Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
< snip > > > Hello Norman, > http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/ has a lot of thing to add to your list. > But in the end it's up to you to try them out and find for each image the > method that works best. I have looked but this does not answer my specific question, unfortunately. I cannot believe my question was so obscure that no one has been able to answer it yet. Perhaps it is too simple and I am missing the point somewhere. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
On Saturday 12 April 2008, norman wrote: > I have looked but this does not answer my specific question, > unfortunately. I cannot believe my question was so obscure that no one > has been able to answer it yet. Perhaps it is too simple and I am > missing the point somewhere. > > Norman Yes, maybe you should rephrase it, I'd thought that you wanted to know methods to have more control than with one of the straightforward methods: - Image->Mode->Grayscale (the whole image will be grayscale, you'd have to change back to RGB mode to edit with colours again) - Colors->Desaturate, which has three predefined modes since GIMP 2.4 If that's not what you want, maybe you should ask again in a different way ;-) Daniel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
On Saturday 12 April 2008, norman wrote: > > Yes, maybe you should rephrase it, I'd thought that you wanted to know > > methods to have more control than with one of the straightforward > > methods: - Image->Mode->Grayscale (the whole image will be grayscale, > > you'd have to change back to RGB mode to edit with colours again) > > - Colors->Desaturate, which has three predefined modes since GIMP 2.4 > > > > If that's not what you want, maybe you should ask again in a different > > way ;-) > > Right, I could explain but, as it is said, a picture is worth a thousand > words. I was looking at the following and would like to be able to do > what is described, using GIMP:- > > http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/tutorial_pages/elements_2/PSE2_BW.html > > There are 2 things I am puzzled about they are:- how do I create an H/S > Adjustment Layer and why is the background copy in b&w whereas the layer > labelled background is in colour as is Background copy 2. > > Norman There are no such things as adjustment layers in GIMP, but in one of the future versions, much more powerful tools will be available to allow non-destructive editing. You can do pretty much of what's done there though in different ways as mentioned on the page that Tim gave. As to why the BG copy 2 layer in your page is b&w, I best quote that page itself: "the top layer (Background copy) shows where we did a simple 'remove colour' and have de-selected the 'eye' so as to hide this layer." The coloured seem to be effectively desaturated with one of the adjustment layers. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
< snip > > There are no such things as adjustment layers in GIMP, but in one of the > future versions, much more powerful tools will be available to allow > non-destructive editing. You can do pretty much of what's done there though > in different ways as mentioned on the page that Tim gave. As to why the BG > copy 2 layer in your page is b&w, I best quote that page itself: > > "the top layer (Background copy) shows where we did a simple 'remove colour' > and have de-selected the 'eye' so as to hide this layer." > > The coloured seem to be effectively desaturated with one of the adjustment > layers. Thank you very much indeed. Now I can forget all about the approach I thought I would look at and concentrate on those ways I know best - the methods suggested and demonstrated by Ralph Steinort. Norman ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] How I save the settings of a tool?
I am learning Pixel Art. And if you do not know what is, you have the idea that iis about pixels. Well, I draw images at level of pixel. Then I have to draw with pixels, and erase with hard edge. Everytime Gimp starts, I have to set the settings again. Well, can I save the settings to stop this time waste? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 12:48 +0100, norman wrote: > < snip > > > > There are no such things as adjustment layers in GIMP, but in one of the > > future versions, much more powerful tools will be available to allow > > non-destructive editing. You can do pretty much of what's done there > > though > > in different ways as mentioned on the page that Tim gave. As to why the BG > > copy 2 layer in your page is b&w, I best quote that page itself: > > > > "the top layer (Background copy) shows where we did a simple 'remove > > colour' > > and have de-selected the 'eye' so as to hide this layer." > > > > The coloured seem to be effectively desaturated with one of the adjustment > > layers. > > Thank you very much indeed. Now I can forget all about the approach I > thought I would look at and concentrate on those ways I know best - the > methods suggested and demonstrated by Ralph Steinort. "Rolf" please! ;-) I think this is basically the same thing that you can do with the channel mixer. In the top adjustment layer they do a "crude" desaturation by simply removing it. You can do that in Gimp by adding a layer filled with black and setting the mode to "saturation". I don't get what the lower layer does. I'll ask a friend an d report back. Perhaps there is something interesting in it. Rolf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How I save the settings of a tool?
