.

 MNG supports layers but GIMP can't read MNG files, so that's not a
 good advice.

I knew it wasn't included by default (which is why I said if you have it)
but I thought there was a plug-in available but if you say there isn't ...

- Alan

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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers merging on exit

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 MNG supports layers but GIMP can't read MNG files, so that's not a
 good advice.

 I knew it wasn't included by default (which is why I said if you have it)
 but I thought there was a plug-in available but if you say there isn't ...

The plug-in is included by default but it can only save MNG and
doesn't have any code to load the files again. If you are creating MNG
animations with GIMP, you always need to keep a copy in XCF format.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] superimpose no-smoking sign

2005-01-15 Thread Shawn
Hello,

I've only used gimp a little bit but need to teach an autistic child to
not run into the street and do other things.

To do that, I need to take pictures and then super-impose a basic no
sign (like you see for no-smoking) over it.  I need to do this for a lot
of pictures.

Any suggestions for how to do that.  I am going through the gimp help
browser now but have basically no idea.  I _really_ appreciate it.
-- 
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Re: [Gimp-user] superimpose no-smoking sign

2005-01-15 Thread Jacob S
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 11:50:57 +0900
Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I've only used gimp a little bit but need to teach an autistic child
 to not run into the street and do other things.
 
 To do that, I need to take pictures and then super-impose a basic no
 sign (like you see for no-smoking) over it.  I need to do this for a
 lot of pictures.
 
 Any suggestions for how to do that.  I am going through the gimp help
 browser now but have basically no idea.  I _really_ appreciate it.

The easiest way I can think of is to create your red circle with the
slash through it in the right size and then save it as a brush. Then you
can simply stamp it on each image where you need it. 

Brushes are saved in .gbr format in the brushes subdirectory of your
~/.gimp directory. (~/.gimp might be named ~/.gimp-2.0 instead, or
similar, but you get the idea.)

HTH,
Jacob
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[Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore

2005-01-15 Thread Jozsef Mak
Hi,
Finally, i updated my Gimp to version 2.2.2 on my Linux box as well.
Previously, i had 2.06 installed with help files working perfectly. Now, 
with version 2.2.2 installed my help files are not functioning any longer. 
When i click the help menu i get the following error;

There is a problem with the GIMP help files.
Parse error in '/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-help.xml':
Error on line 1 char 1: Document was empty or contained only whitespace
Please check your installation.
How can i fix this problem?
Thanks
jozsefmak
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[Gimp-user] hmmmm

2005-01-15 Thread Mark D. Montgomery II
I just downloaded and compiled gsumi and it has the same issue with
reading the pen when not on the tablet as gimp does.
Although it is not as bad.
As soon as the pen is lifted out of range, it returns to normal until it
is used to draw again.

So now I'm thinking the problem isn't necessarily directly related to
gimp, but maybe something both programs use for pressure sensitivity
(like the wacom driver?).

Mark II



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