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Lap1994 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am learning Pixel Art. And if you do not know what is, you have the idea > that iis about pixels. Well, I draw images at level of pixel. Then I have > to draw with pixels, and erase with hard edge. > > Everytime Gimp starts, I have to set the settings again. Well, can I save > the settings to stop this time waste? Yes. Preferences -> Tool options provides the option to 'save tool options on exit'. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] black & white
On Sat, 2008-04-12 at 16:22 +0200, Rolf Steinort wrote:> < snip > > I don't get what the lower layer does. I'll ask a friend an d report > back. Perhaps there is something interesting in it. > Nothing interesting. I just talked to John Arnold from http://photowalkthrough.com/ (worth to look into even for Gimp users). He told me that this is an old method and has less control than the channel mixer. The lower layer just rotates the colours. That leads to a different luminosity and so to different monochrome output. Rolf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How I save the settings of a tool?
Am Samstag 12 April 2008 schrieb Lap1994: > I am learning Pixel Art. And if you do not know what is, you have the > idea that iis about pixels. Well, I draw images at level of pixel. > Then I have to draw with pixels, and erase with hard edge. Hi Lap (if this is your name), quite interesting: This is what I did back in the 90s on a Atari ST. For the hires monochrome screen (600x400 pixels) there was no greyscales. And back then I was very into devising my own system fonts, my own desktop icons etc. Hence everything was done in a bitmap editor. But why would one act thus nowadays? Is it just a "hobby" like ascii art? Is it a "serious" class at some college? Is the only "propper" way of editing to sett single pixels by means of a mouse cursor? Maybe mtpaint is closer to your requirements? Regards Ralf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How I save the settings of a tool?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 1:13 AM, RalfGesellensetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Samstag 12 April 2008 schrieb Lap1994: > > > I am learning Pixel Art. And if you do not know what is, you have the > > idea that iis about pixels. Well, I draw images at level of pixel. > > Then I have to draw with pixels, and erase with hard edge. > > Hi Lap (if this is your name), > > quite interesting: This is what I did back in the 90s on a Atari ST. > For the hires monochrome screen (600x400 pixels) there was no > greyscales. And back then I was very into devising my own system fonts, > my own desktop icons etc. Hence everything was done in a bitmap editor. > > But why would one act thus nowadays? Is it just a "hobby" like ascii > art? For some people it is > Is it a "serious" class at some college? No. However, pixel art is used for commercial 2d games, like those you can find on the Gameboy Advance or on mobile phones. For example, so much pixel art was used in the new Contra game that there are at least 12 different pixel artists who made graphics for it. You can get an idea of what pixel art is wanted for from here: http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?PHPSESSID=873c18254f730e0f1596c2ec94208841&board=6.0 It is the 'pixelation' forum's 'employment' subforum. > Is the only "propper" way of editing to sett single pixels by means of a > mouse cursor? If the image you are editing is small: Definitely! It depends on the significance of the individual pixel in the work. typically pixel art might be made in any resolution up to 512x384 (where the significance of an individual pixel is 1 in (512 * 384 == 196608 pixels)) Some large pixel art: http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17123.htm# http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/5646.htm# http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/5400.htm# http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/4329.htm# http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/19741.htm# > > Maybe mtpaint is closer to your requirements? Personally I tried mtpaint, and while it's pretty effective, it lacks polish and some key features (eg. moving to next/prev color) for my purposes; which is why I use GIMP still. > > Regards > Ralf > > > > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Preview window
Gimp have a preview window that appears when you zoom the image? I know MSPaint have. With this you see what your small brush do in the real size image when you are in a zoom of 2x or 4x ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
